Content like Hammer and Bolter with very basic animation, short runtimes, and self-contained plots so no need for an overarching writing team really shouldn't be difficult for GW to gak out in massive quantities. I'd kind of forgotten I was subbed to Warhammer+ and think at this point that's what GW are banking on, because it really hasn't borne out to be worth it overall.
I wonder how much of it is tied into the amazon deal, maybe they've had to stop/slow some unfinished works for amazon to polish off or due to staff having to work on that side of the fence.
Or potentially they've shifted into putting more budget into fewer creations. Which might mean fewer shows but higher production values later in the year.
Or its hit the roadblock of doing what it was intended to do (get a big firm like Amazon behind it) and now its got caught in a catch where they can't get the budget until the Amazon deal pays off to see how well it works.
I always thinking that GW isn’t sure what they want to do with it as a whole.
Like they got ideas, but still Working it out.
If not for a mini (Which my account is still screwed up on.) I wouldn’t even bother. I log in every 3 months and watch for an afternoon and done.
And the minis I don’t think would get me to sign up on their own ether.
Honestly that Chaos Knight looks wrong and off with only the almost perfect replicated miniature star on it's hood.
To me its the texture work on it. The corroded look doesn't feel like its eaten into the 3D render right and gives it a softer, almost leather texture.
Sorry, but to me that teaser looks attrociously bad.
The only thing remotely good are the 3D models, they have issues, but look decent enough in the static screenshots. that's a common trick, screenshots can be rendered really quickly. Animation rendering takes a lot of CPU time and compression does the rest. Hence the animated quality is usually a lot worse than the stand stills.
Obvious bad things:
- animation looks static and wonky, I am being reminded of 1999 gameplay animation. As if the knights are driving on a rail. For better examples: Compare that to the motion of the dreadnought in the DoW 1 intro. Or the Dreadnoughts in the parade in the Lord Inquisitor Prologue.
- everything sound is terrible: sfx, voices, mixing and music. In fact the sound must be so attrociously bad, that they did not dare show any of it in the trailer, apart from some very ill-timed music and 2 voice lines that are again both too silent and with too little bass.
- half the teaser is: show 2 seconds screen time, then 2 seconds black screen. repeat. They are already stalling for time on a 45sec. teaser? What ever it is, it will be over quickly. They cleary have no material after 3 years of development.
- no plot, they only show us some walking knights and some minor explosions. and both these things look bad.
- I am getting a migraine from the fps drops that are intended to show that the Knights have "weight"
- the color grading is too dark. They use darkness to cover for missing details/colors. Thats like equivalent of dipping your models in wash and calling it "grim dark style".
- We didn't see a single face, so I guess they solve the problem of wonky face animations with everyone just wears a helmet or it's too dark to see their face
This looks dead on arrival to me.
Compare that to Helsreach, which I think is fair because by the animation style it looks like that is from the same guy.
1. Take an awesome story
2. turn it into an awesome audio book
3. run an animation over it
Yes the animations were bad, but because the core of the story is good, it is super entertaining.
So, Broken Lance has finally been released and it was okay. The animation was clunky, the facial animations in particular felt off, reminding me a lot of the talking heads from the first two Fallout games. The Knights were clunky and cumbersome, not at all feeling like the amazing war machines that could run at full tilt and go toe to toe with monsters. The Armigers did have speed and agility going for them, that was nice. Story was fine, not posting any spoilers here, but went about how I thought it would.
I have to admit, it was better than what thought it would be based on the teaser. But it still wasn't good enough for me to recommend it to someone. And considering that it is the one and only part makes me wonder why it took them 2 years to complete, that is 1 minute per month of screen time.
The best part: The first minutes where they retell the history of the knight house, with banners and lots of details. Some nice world building for Knight fans.
Notable: the sound is a lot better compared to Angels of Death, still room for improvement though.
The worst part: Half the thing was an old crone's "rambling" and me just waiting for her to come to the obvious point.
I give Knight in the Retirement Castle 4/10. Would not watch again in the foreseeable future.
Then the question must be asked, a question we will all have to ask our selves in the middle of summer. "To renew our subscriptions or cancel in hopes that someday the live action stuff will be better." The 3 to 4 years will be a long wait for that. I'm sure warhammer plus will try to bait us on their next year worth of contant and we will contemplate on what was offered the last 12 months and decide if we even still care
I think the slow heavy mechs was a good choice to help convey their sense of power, size and the heavy rugged nature of Imperial technology. Perhaps a touch too overbearing, but I think it worked well to convey such without them having to model every footfall in super high detail to convey weight and such.
