Hi All,

I've been using this free program for a while to build lists for a range of wargames, as it works very well. I was surprised recently when most of one of my groups of friends hadn't even heard of it, so I have put up a review & screenshots on my website to spread the word:

http://gravengames.co.uk/battlescribe-roster-editor-review/

Is anyone else already using this?

I've never seen it used, but as long as the final list result looks nothing like the horrid abomination that armybuilder uses, then it should be fine.

Personally though, I'm a fine of good old calculator and a nice word document laid out nicely. My lists are clean, clear, and easily understood. Most of these programs are unnecessarily confusing and hard to read when the person building the list could just as easily do some basic math and write out an easily understood list.

Blacksails wrote:I've never seen it used, but as long as the final list result looks nothing like the horrid abomination that armybuilder uses, then it should be fine.

Personally though, I'm a fine of good old calculator and a nice word document laid out nicely. My lists are clean, clear, and easily understood. Most of these programs are unnecessarily confusing and hard to read when the person building the list could just as easily do some basic math and write out an easily understood list.

That's actually what I like about this sofware, its clear and simple, & generates clear easy to read lists, while remaining relatively powerful.

I use it all the time, as it's Java based and thus works on my Mac.

Plus, of course, it's free and it automatically checks and downloads the current army lists from remote servers.

And it's quite easy to write files for - I've made a couple for mini-dexes and old Citadel Journal lists that are now part of the list download....

Use it all the time and personally write and maintain the Mantic lists.

Excellent software, highly recommended!

I'm not sure why people are still paying for Army Builder subscriptions at this point, especially after that whole debacle where they sent out legal threats to a variety of wargaming forums.

Where would I find 40k list repositories for it?

^ http://catalogue.randomhit.org/

Alternatively, you can find pretty much anything you want just by typing "[name of whatever] battlescribe files" into google.

For example, someone had the Empire list for fantasy made within 2 days of the book being released.

Hmmm I tried searching but apparently I am not smarter than google cause I can't seem to find the 40k files :( I guess GW went after them for posting the free rules or something???

Benamint wrote:Hmmm I tried searching but apparently I am not smarter than google cause I can't seem to find the 40k files :( I guess GW went after them for posting the free rules or something???

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=warhammer+40k+battlescribe+data+files

I've only ever tried free list-builders, so I can't compare it to Army Builder, but BattleScribe wins, hands down, out of the freebies I've played around with. The interface is reasonably clean and straightforward, as are the lists it produces.

The only complaints I've ever heard about it, barring the occasional bug in downloading from repositories, are from people who couldn't find the army list/game system files, to begin with. It only took me a few minutes with Google to find the repository, which gave me everything I could need, except the new edition VC list for WFB, which appears to be rather hush-hush (Google only turns up requests for links on other forums - so, if anybody has a link they want to PM me, I'd be grateful ).

I just downloaded Battlescribe two days ago. Even for someone as computer-knowledge-average as myself it was easy to setup and find the necessary files.

Yesterday I was able to quickly and easily make a 3000 point army for a game of Warpath and with a few notes added for my own convenience, the printed roster was great for in-game reference.

Highly recommended!

I have always been a big fan of army builder. Is there an App for Battlescribe. I recently got an Ipad 3 for my birthday and no nothing of mac products. All I have ever used is an Ipod. I can't put Army Builder on my Ipad (dont know or if it is even possible) but this Battlescribe looks like a good alternate. Any help for the computer illiterate would be greatly appreciated.

Bikeninja wrote:I have always been a big fan of army builder. Is there an App for Battlescribe. I recently got an Ipad 3 for my birthday and no nothing of mac products. All I have ever used is an Ipod. I can't put Army Builder on my Ipad (dont know or if it is even possible) but this Battlescribe looks like a good alternate. Any help for the computer illiterate would be greatly appreciated.

There isn't a good solution to using an ipad for list building - aside from a calculator app and notepad.

I've used Army Builder since 2000. Back then it was kinda the only thing around. 2 years ago I got the newest edition of it, but once my 1 year of updates was done, I just bookmarked the updates page and checked it weekly on my own. I don't know why anyone would pay $40 just to save them a few clicks a week.

I'll have to check out BattleScribe, especially since AB doesn't work on Mac OS.

Consider me a convert.

I gave up on Army Builder when they wanted me to pay every year for the priveledge of using their software, even though the content I wanted wasn't actually gerated by them.

Tjis has finally become available for the Kindle Fire, bit now I am perplexed as to how to find the $%&&&%$%**ing data files. Do I have to become a member of these sites, or is it simply a link?

Help!

adamsouza wrote:Consider me a convert.

I gave up on Army Builder when they wanted me to pay every year for the priveledge of using their software, even though the content I wanted wasn't actually gerated by them.

People are seriously misinformed about what the subscription is. You don't pay to use the software. Once you buy it, it's yours forever. What you pay for after the first year is automatic updates, which are optional. I don't pay a subscription and I update manually just fine. It's all of 3 clicks a month.

Just about anything is better than Army Builder, so I'll check it out. Thanks for the info!

I will say, whenever I check lists for a tournament, I prefer battlescribe's list output to AB's, handsdown. Battlescribe outputs what you want, no more, unlike army-builder's mini codex packet of doom. That, and running it on a Kindle Fire makes it supremely easy to list-build for pick-up games in no time flat.

I use it on my PC and on my phone (it's available on the android market for free) And find it's pure awesome-sauce!

I especially love that it's on the phone, I can build lists during the commute to work and use them at games night without having to carry pens, paper, calculators, etc with me at all times.

Can't fault the program enough.

Only gripe I have is that the catalogues are community maintained, so sometimes you get errors that you have to work around (for example, the ork codex has an error where the painboy only costs 30pts, instead of 55 (nob+painboy upgrade)).

Amazing program. Makes it really easy to build lists accurately.
I think the best use is to manage lists easily, dropping upgrades and adding some while still maintaining accuracy and easy to see points total. I love making a list and then spending a few hours finagling it just right.

The only issues I have seen are that you sometimes encounter incorrect points values for upgrades. So I HIGHLY recommend checking the points by hand after you make a list the first time you use a codex in battlescribe, so you can catch the errors. It is really easy to fix them though, with the built in file editor, which is very easy to use as long as you can work a dropbox.

The mobile version doesn't have the same file editor though, so I haven't figured out how to correct the mistakes on my phone. But then again, I don't Know much about data files and the like.

Aerethan wrote:

adamsouza wrote:Consider me a convert.

I gave up on Army Builder when they wanted me to pay every year for the priveledge of using their software, even though the content I wanted wasn't actually gerated by them.

People are seriously misinformed about what the subscription is. You don't pay to use the software. Once you buy it, it's yours forever. What you pay for after the first year is automatic updates, which are optional. I don't pay a subscription and I update manually just fine. It's all of 3 clicks a month.

Actually you don't own it. I had 3.0 & 3.1 and once 3.2 came out, it broke compatibility with previous versions (i.e. 3.1 could not read 3.2 data files). Ok, so I go to update and LW says I need to pay the 4-5 years IN ARREARS that I did not pay support for to be able to upgrade. This 4-5 years there was no support or updates to the AB software since they were pimping Hero and CardLab. Now they got this deal where you pay $30 and it covers you back. No thanks since I'd still be paying for support and updates that aren't provided.

I've used Battlescribe for a couple years now and it's great. Works on my PC and my Android phone.

Blacksails wrote:I've never seen it used, but as long as the final list result looks nothing like the horrid abomination that armybuilder uses, then it should be fine.

Personally though, I'm a fine of good old calculator and a nice word document laid out nicely. My lists are clean, clear, and easily understood. Most of these programs are unnecessarily confusing and hard to read when the person building the list could just as easily do some basic math and write out an easily understood list.

This^ Word+ calculator are fine and it also doesn't have the army limitations of the dedicated programes.

Can anyone who does use this for Android forward me a URL to upload the libraries?

I use it on my Kindle Fire, the URL for the 40k files is: http://www.randomhit.org/battlescribe_data/index40k.xml

Thank you! It finally works!

Considering I have heard about some errors in the files, should we start a thread concerning these errors and how to correct them?

I've just been having a play trying to recreate my normal Ork army, and have already found a couple of problems :(

I am using it all the time - BS rocks. It also has data for Flames of War and several other games.

Battlescribe is awesome. The fact that they have Android apps and run on all major desktop platforms are super pluses.

Unfrotunately due to GW IP, getting a cohesive and constantly updated repo is kindda hard. I have many changes (Stormtalon, ...) that I made to my own repo that never see the day into the main one by randomhit. But it is a good start.

Slinky wrote:I've just been having a play trying to recreate my normal Ork army, and have already found a couple of problems :(

Send me a PM of your issues and I will see about editing the file and placing it in a downloadable location.. I have been adding the profiles to the different units for orks on my end.. So they will print on the roster.

My only beef is no apple support!

But only because I just got an iphone 4s and want this great app on it!

I have already found two errors in Dark Angels and Tyranids. I am not sure how to correct them, so I'd like to hear from someone who does.

