Hey guys, just needing a bit of help with something.

So my girls finally figured out after 2 months of us dating that I play 40k, now she's asking me to show her how to play and introduce her to the game.
Has anyone dealt with this sort of thing before and got any advice they can give us?
Any helps appreciated, cheers guys.

That fact she approached you is promising.

Try Kill team without any of the specializations to show her the basic concepts without overloading her with info.

If she told you she wants to play, then don't make a big deal about it. Make up two 500 point lists and have at it.

Allright cheers guys, I'll give it a go. thanks

See if they have any miniature Channing Tatum heads and put them on all your space marines. That may help more than you could imagine.

then marry her...

Pretty much put together two very small "armies" of 500 points or less. Ideally let her play marines, with an HQ and one or two infantry units, versus a similarly selected force of orks or guard, something marines can hopefully beat up on. Maybe put an objective in the middle so she gets that concept too, but I wouldn't worry about it. Mostly you're walking her through the turn sequence and some very basic target priority-type decisions, describing what's going on on both sides of the table, without getting bogged down with too many special rules or the details of the To Hit chart, etc. Especially on your side of the table - say you're playing guard, don't even bother issuing orders. Better to handicap yourself slightly and avoid overwhelming her with unnecessary info.

It's the same way I've introduced plenty of people, friends and girlfriends alike. Just remember you're basically speaking a foreign language when you're talking game mechanics to someone who's never played, so you can go light on the technical details and describe things a little more as a narrative. Be "cinematic" even (damn you GW).

I speak from experience here... my ex-gf was interested in both Fantasy and 40K, so I had the opportunity to try to woo her over to the dark side of expensive geek hobbies...

If you are going to teach her the rules, keep the points low and let her play Space Marines. Even if you think she won't like SMs, or if you want to play them yourself, let her play them. You're just teaching her, not making her commit to an army, and @ 500 points SM have a lot of survivability compared to other armies. This is important, because you NEVER want to table someone who is just starting out and only learning. SM also don't have a lot of special rules (ATSKNF being about it) for her to learn. Just let her get a feel for how the game plays, then let her ask questions about the different armies.

Don't try to force Sisters onto her. I know it will be hard, but you have to resist. If she seems interested in playing Sisters, then let her. But don't make the rookie mistake of talking up the "girl" army, thinking that she will automatically want to play them. Best Ork player I ever met was a woman.

Being able to spell simple words would help. As girls don't like associating with foolish people. So her 'frieking out' is not going to help the situation.

That being said, it takes a certain kind of girl to get into gaming. They are terribly rare, and they don't usually last long in the hobby.

Allright guys thanks for all the help. I'll sort out a small game with Marines and IG. Cheers for the help.

Oh and Faenyin, that was a typo, my mistake.

I second the kill team idea as well. That removes the need to worry about things like coherency and mixed saves, etc and seems a lot more intuitive to a new player.

Ask what her interest is in the game.

My wife liked painting some of the models.

Eldar had an esthetic she liked as well.

Find every way possible to play fast too... later she started saying it was like watching paint dry so I did what I could to streamline.

She may also be wanting more time with you so trying to get into your hobbies... that may pass.

Good luck!

Definately second the kill team approach. See if you can come up with an engaging scenario that isn't just kill them all.

Well at the moment she's been more interested in the painting side, but now she wants to try the gaming side too. She hasn't seen many other armies apart from IG and SM so far, so I'm going to show her the other sorts of things available too and let her get used to the rules before picking an army.

There are always "Hello Kitty conversions".
https://www.google.com/search?q=hello+kitty+space+marines&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=bmfMUr3hOqmR2QWSoYCYBQ&ved=0CCoQsAQ&biw=1218&bih=917
Mind you, even some female friends found this abhorrent.

 Talizvar wrote:
There are always "Hello Kitty conversions".
https://www.google.com/search?q=hello+kitty+space+marines&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=bmfMUr3hOqmR2QWSoYCYBQ&ved=0CCoQsAQ&biw=1218&bih=917
Mind you, even some female friends found this abhorrent.

Thankfully she's not that sort of girl

You can't go wrong with smurfs (from this battle report.)




Break her in slowly and let her win a few games. Then show her all the different armies in the BRB and see which one catches her fancy aesthetically. Then work from there.

Break the game into simple parts.

Drop the idea of force org, list building, warlords, objectives, night fight, reserves, vehicles, and special weapons. Treat it like a souped up board game.

Play mirrored armies. This is important as knowing what your enemy can do is critical for strategy. (I use 10 tactical marines for each player)

Focus on the phases of the game.

Move / shoot / assault / hand to hand

Make a basic chart of the phase order.

Explain how to "hit and wound" with shooting and hand to hand. Sometimes a simple goal of "roll a 4 and you hit me" is enough. Sometimes people will want to understand the system , if this is the case , go into it, but otherwise giving a "roll goal" is usually good enough.

Make a chart with the models armor save and shooting range on it and place a corrisponding model next to the appropriate rules.

I have used this method to intro a few people into 40k. And the simpler and quicker it is, the more people seem to like it.