I rather enjoyed the Crones rambling; but as has been an issue with other 3d ventures the lip sync and such isn't the best so that can detract/distract a bit.
Overall enjoyable and I like the story twist. It's not top tier but I'd say its a solid B for Warhammer productions.
I'm surprised anyone is still paying for this. At best subscribers seem to be ambivalent about majority of the content. You did get some cool minis though!
Watching Broken Lance now... this sure looks like a game intro from ten years ago. I haven't watched any of the W+ fiction stuff in a while, it's still embarrassing.
Edit: I have finished. It didn't get better. Making everything dark and foggy didn't successfully hide how crappy everything looks.
Gallahad wrote: I'm surprised anyone is still paying for this. At best subscribers seem to be ambivalent about majority of the content. You did get some cool minis though!
mini is what keeps me, But probably not worth it. As a package it’s been ok, but I wouldn’t buy these minis alone, and I only sign onto the app when this thread tells me too at this point.
BrookM wrote: I will not be renewing myself, the offerings have been very, very meagre and the only real saving grace has been the mini for me this year.
Has anything else been announced on the animated front for this year?
Short answer is no. Pariah Nexus gets a sequel, but we don't know when that will happen.
Yeah, I pay for the year in one burst mainly for the minis and the vouchers for the first two years. This year they gave crappy merch vouchers which I didn't use because I don't have any interest in merch.
chaos0xomega wrote: Yeah, I pay for the year in one burst mainly for the minis and the vouchers for the first two years. This year they gave crappy merch vouchers which I didn't use because I don't have any interest in merch.
First two years the total package was a lot better. None of the individual parts was anything to write home about, but collectively I thought they were worth the price.
The mech vouchers are also worthless to me. I checked out the catalog, but even with a discount, nothing seemed worth it.
The shows are a lot thinner this year. I might have low expectations, but I’ve enjoyed watching what they have. But what they have is not a whole lot. I like the loremasters, but the paint is getting real repetitive, and the animation is few and far between.
App access is nice?
Minis are a big draw, but I’ve still got them all unbuilt. Other stuff to do in the PoS.
Unless they do better next year, this might be my last.
Just finished "watching" Broken Lance and it was surprisingly better than I thought it would be, as it had a little bit more to it than just gratuitous Knight-porn.
If this was a series I'd probably consider a subscription. Can't believe I've just said that...
Had a day thinking about broken lance, it feels like it was too long for what we got and too short for what they wanted to do.
But I did think it was a ok single episode show, the actual dialogue could have been cleaned up a bit.
And the actual battles I feel where to much, rather than brutal snapshots.
I actually think GW could get a lot from like 5 min shorts of battles in the 40K universe.
Since it seems like we are jist waiting for so long for one thing that really doesn’t do much.
I’m with Nev; an exclusive model, a GW shop voucher and a reasonable drumbeat of animations (even if the quality was…variable) was worth the price of admission, but this year in particular has been very dry of content to justify the price
I didn;t renew after the seond year when I realised that I hadn't really used it for about 3 months,
I was thinking about another year when the next minis are released as Would have lots to catch up on, but I don't think that is actually the case, so I'll probably give it a miss for another year.
It definitely has the feeling of a project that lost its original sponsor, but is generating too much cashflow so no one wants to kill it, so they let it limp along with few resources.
I just wish they'd stop trying to make it do everything and focus on the app + minis:
1) Minis were exceptional. A 50mm "Centerpiece" quality hero" or an Underworld's team should be the target.
2) There was a steady drumbeat of app improvements
3) Pre-order guarantee queuing system for limited release items
The animations are cool, but IMHO, I'd rather they were posted somewhere for free to encourage new players to pick up the game. The money feels like a total rip-off compared to a streaming service, but it feels reasonable for a nice model and a great app.
flaherty wrote: It definitely has the feeling of a project that lost its original sponsor, but is generating too much cashflow so no one wants to kill it, so they let it limp along with few resources.
I just wish they'd stop trying to make it do everything and focus on the app + minis:
1) Minis were exceptional. A 50mm "Centerpiece" quality hero" or an Underworld's team should be the target.
2) There was a steady drumbeat of app improvements
3) Pre-order guarantee queuing system for limited release items
The animations are cool, but IMHO, I'd rather they were posted somewhere for free to encourage new players to pick up the game. The money feels like a total rip-off compared to a streaming service, but it feels reasonable for a nice model and a great app.