I am pretty sure I fixed the error with the point costs on DA with my own repo. The problem with the main repo is that it doesn't get updated fast enough.

Your best bet is to find people who are actively fixing theirs and join a common repo. Perhaps all Dakkalite should get together for a repo.

Where is yours? Mine is off of randomhit.

I do not care for army building programs, I find pen and paper (or microsoft notepad) to programs, find it much faster.

@SoloFalcon1138: Try https://dl.dropbox.com/u/565769/40KCatalogues/index.xml
@Buttons: I am happy for you as well. To each his own. Cheers.

The Black Templar repo is wrong too. Terminator squads are 40 points on top of the 40 per model they cost. Along with some other problems it has. I am probably going to go through and remake the whole repo myself cause I am bored and want to put off homework.

Anyone know if there is a way to print the rules like on army builder or no? It woudl be awesome if things like say tank hunters was defined with what it does on a rules sheet. But this may not be possible, and could probably get people in trouble.

It is possible. Mine prints with all the rules. Look at CataloguesEditor executable.

I've been having lots of fun building some catalogues for Dropzone Commander ahead of its launch, but this is really one of those programs where you get out what you put in. Some of the files (like 40K) have had a lot of work put into them, with rules text, characteristics and validation etc, while others are just lists of units you can pick with some points costs.

Documentation on the catalogue editor is really shabby though, and the forums are too small to be of any significant use, so it boils down to either copying existing files or trial and error

still, it's a good program, and definitely worth the time to get to grips with

Yeah it took playing with the program to learn how to set the files up.. Then mostly it was shot in the dark.. The forums really suck, if your problem is not posted..

Call me hopeful but if this program one day becomes open source, there would be quite a few people working on improving it.

That would be awesome. Either way I am happy just with the fact that it is free!

same here,, I haven't used army builder since I found this one.. I got tired of the year updates to make you pay again..

I just heard of this two weeks ago. Thanks for all the links fellas. Good stuff!

i love battlescribe because it works on my smartphone

might also start writing lists for it

leohart wrote:It is possible. Mine prints with all the rules. Look at CataloguesEditor executable.

If you don't mind, maybe provide an assist? I loaded the catalogs, but how do you get the rules entries to appear on the rosters?

In short, how do I get the "selection rule summary" working?

Open program,
Load Catalog,
Expand unit,
Click on rule you want to have the entry for,
Enter the description

rigeld2 wrote:Open program,
Load Catalog,
Expand unit,
Click on rule you want to have the entry for,
Enter the description

Got it. If the hidden box isn't checked it should print right, but may not be visible on print preview... yes? This is the part thats not quite working, my entries aren't printing in the army lists. Thanks for your help.

Just found this out after reading this thread.

Great program and easy to use, will never use anything else again

Byte wrote:

rigeld2 wrote:Open program,
Load Catalog,
Expand unit,
Click on rule you want to have the entry for,
Enter the description

Got it. If the hidden box isn't checked it should print right, but may not be visible on print preview... yes? This is the part thats not quite working, my entries aren't printing in the army lists. Thanks for your help.

You may have to add a rule page to it all. I wish I had one with it already done so I could basically copy it right.

@Byte: What catalogues are you looking at? I know that my Space Marine one (repo above) has many rules info included.
@sparkywtf: What catalogues are you looking at?

I have only ever looked at the Tomb Kings and the Black Templar one, as those are the armies I play. (well and guard but for some reason I never make a list ahead of time)

Hmm, I don't maintain those in my personal repo so you definitely need to find someone that does to get the full rules included that is.

I wonder if there is a way to get better BFG files. They are all updated (which is absolutely amazing and awesome) - but the stats of the vehicles are not up. Its kind of like having a Space Marine in your list but not telling you the BS, WS, S, T, W, so on and so forth :/

I mean I can write it in but I really wanna see how I can fix this - too bad I suck with computers :/

All it takes is someone with the books to go enter the stuff, really not that hard.

Once I figured out you could add rules to the catalog, its rather simple in doing so.

Hardest part is getting it shared with others. not sure how often the site that hosts these files updates their files with older updated books (like if the book gets some fixes on the file)

I never got one for the Tomb Kings since their update.

Do like the software though; I use it for my Tyranids regularly.

leohart wrote:@Byte: What catalogues are you looking at? I know that my Space Marine one (repo above) has many rules info included.
@sparkywtf: What catalogues are you looking at?

GK and IG. Found lots of errors in the GK one. Just seems the rules aren't imputed. You know, Eternal Warrior, Fearless, stuff like that. The explanation and such. I'm using the randonhit.org repos.

I'll check some of the other catalogs. Great tool so far. Easy to learn. I'm already editing my catalogs! I don't even have facespace err.. iface err.. facebay... nevermind...

@Byte: lol. My repo has some updated GK stuff in there (notably the ability to take 2 Psycannon for every 5 paladins). I don't input rules info because I remember them all plus repeating them is kindda meh. I hope Jon (the creator BattleScribe) eventually implement linked items.

True about the rules, it would be handy but not necessary.

The error messages kinda flake out when you give henchman 3 meltas and than add some storm bolters. Psycannon point value was off for Purifiers I think. Other small things.

Overall I dig it.

Is it? I am pretty sure Psycannon point value is on the dot for Purifiers. It just includes the base cost into it. That way it takes one click instead of 2 to equip your squad.

Opps, it was the strike squads. Had it for 30pts iirc.

Which is still correct because it is the cost of the upgrade + the basecost. It may appears weird at first but once you get used to it, you will see that it saves a lot of clicking.

Got it, thanks!

I am just figuring out how to add the profile to BFG ships for my space Marines

If anyone knows how, please drop me a line!

You can create/edit data files using the desktop version - editors for catalogue and game system files are included.

I tried to make them intuitive and easy to use - adding rules/profiles and modifying points values etc shouldn't be difficult

Here's the help page which has some more detail, plus info on sharing your files via a repository: http://www.battlescribe.net/help-overview.html

Jonskichov wrote:You can create/edit data files using the desktop version - editors for catalogue and game system files are included.

I tried to make them intuitive and easy to use - adding rules/profiles and modifying points values etc shouldn't be difficult

Here's the help page which has some more detail, plus info on sharing your files via a repository: http://www.battlescribe.net/help-overview.html

Ok - got the info - but not kidding when I say my computer skills are.... well an Ork can handle a computer better than I



Off to add profiles to the ships in BFG!

Anyone know where to get Tyrants legion codex for battlescribe?

I'm going to have to check this out.

I have been using this for a while now. I love BattleScribe! I was using an outdated version for a loooong time, and then finally downloaded the latest version and was amazed at the new features! I love just putting in the repository url and the program is is even easier to use and understand now.

The print outs are also great. I can't stand trying to decipher someone's AB printout or their own Excel spreadsheet.

Seriously, everyone should be using this lol!

SickSix wrote:I was using an pirated version for a loooong time

pirated?
It's free. What was pirated?

rigeld2 wrote:

SickSix wrote:I was using an pirated version for a loooong time

pirated?
It's free. What was pirated?

Holy sh_t! That is supposed to say 'outdated'! My damn cell phone and auto-correct......

I've been using battlescribe and it has less errors than Army builder (and is free too!)

I can vouch for this excellent piece of software.

It does take a bit of getting used to for the point allocation.
e.g for a Tyranid broodlord battle scribe has 60pts whereas the Tyranid codex is +46 (14 base for the genestealer).

It adds up correctly but can still trip you up

Just made my first IG list with this program. A simple tally of everything I have painted. It was so fast that I'll probably do the same for my Blood Angels as well. Easy Peasey!

After trying out for Warpath I recommended it to a friend and he was really pleased with it also.

I just wanna add in an error for the GK

points cost for conversion beamer is wrong ;P its 3x what it is now (15pts)

It my Dark Eldar catalog editor I have 3 errors that say this.

"condition must have child that exist"

It won't allow me to save catalog as a result. Anybody else have this? Got it from randomhit.

@Byte if you click the error message in the list at the bottom of Catalogue Editor it should take you to the offending item. You'll need to select an entry in the drop down on the condition.

Let me try that.

Didn't take me the item(clicking). But I noticed 3 little wrench symbols in the list. Are these the errors?

How come when I try to print the army list it only prints the first few entries (1 page). I can't get it to print the entire list.

Will the full app be available for the Kindle Fire?

SoloFalcon1138 wrote:Will the full app be available for the Kindle Fire?

There is a full app available for all android systems

Is there any knowledge of a 3rd ed. chaos marine codex for battlescribe anywhere?

dont think so, might have to get someone to make it

*cough* I might be able to help *cough cough*

I'm curious, if I delete the "data repositories" from Battlescribe, will that stop it from updating the catalogues via the online repository? Can I then make my own updates and corrections without worrying about the repository overriding my work?

EDIT: Btw, I'm a new user and I'm finding Battlescribe to be quite the nice little program. I'm normally just a Calculator+Notepad person, but Battlescribe works really well on my android phone, which I'm liking immensely.

yes, and I just download them directly and update them all myself XD

@Byte Ah it _should_ take you to the item in error. I'll have to fix that. The wrench icon is a modifier. Conditions come under modifiers. Your error means that some conditions have an entry selected in their drop down that for some reason doesn't exist in the catalogue. Unfortunately you're going to have to look through the catalogue to find the broken ones, sorry :(

@Xcaliber If you remove the repo URL, you will indeed stop it from updating On the desktop version, under Manage Data, you can also uncheck the box to prevent auto updates on startup.