If they like the game enough we will play another game and add the idea of combat squad and heavy weapons.

After that, they should know if they like the game or not.

I play on a 4'x4' board during these tutorial games. I also try and make the terrain look as cool as possible. This really gets noobs into the game!

Let us know how it goes!

With her approaching first, that's a plus!

My wife was exposed to 40k early on. As a GF prior to marriage, she was exposed to my 40k stuff because it was littered all over my apartment. Of course, for the first time seeing small tiny weird looking stuff, she had to ask....and so began the explanation / showcase of miniatures.

Since then, I've corrupted her into a gamer...she's mostly an online PC gamer....wayyy more than I am (kinda scary sometimes). She is quite familiar with 40k due to DoW, etc.

If you're lucky, she'll enjoy building armies and then fielding them in battle.

I echo the sentiment about starting small. Being able to treat her like she's an absolute newbie, as opposed to a veteran player, is the key. Small, basic forces built to be a tutorial to the basics of the game is the best way, and then build upon that if she shows interest.

Luckily my wife has been exposed to my gaming since we first met almost 9 years ago, as so is an old hat at having it around. Hell, I just spent the last few days in this snowstorm playing Kingdoms of Amalur on the 360 for an average of 6-7 hours a day.

But even now, I have to remember that she doesn't have the exposure to the minutia of the games like 40K that I have, so we play with forces that don't require that.

When I taught my last GF, I started simple as well, basic movement and shooting. Then introduced assault.

Let her get that down a few very small games, then introduced vehicles.

I let her try both marines, and guard, then after a while introduced her to a lot of other races.

Never mix girls and gaming, it never ends well

 Asmodai Asmodean wrote:
Never mix girls and gaming, it never ends well

Because we kick your sorry emasculated behinds every time?

I don't know if I should laugh or be insulted! All it took for me was for my boyfriend to show me Tyranids. That was..ten years ago now and BAM, 40k.

How to get the girlfriend into 40k without freaking her out?

1.) Put on some Barry White.

2.) Invite her over.

3.) Answer the door like this.

I'd also suggest introducing her to a variety of systems. 40k isn't particularly friendly to new players, thanks to the massive cost and convoluted ruleset. If she likes it enough to get invested, good for her, but there are plenty of games that might be more interesting and affordable to her, such as Infinity or Malifaux. Additionally, she might prefer more intimate systems, like RPGs, so it might be worth your while to introduce her to that as well. It could offer a great chance for discovery not only for her, but also for yourself.

On the idea of teaching her the game itself, do it oldschool and bring in a friend to help. Ideally the best way to learn a game is against an opponent that is NOT teaching you. I just helped a friend teach his girlfriend how to play. It was basically their army vs. me, and we kept the points total low (750 game). Hopefully the friend isn't a dick and bringing along really dumb stuff like hell turkeys.

It also makes it a more social event, and if she gets bored, hey, it's a party anyway.

Secondly, I would be clear the game is not even all that important. If she doesn't like the game, maybe she'll still really enjoy the hobby aspect. If you've got any "How to Paint" books or DVDs around, have her watch it and get her some starter minis to fiddle with! I still drop $50~ bucks a month on minis and I don't even play the tabletop game anymore because I don't like it. The owner of our little hobby shop is a 65 year old woman who got interested in hobbying seeing all us nerds get into it, and bought and painted the entire Lord of the Rings starter box. Turns out she's super, super talented at it naturally which is a pretty cool thing to discover you're good at the ripe young age of 65.

If you have a GW nearby, take her in for one of those "trial games" that they do with the Dark Vengeance box set. Show her all the armies, and let her pick. I thought my wife would like the Eldar, but she went for Necrons.

Get her to play a better game that has balance rule something like blood bowl. There is like 21 very different teams they all have a different way of playing. Plus you don't need 17,000 dice, a bucket & an hour of your life only to fail to kill any Pallys

 Farseer Faenyin wrote:
Being able to spell simple words would help. As girls don't like associating with foolish people. So her 'frieking out' is not going to help the situation.

You must not associate with women very often.

build her a 1500 pts mandrake "footdar" deldar list to play with and then get out your 3 riptide tau battle suit list and stop all over the army. she will be so impressed with your display of money, power and manliness that she will instantly wish to marry you.

seriously though, if you already have it, the 40K starter sets has some pretty fun scenarios that you can play out.

the other option is to build 2 500pts armies that are equal in power and can easily display moving, shooting and assaulting then maybe bump it up to 750 pts to show off tanks and psychic powers

 Ouze wrote:

How to get the girlfriend into 40k without freaking her out?

1.) Put on some Barry White.

2.) Invite her over.

3.) Answer the door like this.

I think this guy might be more freaky. He's got a big.....gun.


Warmaster Jy2.

Each woman has a different approach on the game. Mine after some years we are together likes tha aesthetic of the miniatures, enjoys them on their cases and set on the furnitures. She like the painting part too. She finds the game/playing part extremely complex and boring (as most women find anything that has to do with board games ). So if she asked to see tha game take the step forward and do as the other dakkites above said. I agree that a game of kill team will be more easy for her. Don't forget, women even if they are excited with something, want less complex things to entertain them. Avoid the complexity of main game rules.

