Like i say, what happened IN there, eclipsed my memory of the actual shop!...It was small though, had like one gaming table i think?

I have been with the lady 7 years now...that was in...2004..Yeah..I think so, closed by august 05!

AvatarForm wrote:I just read ALL 20 pages... this thread made my day. Thanks guy/gals!

I despise GW for what they are. Their staff are trained to respresent the 'entire' gaming world to children and newbies as being 99.9% GW... fair enough, they have a profit motive. But outright lies and forced sale of products upon these people generates negative images of the hobby as a whole.

I went into a GW to meet a friend I had not seen in a long time. From the moment I stepped in the door with my Battlefoam PACK, the manager was demanding to know what was inside and when I told him it was Warmachine he almost tried to position himself between myself going any further into the store. Then when my friend came over to greet me he took the same attitude to my mate, who is a regular GW fanboi.

Needless to say, the remainder of the afternoon I was chatting to my friend while he painted his minis (bought at full RRP* in the same store) and the manager tried to sell me crap from the shelves, as I had admitted that I had sold most of my armies because GW didnt do it for me anymore.

*AUS RRP is DOUBLE what you lucky basterds in the USA and Europe pay... at the very least.

I know the manager of this store - I have known him for only a matter of weeks but have been on a drinking binge with him and it doesn't get much more honest than that - and I feel that you have greatly misrepresented him. Sure, he recommended a gak beer IMO but I didn't have to buy a second one. GW staff are well within their rights to refuse service, and it should go without saying that you can't play non-GW games on their freely provided tables. The Tin Soldier is about two blocks away, and you can play anything there. You can buy GW boxed sets at a discounted price. There is no free painting table and the staff are helpful but not especially knowledgeable with regards to the GW hobby - they'll order anything for you though. Order from Maelstrom Games if you want dirt cheap, just bear in mind that the delivery takes ages.

Not expecting to encounter a retail pitch in a retail store is simply idiotic. It's not that they make commissions because they don't - if they don't make a profit they close. You can easily say you're not interested or JUST LOOKING THANKS! and they'll likely leave you alone. You probably just grunted and waved your hand, demostrating your lack or underdeveloped understanding of basic social skills. Then again if I was masochistic enough to work at a GW store I'd be sure to be as pushy as I could with a punk like you until you sodded off. But that's just me.
It's not just a place for you to 'hang out,' regardless of what your friend is doing. I've sold most of my armies too, and they know it.

I go there pretty often now (I've just moved to Sydney) and it took a fairly long time before the different staff members stopped asking me what I played and talking to me as though they knew everything. It's their job to be informative and to sell things. They're now aware that I know just as much as they do, and often educate them on the background of their hobby. It's nothing like the atmosphere of my old independent local store but it's a great place if you're a normal and friendly person who doesn't spit out ragewords like 'fanboi'.

I am with you in complaining about the current RRP of GW gear in Oz, but I make a point of buying at full RRP at my local store and always have. It's worth it because it keeps them going - but if GW doesn't do it for you any more then than that's your decision. Not their problem.

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Ahem. Rant over - the worst experience I've had at a GW or LGS was probably being matched up in a 2v2 with an eleven year old kid who had never played a game before in the later stages of a Fantasy campaign organised by one of the local club members. His dad came to pick him up an hour into the game. I didn't rage or anything but I had a pretty firm talk with the organiser about how crap his entire campaign had been - I love a challenge but I'm not always keen to teach a complete newb how to play when I'm there on my day off.

AvatarForm wrote:I just read ALL 20 pages... this thread made my day. Thanks guy/gals!

I despise GW for what they are. Their staff are trained to respresent the 'entire' gaming world to children and newbies as being 99.9% GW... fair enough, they have a profit motive. But outright lies and forced sale of products upon these people generates negative images of the hobby as a whole.

I went into a GW to meet a friend I had not seen in a long time. From the moment I stepped in the door with my Battlefoam PACK, the manager was demanding to know what was inside and when I told him it was Warmachine he almost tried to position himself between myself going any further into the store. Then when my friend came over to greet me he took the same attitude to my mate, who is a regular GW fanboi.

Needless to say, the remainder of the afternoon I was chatting to my friend while he painted his minis (bought at full RRP* in the same store) and the manager tried to sell me crap from the shelves, as I had admitted that I had sold most of my armies because GW didnt do it for me anymore.

*AUS RRP is DOUBLE what you lucky basterds in the USA and Europe pay... at the very least.

here here, i second that.

I've never had a bad experience in a GW, sure I've had the sales pitches and such but I've never been pressured into buying anything. My FLGS is another question, though in truth nothing worth complaining about. Long story short: Kids.

Over the summer holidays, the shop has pretty much been overrun by them, and they've been an all-round general annoyance, just being kids.

The worst thing one of them did was take one of my sausage rolls.

Thankfully, the schools are back in action now!