Just a quick update to everyone, my repo now has double-FOC chart automatically at 2000 points. I need to work a little on this so it can be optional.

But the good news is Fortification slot has been added with all the different options. This works for all the armies that I own the books for (SM,SW,Necron, Tyranids, BA, GK). Check it out.

edited for clarity:

Leohart: Are your repos automatic or can you send the SM one to me? (as that one works best for BT)

I am going to start working tonight on IG and BT

iPad app for this is there?

No iOS app.

My repo is at https://dl.dropbox.com/u/565769/40KCatalogues/index.xml If you add it into your Battlescribe repo, it should automatically update your game system and some catalogues.

If you make changes to the IG + BT, you can either put it into your own repo (in your own Dropbox hosting) or you can PM me, and I can pull and merge it into mine.

Battlescribe has instructions on how to create your own repository with the help of Drop Box. http://www.battlescribe.net/help-dataindexer.html

@Kal-El: I follow Battlescribe on Google+ and it appears that an iOS version is done, just waiting for approval from Apple. Try searching it on the App store every once in a while.

thanks leohart.

Starting the BT one right now. Already done with the first item. When it is done I will throw it up on my dropbox and PM you a link

Doing the IG one probably tomorrow while I hang out at the FLGS


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So I am having a couple minor problems I can't seem to figure out

For BT you are required to have an emperor's Champ at 750 points, but may take him before there. How do I set the modifier to reflect that.

Also for commanders and chaplains, there is 2 different models in each option, can I set it they you add one or the other (but not both), but allow you everything else like options and wargear only to be added once in the catelogue, with modifers changing what needs to be changed?

ok cool thank you!

@sparkywtf: You can add a condition/modifier that increase and max_selection to 1 if there is at least 750 points in the roster.

Typically, in order to make two entries exclusive to each other, create an entry group that has max_selection 1, put these entries in there with max_selection 1.

See http://www.battlescribe.net/help-catalogueeditor.html

The main issue I have with it is that I can't figure out how to have 1 profile for a weapon, for example if I have a missile pod entry for a commander, I have to have a separate missile pod for his bodyguard and I end up with 2 profiles on my print-out.

@Davylove21: Are you using the latest edition? In the current edition, any Profile for Wargear and Weapon, ... that has the same name will only appear once in the table at the bottom.

If there's an extra space in the name, or a typoed name it'll show up twice.

leohart wrote:@sparkywtf: You can add a condition/modifier that increase and max_selection to 1 if there is at least 750 points in the roster.

Typically, in order to make two entries exclusive to each other, create an entry group that has max_selection 1, put these entries in there with max_selection 1.

See http://www.battlescribe.net/help-catalogueeditor.html

Okay I got the exclusive entries to work, I just can't seem to figure out modifiers yet. I think I will mess with them after the rest is done (and gotta get good with them when it comes to wargear! lots of terminator only options)

Also I have to give you props if you actually made your repos yourself, because I have spent 2 hours today just on the commander HQ for BT, and I still have wargear options to finish and modifiers (for later).

Nah, I based mine on the one distributed by randomhit. And my repo doesn't have wargear information and such. There is a gentleman on randomhit who has a repository with wargear and special rules fully kitted out. I only include options in my repository.

Plus, BT is a very old codex and thus its options are rather complicated.

Just tried this stuff out and it is brilliant!

sparkywtf wrote:No iOS app.

...I believe that is something they are working on and will be available very, very soon.

Thanks, Graven Games

Yup, it's awaiting apple approval as we speak...

Hopefully the full sized iPad app won't be far behind, the initial release will be for phone/touch..

Really enjoying BattleScribe. Thanks for the link!

I've been working on the Space Marines, Imperial Guard, Eldar, and Sisters of Battle (the armies we have around the house).
I'm likewise working on an Eldar Corsair data file, and have it done, and think I've ironed out the bugs.

The Space Marines are mostly done (and greatly improved over the RandomHit file, i.e. actually having weapons stats and special rules), and I have added as many FAQ'd changes and 6th updates as I can. I've likewise included the Stormtalon Gunship.

Likewise, I've added doubling of FoC choices at 2000 points, triggered by selecting additional troops and HQ choices.
The scheme mostly seems to work, but there may be edge cases.

The other three, so far, mostly just have the Fortifications added.

I think my index may not quite work right (it is Dropbox hosted), so I've sent the link to Jon to debug.

I'll provide the link, just in case:

Updated Link:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/23999760/6e/index.xml

@Byte I should probably say that the latest version released a couple of days ago (1.12.05b) is fixed so when you click an error, it rakes you to the broken element. There's also a pile of other little fixes.

I've been making a Tau catalogue for myself because the one I acquired from randomhit was too messy.

If anyone would like it, I can upload it to a file host and share it with you. It requires a knowledge of the codex mainly because I can't get the editor to treat each suit individually in regards to its modifiers. Although now I'm thinking that if I give each suit it's own armoury section it will. Like maybe I'M not treating each suit individually. Gonna try that tonight

Jonskichov wrote:@Byte I should probably say that the latest version released a couple of days ago (1.12.05b) is fixed so when you click an error, it rakes you to the broken element. There's also a pile of other little fixes.

Thanks!


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austinitor wrote:I've been working on the Space Marines, Imperial Guard, Eldar, and Sisters of Battle (the armies we have around the house).

The Space Marines are mostly done (and greatly improved over the RandomHit file, i.e. actually having weapons stats and special rules), and I have added as many FAQ'd changes and 6th updates as I can. I've likewise included the Stormtalon Gunship.

Likewise, I've added doubling of FoC choices at 2000 points, triggered by selecting additional troops and HQ choices.
The scheme mostly seems to work, but there may be edge cases.

The other three, so far, mostly just have the Fortifications added.

I think my index may not quite work right (it is Dropbox hosted), so I've sent the link to Jon to debug.

I'll provide the link, just in case:

https://dl.dropbox.com/s/ek1psxskpi076d5/index.xml?dl=1

I would like to use your catalogs. Is the link working?

I updated mine to include an option for adding an extra detachment (available at every 2000 pts). This guarantees that the requirement of FOC is always correct. I believe that this is better than automatic increment when one is choosing more than the number of troop slots, ... because it handles all edge cases.

Oh I wish for the day when we can finally have some kind of collaboration going on with these repository.

Tau (Davylove21's WIP).cat

My efforts so far. Need to add specials in but I might hold off because I'll never use one. Some things need work but if you have the codex, it's not hard.

I liked Battlescribe, but I have to admit that I liked Army Builder better - to the extent that I was willing to pay for it. I'm not sure if this got fixed or not, but honestly the biggest reason I decided to go with AB over Battlescribe was the simple fact that Battlescribe said I had an illegal list when I built my 30-man Ork Boyz mob to have 3 rokkits and a nob. Evidently having that nob instead of a 30th boy doesn't allow me to throw in a third special weapon.

Locclo wrote:I liked Battlescribe, but I have to admit that I liked Army Builder better - to the extent that I was willing to pay for it. I'm not sure if this got fixed or not, but honestly the biggest reason I decided to go with AB over Battlescribe was the simple fact that Battlescribe said I had an illegal list when I built my 30-man Ork Boyz mob to have 3 rokkits and a nob. Evidently having that nob instead of a 30th boy doesn't allow me to throw in a third special weapon.

I have not ran into that error yet..

@Locclo @ruff
Data files are really the Achilles heel of these kinds of apps (even for AB I would say, though they've had a lot more time for their data files to stabilize).

After I received a certain email I had to stop hosting data files with the application. They now get handled by various community groups. Randomhit do a fantastic job (and work really hard) to keep data files up to date and any problems usually get fixed pretty quick. Just make sure you click the update button from time to time to update your files.

One other thing, the desktop version has the editors included to create/modify/fix data files. They're pretty easy to use, so if you find a problem with a file it should be quick to fix yourself if needs be.

I've got a few things up my sleeve for making sharing data files between users a bit easier, but it needs to wait until I finish adding allies support (working on it as we speak...).

@Locclo: BS has a very nice community that is quick at fixing things. I understand that you went for AB and I respect that, but check us out once in a while, I am sure you will find many new things.

And for those errors, try pinging the guys that maintain your repository. They fix it in a jiffy.

austinitor wrote:I'll provide the link, just in case:

https://dl.dropbox.com/s/ek1psxskpi076d5/index.xml?dl=1

I can confirm that attempting to use that URL as a repository results in an error:

Errors occurred updating data files from repositories
>https://dl.dropbox.com/s/ek1psxskpi076d5/index.xml?dl=1: Error updating from repository https://dl.dropbox.com/s/ek1psxskpi076d5/index.xml?dl=1: java.lang.Exception: Could not update one or more files. There may be a problem with the repository.