The painting tutorials are great since the latest presenter started.
I'm cancelling, merch voucher instead of a GW voucher was the last nail in the coffin along with the fact I haven't played any AOS or 40k in well over a year so I'm not getting the value from the apps.
The Imperium is an entity of unimaginable size, a mass of humanity living on innumerable worlds scattered throughout the stars. To keep its vast machinery moving, a monstrous bureaucracy demands offerings from all its constituent worlds, citizens and soldiers of all levels working tirelessly to keep vital resources flowing between planets.
The Tithes is a three-part Warhammer animation anthology, in the same style and fidelity as Pariah Nexus. It’s composed of three self-contained stories that each shine a different light on an interesting and little-explored slice of this vast, dystopian setting.
As before, I'll bite (or not) on the strength of the exclusive models. I hope they don't show them off only three seconds before the new year starts like they did last year.
Yeah its a shame that the Vault updates just stopped and even the animations have felt very sparse this last year. I do wonder if its simply that GW tried to focus on fewer higher quality ones; but I've been sorely missing Bolter and chainsword even with its janky animation here and there.
Whatever the model is it will probably be smaller than last years going on previous form, for the 40k model we have gone from an assassin on a large scenery base, to a terminator, to a single guardsman last year.
Agreed, I'd have been ok with that if they'd really pushed the boat out for a few absolutely stella creations, but its just felt very quiet. Like the spark has burned out, esp when you couple it to a lack of vault updates and where the main content seems to be Lore and Paintwork and where the latter was already something they did for free before.
Is anyone else locked out of the content? My order history still shows, it lists an August auto-renewal day in the Subscribe section, but the Library is empty and I cannot get to the TV or other sections.
And yes, I have tried signing out and back in again.
Skinnereal wrote: Is anyone else locked out of the content? My order history still shows, it lists an auto-renewal day in the Subscruibe section, but the Library is empty and I cannot get to the TV or other sections.
And yes, I have tried signing out and back in again.
It is working for me currently, and I renewed this week.
The Night Lords bits we saw was a very, very rough proof of concept that was based on the "Throne of Lies" audio drama, most likely done to show what animation could look like, based on an existing work.
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: At Least It Is Not Den Of Geek Who Insist On Using A Capital Letter For Every Word Of A Headline.
Which I'm sure is some kind of accepted journalistic style. Title Case?
Anyway, I'm hoping GW are going to show off a couple of really good exclusive minis before my renewal date in a couple of weeks. A voucher for the online store like previous years would help seal the deal. This year has been quite poor imo and I'm less than enthused to resubscribe.
It's what our Lord and Master Google Algorithm wants - even Google must bow to what the code defines as desirable and desire is the most clickbait! The more clickbait the better!
Anyone know off hand how many new animations were added in the last 12 months?
It feels like not many and im personally not getting good value out the £70+ ive been charged for the last 12 months, a "free" £25 mini aint cutting it no more for me, i was only a subber for the animation and "free" collectors mini, but il prob be better off trying to get the mini i like through Mad Docs Loot group (A quick plug for you https://www.facebook.com/groups/1710575492567307 ) and the animation was hit and miss anyway which is a shame and has been so sparse over the last 18+ months. At the mo i feel like using the £5.99 i pay monthly for W+ on a STL or music Patreon where at least i get some half decent value each month.
Got to admit I've missed them doing things like Bolter and Chainsword - it does feel like this year we didn't really get many. Also we've had several trailers for animations that haven't yet appeared.
They also stopped updating the backissues which I think is cause the person handling that left and GW just never replaced them. Plus as they wanted to remove all game content from them it was likely more work sifting through than its worth; esp when people likely complained about it too.
It has been a very, very gakky year content wise, they'll have to go hard if they want to see me resubscribe. Hammer and Bolter was janky at times in terms of animation, but there were some real gems in there story-wise. I'd also love to see more along the lines of Interrogator, that was surprisingly good.
It's entirely dependent on the minis for me-I've stopped buying WD over a year ago (after reading since the early 80's) as there's just notning in it for me anymore. Warhammer + just doesn't have enough on offer but if the minis are ones I want I *may* just keep the sub going.
Yeah I don't want to see WD go but at the same time their print quality is a lot cheaper than it was before (no more glossy pages) and it just feels like its missing the mark
I believe Pariah Nexus and Broken Lance were the only animations since September 2023.