It is kinda hilarious actually, when I met my sorta-BF, I was the first to mention 40K.

Not all of us need to be introduced!

Terrific advice above, but also adhere to the red shirt salesman approach and make a fun close game that she ultimately wins... everyone is stoked to play a game they win. Obviously don't continue to sandbag but give her that glorious fanfare of a grim battle won.

She's just a person like anybody else. How would you introduce anyone to the game? A small intro scenario with two small prebuilt forces is the best way to go about it. Escalate from there.

 Furyou Miko wrote:

 Asmodai Asmodean wrote:
Never mix girls and gaming, it never ends well

Because we kick your sorry emasculated behinds every time?

be fair - you fine ladies only win 95% of the time - the rest are draws

But on topic, throw together a couple of balanced 500 point lists and go at it - that always seems to be a good way to start, IMHO

I did much what has been recommended here; two 500 point forces, I gave her Marines and I played a basical guard platoon, a commissar and a customized, but un-upgraded Veteran squad.

I tried to show off a range of models without introducing overly complicated elements of the rules right away (I learned the game by being thrown into a 2k battle of Guard against Sisters full of a billion special rules, not the best approach).

On account of my horrible dice luck, I didn't try to throw the game (still lost, but c'est la vie), and focused on the core elements of the game; no psykers, no real special rules, just a Commissar to highlight an example of some of the wacky unique stuff in the game.

She enjoyed herself, and then I showed her a range of different armies, gave her a breakdown of their background and playstyle (she loves wolves, so despite my loathing of them, she wants to play Space Wolves, with wolf-mode engaged full throttle). Ultimately, however, limited time and the buy in cost has meant nothing has happened yet, but it did open her up the idea of miniatures games in general, and we now play X-Wing pretty regularly (I also get trounced there, but perhaps one day the rebel scum will rue the day they crossed me).

Because we kick your sorry emasculated behinds every time?

Maybe...........

be fair - you fine ladies only win 95% of the time - the rest are draws

Much more accurate.

 MajorStoffer wrote:
I did much what has been recommended here; two 500 point forces, I gave her Marines and I played a basical guard platoon, a commissar and a customized, but un-upgraded Veteran squad.

I tried to show off a range of models without introducing overly complicated elements of the rules right away (I learned the game by being thrown into a 2k battle of Guard against Sisters full of a billion special rules, not the best approach).

On account of my horrible dice luck, I didn't try to throw the game (still lost, but c'est la vie), and focused on the core elements of the game; no psykers, no real special rules, just a Commissar to highlight an example of some of the wacky unique stuff in the game.

She enjoyed herself, and then I showed her a range of different armies, gave her a breakdown of their background and playstyle (she loves wolves, so despite my loathing of them, she wants to play Space Wolves, with wolf-mode engaged full throttle). Ultimately, however, limited time and the buy in cost has meant nothing has happened yet, but it did open her up the idea of miniatures games in general, and we now play X-Wing pretty regularly (I also get trounced there, but perhaps one day the rebel scum will rue the day they crossed me).

Amusingly, while my partner also loves wolves, she loathes the Space Wolf armies because the thunderwolf models' fur looks more like skin after little worms have dug their way out of it. Especially on Canis - apparently, the Fenrisian Wolves are a bit better on that front.

 j31c3n wrote:
If you have a GW nearby, take her in for one of those "trial games" that they do with the Dark Vengeance box set. Show her all the armies, and let her pick. I thought my wife would like the Eldar, but she went for Necrons.

No offence man, but that is the last thing I would do. I would much rather buy the minis from online sources.

If she continues to show interest after a few little mock battles, I would recommend showing her the entire range of models. My daughter was torn between Eldar/Dark Eldar. Then I proceeded to go over the fluff for both armies. The decision was then easier for her to make.... Eldar.

Never take your girlfriend into gw if she's not into the hobby I hate being in there and over crowed/pressured to buy miniatures at the best of times and its worse being a woman if she has an interest explain it to her as you would anyone else if you dumb it down she'll get angry. If you want to get here in and she's not too fussed tell her its something big to you and you'd like it if she tried. You don't have to purposely lose chances are if you taught it to her right she'll enjoy it just because she doing it will you.

Would be funny if she finds out she likes tyranids lol. I've heard a lot about how us girls seem to love tyranids, I don't know why but yeah they were the first army I saw at 13 and was sold straight away XD
But yeah if she was interested to begin with, there's no worries at all, so just have fun

Take her to Warhammer world for the day!

Let her see the spectacal of the mini's in the cases and the dioramas, ask her which ones she likes best.
Then have a nice small point game (take your time) on some top class scenary, keep the units simple but distinct. Have a unit of snipers, a unit of bikes, a tri-las predator, that kind of thing. It means she will quickly learn the basic game strategy and what is good at killing what. For your own list make sure she has a hard counter for everything you bring, and dont try anything devious in your first game.
Play simply but deliberately.