Thanks for putting the effort in! I'm definitely looking forward to using the working version

I've updated the link; I guess I didn't realize I needed to make it public (color me a Dropbox newb).

Hooray! BattleScribe Mobile Pro is now available for iPod/iPhone in the iTunes Appstore!

The free version was rejected for a stupid reason, so I'm working on getting it resubmitted. I'll announce on Twitter/Google+/the website when it becomes available if you'd prefer to wait.

It's good, but there are some annoyance in the data files, like in the Ogre list it doesn't add the costs of Iron Fists and Armour per model.

It almost makes me want to demand my money back

Just downloaded it on my iPad, a slick tool and well worth the $2.99. Nice work!

For those hate'n on Army Builder a couple quick points:

- It's been available on Mac for a couple of months now.

- It's designed to be both a list builder AND a player aid, including all the quick reference you need to play the game, which is why the print outs are more detailed. However you can flip some settings for leaner print out options as well if you'd like.


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That said, it's fantastic to see a portable option like Battlescribe. Anyone working on Dust Warfare files for it yet?

Jonskichov wrote:Hooray! BattleScribe Mobile Pro is now available for iPod/iPhone in the iTunes Appstore!

Me love you long time.

@marielle Yeah there can be issues with the data files. They're community maintained (I can't host them or include them with the app for copyright reasons).

I'd suggest either notifying the people you got the file from so they can fix it, or you can fix it yourself using the desktop version of BattleScribe.

Happy to refund if you want


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@RussWakelin Woo it works on the iPad?! I... had no idea lol. Glad to hear it's OK on the bigger screen

I do plan to do a proper tablet interface at some point.

PS- to anyone hoping to use my Eldar repo (which does seem to work now), I fixed the "insufficent Aspect Warriors" issue from the Eldar Enhanced file I started from.

Since you're active here...

I'm trying to use the same repo in both my desktop and iPhone verision of battlescribe. (the randomhit repo) It works fine (www.randomhit.org/battlescribe_data/index40k.html) but the iPhone is just chilling at "Downloading data from Repository..."

Is there that much to download?

@rigeld2 It depends quite a bit on your connection. When I tested with an iPod touch over WiFi I think it took about 30 seconds.

It not only needs to download the files, but unzip them and check whether they are in the right format. If they aren't it needs to upgrade the files. This process can take a bit of time.

Jonskichov wrote:@rigeld2 It depends quite a bit on your connection. When I tested with an iPod touch over WiFi I think it took about 30 seconds.

It not only needs to download the files, but unzip them and check whether they are in the right format. If they aren't it needs to upgrade the files. This process can take a bit of time.

http://www.randomhit.org/battlescribe_data/index40k.xml

So just throwing that in the Manage Data section should "just work"?
Or, since you mentioned zip files, should I use http://www.randomhit.org/battlescribe_data/files/WH40K/Warhammer_40k.gst.zip ?

edit: Okay, the xml file is evidently not right I'm getting it to throw invalid data now.... I'll figure out what it wants. Thanks.

I tested with their full repo and that was fine. I wonder if their wh40k one is broken? Not able to test right now.

All you should need to do is enter the URL, click add then click update data.

You shouldn't have to do anything with the zip files - in a pinch, you can use them to manually place the data files on your phone.

@Jon: when last I checked, the RandomHit 40k repo was broken and their admin posted something to their forums akin to him lacking the time to fix it.

I just tried it again, though, and it at least seems to work.

I use it, thumbs up!

Hi sorry for sounding dumb but does anyone have a 6th ig datafile as i cant find one via google

Question for Jon: it appears that it is possible for their to be collisions between datafiles with the same name.

Maybe this is already out there, but if not, perhaps it might be worth mentioning somewhere that one should uniquely name his data files?


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@Toumas: my repo, posted above, has one.

I wonder: has anyone considered any way of implementing Allies?

^ Yes, Jon is working on adding that feature right now.

Also, Battlescribe is now available for iOS!

Unfortunately, Apple rejected the free version but approved the paid version for some reason, so you'll either have to pay the $3 or wait until the free version comes out.

I think I've ironed out the bugs in my Corsairs Catalog(ue).

woo ios5! Wonder if I have an extra 3 bucks for it right now. Gotta finish my BT catalog now! And then find some good ones from other people for IG

austinitor wrote:@Jon: when last I checked, the RandomHit 40k repo was broken and their admin posted something to their forums akin to him lacking the time to fix it.

I just tried it again, though, and it at least seems to work.

Glad to hear it. They must have fixed something. Their full repo with everything is a good fallback - I've tried it a couple of times and it's been fine.

austinitor wrote:Question for Jon: it appears that it is possible for their to be collisions between datafiles with the same name.

Maybe this is already out there, but if not, perhaps it might be worth mentioning somewhere that one should uniquely name his data files?

Hmm this could be a problem when two repos contain the same file. I'll have to look into it.

has anyone been able to get an ig update together yet, as i said in my earlyer post i cant find one

@Toumas: again, there is one in my repo, posted above.

Out of curiosity, what's the best way to deal with bugs/mistakes in an army library? I've corrected/improved a couple things in the GK roster. and I'm wondering how to incorporate those into the release. I forget where I specifically grabbed it from and can't check while at work, but I believe it's one of the "big" files. Are these generally maintained by one person that I should simply email?

I'm having a gak of a time finding the repositories I need actually hosted for the iPhone version. I can find them as downloads, but as I have no way to host them myself, I can't do anything with them. Kind of starting to feel like a wasted purchase.

If you want repository from other people, there are plenty on the net.
If you want to host your own repository, have you tried? http://www.battlescribe.net/help-dataindexer.html

All you need is a Dropbox account.

@Magc8ball: I' have nlo idea who the maintainer is for any file, but shoot me a link to your updated file and I'll hook it in to my repo.

Adding either the XML or gst.zip link gives me a perpetual 'adding files from repository' screen.

What files should I be linking? Or is there a way to manually add the file structure to an iPhone through explorer?

By adding file, do you mean inputting the repository link? If so then you need to search for "Battlescribe data repository" on Google. There should be one provided by randomhit last time I checked.

But what file do I select? Or do I just add the whole HTML page?

@-Loki-: the one that ends in index.xml.

Well, I finally found a repository that worked for the Battlescribe on my pc. Now it's trying to add to the mobile version. Hopefully it works.

edit - Nope. The randomhit 40k repository just sat there trying to add it for 40 minutes. The PC version added it in about 15 seconds. Also tried one provided by rigeld2, which did the same - sat there for half an hour just saying that it was adding data from the repository. Both on the same connection I used on my PC and through 3G.

So is the current consensus that the PC version is fine but on mobile devices it's a bridge too far?

@WanderingMinstrel: There is no such consensus. Battlescribe release version work perfectly in all devices.

yeah, my mobile version works fine

I just deleted it cause my phone needed space and I never really used it that much anywho

Yeah, works mostly fine for me aside from an iOS bug leohart and I raised.

edit - apologies

I was doing one key thing wrong. I was hitting Update data without hitting the dirty great '+', so it was infinitely trying to update nothing. It now works.

Just a note if the developers are reading this, you might want to add in a fix where if no repository is actually in the list, it doesn't infinitely try to add one. Especially when theres no cancel button and you need to power the whole device off to get out of the loop.

hey guys, new user here.

I've been using battlescribe for the past however long it's been out and I recently started to get into editing the catalogues, mainly to fix bugs, add variants and adjust them according to the FAQ's that are out.

edit: done adjusting and finalizing the tau roster so it works properly (as much as it can, anyways), so here's a repository. http://lanceglaive.hostoi.com/index.xml

austinitor wrote:I've been working on the Space Marines, Imperial Guard, Eldar, and Sisters of Battle (the armies we have around the house).
I'm likewise working on an Eldar Corsair data file, and have it done, and think I've ironed out the bugs.

The Space Marines are mostly done (and greatly improved over the RandomHit file, i.e. actually having weapons stats and special rules), and I have added as many FAQ'd changes and 6th updates as I can. I've likewise included the Stormtalon Gunship.

Likewise, I've added doubling of FoC choices at 2000 points, triggered by selecting additional troops and HQ choices.
The scheme mostly seems to work, but there may be edge cases.

The other three, so far, mostly just have the Fortifications added.

I think my index may not quite work right (it is Dropbox hosted), so I've sent the link to Jon to debug.

I'll provide the link, just in case:

Updated Link:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/23999760/6e/index.xml

I just installed yours and my version doesnt have the Space Marine Codex in it. Any idea what i need to do?

Question for anyone using the mobile version with randomhits repo - I can't seem to get some features to work. Mycetic spores I basically can't add to any unit, and Tyranid Warriors I can't add a heavy weapon warrior. The option is there, but greyed out. The same file works fine in the desktop version. Am I missing something else?

killerpat wrote:I just installed yours and my version doesnt have the Space Marine Codex in it. Any idea what i need to do?

Hmm... I just double-checked the index, and see that I needed to up-version the Game System entry under the Space Marines file. Perhaps that will have sorted it out for you?