High_Marshal_Helbrecht wrote:
I just couldn't get over the nerve of the guy ya know?..What did he expect?

Her to spin round and look him in the eyes
"You sweaty mass of nerd meat you, the way you fondle my tits like two plastic stompa kits makes me hotter than a Salamander with Heavy Flamer...Kiss me you socially inept pustle of manliness!! BE MY CALGAR!"

Someone Sig this now!


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Arctik_Firangi wrote:

AvatarForm wrote:I just read ALL 20 pages... this thread made my day. Thanks guy/gals!

I despise GW for what they are. Their staff are trained to respresent the 'entire' gaming world to children and newbies as being 99.9% GW... fair enough, they have a profit motive. But outright lies and forced sale of products upon these people generates negative images of the hobby as a whole.

I went into a GW to meet a friend I had not seen in a long time. From the moment I stepped in the door with my Battlefoam PACK, the manager was demanding to know what was inside and when I told him it was Warmachine he almost tried to position himself between myself going any further into the store. Then when my friend came over to greet me he took the same attitude to my mate, who is a regular GW fanboi.

Needless to say, the remainder of the afternoon I was chatting to my friend while he painted his minis (bought at full RRP* in the same store) and the manager tried to sell me crap from the shelves, as I had admitted that I had sold most of my armies because GW didnt do it for me anymore.

*AUS RRP is DOUBLE what you lucky basterds in the USA and Europe pay... at the very least.

I know the manager of this store - I have known him for only a matter of weeks but have been on a drinking binge with him and it doesn't get much more honest than that - and I feel that you have greatly misrepresented him. Sure, he recommended a gak beer IMO but I didn't have to buy a second one. GW staff are well within their rights to refuse service, and it should go without saying that you can't play non-GW games on their freely provided tables. The Tin Soldier is about two blocks away, and you can play anything there. You can buy GW boxed sets at a discounted price. There is no free painting table and the staff are helpful but not especially knowledgeable with regards to the GW hobby - they'll order anything for you though. Order from Maelstrom Games if you want dirt cheap, just bear in mind that the delivery takes ages.

Not expecting to encounter a retail pitch in a retail store is simply idiotic. It's not that they make commissions because they don't - if they don't make a profit they close. You can easily say you're not interested or JUST LOOKING THANKS! and they'll likely leave you alone. You probably just grunted and waved your hand, demostrating your lack or underdeveloped understanding of basic social skills. Then again if I was masochistic enough to work at a GW store I'd be sure to be as pushy as I could with a punk like you until you sodded off. But that's just me.
It's not just a place for you to 'hang out,' regardless of what your friend is doing. I've sold most of my armies too, and they know it.

I go there pretty often now (I've just moved to Sydney) and it took a fairly long time before the different staff members stopped asking me what I played and talking to me as though they knew everything. It's their job to be informative and to sell things. They're now aware that I know just as much as they do, and often educate them on the background of their hobby. It's nothing like the atmosphere of my old independent local store but it's a great place if you're a normal and friendly person who doesn't spit out ragewords like 'fanboi'.

I am with you in complaining about the current RRP of GW gear in Oz, but I make a point of buying at full RRP at my local store and always have. It's worth it because it keeps them going - but if GW doesn't do it for you any more then than that's your decision. Not their problem.

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Did I say I was going to play Warmachine in his store? NO. I was meeting my friend before heading off. However, his attitude to me entering the store, which IS a social hang out judging by most of those loitering inside made us change our decision where we would spend the afternoon. He could not rightly throw my mate out, as he was a regular. Believe me, Alex is an in-joke around the circuits for his double standards.

Also, buying to 'make a point' is ridiculous. If everyone who was a fanboi did this, we would have many more GW stores... which they do not.

Further, a good retails sales person doesnt need to approach someone to get a vibe if they are going to make a sale or not. Why? I have worked in Liquor and Electronics and did very well on my commissions and targets. I could out-sell any Redshit anyday. Not only does product knowledge come into it, but once in the Eastgardens store (R.I.P) I sold a battleforce to a kid's mother who was vehemently against the hobby as she was some sort of self-styled Christian Missionary and didnt believe in wargaming. Needless to say, my Catholic upbringing assisted me in changing her mind. It's one thing to identify your customer's wants, its another to attempt to force feed them drivel and drag them to the counter in order to make a sale.

"High_Marshal_Helbrecht wrote:
I just couldn't get over the nerve of the guy ya know?..What did he expect?

Her to spin round and look him in the eyes
"You sweaty mass of nerd meat you, the way you fondle my tits like two plastic stompa kits makes me hotter than a Salamander with Heavy Flamer...Kiss me you socially inept pustle of manliness!! BE MY CALGAR!"

That did make me rofl, was taking to a customer at work and had to stick em on hold while I recovered. Sigged,

*starry eyed expression of wonder*

I'm glad you can all appreciate my little twisted humour there!

Tried it on the missus later that night, asked her "Can I grab your stompas?"