Afterwards go and get a meal at bugmans, take photos near the statues, and basically share a fun day with her.

She will definately want to play again.

 Brother SRM wrote:
She's just a person like anybody else. How would you introduce anyone to the game? A small intro scenario with two small prebuilt forces is the best way to go about it. Escalate from there.

This. Stop thinking about it as "how to make a girl like 40k" and start thinking about how to introduce the game to someone who doesn't have any previous experience with gaming hobbies. Keep the game small and simple: a couple basic infantry squads, no vehicles/special characters with tons of rules/etc. Tactical marines vs. orks is perfect since it lets you show the turn sequence and basic gameplay, demonstrates the idea of the different sides being truly distinct armies (unlike many board games, where it's just different color tokens), but doesn't introduce many special rules (and I suggest just ignoring morale/ATSKNF/etc). And if the person you're teaching isn't interested don't pressure them to keep playing, it's a niche hobby and not many people are interested, regardless of their gender.


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Naminé wrote:
Have a unit of snipers, a unit of bikes, a tri-las predator, that kind of thing.

I strongly disagree with this. 40k's rules are overwhelmingly complex if you don't have any previous background in similar games to help you understand the basic concepts. It's hard enough to understand the basic core mechanics without having to try to remember that bikes move extra distance, re-roll charge distances, and get to shoot as if stationary, while vehicles have completely different movement and defense rules. And that quickly gets frustrating, which means that the person you're teaching is going to have a hard time getting anything out of the lesson, even the basics, because they don't know which things are most important in the flood of new information. And that's if your lucky, more likely they're just going to feel overwhelmed and not have much fun, and they aren't going to have much desire to repeat the experience.

Bugmans isn't that good, Namine. :p It's just standard pub grub. It's certainly not going to sell the hobby to anyone.

 Peregrine wrote:
I strongly disagree with this. 40k's rules are overwhelmingly complex if you don't have any previous background in similar games to help you understand the basic concepts.

I can agree with that. Maybe not "overwhelmingly" so, but I found some of it fairly complex at first when I played some practice games at GW. Speaking of practice lessons, I found the GW way of doing it to be pretty helpful. Start with a few small games involving a HQ and a troop squad, then work up from there, introducing vehicles and more units.

 BrotherHaraldus wrote:
It is kinda hilarious actually, when I met my sorta-BF, I was the first to mention 40K.

Not all of us need to be introduced!

Huh, assumed you were male. Guess it was the "brother" in your name.

Kill team is very promising, you would want the game to be shorter and easier. rules are easier and would introduce 40k with enough to show her how it works, but not be overwhelming and possibly frustrating for a first time player.

 Troike wrote:

 Peregrine wrote:
I strongly disagree with this. 40k's rules are overwhelmingly complex if you don't have any previous background in similar games to help you understand the basic concepts.

I can agree with that. Maybe not "overwhelmingly" so, but I found some of it fairly complex at first when I played some practice games at GW. Speaking of practice lessons, I found the GW way of doing it to be pretty helpful. Start with a few small games involving a HQ and a troop squad, then work up from there, introducing vehicles and more units.

 BrotherHaraldus wrote:
It is kinda hilarious actually, when I met my sorta-BF, I was the first to mention 40K.

Not all of us need to be introduced!

Huh, assumed you were male. Guess it was the "brother" in your name.

Brother Haralus is a girl, Sister Sydney is a boy... expectation management perhaps?

 Furyou Miko wrote:
Bugmans isn't that good, Namine. :p It's just standard pub grub. It's certainly not going to sell the hobby to anyone.

it's in a better state than the game is in right now that's for sure

 Brother SRM wrote:
She's just a person like anybody else. How would you introduce anyone to the game? A small intro scenario with two small prebuilt forces is the best way to go about it. Escalate from there.

Also agree with this.

And I would never take any adult, male or female, to a GW store to learn the game early on in their interest. Maybe that's just the stores around me, but they feel targeted to much younger gamers, and the massive overenthusiastic approach can really put off an older newcomer, particularly if they haven't grown up with (for lack of a better term) 'geekier' hobbies.

 Troike wrote:

 Peregrine wrote:
I strongly disagree with this. 40k's rules are overwhelmingly complex if you don't have any previous background in similar games to help you understand the basic concepts.

I can agree with that. Maybe not "overwhelmingly" so, but I found some of it fairly complex at first when I played some practice games at GW. Speaking of practice lessons, I found the GW way of doing it to be pretty helpful. Start with a few small games involving a HQ and a troop squad, then work up from there, introducing vehicles and more units.

 BrotherHaraldus wrote:
It is kinda hilarious actually, when I met my sorta-BF, I was the first to mention 40K.

Not all of us need to be introduced!

Huh, assumed you were male. Guess it was the "brother" in your name.

The 'Brother' thing is due to the fact that I have a Space Marine character with that name, and 'Brother' is a common word to just slap in front of a name to get a SM name.

I don't see why the fact she's a girl has such a massive part of this? Surely it would be exactly the same as just introducing a male friend to the hobby?

 Furyou Miko wrote:
expectation management perhaps?