Just to let people know I've set up a repository for the Dropzone Commander files I'm building:
http://www.specialist-games.co.uk/dzc/index.xml

First attempt at making Battlescribe files, they came out a little messy, mainly because I can't figure out how to have "Game Type" affect validation (so some units are only available in certain game types, and in certain amounts)

@Loki: there is currently a bug in the iOS version of Battlescribe. It doesn't do validation correctly. That is why you cannot add mycetic spores,... because there is a rule validation (to make sure you cannot take it when there are more than X models of something).

A bug report has been filled about this. Give it a little bit of time.

austinitor wrote:

killerpat wrote:I just installed yours and my version doesnt have the Space Marine Codex in it. Any idea what i need to do?

Hmm... I just double-checked the index, and see that I needed to up-version the Game System entry under the Space Marines file. Perhaps that will have sorted it out for you?

I just got an error when i opened battlescribe, i didnt have a chance to copy it but it said it was in relation to Space Marines.

I just reinstalled the data and it still doesnt show up.

thanks for any help.

killerpat wrote:I just got an error when i opened battlescribe, i didnt have a chance to copy it but it said it was in relation to Space Marines.

I just reinstalled the data and it still doesnt show up.

thanks for any help.

Sorry for the headache.

I think I have it sorted out, now (I re-named the files, generated new Catalog[ue] IDs, upversioned them, and re-indexed).

It may just be something on my end, but i still see all of the other codices but still no space marine.

Im not getting the doubling of the force chart either.

Sorry about the problems.

Are you looking under the game system "Warhammer 40,000 6th"?

If not, you may perhaps be looking at files from another repo.

austinitor wrote:Are you looking under the game system "Warhammer 40,000 6th"?

If not, you may perhaps be looking at files from another repo.

That was it. Thanks! i love this thing.

leohart wrote:@Loki: there is currently a bug in the iOS version of Battlescribe. It doesn't do validation correctly. That is why you cannot add mycetic spores,... because there is a rule validation (to make sure you cannot take it when there are more than X models of something).

A bug report has been filled about this. Give it a little bit of time.

Awesome, glad to know.

Outside of my earlier whining due to my usual ability to make stuff not work, this is a great bit of software.

thank you so much austinitor for the ig files.

@toumas: enjoy! They're just modified/updated/improved (i.e., rules descriptions added) versions of the RandomHit files, so I can't claim all the credit.

Nice no more waiting for Army Builder updates. I just plopped the new Stormtalon rules into the Space Marine roster, and waala! I can now point up the entire army.

Also I like the output much better.

@Wagguy80, welcome to the cool side. :-) Btw, if you use my repository, Stormtalon, fortification and double FOC is already supported.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/565769/40KCatalogues/index.xml

I think some other gentlemen also post theirs which probably support that too. You know, just in case you don't want to edit yourself.

Just a quick update.

The issue where you couldn't select some items (eg Mycetic Spore) on iOS has been fixed. I've resubmitted to the Appstore, but no idea how long they will take to approve the update (or not...). This bug also caused some incorrect roster errors to be reported.

Also, I've resubmitted a fixed up free version, so fingers crossed it gets through this time...

I'll announce on the BattleScribe website when (if?) these become available.

Will not use it. I rather use pen and paper, works much better in my humble opinion, but I do understand why people do use it. Its a mater of preference I suppose

Some people also prefer walking over driving.. but one is a lot faster :p

There seems to be some problems with the new six edition ork file so, while this file is being fixed is there any chance of posting a location of the old one.

Just FYI, the update is on the AppStore and does indeed fix the issue with some unit upgrades not being selectable.

-Loki- wrote:Just FYI, the update is on the AppStore and does indeed fix the issue with some unit upgrades not being selectable.

Stole my thunder...


Thanks for the update!

So... who wants to do a Dropzone Commander battlescribe

fidel wrote:So... who wants to do a Dropzone Commander battlescribe

You mean apart from the one I've been doing for the last month or so?

I'm thinking of doing at least a Haqqislam file for infinity. At least there's no options, just a bunch of different equipment load outs within each unit type.

While I love devil teams builder, it doesn't help me if I want to make a new list at the store.

I like it, works great on PC and on my android tab.

I prefer to build stuff in the PC version, and then the mobile one is good for display / reference / last minute tweaks.

As a possible feature request - any way you guys can add some sort of 'shared' roster storage between pc and mobile? maybe leverging some Dropbox apis or whatever?

Really enjoy this program....especially for the price. My thanks to the creator(s).
Army Builder is way overpriced....im not paying 39.99 for a program that does basic addition for me.... I would say at least it collected everything in one place but thats why i bought a codex. paper and a pen goes a long way....

Charax wrote:

fidel wrote:So... who wants to do a Dropzone Commander battlescribe

You mean apart from the one I've been doing for the last month or so?

well hurry up then! I want my PHR army naowz!!!

Nah but seriously take your time... knowing you it will be awesomesauce! (finish PHR first )

Not sure does anyone know or care, but under the Black Templar codex, the Terminator squads are 240 pts when they should be 200 pts for 5 of them.

bluedestiny wrote:Not sure does anyone know or care, but under the Black Templar codex, the Terminator squads are 240 pts when they should be 200 pts for 5 of them.

Look around for a better repository, or even make one yourself. It also helps to know which repository youre using.

bluedestiny wrote:Not sure does anyone know or care, but under the Black Templar codex, the Terminator squads are 240 pts when they should be 200 pts for 5 of them.

That is a simple one to fix in the editor.

I have been redoing the whole black templar one because I have found lots of problems, but I got busy with work and didn't have a chance to finish. Maybe next week I will finish it.

Oh yeah. If any of you guys are not already following Battlescribe on the social media, make sure you do so:

https://plus.google.com/s/battlescribe

It's a good way to show the author that we appreciate his work.

Woohoo! Finally the free version for iOS is available!

Sorry for the wait on that one :-(

Here it is: http://goo.gl/7EG2I

What's the difference between the paid and free versions? Just curious, a friend got the free android version.

So where exactly are you supposed to get data files for this program? The link a couple pages back is broken, and any google search turns up links that are woefully out of date.

I'm on Win 7 PC.

@Loki
Paid version has the ads removed plus a little bonus dice statistics calculator as a thank you :-)

@Griever
Personally I use the Randomhit.org repo: http://randomhit.org/battlescribe_data/index.xml

I've started using this on the iPad and I have to admit that I really like it. It can be a bit clunky to use at first but once you get the hang of it, it's a doddle

 Cyporiean wrote:

Any plans to create Brushfire datafiles?

Look, Army Painter finally has limited support for 6th edition. http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/30/468484.page

Don't even have fortification slot. I have no idea if they even support double FOC for primary detachment.

@Griever: if you use the randomhit ones and mine (below), you can also get fortification, double FOC, some fixing of wrong point costs, ...

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/565769/40KCatalogues/index.xml

 Jonskichov wrote:
@Loki
Paid version has the ads removed plus a little bonus dice statistics calculator as a thank you :-)

@Griever
Personally I use the Randomhit.org repo: http://randomhit.org/battlescribe_data/index.xml

One stop shop!

What is the 40K enhanced? It only opens IG?

Hey guys. I've had a quick look through but I couldn't see it, and a google search hasn't found anything. I'm currently working on my own files (edited versions of the ones from Randomhit), generally doing tidying or just personalising them, as well as adding in many many Forgeworld items into the Imperial Guard file. I've just updated the WH40K gamesystem to support 6th ed changes too.

Anyway, to the point. Does anyone have a catalogue for the Ork Dread Mob army list from Imperial Armour 8 - Raid on Kastorel Novem?

Cheers,

Mike

Quick question about how the roster works.

Lets say I set a unit size at 10. Then I tick up the inclusion of a champion or other special character attachment that appears in that unit list.

Does the total for the unit now equal 11 mini's, or is it still set by my original unit size of 10, and the character simply replaces one of the default troopers.

I'm assuming the second option as that makes sense however just wanted to verify if this matches others expectations, thanks.

It's the second one, or at least that's been the case in the lists I've played with. It's quite possibly list dependant, so you may find that other lists handle champions differently.

It depends on how the author designed the list.

For Tyranids, a Broodlord is added as an additional model, as evidenced by it being spearate from the squad model count, and costing 60pts (the cost of a Genestealer + Broodlord upgrade). Same with a Tyranid Warrior with heavy weapon, it's actually added as a whole new Warrior attached to the squad.

I've seen some variation. In the case of Eldar Exarchs, the codex specifies a +12 point upgrade to exchange an Aspect Warrior for an Exarch. Whoever did the Randomhit file didn't bother to implement the conditional logic[i](i.e., decrement aspect warriors if exarch) so the roster ends up indicating the wrong number of models. I've fixed this in the updated file I host.

Just downloaded and started playing around with it, definitely works well if a little clunky. The Tau one in particular is a bit odd when you're playing with different suit configurations and team leaders and whatnot. Overall though it's a solid replacement for Army Builder.

So really it sounds like the more effort the person who built the file put in, the better / easier it will be to create a list

I'm liking it so far, got my data from the Randomhit index and apart from it crashing all the time when selecting items or special additions it's worked well. Again, it will probably turn out to be a fault in the list (Lizardmen) and not the app.