Needless to say I need an Apothecary to stitch my nuts back on...

LOL! Helbrecht I've found that generally making jokes about grabbing things isn't good . . . and generally ends up in harm for the man . . .

Back on-topic, as a redshirt I was never pushy, I always just talked to the guys about what they were working on, if they were looking for something but didn't know what, or wanted some models for a conversion I would help out. I would talk through what someone would need to start the game, and go through what you must have, and what would just be desirable to have. And so on and so forth . . . but then, maybe my friendly demeanour is why I no longer work for GW . . . So my worst (and in a way best) experience in a GW is being fired

Oshova

In my FLGS there was a man, or at least some form of well dressed Boogyman that held "DnD" games using our warhammer tables. He had all of his men in his group, (term used loosely) wear communist Russia era clothing, Hammer and sickle this Hammer and Sickle that. All of them were the neck bearded or goth variety, the majority of which have stolen from the FLGS before, but with our lovable blackshirt always busy he never could get them out. They would play overly annoying mood music depending on what they were doing in the game, varying from bagpipes, to the not-so-good deathmetal. Roughly loudly and rudely the man would spew vile language as they played, all of the regulars were tired of his behavior. But the worst wast that all of the NPCs were voiced by the most loud and racist accents ever, you ever try to win a game against 7th edition Daemons with Ogres while some Chinese farmer was yelling "Onwy the Eggwoll!", have ya?

This clothed oggy boogy man and his crew was eventually thrown out for harassing the one and only worker at the LGS one to many times. We now live without fear in our FLGS

21 pages + 2.5 hours = Utter hilarity. I haven't had a bad experience at my FLGS thankfully. Makes we more wary of leaving my models around though.

Bronzi_The_BadlandBelcher wrote:In my FLGS there was a man, or at least some form of well dressed Boogyman that held "DnD" games using our warhammer tables. He had all of his men in his group, (term used loosely) wear communist Russia era clothing, Hammer and sickle this Hammer and Sickle that. All of them were the neck bearded or goth variety, the majority of which have stolen from the FLGS before, but with our lovable blackshirt always busy he never could get them out. They would play overly annoying mood music depending on what they were doing in the game, varying from bagpipes, to the not-so-good deathmetal. Roughly loudly and rudely the man would spew vile language as they played, all of the regulars were tired of his behavior. But the worst wast that all of the NPCs were voiced by the most loud and racist accents ever, you ever try to win a game against 7th edition Daemons with Ogres while some Chinese farmer was yelling "Onwy the Eggwoll!", have ya?

This clothed oggy boogy man and his crew was eventually thrown out for harassing the one and only worker at the LGS one to many times. We now live without fear in our FLGS

Ive had a similar experience, except the annoying D&D group was led/joined by the shop owner. Its a relatively small place, seems like something along the lines of "XXXX relative has (or left me) money and Im gonna start a games store so I can game all day and not have a real job". If you found something you want to buy you typically stood at the counter for several minutes until the guy tore himself from the D&D game to ring you up. The vast majority of stuff in the store is GW, D&D, and snacks. Theres an small smattering of PP and other games, as well as weird crap from Japan...not even games stuff...toys/novelties and crap.

Im not sure if the place is still open, its been months, if not a year, since Ive been there. Its about 30 minutes away, and selection of things I would want is pretty slim.

This one didn't happen at a store, it was in a home D&D game, but it's the same kind of thing. A friend brought me and one other person over to the game, it was run by a couple in their garage. They seemed normal (by gamer standards), they were talkative and friendly, two of the players were their older kids, one was a cousin, another was some other friend. We get started playing, it's low-key and pretty ordinary stuff, in game were a group of adventurers sent to go investigate something at a place where there was some kind of border dispute between a kingdom and some goblins. At night, some goblins throw rocks towards us, so I have my character fire an arrow into the ground as a warning shot to try to intimidate them into leaving, which seems reasonable for a hardened adventurer to do.

All of a sudden, everyone who wasn't one of the 3 visitors Freaks Out. The game comes to a screeching halt, and people are yelling at me about various problems with what I did, that it would start a war with the goblins and ruin their campaign or something. Now, the thing is their initial reaction was bad enough, but if they had taken my 'whoa, chill, I don't do anything then' and we had moved on, this would just be 'some guys overreacted slightly to one thing in a game'. As you might guess, that's not what happened.

The next two hours or so were all filled with discussion of my warning shot. There was a while where I was lectured about me personally being too hot-headed and trying to pick fights (which is odd since it was a character action). There was 20 minutes or so where someone talked about the impossibility of 'nocking and shooting an arrow', and explained how you really have to store a bow with the string off and other irrelevant technical details. I got an explanation of how warning shots are actually illegal (again odd since it was in-game, not IRL). I got a dissertation on how high tensions were between the kingdom and the goblins. And more that I don't remember details of now, it's not like I was taking notes, and I have never before or since had such a lecture in a game.