The rest is Masterclass, Battle Reports, and Loremasters. None of which I have watched this year.
Masterclass & Battle Reports, I can find free and of equal or better quality.
Loremasters is a waste of time to me. It needlessly keeps cutting back to show the host speaking. I don't want to see their faces and watch them talk about the lore. I want to see as much art as possible, if they insist on doing these lore dumps as video. They could be text articles & I could read them twice as fast as the drawn out video. Sadly, 95% of the lore is already available in Lexicanum or the 40k wiki for free, and in a format I like. I was optimistic at first that Loremasters would be better done, with new insights.
I am still likely holding onto my sub for the 40k & AoS army builder apps. Of course, at this time I have no idea what is available without the WH+ sub, and frequent Codex code entries.
I am definitely cancelling my sub this year unless the models are incredible (and a Ratling sniper team and maybe a mini Skaven doomwheel which is one of the others I've seen suggested are fun sounding but not enough).
The vault has gone backwards. There are barely any animations and I just don't care about the other stuff.
Overread wrote: Yeah I don't want to see WD go but at the same time their print quality is a lot cheaper than it was before (no more glossy pages) and it just feels like its missing the mark
Yeah the recent significant drop off in the quality of paper is what’s made me decide to call it a day, I’d been wavering for a while as it’s pretty soulless now, though the bunker stuff is decent. But I’m not paying a premium price for something that feels like it’s printed on recycled bog roll.
Yeah I feel sorry for their photography people cause they are clearly still putting in loads of effort ;but the current print quality is just not up to it at all. The photos all seem kind of over-exposed and washed out - which likely means that somewhere the calibration is wonky on what the printers are importing and using.
Ah its not just me that has had enough of the lack of content this last year. Shame as W+ started of fairly well and looked promising.
The new W+ minis do sound interesting and i look forward to their reveal, but i very much doubt they will be enough to keep me subbing. Id need to see a road map of a years worth of animation being added to get me to re-sub. ie 3 or 4 series each made of 4-6 20 odd min episodes.
I was surprised an article was on the main website that mentioned 3D printing.
Anyway, Warhammer+ may or may not be resubscribed, I'd like to see a road map for animations of the next 12 months (which they usually do right?) before making any decision.
Thing I really dislike about WD is the bunker nonsense. I get nothing useful out of it and it takes up so many pages.
Cut bunker bunkum and use the space to give us something useful. It's really gone downhill since Lyle became editor. Bring back decent editors like Fat Bloke. I know we won't get him as he's part owner of Warlord Games.
Something I am really missing is both voxcast and stormcast, they were great podcasts and it's a shame that Wade moved over to the studio, as I felt he was a great host who nudged his guests into the right direction with minimal intervention.
Jaxmeister wrote: Thing I really dislike about WD is the bunker nonsense. I get nothing useful out of it and it takes up so many pages.
Cut bunker bunkum and use the space to give us something useful. It's really gone downhill since Lyle became editor. Bring back decent editors like Fat Bloke. I know we won't get him as he's part owner of Warlord Games.
I had really high hopes for the Bunker, but I am disappointed in the execution myself. The missions are okay... but they're just missions. I feel like a few of the other, less valuable pages in the bunker could be used to make more of the missions- the 9th ed Flashpoint stuff was pretty good, and while there may not be enough pages in the section to take it that far, you could nudge it in that direction with even one extra page to contextualize the mission.
The AoS Path of Glory campaign they ran looked half way decent to me, but I don't play AoS. It seemed simple, but there were a few rules to go along with it, a couple of maps, I think a themed mission. It wasn't over the top, but there was enough content that I was looking forward to the 40k version. When it finally came, I found it to be a huge disappointment. It was long enough ago that I don't remember enough of the details, but the only thing that stood out to me at all was a couple of Crusade Relics.
I think that if you are a part of a gaming club, it might have more appeal- the little meta-gamey trackers and things might be useful? I think that Flashpoints were superior to the bunker stuff.
Possibly the new Warhammer plus models.
Releasing a rubbish scuplt of an inquisitor, while locking a good one behind Warhammer plus is certainly a choice. Edit- Ninjad!
Something I am really missing is both voxcast and stormcast, they were great podcasts and it's a shame that Wade moved over to the studio, as I felt he was a great host who nudged his guests into the right direction with minimal intervention.
Yeah I really enjoyed those- great insight into the studio and the designers, particularly enjoyed anytime Jes would be interviewed ...