Bought BS Mobile Pro for my Kindle Fire and loved it. Broke the Fire (dummy me , no replacement plan) and just replaced it with a Fire HD. When I went to download my apps to the new kindle, noticed that BS was missing from my 'cloud.' After going to 'manage your kindle,' I was a bit surprised (both Android OS, right?), and disappointed, to see that the Fire HD wasn't compatible with BS (or vice versa).

Any chance of a Fire HD compatible version in the near future?

@Verd_Ward
Didn't realise it wasn't compatible with the new Fires. I'll have to take a look. Hopefully I can get it sorted for the new version.

Thanks for letting me know :-)

Glad to help. Looking forward to the new version.

Is CSM available anywhere yet?

No, please make it.

I'd also like to see an option to reverse the colors on BattleScribe. White letters on a black background would aave a lot of battery time.

 SoloFalcon1138 wrote:
I'd also like to see an option to reverse the colors on BattleScribe. White letters on a black background would aave a lot of battery time.

It really wouldn't. Modern LCD/LED panels still power black pixels, so the power difference between black and white is literally negligible.

rigeld2 wrote:

 SoloFalcon1138 wrote:
I'd also like to see an option to reverse the colors on BattleScribe. White letters on a black background would aave a lot of battery time.

It really wouldn't. Modern LCD/LED panels still power black pixels, so the power difference between black and white is literally negligible.

Modern LCD are Oled and dont draw power for operation of black pixels.

davou wrote:

rigeld2 wrote:

 SoloFalcon1138 wrote:
I'd also like to see an option to reverse the colors on BattleScribe. White letters on a black background would aave a lot of battery time.

It really wouldn't. Modern LCD/LED panels still power black pixels, so the power difference between black and white is literally negligible.

Modern LCD are Oled and dont draw power for operation of black pixels.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OLED
Even OLED still uses power to display black. Yes, it uses less than a normal LED, but OLED panels aren't widespread enough for me to call them "modern".

rigeld2 wrote:
but OLED panels aren't widespread enough for me to call them "modern".

Sorry I was under the impression that they didnt use any power to activate a black pixel, and did so by just switching that pixel to 'off'.

And they're very widespread in the instance the person you replied to was talking about. Almost all mid-high end cellphones and tablets operate OLED and AMOLED. Why would OP be concerned about battery life on a computer or TV screen?

also;

The amount of power the display consumes varies significantly depending on the colour and brightness shown. As an example, one commercial QVGA OLED display consumes 3 watts while showing black text on a white background, but only 0.7 watts showing white text on a black background.[10] Because the black pixels actually turn off, AMOLED also has contrast ratios that are significantly better than LCD.

Mian Dong; Choi, Y.-S.K; Lin Zhong (July 2009). "Power modeling of graphical user interfaces on OLED displays". Design Automation Conference, 2009. DAC '09. 46th ACM/IEEE (IEEE): 652–657.

As I understand it, only the white text would draw power non?

Mine got CSM weeks ago. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/565769/40KCatalogues/index.xml

@leoheart spacewolves does not appear to work in your file. On the android verion it just gives an error while trying to create a roster. On the ios version it loads but none of the categories (hq,elite etc.) are there. I have not tried it on the pc version.

Anfie - works fine on my iPad.

if only the ipad had its own version rather than the silly iphone version. Looks sooo bad on the ipad.

On the pc it throws the error below:

*removed the error as it made the page look ugly

What link are you using for the data URL? It "just works" for me

@anfie: I download battlescribe from the website. I used my repository. I hit the Update button. I create a new roster with SW. I don't see any error.

I would recommend that you look in your battlescribe folder and make sure there are files in the gamesystems folder and the catalogues folder AFTER you ran battlescribe and let it updates from the repository.

Re the errors you're seeing, a couple of things to try.

1) Delete your data files and re-download from your repo (just in case one has been chewed up for some reason),

2) I think one or two v1.13.00b data files have made it into the wild... The new file format in this version cannot be opened by v1.12.xx and you'll get errors like that. On the desktop it should notify you that the data file is not compatible though.

v1.13.00 (with allies support) will hopefully be available sometime in the next few days - I'm just waiting for Apple to approve it for the Appstore...

I tried deleting the game files and catalogues a few times and it made the error go away but when I created a roster it was empty (no HQ, elite, troop options appeared).

I have switched back to just using the ones at randomhit.org. I will try it again when the new version comes out.

BS 1.3 released today. I have updated my repo to work with the new version.

I appear to be getting an issue with the list expecting two troops choices from both lists if I select an allied force.

Am abalone in this or is it user error?!

leohart wrote:
BS 1.3 released today. I have updated my repo to work with the new version.

For windows? Can you post a link?

H

Yeah, it works on Windows, Android and iOS.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/565769/40KCatalogues/index.xml

Sorry - I have 1.12 for windows, and was looking for an update. Further sleuthing has found it right in front of my eyes.

Thanks - H

The new version of balltscribe and the new lists from leohart both seem to be working together fine for me now.
Thanks everyone for the help.

@azreal13 I am not having that issue, it seems to only insist on 1 HQ and 1 troop.

Yeah I'm having issues where if I create a list with more than one detachment, it starts acting wonky:

- It still gives you an error that you need to select the minimum required HQ/Troops even after you have selected them. This can happen for one or both detachments
- The buttons to increment an option (such as the number of marines in a unit) will either not work at all, or will not display the proper number you have selected until you click on that line in the current selections window.
- This happens with most combinations of catalogs, but not all. From Leohart's depository for example, Necrons as a standard detachment and CSM as an allied detachment works fine as far as I can tell. If you swap them and make a list with Necrons as the allied detachment and CSM as the standard, you start getting some of the issues I described above.

If you run a single detachment, it seems to function fine with no issues.

Is it possible to make lists for Infinity using Battlescribe? I'm wondering since Infinity uses two limiting factors (you get a certain number of points and a certain number of SWC) and every unit has a bunch of different load-outs.

SWC?

EDIT: Okay, I downloaded the rules and had a quick look at how you build lists. It should be possible to create a BS system for Infinity, but you'll run into the issue where it doesn't really support a system of "sub-points" such as the SWC. You can have it calculate and display how many SWC are available to you, but if something costs more than 1 SWC, I don't think you would be able to have BS actually limit how many you can take.

leohart wrote:
Yeah, it works on Windows, Android and iOS.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/565769/40KCatalogues/index.xml

The points for the Dark Apostle are incorrect. The Codex says 105, but these datafiles have him at 110.

 Maelstrom808 wrote:
SWC?

EDIT: Okay, I downloaded the rules and had a quick look at how you build lists. It should be possible to create a BS system for Infinity, but you'll run into the issue where it doesn't really support a system of "sub-points" such as the SWC. You can have it calculate and display how many SWC are available to you, but if something costs more than 1 SWC, I don't think you would be able to have BS actually limit how many you can take.

Oh, okay. No worries, I think I can easily limit myself to stick within the limits I'll see if I can make battlescribe work for Infinity then...

I'm getting "Failed files: Warhammer 40,000 6th Edition (2012)" from @leohart's repo on the Android 1.13.00b version.

Edit: deleting an empty Flames of War system file (not from either repo I currently have installed) and a file length zero roster file sorted things out.

drewsus wrote:

leohart wrote:
Yeah, it works on Windows, Android and iOS.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/565769/40KCatalogues/index.xml

The points for the Dark Apostle are incorrect. The Codex says 105, but these datafiles have him at 110.

Thanks drewsus. It was very nice of you to report the error. I have fixed it in the latest revision. Thanks to people like you that we are all having a better and better catalogue file.

Sincerely.

@austinator: I am glad to hear that it works out for you. Thanks for doing the leg work.

Nevermind....

Using Battlescribe in Linux (ubuntu) and ran into a small issue.

making a tau list under standard rules and I selected a piece of special issue wargear for my HQ (Airburst Frag projector) along with a plasma rifle and shield generator. when attempting to save the list i get a warning that " suit only has 2 options do you still wish to save?"

seems like a minor bug but thought I would let you know.

@Mecha_buddha. I would recommend trying to contact the catalogue developer directly. If you got your catalogue from randomhit repo, go there and tell them about this bug. Someone will fix it.

I'm finding when I try to add an HQ choice to my allied detachment the app crashes completely.

Could this be caused by a catalogue error or is it a SW issue?

I no longer use the randomhit SW one since mine has better info and cleaner interface. I don't see any issue at all with using SW as an allied detachment. I would suggest update to the latest version of the app.

I really hope we have a button to wipe all catalogue andd gamesystems and do a full redownload. Until then, use your file browser app to delete everything under BattleScribe/catalogues and BattleScribe/gamesystems.

leohart wrote:
I no longer use the randomhit SW one since mine has better info and cleaner interface. I don't see any issue at all with using SW as an allied detachment. I would suggest update to the latest version of the app.

I really hope we have a button to wipe all catalogue andd gamesystems and do a full redownload. Until then, use your file browser app to delete everything under BattleScribe/catalogues and BattleScribe/gamesystems.