That'd be the best policy, given how diverse the Internet's users are. Though I think that people automatically make little assumptions like that, to some degree. A few people were mistaken about my gender too on a few occasions (including you one time, IIRC), possibly due to my avatar being of a female.

 Ayemee wrote:
I don't see why the fact she's a girl has such a massive part of this? Surely it would be exactly the same as just introducing a male friend to the hobby?

That, too, is very true.

It's a person like anyone else.

 Ayemee wrote:
I don't see why the fact she's a girl has such a massive part of this? Surely it would be exactly the same as just introducing a male friend to the hobby?

In my experience girls and guys are drastically different when it comes to the hobby. Hugely different

 Swastakowey wrote:
In my experience girls and guys are drastically different when it comes to the hobby. Hugely different

In my experience people are drastically different when it comes to the hobby. Hugely different.

 Peregrine wrote:

 Swastakowey wrote:
In my experience girls and guys are drastically different when it comes to the hobby. Hugely different

In my experience people are drastically different when it comes to the hobby. Hugely different.

You are both right. The genders have psychological differences, that is proven, but the individual differences are what I notice the most.

 Peregrine wrote:

 Swastakowey wrote:
In my experience girls and guys are drastically different when it comes to the hobby. Hugely different

In my experience people are drastically different when it comes to the hobby. Hugely different.

There are noticeable trends between the 2 genders. Trends arent 100% true.

 BrotherHaraldus wrote:

 Peregrine wrote:

 Swastakowey wrote:
In my experience girls and guys are drastically different when it comes to the hobby. Hugely different

In my experience people are drastically different when it comes to the hobby. Hugely different.

You are both right. The genders have psychological differences, that is proven, but the individual differences are what I notice the most.

I totally agree. Two males could be just as different when it comes to the hobby as a male and a female. Fair enough, the hobby is very much male dominated, however I don't really see that as a problem. It all just depends what you're into. I'd like to think that being female doesn't mean I get treated any differently.

If I do get treated differently, it's not something I have noticed.

Maybe Chaos Space Marines is not a very 'girly' choice of army, and I suppose I do not appear particularly feminine in my manner etc., both on the forums and when I actually interact with others in the hobby IRL.

 BrotherHaraldus wrote:
If I do get treated differently, it's not something I have noticed.

Maybe Chaos Space Marines is not a very 'girly' choice of army, and I suppose I do not appear particularly feminine in my manner etc., both on the forums and when I actually interact with others in the hobby IRL.

I haven't noticed it either, which is why I don't see the female thing as an issue. I also have Chaos space marines, which I agree, isn't very girly. I am fairly feminine IRL, but to be honest it works to my advantage a little. Takes them off guard when I tell them I'm seriously into the hobby. Always quite funny.

 Ayemee wrote:

 BrotherHaraldus wrote:
If I do get treated differently, it's not something I have noticed.

Maybe Chaos Space Marines is not a very 'girly' choice of army, and I suppose I do not appear particularly feminine in my manner etc., both on the forums and when I actually interact with others in the hobby IRL.

I haven't noticed it either, which is why I don't see the female thing as an issue. I also have Chaos space marines, which I agree, isn't very girly. I am fairly feminine IRL, but to be honest it works to my advantage a little. Takes them off guard when I tell them I'm seriously into the hobby. Always quite funny.

I agree, breaking the stereotype is fun.

This is how I got into it sounds like your GF might follow suit!!

When I just started going out with my BF and he's been playing Warhammer for about 20 years, we'd been going out for a couple of months before he introduced me to 40K.

Started out with a 500pt game and I was hooked straight away.

We went to GW and I choose my army - Wood Elves - picked up a battalian box and started building. Got a little bored and fancied my hand at painting so the BF gave me some orks to paint (after a little tutorial) saw how I was painting them and decided to then gave me his orks (he's a Chaos Space Marine) as I fell that in love with them (well they are sooo cute).

Since August last year I've added and now have a 1500pt army with a plan to get it up to 4000pt army in the next year (money permitting) I also have my original Wood Elves (unfortunatly in the state I left them partly built) & recently me and the BF went halves on the Blood Island box set so guess what I'm now collecting Skaven too.

Oh and my 8yr old son is now collecting Space Marine's so its battles galore in our house.

I think I may have to quit my job to have time for my hobby!!!! lol

One thing that I've been overwhelmed by as a new player is all the special rules and wargear for the armies. There is a lot of stuff to process. I think the kill team without specializations is the best format.

When I get into games I tend to not shut up about them, and my partner finds it both charming and obnoxious. If I ever want to play a game with her I have to be subtle...

Also! The smurfs/hello kitty armies are beyond pandering. If she is curious about the game, she is probably drawn to the ugliness and brutality of the models.

melkorthetonedeaf wrote:


Also! The smurfs/hello kitty armies are beyond pandering. If she is curious about the game, she is probably drawn to the ugliness and brutality of the models.

I protest. Chaos Space Marines are very sexy.

Just look at those spikes. Mmmmmm.

sexier than that one army that's just a bunch of Lady Gaga's.