On the models - I like the Cities Marshall model , I think the inquisitor model would rock with a grim dark scheme though, definitely a bit of Blanche madness on his sidekick..
This is the first time I'm going to pay for the second model
I love the marshall and especially his attendant and I have a cities army. The inquisitior is the best one they've done since Eisenhorn and his companion is exactly the kind of madness I was hoping to see more of in the imperial agents book.
I also really like both sets of figures. The details are cool and I don't even play either force they belong to. I like they each get an extra figure as well so there must be rules included?
Currently looking up how much a subscription is but for the whole year up front it says you only pay for 9 months and get your mini early which is nice.
I notice the servo skull gets his own little tactical rock, guess someone had to.
Shame online trolls were saying just recently there'd be a Skaven doom-flayer version for Warhammer Plus. What a joke.
I'm collecting a small Cites of Sigmar army (basically one of each model) so this is great for me. I'll probably trade the Inquisitor/Assassin for something.
Trying to figure out the scale of Freeguild Marshal Ashfield and Squire Udo.
On the GW site there's a Freeguild Marshal and Relic Envoy which have a 32mm and 28mm base.
Anyone know how Cities of Sigmar minis would compare scale wise to Blood Bowl figures? I'm guessing Blood Bowl minis would be slightly bigger. Just had a thought for my gunners theme team the Marshal might make a nice coach with Squire as Apothecary, or something.
Also that Sigmar 'S' on the back of his cape would be sculpted on? Or transfer?
lost_lilliputian wrote: Trying to figure out the scale of Freeguild Marshal Ashfield and Squire Udo.
On the GW site there's a Freeguild Marshal and Relic Envoy which have a 32mm and 28mm base.
Anyone know how Cities of Sigmar minis would compare scale wise to Blood Bowl figures? I'm guessing Blood Bowl minis would be slightly bigger. Just had a thought for my gunners theme team the Marshal might make a nice coach with Squire as Apothecary, or something.
Also that Sigmar 'S' on the back of his cape would be sculpted on? Or transfer?
BB primarily uses 32mm, so imagine that the marshal will be the same size, and the envoy will be a little smaller than that. with all the dynamic poses that BB has, tho, envoy probably won't stand out
Since we once again see how hit and miss the allure of the free model and chance to buy a second model is to subscribers (The obvious move for this year would have been to make a miniature version of the Karl Kopinski artwork of Inquisitor Tyrus from the Inq cover, the 54mm model never did him justice either but maybe they are planning to release him as a normal model but if the pose or sculpt is at all different from that artwork you could justify it.) might I suggest something that would have a more consistent appeal in a similar vein to go alongside. Have votes or polls of subscribers for Made for Order runs of OOP metal (That they've already done like the Juan Diaz Daemon Prince) or even plastic models or even unreleased plastics from the past, like the unreleased Slaanesh CSM terminator sprue or the old Chaos mutations sprue or the zombie kit that had a lot of conversion and diorama uses beyond the current one. I'm sure there are a lot more unreleased or never intended to release stuff they have that we don't even know about. Or the same thing for old rules publications, want a new copy of a 3rd edition codex, you can have the chance to buy with 1 year of Warhammer plus! They already sell new versions of the Realms of Chaos books and Rogue Trader as WH World Exclusives. Pay GW model just to have access to buy things! Best of all you can also continue to make money from general release Made to Order, this service could focus on either things you've already done a run for or things too niche to ever bother as a general release.
This all might be more expense but it's crucially all stuff GW is already doing and doesn't seem like it's all that much more of an expense since it's not using new sculpts or much use of plastic mold machines or separate packaging, it'd all use the generic boxes they use for web only stuff. And you're going with models with known and understood appeal you didn't spend time making without knowing the appeal. The point of this subscription service is to make predictable consistent money but if almost everyone is really just paying for the models the big fluctuations in their appeal that take a year to change is a bad model that threatens the whole service and looks more not less swingy than normal GW releases. Plus a lot of these models should be general release so even when you make a good model it's bittersweet since you'd have made more money even selling it normally at ~40-60% the cost of the Warhammer plus sub and without having to support the costs of the infrastructure of Warhammer Plus or whatever the animations cost. See the Noise Marine as an example of something that would have driven a lot of Warhammer Plus subs but probably made them a lot more money. That World Eater lord from the old 2nd edition artwork would have sold in epic numbers as a normal release. The botched attempt at making that Karl Kopinski artwork of the Kasrkin wouldn't really have made much money as a character price release and likely hurt Warhammer Plus too.