I wouldn't put up with that today, I'd drive away, demand a ride, or walk away and call a cab, but i wasn't as confident and wasn't really aware of how to deal with nutcases (and didn't have a cell phone). So me and the non-driving friend were just sitting there stunned through the whole multi-hour lecture/dissertation/whatever, which took up most of the play time. To top off the strangeness, they politely said that it was a good game and said that they hoped I'd be back again, to which I just kind of smiled and nodded and then never even considered coming close to there again.

We have two stores in town. The FLGS is quite crampt, and only has two 4x4s. But the LGS with the sucky owner has a 4x6, a 4x8, and a 4x4.

While I do not have any crazy stories about something happening in the store the LGS owner feels the need to randomly not open on our game days. This isnt something that has happened once or twice, it happens about every month or two. Its normally "went to vegas for the weekend" or something along those lines. And it isnt like the some of our guys dont pass through the store throughout the week, and if he were to let someone know we could easily get the word out on our forum. But no, we instead are forced to sit outside the store for an hour waiting to see if he "just stepped out" (not usually the case). But we'd never know because he doesnt leave any notes or anything, the doors are just locked.

Not to mention he doesnt really give two craps about us. I mean I understand he is in the retail business, but he takes it way over the line. A time or two he has offered food or drinks on a tournament day (at a relatively unreasonable price) then tries to tell us we cannot bring our own drinks or food but its okay when he isnt offering food and drinks.

There was another time that one of our guys was trying to get his friend to start, so he came down and was considering a 'Nids battle force (which wasnt in stock). so we mentioned that he would be interested if there was one in stock. When it got there it miraculously had a 15 or 20 dollar markup from the one that just sold.

It seems like it is always something with this guy, I'm normally the type of guy that will support my store even if it is slightly marked up over GW's prices, but i refuse to buy anything from this guy.

:-( I just wish we had someplace better to play.

@tekk_45

Build a board. It's what I did. Then I bought a battlemat.

Whatever suits you, go right ahead and do it. Then you can have people round your house to play (if possible).

tekk... what do you mean marked up over GW price? How could you consider paying more than RRP for GW stuff? My god that's so expensive!

Ordo Dakka wrote:tekk... what do you mean marked up over GW price? How could you consider paying more than RRP for GW stuff? My god that's so expensive!

tekk is in the US.

Imagine a shop doing that here. I can just imagine some shop owner grinning trollface style at me as I look and see that the Blood Knights are $110.

Ordo Dakka wrote:Imagine a shop doing that here. I can just imagine some shop owner grinning trollface style at me as I look and see that the Blood Knights are $110.

I know, right. One of the many reason I order from the UK

Ordo Dakka wrote:Imagine a shop doing that here. I can just imagine some shop owner grinning trollface style at me as I look and see that the Blood Knights are $110.

Thats gakky to do anywhere. I dont even like to pay regular retail prices. Guess Im spoiled from my days of working in a LGS and paying cost + 10% for everything. I would certainly never pay above retail unless it was some sort of long OOP item.

Thats why I tend to do most of my purchasing online. Figuring an average of 20% savings even with shipping its cheaper than retail plus 8% sales tax. Also figure that the only truly decent games store "near" me is 2 1/2 hours away. Even then it can be hit and miss. A couple weeks ago i took the trip out there to pick up the new Daemon Prince, figuring of all places this one would have it in stock...nope. 5 hour round trip and all I had to show for it was some pokemon cards for my kid.


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tekk_45 wrote:We have two stores in town....:-( I just wish we had someplace better to play.

Sucks to hear that. LGS are hard to keep open and profitable, I cant imagine why people would want to run their store like that. When I lived on the other side of FL we had a great store. Guy was friendly as all get out, and once he knew you were a good customer he would do anything for you. He stayed at the store late many times for us to finish games. Sometimes he would even turn the keys over to one of the guys in the group (he knew him pretty well) and say "lock up when you leave".

Im not sure if the store is open anymore...I moved away from there in 1999. Hope it still is.

BearerOfSalvation - tough break mate. Only bad DnD experience I had was when I tried 4.0 with some uni kids who were meta gamers... worst n00bs ever.

tekk - buy from Maelstrom or a friendly online indy... save your $ and when you play the minis not bought in his store, perhaps the troll will realise he is unreasonable.

I havent been to a GW store, but I did have a horrid experience with a patron of my local shop. I was playing 40k with this stereotype of a D&D, smelly, overweight with a beard that looked like he had gotten pubes glued to his face, and he played like a prick, criticizing every move I made at every turn, not saying what he was doing until there were 15 wounds on a squad I didnt even know were being shot at, and just being a bad guy. It was my tau vs orks if anyone was curious, im just the other ork players at the shop are guys I already know and like or this snotling bitter would've created a new stigma against them for me.

I haven't had any ones as bad as what some of y'all have had, but here's a few.