 BrotherHaraldus wrote:

melkorthetonedeaf wrote:


Also! The smurfs/hello kitty armies are beyond pandering. If she is curious about the game, she is probably drawn to the ugliness and brutality of the models.

I protest. Chaos Space Marines are very sexy.

Just look at those spikes. Mmmmmm.

So, how did it go?

melkorthetonedeaf wrote:
sexier than that one army that's just a bunch of Lady Gaga's.

Actually they came before Lady Gaga's music career, so she's just a Battle-Sister inspired singer.

Also, the SoB are an army of Joan of Arcs.

 Troike wrote:

melkorthetonedeaf wrote:
sexier than that one army that's just a bunch of Lady Gaga's.

Actually they came before Lady Gaga's music career, so she's just a Battle-Sister inspired singer.

Also, the SoB are an army of Joan of Arcs.

I'm going to assume the blokes who sculpted the SOB never read anything about Joan of Arc's appearance....

Tell her she can have the D(raigo) :zd

 mad_eddy_13 wrote:

 Troike wrote:

melkorthetonedeaf wrote:
sexier than that one army that's just a bunch of Lady Gaga's.

Actually they came before Lady Gaga's music career, so she's just a Battle-Sister inspired singer.

Also, the SoB are an army of Joan of Arcs.

I'm going to assume the blokes who sculpted the SOB never read anything about Joan of Arc's appearance....

Ah but you have to remember that, according to GW, everything in 40K is completely original with no inspiration drawn from any outside source!

 A Town Called Malus wrote:

 mad_eddy_13 wrote:

 Troike wrote:

melkorthetonedeaf wrote:
sexier than that one army that's just a bunch of Lady Gaga's.

Actually they came before Lady Gaga's music career, so she's just a Battle-Sister inspired singer.

Also, the SoB are an army of Joan of Arcs.

I'm going to assume the blokes who sculpted the SOB never read anything about Joan of Arc's appearance....

Ah but you have to remember that, according to GW, everything in 40K is completely original with no inspiration drawn from any outside source!

In the words of innumerable swordsmen, touche

The how to play guide from DV is very helpful for basic player. IF one of your friends has one you could ask to borrow and use it to introduce her to the game.

 mad_eddy_13 wrote:
I'm going to assume the blokes who sculpted the SOB never read anything about Joan of Arc's appearance....

I didn't say that they were closely based on her appearance, just meant that if they're influenced by her.

 Troike wrote:

 mad_eddy_13 wrote:
I'm going to assume the blokes who sculpted the SOB never read anything about Joan of Arc's appearance....

I didn't say that they were closely based on her appearance, just meant that if they're influenced by her.

There is something to be said for virginal warriors... From Artemis to Joan of Arc, they never fail to deliver a good dose of whupass

 kronk wrote:
So, how did it go?

Pretty good, we had a couple of small 500pts games today. Just a small platoon of guard against a tac squad. She really got into it, after the third game she started asking if there were more armies to use cause she wasnt so keen on playing marines. So I ended up on the computer showing her the different races, a few pictures from the gallery on here to show here the painting side of it.
After about an hour of searching and reading up on some of the basic fluff for most of the races she settled on Tau.

So cheers for all the help guys. Thanks


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Naminé wrote:
Take her to Warhammer world for the day!

Let her see the spectacal of the mini's in the cases and the dioramas, ask her which ones she likes best.
Then have a nice small point game (take your time) on some top class scenary, keep the units simple but distinct. Have a unit of snipers, a unit of bikes, a tri-las predator, that kind of thing. It means she will quickly learn the basic game strategy and what is good at killing what. For your own list make sure she has a hard counter for everything you bring, and dont try anything devious in your first game.
Play simply but deliberately.

Afterwards go and get a meal at bugmans, take photos near the statues, and basically share a fun day with her.

She will definately want to play again.

Not the best of plans, though I can see why its a better plan as the staff down there arent quite as over enthusiastic as they are in some GW store, but I do live in Carlisle, can't drive and so it'd be quite expensive for a day out which could be either brilliant, or could be awful for both of us if she didn't like it. So, no..

And Ayemee, its not the fact that she's a girl that bothered me, because as you say, she is of course a person. It was more I didnt want to scare her off and make her think " omg total fething nerdfest"

 BrotherHaraldus wrote:
If I do get treated differently, it's not something I have noticed.

Maybe Chaos Space Marines is not a very 'girly' choice of army, and I suppose I do not appear particularly feminine in my manner etc., both on the forums and when I actually interact with others in the hobby IRL.

And to further throw a wrench into the logic, I'm male and intend to make my first army as Night Lords with Slaanesh bits thrown in, with the Dark Prince never really viewed as masculine thanks to all the purples and pinks thrown in. And I hate the mainstream Space Marines (Ultramarines and near all of their successors save the Griffons). I do look forward to any time I have vibrantly colored Noise Marines and somebody pops a joke on how they look girly. Then I explain their fluff and laugh as they probably get squicked.