Warhammer Plus started as a way for GW to expand their profits into the entertainment line seeing how well the short and one man and unpaid production of Astartes did they thought this short format worked well for the Warhammer universe since it's a setting nor a narrative you drop in for a few short episodes with characters but even this effort seems to utterly rely on exclusive models to sell the service. This may be a moot point now that there is a new animated series on Amazon. This may be the last year for GW plus. Far easier to make these series like video games, farm out the licence to others to take the risks but more of the profits but also be seen by a larger audience to serve as adverts for their main business, miniatures but also to the video games.
Im feeling the Inquisitor - this model shall be mine, its whats missing from my KT21 Inquisitorial retinue. Shame its locked behind a subscription tho, would gladly pick this up direct
StudentOfEtherium wrote: the weapon loadout for the inquisitor is interesting, tho. not sure they can take inferno pistols this edition
They can't, which is funny seeing inq with combi-weapon was sold on multiple MtO with the inferno pistol one and giving rules to one but not the other is just silly. Hell, there are more inq with inferno pistol than a combi-weapon, actually, including the really nice lady model, making it even more baffling...
Overread wrote: They also stopped updating the backissues which I think is cause the person handling that left and GW just never replaced them.
Yeah, it's sad how terribly ran the WC is. It feels like a collection of pet projects of whatever intern is assigned there at the moment, not professional outfit of a huge company. I loved Regimental Standard and its AoS equivalent, both not only dropped without a word, but deleted from website for no reason despite being excellent ad for the setting. Close to 20+ comics started then abruptly stopped midway - which is especially puzzling with big budget, high quality ones like the Rogue Trader comedy strip - did GW forgot to pay artist or whatever dude was uploading these left and no one remembers WC is sitting on the trove of forgotten issues?
lost_lilliputian wrote: I notice the servo skull gets his own little tactical rock, guess someone had to.
You'd prefer gluing that tiny wire to the base instead? Really?
The Phazer wrote: From Valrak - one of the Warhammer+ models is a Ratling sniper team cooking some food (which would fit a few rumour engine images).
Oh look, V utterly wrong again when he can't steal from actual reliable source, episode 576783? Gee, color me surprised
Out of curiosity, I looked at his BA "rumors" and he was laughably wrong even with that lowest hanging of fruits - not only he "predicted" primaris Tycho (for a few hours, until someone with a clue reminded V he is dead, then the "rumor" was hastily deleted), but he got the order of releases of BA characters wrong, at first claiming Sanguinor will be in BA army box, until again, he saw actually reliable people calling that BS then he changed his tune right quick. But yeah, he """predicted""" GW will replace BA finecast models with plastic. Something they only were doing, of, whole of last decade, and only accelerated now with recent SM releases. Such prediction, much wow.
Meanwhile, we have actual accurate, reliable sources like the AoS dude who gave us name of Skaventide box, its contents, and the contents of Skaven second wave, down to the names of individual characters - and yet, none of them attracts such brown-nosing cult despite vastly better record. Go figure
But alas, eventually GW will release some sort of ratling model with chicken (a terribly difficult 'guess' to make seeing we have RE pic of chicken in very IG like environment) and the clownrak brigade will go back to licking his boots claiming he is 348590% """accurate""" with his """predictions""" - hey, guys, when GW will release that plastic Warhound Titan he keeps babbling on and off about since 2012?
But alas, eventually GW will release some sort of ratling model with chicken (a terribly difficult 'guess' to make seeing we have RE pic of chicken in very IG like environment) and the clownrak brigade will go back to licking his boots claiming he is 348590% """accurate""" with his """predictions""" - hey, guys, when GW will release that plastic Warhound Titan he keeps babbling on and off about since 2012?
Excuse me, but even I have enjoyed plastic warhounds since late 2018!
Did you notice the trolling in the latest WHC video? There was a whiteboard in the shot for a brief time close to the end of the video, where they had a pict of an epic scale Thunderhawk with a post it next to it saying "MAKE BIGGER"
First the squat making a comeback was the meme, now its a 28mil plastic Thunderhawk it seems..
Overread wrote: GW has been trolling about the Thunderhawk in plastic for aaaaages.
It's right up there with Edoxites and their now annual mention of Codex Zoats
I occasionally still wonder if the Idoneth Deepkin didn't actually come about because an intern didn't realize the plan to make "Fishmen" wasn't a joke...