1) Watching two people practice for 'ard Boyz with a friend. Abaddon charges into combat and my friend goes, "He'll <explicit> everything up." I reply, "Unless he rolls a 1." And indeed he rolls a 1 and proceeds to fail his invul save. Next turn, same thing happens and I say to my friend "Damn, that really sucks." I kind of laugh a little too, mainly because I hate Abaddon. The CSM player flips out and starts yelling at me and tells me to get out of the store. Everyone looks at the CSM players like s/he's fracking nuts.

2) A friend of mine who is new to the game is playing an Eldar player in a league game. This Eldar player is your typical pot bellied somewhat affluent gamer and he looks like a creepy pedo. Since my friend has never played against Eldar before I take a look at the guy's list just so I can be aware if he tries to pull any crap during the game. Now, I usually look at people's lists who are playing and no one gives a damn. It's not like I'm touching their models or codexes. But this guy freaks out, snatches the list out of my hand, and starts yelling at me. I say to him, "I'm pretty sure you're not allowed to hide your list in this league." He sort of snarls at me and after a second gives it to my friend. My friend looks over it and asks the guy about everything. The guy doesn't want to tell him what everything does, which is pretty f-ed up IMO, so I fill in the blanks. The game finally starts and my friend ends up stomping that d-bag into the ground.

3) I really dislike people who don't bathe and bring their whiny kids into the store.

Once I wnet into GW, and a blue shirt said, would you like to join in the island of blood gaem, I said i only had a few mins. He said how much is a few, I said 5-10 mins. He said that should be enough. My mum came in, and the guy wnated me to play the game, but my mum said I had to go soon. The man asked me what I wnated, I said a box of plague monks and my mail ordered thing. He gave me my mail order, and then tried to convince me and my mum into buying the island of blood for 60 quid. We said we already had it (preordered) so he said bring it down 2 weeks ahead, and maybe my mate may buy 1 in the store, you see, there was a raffle if you bought from store. Then he says about gamesday tickets, i said I'd got em, then he advertises the coach trip, I said my dad drives me up. Then I grab my monks, then he says would you like to double your army with a battalion = £55, I wouldn't just 'fancy' spending that much, I'd at least plan it. Then he says do you want a plague furnace for £35, i said no. All in all, for a box of monks for £18 pounds, and to pick up an order, I got asked if i wanted to spend an extra £200 quid at least on the stuff mentioned!

Just to bring the mood back up. I went into GW in glasgow just last week and a sales person I have never talked to before walks over. I was wanting to buy a new book (the sundering triology) and he got it for me and while we were talking he gave me a brief overview of the new 8th edition rules, a starter game so I can grasp the basics and even says that I would be better to buy the shortened rule book of a casual or ebay it if I do not have money.

Last time I was in another sales guy tried to help me find spares for my tau as well - no luck though but he did push the new boards a bit, but that's fine it is his job after all. And there used to be a tall ginger guy that worked there that I liked but no idea what happened to him.

the only bad experience i have in GW and this happens every time... is... the staff, friendly as they are try and make me buy the entire contents of the shop... other than that i love GW

Heres one thing to give some prospective to some of you guys...at least you guys have a GW store...there isnt a single on in my whole state...or any neighboring states. The closest one to me appears to be in Memphis TN...aprox 750 miles away.

I don't have a GW store. There used to be 5 LGSs in San Antonio, but the only one worth a damn went under. Everything left is meh.

Oh and, it's really fun to get labeled as a power gamer because I don't run crap lists and table people who take crap like Aun'va...

Darkvoidof40k wrote:@tekk_45

Build a board. It's what I did. Then I bought a battlemat.

Whatever suits you, go right ahead and do it. Then you can have people round your house to play (if possible).

That's the current plan, I just moved into a home with an office that will be dedicated to the hobby.

Ordo Dakka wrote:tekk... what do you mean marked up over GW price? How could you consider paying more than RRP for GW stuff? My god that's so expensive!

Most of the stuff is at retail, but he feels the need to sometimes "round up" and other dumb crap like that. The situation I used was an extreme example, and I've only seen something serious like that a time or two (but any is too much)

AvatarForm wrote:tekk - buy from Maelstrom or a friendly online indy... save your $ and when you play the minis not bought in his store, perhaps the troll will realise he is unreasonable.

That is what I do unless I am in the middle of something and need a paint, as a rule none of the regulars purchase stuff from him since he is so shady. It just sucks, because it is against my nature not to support the store that provides us with gaming space.

Not really an awkward or worst experiance but a few months ago i was shopping with my GF and decided to go grab a GD ticket, much to my amusement the guy in the store spent the next 5-10 mins trying to sell another ticket to my gf who has no interest what so ever in gaming, wasnt bad as i say but was highly amusing watching her look of horror at the thourght of spending the day at GD lol.

I've taken my girlfriend in before, and they just come question me about what I do, and leave her alone . . . Sexism or what? =p

Admitedly I'm there looking at what models I want to buy, and she's there just looking at the models in the cabinet . . . but still.