Sorry, by SW I meant software not Space Wolves! Also it is your catalogue I'm using now as the randomhit ones were causing me issues.

I have seen a reported case by a local gamer that if he adds any unit from the allied detachment, it will cause a crash of the app. The desktop version works fine. I think it must be the new format causing problem with Battlescribe. Can you try uninstalling battlescribe, wipe the battlescribe folder using an explorer (e.g. Astro File Manager on Android) and reinstall?

Ok, tried that, no luck unfortunately.

It's a BA list with an allied C:SM detachment. The error happens consistently when I try to add an HQ option to the BA section.

Warpath thread.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/410354.page#4919502

^ Yep, feel free to add my repo to your list everyone if you have any interest in KoW or Warpath.

I'm very serious and quick about updating the datafiles and managed to release Warpath 2.0 and all of its army lists within 36 hours of Mantic making them public.

The latest update was very well-timed, and I've already made full use of it.

I can't load the repo for 40k on my iPad. Here is the link ivevtried several times unsuccessfully to load:

http://www.randomhit.org/battlescribe_data/index40k.xml

Is that the right link? If yes what am I doing wrong?

Make sure to click the add button (the plus sign) before hitting refresh.

Thanks!

Hey all,

I know the updated file format has caused a few problems here and there (most of the problems were lurking in the old files, it's a case of BattleScribe being more sensitive to them). Things should improve as data file authors get a chance to fix things up - the editors will flag any issues.

Anyway, to the point: I've added a "delete all data" option on the menu of the Manage Data screen (on mobile). If you're having problems, a quick way to (hopefully) fix it would be to use that to clear your data before downloading your files fresh from your repo.

Hope that helps :-)

I wonder if I've mucked something up. until today, I used the data file from randomhit.org, but I just changed over to using leohart's (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/565769/40KCatalogues/index.xml) because it seemed more up to date. when I loaded up my roster file, I got a message that a few selections were automatically removed (weapon selections and such), but that was quick to sort out.

now, when I mouse over weapon options and such (e.g., boltgun, multi-melta, etc) it no longer gives me a popup with the weapon stats; just the weapon name. hull points for each vehicle are empty, though their other stats appear. when I click view roster, the rule summary section at the bottom is blank even though I've selected the rule summary option in layout options. this is all for codex: space marines, btw.

is this an issue with the data file or something else?

I don't know how comprehensive that catalogue is, but trying to use a roster in one catalogue when it was made in another (even if they have a common background) will frequently lead to issues. Especially with the data file structure changes, two different people fixing the file could have fixed it different ways (read: have different GUIDs).

Have you tried a brand new roster?

I'm loving the new version of this, and being able to have allies in the same roster for 40k is really cool and easy to work with, great job guys

Ok, I'm on the radomhit.org site and trying to download the Space Wolves file on my iphone and I keep getting the message "Safari cannot download this file". Is the file a flash file? Because if it is, I believe iphone does not support flash.

@varl: which catalogue in my repository are you using? Not all catalogues have full details. I aim for correctness and quick creation over full details. You can check out Kn1ght's work which has full details if you prefer to have all the rules accessible via BS. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/565769/Kn1ghtCatalogues/index.xml
@spacewolf407: you don't need to download anything. You need to find a link that ends with .xml. That is the repository link. You need to paste that link into BattleScribe "Manage Data", then hit the big plus button.

@leohart: ah, that makes sense. I'll have a look at kn1ght's. thanks!

update: alas, kn1ght's data doesn't seem to include codex space marines. any other data file recommendations?

I know that mine contains the important stats (BS,WS,HP, ...) but not all the special rules. Is there a specific unit that you want to know the stats for that is missing?

leohart wrote:
@varl: which catalogue in my repository are you using? Not all catalogues have full details. I aim for correctness and quick creation over full details. You can check out Kn1ght's work which has full details if you prefer to have all the rules accessible via BS. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/565769/Kn1ghtCatalogues/index.xml
@spacewolf407: you don't need to download anything. You need to find a link that ends with .xml. That is the repository link. You need to paste that link into BattleScribe "Manage Data", then hit the big plus button.

leohart thanks! After a week of trying to get this thing to work, I finally have it up and running.

@leohart: mostly I just wanted to make sure it wasn't an issue with the data files I was using and that seems to be the case (i.e., working as intended). I have the relevant rule books, so I can always look up what's missing myself. cheers

I am pretty sure that it is correct. But if you find any point error, just let me know.

New version for android out. Has solved my issue with crashes, so happy bunny once more.

I've been looking for a way to put an Eldar list together, on the same roster as an allied IG.
The only data files I can fiind either don't have Eldar on them, or don't allow for allies detachments....
Anyone know of an index that does both? I'm only using indexes posted in this thread.

Try mine? Linked in sig file.

Hello Guys,

I have been using Battle Scribe for 5th for a while, Now I'm starting to switch to 6th. I cant find a good Database. Can I get a link? I have Chaos, Grey Knights and Space wolves.
Thanks

There are quite a few just up a couple of posts.

Just downloaded this so maybe someone can help me, but I don't understand this catalogue business at all. It says search for repositories but just goes to a Google search where I don't actually know what I am looking for.

It's really frustrating as all the help files don't really explain it, they just tell you that you need data repositories and that they are a collection of data files made by people on the net. Where do I find them? How do I know if they are good? What on earth do I do with them?

Step 1: Find a repository link. This typically ends with .xml
Step 2: Paste it into your Android/iOS/Desktop Battlescribe under Manage Data/Repository
Step 3: Hit the Add/Plus button
Step 4: Refresh.
Step 5: Try creating a roster.

How do you know if they are good? One of the followings
1- You already know the rules and point cost since you own the books. Thus, you would know if something is right.
2- You know that the person who maintains the catalogue is actively updating it.
3- You just try it out and see if it matches the cost in the book.

leohart wrote:
Step 1: Find a repository link. This typically ends with .xml
Step 2: Paste it into your Android/iOS/Desktop Battlescribe under Manage Data/Repository
Step 3: Hit the Add/Plus button
Step 4: Refresh.
Step 5: Try creating a roster.

How do you know if they are good? One of the followings
1- You already know the rules and point cost since you own the books. Thus, you would know if something is right.
2- You know that the person who maintains the catalogue is actively updating it.
3- You just try it out and see if it matches the cost in the book.

Right, I got all that from the help files. But my point is when I click the 'search for repositories' button, it brings up a google search, and it's just all forums with discussions or individual data files for a single army. None of which ended in .xml might I add. Is there not an overall file for the game's data itself or something? There is just not enough explained. With Army Builder it was so simple as it was all encoded in and the programme found everything for you.

EDIT: Just saw the link you posted above for those files by Kn1ght. They are all 5th edition files though, or is that just in reference to when the Codex was released and not the game edition?

EDIT 2: Got it working, thanks.

leohart wrote:
Step 1: Find a repository link. This typically ends with .xml
Step 2: Paste it into your Android/iOS/Desktop Battlescribe under Manage Data/Repository
Step 3: Hit the Add/Plus button
Step 4: Refresh.
Step 5: Try creating a roster.

That step right there. Hit the plus button. I don't know if they've added it, but when I got the first version, there was no warning saying 'hey, moron, that plus button? push it'. So I sat there for hours wondering why the repository was taking so long to add, and it was basically stuck in a loop.

@Godless: The reason that it is harder to find a repository file is because Battlescribe doesn't want to get into trouble with GW. GW sent them a notice before. It takes a bit more work, but it is worth it for the price tag.

@Loki: I am not sure if that bug was fixed. But I have seen it happens.

Has anyone found the repository file for CSM 6th? The only files ending in .xml I can find are the ones linked on this page but chaos is in 5th there.

Can anyone point me in the right direction?


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Never mind, found it.

@Lizard: try @leohart's; it is on his sig line, here.

Thanks guys

Luminous Lizard wrote:
Has anyone found the repository file for CSM 6th? The only files ending in .xml I can find are the ones linked on this page but chaos is in 5th there.

Can anyone point me in the right direction?


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Never mind, found it.

where did you find it, i still cant

I must have missed it. Where do you get the roster editor from? I'd like to try my hand at creating/editing one.

Have you tried the one I posted in my sig? It has CSM6th ed.

Roster Editor, Catalogue Editors, ... are all available as part of Battlescribe installation. Try going to Battlescribe folder if you cannot find it.

What's the difference in the free battlescribe app and the $3 one?

Nothing especially useful. The pro version has no ads, an extra dice rolling feature, and a good warm feeling that you supported a fellow wargamer who puts good work into making something for everyone for free.

 TheLionOfTheForest wrote:
What's the difference in the free battlescribe app and the $3 one?

Just ask yourself, "Has this appp saved me $3 of hassle?", and then buy it anyway.

What's $3, apart from a chance for your credit card company to block your card :(

Well considering I downloaded the XML file listed above and just perusing the BA list I can see that it's incomplete. Not worth the $3 if I cant build a list with it due to missing wargear and quirks like not being able to just buy certain squad upgrades. Or only one of an upgrade when you should be anle to buy 2. Or not being able to just purhase heavy weapons for a dev squad without it auto adding in another marine.