Rouge Trader... sounds make upped. Wombat Patrol - maybe a new dice line? Warhammer: Romance. Well... GW is all about pleasure and pain, though you can't have the first without the latter (but vice versa).
I'm curious who these ultra reliable sources he's copying/stealing from are, because I've not seen any others in years.
Edit: I'm quite serious as well when I say if someone can point me at where he got the info for the killteam, BA and Agents from, I'll start going there and cutting out the middle man. I strongly suspect Irbis cannot source it however.
The last animation they released the other day was great, honestly a very solid release and I WANT GW to keep doing more.
The models they are doing this time around also all look great.
The problem is I do feel that this last year we got a lot less in content; far fewer videos; less backissue material.
I also don't collect either of the two armies on show in the models.
That said I can accept that GW might be between a rock and a hardplace of "provide more videos" and "we want higher quality, more fps, better audio, better animation etc...". Which means if they lean into quality, that's going to impact the budget for how many they can do.
Right now I feel like I'll likely let my monthly sub roll over into the new year. I'm not thrilled enough to go for it all in one go up front (if they'd done a few animations over the last month or so and had models I collected armies for* then I might well have)
*fully accepting that's a 100% "ME" thing not something that is GW's fault.**
**though I could fault them for doing Imperials again and not another Xeno
Nope, I'm out. Been subbed from the start because WH+ could have been amazing, they're GW, they have access to more material than anyone else, they could have accompanied every release with the kinds of concept art drops and designer's commentary we used to get in White Dwarf. Loremasters could have been an unparalleled resource drawing on decades of material, battle reports could have had massive production values with animated markers or pulling out obscure games from GW's history. the Vault could have been the ultimate archive for material, indexed and tagged for ease of navigation.
But no. I've given GW three years to pull their fingers out, but 310 days without a vault update was the last straw, I waited till today because they teased a preview of what's coming but it's all just inane rubbish:
Ooh there's going to be a pub quiz, how droll
Hobby content beyond just painting, great idea, shame it took you three years to realise not everyone's interested in painting
BL Author interviews, fantastic for anyone who gives a damn about what the authors think. personally I care about *what* was written, not what the author was thinking about when they wrote it, death of the author an' all that.
so yeah, cancelled my sub. Might re-up in a few years and binge the backlog of material that has been added in the interim but it's just not worth it for a model that, while admittedly nice, I won't actually use, and a service where one of the major selling points has been left to rot
Bit of a piss take the yearly subs stayed the same price while the monthly subs went up in the prise rise, it used to be sign up for a year and pay for 10 months get 2 free, now with the monthly subs at £5.99 its pretty much pay for 8 months and get 4 free, how about a bone for us plebs/suckers that pay monthly, you know the ones that pay £21.89 more each year!
Im out, ive heard it all before about how great the service will be, 3 full years later after launching its extremely lackluster especially this last year and after unfairly penalising of monthly subbers with a price increase for only them, im definitely done with the gak show of W+
They were talking about volume, with over 150 new shows. That’s like 3 a week. So we get the regulars, like loremasters and a painting tutorial, and one more each week? That does not sound a lot better then what we have now.
Well I half justified sticking around by cancelling my WD sub.
The shift to cheaper printing; the fact that honestly I find I don't really read it much; and honestly its just not an exciting sub. You get a different front cover and that's about it really as perks for subbing. I recall when you got a backpack or free model every so often. Heck they can't even agree on how they bundle their cardstock - sometimes its separate; sometimes its punchout; sometimes you have to cut it out yourself.
So yeah, whilst I love paper written stuff I've dropped the WD
Episode 1 of The Tithes does not feel like the caliber of storytelling GW should be at for going into their third year of insisting they should be doing all this stuff their selves on their own platform. That was a couple of game cutscenes linked together.
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: If it wasn’t for the spiffy models I’d be out. But they exists, and Magpie Doc Grotsnik must have his shinies.
My finger was hovering over the cancel button yesterday, but when I factored in the free model, and the access to the 40K app I relented and decided to allow the sub to renew this year.
I'll probably subscribe again this year. After overindulging in a couple of Ordo boxes for the recent Imperial Agents release, it would be a shame to pass up the Warhammer+ Inquisitor.
When GW does updates to the rules (40K specifically) the updates are written into the digital rules as well (for example, the pics and rules showing how a Bloodthirster moves between ruins). If someone does not have a subscription, does this function in the same manner?
Not judging if this is a good or bad business practice but I use the app nearly exclusively while playing the game.