Oshova

Oshova wrote:I've taken my girlfriend in before, and they just come question me about what I do, and leave her alone . . . Sexism or what? =p

Admitedly I'm there looking at what models I want to buy, and she's there just looking at the models in the cabinet . . . but still.

Oshova

This is not sexism, HOT female gamers do not exist... online or otherwise.

I'm really not liking my local store:

When you've a blackshirt teaching a player that orc slugga boyz have 1 attack each vs spaze marines is it any wonder everyone collects spaze marines?

By my reckoning 7 orc sluggaboyz @ (2 Attacks basic +1 for CCW+Pistol)=21 attacks..

I wouldn't mind but I was directed to him by another staffer who didn't know the details of advance ordering (which is fair enough they cannot know everything) but then to be ignore while he *mis*'teaches' the rules to 2 10 year olds...

It makes me want to set up a gaming club 16+ only. GW seem to be doing enough about the 12-16 YO market now.

*sigh* I don't see any point in GW stores anymore... the size of the games they push are impossible on 4x4 tables.

You cannot turn up to look at stuff without a sales push. It's a far cry from when it was a wealth of information and friendly advice, I mean we are in recession, who just 'randomy' has £50 burning a hole in their pocket and buys a batallion. One battleforce means you probably need to spend at least another £50 to make it into a legal army.

I'm thinking of writing a letter of complaint as I wasted a half an hour of my life today..

I though most GW stores now had a free computer to use to do your own advance orders?

But I think they are mis teaching the rules was on purpose to simplify it for them and get them to buy their flagship army.

Still sucks though.

Oshova wrote:I've taken my girlfriend in before, and they just come question me about what I do, and leave her alone . . . Sexism or what? =p

Admitedly I'm there looking at what models I want to buy, and she's there just looking at the models in the cabinet . . . but still.

Oshova

I find the wife is either ignored or patronised. When we first got together we were in different universities so she would go shopping on her own and was frequently approached with "are you looking for something for your boyfriend?" or had everything explained to her in insultingly simple terms.

The Portland Area in Oregon has a total of 8 Gamestores within a lapse of about 30miles. Most of them are great store and I have attended all of them for different events and I can tell you each store has a different "philosophy" of how to run their store. Some consider themselves like a drive through window, you come, you buy, you leave. Some consider themselves a gamer haven where you are encouraged more to play than to buy. And some well they don't really know what they want to do really. I never had a particuliar experience at any of these stores that marked me but what I do not like ever, is the nepotism of certain stores with some of their favorite customers which at tournaments get treated like nobility to compared to the guys who show up once in a while. While I understand the concept, I think its just bad for business.

MikhailLenin wrote:The Portland Area in Oregon has a total of 8 Gamestores within a lapse of about 30miles. Most of them are great store and I have attended all of them for different events and I can tell you each store has a different "philosophy" of how to run their store. Some consider themselves like a drive through window, you come, you buy, you leave. Some consider themselves a gamer haven where you are encouraged more to play than to buy. And some well they don't really know what they want to do really. I never had a particuliar experience at any of these stores that marked me but what I do not like ever, is the nepotism of certain stores with some of their favorite customers which at tournaments get treated like nobility to compared to the guys who show up once in a while. While I understand the concept, I think its just bad for business.

You are SPOILED!!!

That aside, I understand the 'recognition' of regulars, but to place them above other gamers/hobbyists is where the 'Mates' Club' can hurt the hobby, and business itself. Many GW operate this way, in my experience.

It is one thing to remember a Name... heck, even to recognise a kid who visitted 6 months before and remember his army and ask him how it is progressing; but favouritism is a NO.

AvatarForm wrote:

Oshova wrote:I've taken my girlfriend in before, and they just come question me about what I do, and leave her alone . . . Sexism or what? =p

Admitedly I'm there looking at what models I want to buy, and she's there just looking at the models in the cabinet . . . but still.

Oshova

This is not sexism, HOT female gamers do not exist... online or otherwise.

That proposition seems false.

AvatarForm wrote:

This is not sexism, HOT female gamers do not exist... online or otherwise.

Oh, trust me. This is insanely untrue. I'm in the process of getting a very attractive female friend of mine into the hobby, and she's expressed an interest in Necrons.

But yes, onto the 'Worst Experience" part hmmm....

Well, the GW I went to back when I was in CA was usually very good. Staff was nice, willing to help, players were more than happy to help a noob get started into the hobby, and give me list building advice and all that...but one day just stands out to me.

I was in on a Saturday, so the store was more packed than it usually is, and I didn't know a lot of the people since I tended to go in on weekdays. (Ahh the joys of summer....) I've just managed to land a 2k friendly pick up game, and was taking my minis out of my bag and putting them on the table, when this guys I have never met before, comes over, looks down at my minis and says: "Dude, did you paint these? It looks like a 5 year old did it!" Now, understand, I'm not the best painter in the world, and my models are all very simple as far as color scheme goes. But, c'mon! Who insults a random persons paintjob? Critique? More than accepted. This? TFG.