Guess I just have to wait for GW's sure to be overpriced army builder app/program.

Edit~

It can't add a heavy weapon to a devastators squad without adding in an additional cost for a marine, so one ML costs 24 points. I could do a pen and paper list with less effort, less frustration and less errors.

@TLotF: use the free desktop version and fix the file yourself. It is worth the work to be able to put together "pick up" or test lists on the fly.

I'm old school, I just write everything down. Apparently I am one of the only guys at my FLGS that still does.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with pen and paper.

Once you are used to the way a catalog is setup by the catalog maintainer (not Battlescribe), I am sure you will find Battlescribe to be a very useful program. Like other posters have said. It's free and you can edit the catalogue to your heart's content if you believe there is an error with it.

Yeah, the biggest issue with Battlescribe is different people make the catalogs, which means different people have different ways of doing it. A great example is as above, adding upgrades as a full squad member + upgrade. The Tyranid list I use does this, and it took me a few minutes to wrap my head around it. I never thought anyone would think of it this way.

Another option is to just grab the full PC version and make your own catalog. You can then build whatever you want into it - even build in a full stat summary for everything in your selected army. I really want to get around to doing it myself for Tyranids and even try doing it for Infinity, so people aren't bound to the Devil Team builder. Also I'm a list changing fanatic, and being able to do it on my phone at the shop would be great for Infinity.

I planned on adding all the Tyranid stuff to a catalog but my PC decided that it would rather start smoking than allow me to do that. Since I can't edit catalogs from my iPad...

Hi all,

I just wanted to get in touch with any of you currently hosting data file repositories.

The latest update with the improved Data Indexer on desktop and the "share data" functionality on mobile has been working towards an important goal: Helping new users get good, up to date data files with minimum fuss.

It's easily the biggest problem new users face, and I think it's prevented a lot of people using BattleScribe at all. It's also an issue for existing users who would like to see their data files kept up to date*.

To that end, I've posted on the Randomhit forum to try and start some discussion with file hosts on how best to expose their hard work to as many BattleScribe users as possible. Basically I think some kind of central index of data file repositories would be extremely useful.

I'm really interested in feedback from anyone who hosts data files - on Randomhit or elsewhere - about how I can best support them and how we can get your data files used by as many people as possible.

Your input is invaluable

(* That's not to say the authors of the files aren't keeping them up to date - in fact you do a fantastic job! It's just that updated files won't be accessible to users if they aren't in the repo they're using - often the main Randomhit one)

I posted on the Randomhit forum over here: http://catalogue.randomhit.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=207 or you can get hold of me via Facebook/Twitter/Google+ (links in signature). I'll keep an eye on here too.

An issue that's popped up for me recently has been with the randomhit full distribution Vampire Counts 8th edition list. On the mobile app, it won't see the Battle Standard Bearer options for hero Vampires and Wight Kings, but on the PC version, it sees them fine and all corresponding banners.

So I just got the app, has anyone found data files that have orks and imperial guard?

A fine software.
I got it tested just now.

Any one out there have a Dark Angels update? and how do I get the PC version if I have purchased the mobile version?

Just download the PC version, it is free.

SoloFalcon, DA update came out quite a few days ago. Check at randomhit site if you want to beta test.

Are any forgeworld lists available on Battlescribe?

Also just wanna say awesome app

After hearing about this app on Noobhammer, I can't get it to work! The big problem is about the blasted data files! The only thing it says. Is that you need to find them, but there isn't squat about what you are looking for or how to get it to load. Since the help is so minimal, I am not even sure if I am finding the right things. When I do find what appears to be a data file there isn't even any feedback on whether it is one or not.
I hate programs that aren't clear about even the most basic things needed to use them. A simple "generic" data file included with the install would have been very helpful as a start!

 Heavens Eagle wrote:
After hearing about this app on Noobhammer, I can't get it to work! The big problem is about the blasted data files! The only thing it says. Is that you need to find them, but there isn't squat about what you are looking for or how to get it to load. Since the help is so minimal, I am not even sure if I am finding the right things. When I do find what appears to be a data file there isn't even any feedback on whether it is one or not.
I hate programs that aren't clear about even the most basic things needed to use them. A simple "generic" data file included with the install would have been very helpful as a start!

while I empathize with you regarding the difficulty of being able to locate data files, keep in mind that this is not the programmer's fault. for copyright reasons, and to avoid the legal wrath of GW, the authors of battlescribe can't to link directly to data files that contain any GW content (e.g., point costs, unit rules, etc). if they did, GW would sue them out of existence in a heartbeat. that's why they have to be so vague about it. if you poke around on the battlescribe forums, someone will point you in the right direction. it sucks, but that's the reality :(

I just want to say how much I love the mobile app. Used it last weekend when I went to play a game. It makes everything so quick and easy.

I've used battlescribe regularly and i think its is amazing, all armies are there, including chaos dwarfs and work quickly and efficiently, only downside, most stats and special rules dont appear in the html version :(

 varl wrote:

while I empathize with you regarding the difficulty of being able to locate data files, keep in mind that this is not the programmer's fault. for copyright reasons, and to avoid the legal wrath of GW, the authors of battlescribe can't to link directly to data files that contain any GW content (e.g., point costs, unit rules, etc). if they did, GW would sue them out of existence in a heartbeat. that's why they have to be so vague about it. if you poke around on the battlescribe forums, someone will point you in the right direction. it sucks, but that's the reality :(

You must not have really read my post. I said a "GENERIC" file. One that does not apply to any game (or maybe to a fictional one) but "SOMETHING" that would at least give a file that would give a basis for what I would be looking for on a download or whatever. As far as "finding" some data files I think I found some, but nothing would load and since I didn't really have a clue what I was looking for and had no info and the feedback I was getting from the app was minimal and wouldn't stay visible long enough to read, I quit wasting time and dumped the app.

That's OK though. As I have only been messing with GW stuff for about a year and a half, and since their model pricing has become even more ridiculous than it was previously, I am really considering dumping the load of unbuilt kits I have and walking away from the insanity.

 Heavens Eagle wrote:
After hearing about this app on Noobhammer, I can't get it to work! The big problem is about the blasted data files! The only thing it says. Is that you need to find them, but there isn't squat about what you are looking for or how to get it to load. Since the help is so minimal, I am not even sure if I am finding the right things. When I do find what appears to be a data file there isn't even any feedback on whether it is one or not.
I hate programs that aren't clear about even the most basic things needed to use them. A simple "generic" data file included with the install would have been very helpful as a start!

Google Battlescribe Data Files and it's the first result.

 Blacksails wrote:
I've never seen it used, but as long as the final list result looks nothing like the horrid abomination that armybuilder uses, then it should be fine.

Personally though, I'm a fine of good old calculator and a nice word document laid out nicely. My lists are clean, clear, and easily understood. Most of these programs are unnecessarily confusing and hard to read when the person building the list could just as easily do some basic math and write out an easily understood list.

I have to agree with this. While I am not incredibly experienced on the table, I have found that it really helps my build when I know where every point is going. That way nothing is wasted. I bet this program would be great for quickly trying out different lists though.

Just to say to Dakka, Im currently working on creating catalogues for the fan-made "Warhammer Armies Project" books (Linky) which may interest some people, and also want to throw out that if anyone has any issues or errors with any of their lists/data with BScribe, give me a shout and Il be happy to take a look at it for you...

JP

 SickSix wrote:
I just want to say how much I love the mobile app. Used it last weekend when I went to play a game. It makes everything so quick and easy.

Yeah, the mobile app is pretty awesome.

The PC version, not so much. Works fine, saves fine (or appears to) and then when I try to re-open a saved list, it only has part of the file.

@Insaniak: I've only had that happen when building lists with allied detachments and there is a thread on the BS forums that explains a workaround that can correct it until the author gets the new version released.

New PC version of Battlescribe is up now with dice tools similar to the mobile one. Also similar to Android app, now has a paid "Pro" version (currently £ 0.99) and a free ad-supported version.

Looks like he did fix the error with loading rosters with multiple forces and also added the ability to add/remove forces AFTER creating a roster.

Can only purchase the license with Google Wallet though? Any chance of adding PayPal to that Jon?

Downloaded and tried it out just now after seeing this thread.

Noticed a few errors with the Death Korps Siege Regiment list as alot of the stuff either have the incorrect points listed or none at all.

As previously mentioned in this thread, the author of BS doesn't (and can't for legal reasons) create or maintain the catalogs. They are created/updated by individual BS users and depending on where your particular catalog came from there may be a forum where you can address errors/omissions in those.

Also, using the included catalog editor, you can go in and make changes yourself.

 Verd_Warr wrote:
As previously mentioned in this thread, the author of BS doesn't (and can't for legal reasons) create or maintain the catalogs. They are created/updated by individual BS users and depending on where your particular catalog came from there may be a forum where you can address errors/omissions in those.

Also, using the included catalog editor, you can go in and make changes yourself.

I've found the catalog editor and made corrections.

Only (minor) drawback I've found with BS.

Good stuff.
If you send the corrections to the list's writer, it's less of a drawback for the next person.