All in all, W40K's mash of factions are so incredibly customizable and varied to such a ridiculous degree I wouldn't be surprised if anyone of either gender picked a faction some would view as 'weird' for stereotypes simply for W40K being near infinite in customization options with so, so many flavors of fluff to choose from.
(Although I have noticed that women seem to like Tyranids a whole lot.)

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OHGODSHEWENTFORTHETAUWHATHAVEYOUDONE?!

Fufufu.

You should have expected that. Chicks dig giant robots.

 Wyzilla wrote:

 BrotherHaraldus wrote:
If I do get treated differently, it's not something I have noticed.

Maybe Chaos Space Marines is not a very 'girly' choice of army, and I suppose I do not appear particularly feminine in my manner etc., both on the forums and when I actually interact with others in the hobby IRL.

And to further throw a wrench into the logic, I'm male and intend to make my first army as Night Lords with Slaanesh bits thrown in, with the Dark Prince never really viewed as masculine thanks to all the purples and pinks thrown in. And I hate the mainstream Space Marines (Ultramarines and near all of their successors save the Griffons). I do look forward to any time I have vibrantly colored Noise Marines and somebody pops a joke on how they look girly. Then I explain their fluff and laugh as they probably get squicked.

All in all, W40K's mash of factions are so incredibly customizable and varied to such a ridiculous degree I wouldn't be surprised if anyone of either gender picked a faction some would view as 'weird' for stereotypes simply for W40K being near infinite in customization options with so, so many flavors of fluff to choose from.
(Although I have noticed that women seem to like Tyranids a whole lot.)

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OHGODSHEWENTFORTHETAUWHATHAVEYOUDONE?!

Tyranids are lovely because they are so gribbly, but in my little gaming group we have a 'nid player already (And the new bad-dex won't shake his faith in his gribblies, I'm sure) and I am very happy with my spiky boys!

Also TAU. WAI?

Who needs giant robots when you have ludicrously overpowered spiky superhumans (That suck outside of the fluff, but that is acceptable losses!) that are just so over the top so you can't help but love them? And they have giant robots too!

When I imagine a Chaos Marine shooting a Guardsman and half the Guardsman evaporates from the explosive shot, I just want to hug the big guy.

HUG HIM.

<3 <3 <3 <3

If you tried to make her play and she dont like the hobby you have two options:

1- Leave her and continue playing.
2- Leave the hobby and go with her.

 Capt. Camping wrote:
If you tried to make her play and she dont like the hobby you have two options:

1- Leave her and continue playing.
2- Leave the hobby and go with her.

Or
3- continue playing and stay with her.

Which is the option any sensible person would take. Just because you don't share a hobby with your significant other doesn't mean you have to either quit it or leave them. That's just nonsense. You can do stuff without your significant other, you know?

My girlfriend doesn't really get the whole tabletop wargaming thing. She thinks it's expensive (she's right on that count) and just doesn't enjoy it. So I don't make her play. I'm not about to leave her or my hobby because of that.

 sierra 1247 wrote:
Allright guys thanks for all the help. I'll sort out a small game with Marines and IG. Cheers for the help.

Oh and Faenyin, that was a typo, my mistake.

I just realized I forgot the 'funny face' at the end of my comment to make it a joke. Wow, I must have sounded like a female hygene product...

 Furyou Miko wrote:
Fufufu.

You should have expected that. Chicks dig giant robots.

Not the few i usually hang out with - they like swords and old school rifles

And this thread reminds me why I love the hobby so much. It attracts all the interesting people (by that I mean awesome).

Also I'm a guy and I've loved Tau ever since they came out. Something about all the big guns...no I'm not compensating for something

I got my girlfriend into D&D (and other tabletop RPGs) years back after we had talked about it a bit and we started our local group back up.

We looked at wargame stuff at one of our FLGS looking at used books and I told her I liked the setting but wasn't sure about the game and that I hate painting. She knew about my Gundam model kits of course.

She ended up getting me AOBR, a rulebook and some starter painting materials.

I'm now 3 years in, many dollars lighter from models and painting supplie, and still get rofl-stomped by her orks all the time. We turned a bedroom in our new house into a hobby room so I could paint while she processes fiber as a side business. She digs it, and taught me a lot about painting.

People are people. Glad it's working out, having a common interest. Nurture it and let it grow organically.

PS: I totally plan on building a Chaos Daemon Prinny army. If it comes to fruition, she may smother me with a pillow.

Yeah, its great that she's getting into it, but as a guard player.. yeah im gonna be frakked in a lot of games


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And Faenyin, don't worry about it we all make mistakes.

 Ayemee wrote:

 BrotherHaraldus wrote:

melkorthetonedeaf wrote:


Also! The smurfs/hello kitty armies are beyond pandering. If she is curious about the game, she is probably drawn to the ugliness and brutality of the models.

I protest. Chaos Space Marines are very sexy.

Just look at those spikes. Mmmmmm.

Mmmmm and the twisting wretched forms of old pink horrors tearing their mouth open to let two mini guys hop out that start bickering whilst the others giggle clapping their hands together as they oo and aaa at mutating fireworks.... and the nurglings wanting to hug you! And don't forget those adorable little gribblies the nids have eeeee! So who is sexier? CSM or DE?