Howard A Treesong wrote:

Oshova wrote:I've taken my girlfriend in before, and they just come question me about what I do, and leave her alone . . . Sexism or what? =p

Admitedly I'm there looking at what models I want to buy, and she's there just looking at the models in the cabinet . . . but still.

Oshova

I find the wife is either ignored or patronised. When we first got together we were in different universities so she would go shopping on her own and was frequently approached with "are you looking for something for your boyfriend?" or had everything explained to her in insultingly simple terms.

It amuses me when I take my daughter with me. I'm mid-30's in a suit (bit too old) she looks about ten (bit too young) but has her arms full of boxes (she likes to carry them to the checkout). You can watch the staffer trying to work out which one of us is the gamer....

Fetterkey wrote:

AvatarForm wrote:

Oshova wrote:I've taken my girlfriend in before, and they just come question me about what I do, and leave her alone . . . Sexism or what? =p

Admitedly I'm there looking at what models I want to buy, and she's there just looking at the models in the cabinet . . . but still.

Oshova

This is not sexism, HOT female gamers do not exist... online or otherwise.

That proposition seems false.

Prove it.

ChrisWWII wrote:

AvatarForm wrote:

This is not sexism, HOT female gamers do not exist... online or otherwise.

Oh, trust me. This is insanely untrue. I'm in the process of getting a very attractive female friend of mine into the hobby, and she's expressed an interest in Necrons.

Pics or it never happened.

This is my friends GF. She is a PS2 gamer.


This is my friend a PhD student, she plays PS3, RPGS, MTG and yugioh and likes to cosplay.


They are both real and both like playing games. That makes them gamers.

Proven.

Also as a bonus this is me and my friends (Every person in it is in the anime society and ALL play games, pick for yourself who is hot or not -I have ginger hair so I can only be one person)


So many spelling errors >.>

If you want me to show you a picture of her painting Necrons or w/e I can't do that. She hasn't bought any yet. I just explained the background, and basic rules to her, and she said Necrons are awesome, and will pick some up the next time we hang out.



A friend of mine and her at our prom. She is also into DnD, cosplay, and general dressing up. She has also convinced me to give DnD a try.

Oh, and Avatar. I do believe syanti has def proven you wrong beyond a shadow of a doubt.

Keep it on-topic guys..

Its been 22 pages... the topic is done. No new experiences were added.

The 2nd chick is hot, sorry but the other pics are not hot gamer chicks.

syanticraven wrote:This is my friends GF. She is a PS2 gamer.

Spoiler:

This is my friend a PhD student, she plays PS3, RPGS, MTG and yugioh and likes to cosplay.

Spoiler:

They are both real and both like playing games. That makes them gamers.

Proven.

Also as a bonus this is me and my friends (Every person in it is in the anime society and ALL play games, pick for yourself who is hot or not -I have ginger hair so I can only be one person)

Spoiler:

So many spelling errors >.>

ChrisWWII wrote:If you want me to show you a picture of her painting Necrons or w/e I can't do that. She hasn't bought any yet. I just explained the background, and basic rules to her, and she said Necrons are awesome, and will pick some up the next time we hang out.

Spoiler:

A friend of mine and her at our prom. She is also into DnD, cosplay, and general dressing up. She has also convinced me to give DnD a try.

Oh, and Avatar. I do believe syanti has def proven you wrong beyond a shadow of a doubt.

AvatarForm wrote:Its been 22 pages... the topic is done. No new experiences were added.

The 2nd chick is hot, sorry but the other pics are not hot gamer chicks.

worst experience you've had in a dakka thread...

RiTides wrote:For some reason, I've never encountered the problem of smelly gamers.

Don't you spend most of the time 4 feet (at a minimum) away from them, across a gaming table of some sort? (Even if they're not playing you, depending on the layout of the store, of course)

Theres one guy who comes buy my local game store sometimes. His stench is so powerful it actually makes my nose burn. Ive asked my tourny organizer if he ever joins a tourny with me to keep him far away from me and never match me up with him.

AvatarForm wrote:Its been 22 pages... the topic is done. No new experiences were added.

The 2nd chick is hot, sorry but the other pics are not hot gamer chicks.

How old are you? Are you one of these internet hard men that want to give out the impression that they only go out with supermodels?

I have to say that if people can find a nice girl into gaming and dressing up they are worth hanging on to, leave these sad feths who don't know an attractive girl when they see one to spend their nights with a computer.

Howard A Treesong wrote:
How old are you? Are you one of these internet hard men that want to give out the impression that they only go out with supermodels?

I have to say that if people can find a nice girl into gaming and dressing up they are worth hanging on to, leave these sad feths who don't know an attractive girl when they see one to spend their nights with a computer.

Oh QFT. So much QFT right here. Seriously, I'm perfectly happy with her as a friend and I'd much rather spend a day with my friend than sitting in front of the computer all day, even if she's not a supermodel. (Until Portal 2 is involved, then it will be temporarily reversed ) But yes.....I'm just surprised she's into Warhammer. When we first met...

Me: I think I scared my English teacher by shouting out "For the Emperor!"
Her: Is that the Warhammer Emperor? I've heard about that...do you play?
Me: Yep. Imperial Guard.
Her: Cool, I thought that thing sounded really neat.
Me: (Mentally) This girl is awesome.

My local GW has been too busy through the summer with all the school kids to really bother people coming in like they used to (think they may have got rid of a lot of the staff and got some new guys in as well). I still only buy paint in there (had to get a load more as I wanted to have some paints to mix especially for my airbrush). Still have to wait a few minutes to get served while the staff extract themselves from whatever games they were running for the hordes of children (or for them to notice you are standing at the til).

My wife still refuses to go in there though.

Howard A Treesong wrote:

AvatarForm wrote:Its been 22 pages... the topic is done. No new experiences were added.

The 2nd chick is hot, sorry but the other pics are not hot gamer chicks.

How old are you? Are you one of these internet hard men that want to give out the impression that they only go out with supermodels?

I have to say that if people can find a nice girl into gaming and dressing up they are worth hanging on to, leave these sad feths who don't know an attractive girl when they see one to spend their nights with a computer.

What has age got to do with this?

Im sorry my standards are above yours. Apparently, you must be hard up for it or desperate enough not to be too choosey?

Also, you may wish to revise your sentence structures, you look like you were confused as to whether you were addressing the general audience or your thread-stalking mate, Chris. Have you noticed in exactly 3 separate threads, you have posted immediately after eachother...? It's touching, really.

Your age is relevant simply because maturity tends to be fairly tied to age. Immaturity and young age tend to be prevalent in those who judge women only on 'hotness' while failing to consider any other feature.

And so what? Whose the stalker if you're the one who's noticed this?

You have to remember that everyone in Australia is a supermodel. It is all the sunshine and surfing. Plus the ugly ones get killed by the drop bears.

But bloody hell - relax guys. Subjective judgement is just that, subjective.

AvatarForm wrote:What has age got to do with this?

Im sorry my standards are above yours. Apparently, you must be hard up for it or desperate enough not to be too choosey?

Well you come across as quite immature, if you were 14 there'd be an excuse for it. For you "standards" for a girl are basically if you think they are hot is shallow in the extreme. Regardless the girls in the pictures are attractive, it's sad you think otherwise but if/when you grow up you'll realise that attractive women are not all like those in porn and underwear catalogues.

You forget that attractiveness is in the eye of the beholder, just because you think their attractive doen't mean others will. I'm not shallow but the grls are average looking in my attractiveness meter. no offence intended but it shows difference of what everyone considers 'hot' and not.

As for avatar saying they have to be hot... kind of agree, you'd have to find them attractive or 'hot' or you couldnt go out with them (Meaning if a girl is not what you find attractive or appealing looks and personality wise... no way could or would you go out with her).

I am curious though why the pic of the friend's GF has her in a seethrough white top and black bra over a normal top... is it to hypnotise people to look at her chest? if so i failed as i noticed the plug close behid her feet which is a tripping hazard

basically this talks a bit silly about what is attractive and what isn't


On topic my only 'Bad' experience and even at that its very minor was when i went in to get some Empire flaggies to be part of a Bret bloodbowl team as linesmen peasants to be tol 'oh no thats not good is it' and realised it was the guy saying me making a bloodbowl team was not a good thing and frowned upon. not that exciting sadly.

Duce. Oh, I understand completely there is going to be a big difference in the way that people view a girl as hot or not. I'm not going to share my opinion, as I've contributed more than my fair share of dragging this thread OT. But yes. The difference between you and Avatar is that you are doing this in a mature way, while Avatar was not. I also agree with you on the 'hot' thing I suppose, I don't use hot as a personal rule, but the ideas the same. Avatar just came off as dismissing girls for being 'unsexy' in an immature way.

I'll stop going OT now, and let this awesome thread continue.

Duce wrote:
I am curious though why the pic of the friend's GF has her in a seethrough white top and black bra over a normal top... is it to hypnotise people to look at her chest? if so i failed as i noticed the plug close behid her feet which is a tripping hazard

On topic my only 'Bad' experience and even at that its very minor was when i went in to get some Empire flaggies to be part of a Bret bloodbowl team as linesmen peasants to be tol 'oh no thats not good is it' and realised it was the guy saying me making a bloodbowl team was not a good thing and frowned upon. not that exciting sadly.

I just took the first picture of her I could find on her FB, that just happened to be it.
Also why did he not find it a good thing? Surely they just care about you actually buying things?

Ok this thread has serious derailed to the point beyond saving.
Time for everyone to move on.