But yeah, glad to hear! May your guardsman survive the vollies of fire still holding their flag.

 StarTrotter wrote:

 Ayemee wrote:

 BrotherHaraldus wrote:

melkorthetonedeaf wrote:


Also! The smurfs/hello kitty armies are beyond pandering. If she is curious about the game, she is probably drawn to the ugliness and brutality of the models.

I protest. Chaos Space Marines are very sexy.

Just look at those spikes. Mmmmmm.

Mmmmm and the twisting wretched forms of old pink horrors tearing their mouth open to let two mini guys hop out that start bickering whilst the others giggle clapping their hands together as they oo and aaa at mutating fireworks.... and the nurglings wanting to hug you! And don't forget those adorable little gribblies the nids have eeeee! So who is sexier? CSM or DE?

But yeah, glad to hear! May your guardsman survive the vollies of fire still holding their flag.

Chaos Marines or Dark Eldar?

Ehh... Incubi are hawt, sure, but they don't play in the same league as CSM.

The Chaos Boyz blow them out of the water.

 BrotherHaraldus wrote:

 StarTrotter wrote:

 Ayemee wrote:

 BrotherHaraldus wrote:

melkorthetonedeaf wrote:


Also! The smurfs/hello kitty armies are beyond pandering. If she is curious about the game, she is probably drawn to the ugliness and brutality of the models.

I protest. Chaos Space Marines are very sexy.

Just look at those spikes. Mmmmmm.

Mmmmm and the twisting wretched forms of old pink horrors tearing their mouth open to let two mini guys hop out that start bickering whilst the others giggle clapping their hands together as they oo and aaa at mutating fireworks.... and the nurglings wanting to hug you! And don't forget those adorable little gribblies the nids have eeeee! So who is sexier? CSM or DE?

But yeah, glad to hear! May your guardsman survive the vollies of fire still holding their flag.

Chaos Marines or Dark Eldar?

Ehh... Incubi are hawt, sure, but they don't play in the same league as CSM.

The Chaos Boyz blow them out of the water.

Oh my~
The real question comes down to how many spikes they have!

These people are excellent judges in appeal. I too enjoy putting wrought iron fences on my Rhinos. Keeps out stray flesh hounds.Very austere.

Haha when my girlfriend first saw my models, she honestly thought we went 'bang, bang' and moved them around willy nilly as though we were 6 year olds playing with little green army men.
She has been present during a few battles with my friends as if we battle around our place we have to use the living room (its a small apartment). She has asked about how it all works... but where to start when answering that question?!?
One of the first posters suggested a 500pt battle so you don't overload her, and thats what I will do if my gf shows any more interest. One tip though - when picking your armies... pick her a stronger force, either in points or in effective units.

Just for the record, I disagree with that last part: Don't coddle her just 'cause she's a molly unless you're really, really good at being subtle (here's a hint: you're not).

 jy2 wrote:
You can't go wrong with smurfs (from this battle report.)




Break her in slowly and let her win a few games. Then show her all the different armies in the BRB and see which one catches her fancy aesthetically. Then work from there.

BAhahahahahahahahahhaahahahhaahhahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahaHUEHUEHUEHUEHEHUEHUEhahahaha


- Seriously though, just have a game and she'll decide for herself whether or not she likes it - same as with any beginner, start with the basics before brining in too many special rules, small games like the in-store intro games would be ideal

 BlaxicanX wrote:

 Farseer Faenyin wrote:
Being able to spell simple words would help. As girls don't like associating with foolish people. So her 'frieking out' is not going to help the situation.

You must not associate with women very often.

LOL...

Make sure you let her win! Give her an army that is strong against yours!


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smee wrote:

 jy2 wrote:
You can't go wrong with smurfs (from this battle report.)




Break her in slowly and let her win a few games. Then show her all the different armies in the BRB and see which one catches her fancy aesthetically. Then work from there.

BAhahahahahahahahahhaahahahhaahhahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahaHUEHUEHUEHUEHEHUEHUEhahahaha


- Seriously though, just have a game and she'll decide for herself whether or not she likes it - same as with any beginner, start with the basics before brining in too many special rules, small games like the in-store intro games would be ideal

I lost it when i saw the dreadnought!

I think it's important to have different interests in a relationship. My wife has no interest in playing [although she is very supportive and buys me Forge World stuff every birthday/Christmas], and I like it that way tbh. Warhammer is my man time, and no matter how much you love someone everyone needs a break now and then. If she started wanting to play too I'd be a little disappointed, same as if I started going to her kickboxing classes.

 sierra 1247 wrote:
Hey guys, just needing a bit of help with something.

So my girls finally figured out after 2 months of us dating that I play 40k, now she's asking me to show her how to play and introduce her to the game.
Has anyone dealt with this sort of thing before and got any advice they can give us?
Any helps appreciated, cheers guys.

Make them play against each other, marry the winner.

^ HA if only

And tyrannosaurus, I still have my shooting as my man time, so It odesnt really matter in that department. But yeah I do get what your saying.