General Kroll wrote: I factored in the free model, and the access to the 40K app
This is why I sub. The sub for both apps was $6 USD a month as was, so it was cheaper to just sub to WH+ for an annual fee and get at least one model included.
When GW does updates to the rules (40K specifically) the updates are written into the digital rules as well (for example, the pics and rules showing how a Bloodthirster moves between ruins). If someone does not have a subscription, does this function in the same manner? .
General Kroll wrote: I factored in the free model, and the access to the 40K app
This is why I sub. The sub for both apps was $6 USD a month as was, so it was cheaper to just sub to WH+ for an annual fee and get at least one model included.
Might be tempted to sub if they included White Dwarf as a digital download, even if it was a month behind.
Plenty of great painting guides online, and more detailed ones for lore on just about anything you would want to know. Then maybe one animation a week. Just not worth it, even with the nice models.
The price increase for monthly and not the yearly is GW catching on to the fact that a lot of people are subscribing for a month, binge watching, then cancelling. Which is something I'll most likely be doing at some point.
I considered subscribing for the first time- then they revealed the models and they're nothing I could need. Maybe next year. Or one quiet month to watch the stuff that's in there.
When GW does updates to the rules (40K specifically) the updates are written into the digital rules as well (for example, the pics and rules showing how a Bloodthirster moves between ruins). If someone does not have a subscription, does this function in the same manner? .
When GW does updates to the rules (40K specifically) the updates are written into the digital rules as well (for example, the pics and rules showing how a Bloodthirster moves between ruins). If someone does not have a subscription, does this function in the same manner? .
Are you stating it is only available as a separate PDF if you don't have a subscription? My app gets completely updated with all the changes.
Ignore. I asked locals who clarified what they have access to without a subscription.
Yep, updates happen with or without the subscription. The updates to the app update the database, so the sub only opens up locked content. I had indeed failed to answer your question in that reply.
Decided to renew, the annual fee was not as steep as I thought it was and well, the first episode of the Tithes was actually pretty good, I have high hopes for the second one as well now. Just hoping that future vouchers are a bit better than the ones we had last year.
Loved the new episode and its story. I have many thoughts!
Animating faces and eyes is hard, but this animation zoomed in dramatically during conversations, particularly the last one, and their confidence paid off. It looked great and added to the drama.
The first Tithes animation was very video-gamey just because it was all marines and evil robots. they must've saved some budget because this thing was packed with people, foliage, and organic stuff in general.
In general it looked fantastic and everyone/everything was well animated and worked the way it should. Lots of great moments.
Personally I don't like the custodes deciding a biomass firebreak is a good idea just because the lore had kind of left that up for debate. Specifically whether it was a good idea or not and whether it even worked. The custodes should theoretically have access to more info than anyone, and allegedly greater strategic minds, so this is a strong (even definitive) stamp of approval to the idea. It does have some cool positives though for further stories, such as
-was guilliman involved in the decision and what does he think about it?
-is this desperation or caution?
-worlds this close to terra are not just unimportant backwaters, presumably there will be some in the firebreak with a lot of importance or political sway, how is that going to work out?
Overall a really cool story from a lore standpoint and it was all done to a high quality. I'd love to see this level of care put into animations for other factions (the Exodite was a good start), or even just continue to focus on elements of the lore that are only in the background of the rulebooks. I don't think anyone would have predicted an animation about the black ships, custodes, sisters of silence, adeptus arbites, tyranids, and space marines - all in one single episode! And they even were clever enough to work in a custodes logically - normally they wouldn't be with a black ship, but in a case where they need to pull rank on space marines, who else would you send?
When you list it out like that this episode was packed with cool and unusual stuff, and was still terrific from start to end. Send this to Amazon as a 'how to do warhammer right' example!
Well, speaking of Amazon, we are getting a 40k themed episode in their upcoming Secret Level show this December, done by Studio Blur, who have done amazing stuff in the past, so high hopes for that one.
I like that they used British Sign Language for the Thoughtmark, it may not look as elegant, but often things described as incredibly sophisticated and elegant do not always translate well to the screen, but it is a great compromise. I also quite liked how the Custodes decided to translate what her "little sister" was saying hehe.
It wouldn't surprise me if the Custodes decided on this matter on their own, or with backing of the current council on Terra set up by Guilliman, this is Segmentum Solar we are talking about after all and that's making them all a bit nervous, no matter how far away the tendrils still are.
I've watched the SoS episode 3 times- liked it a lot. I liked it enough that I'm ready to go back and watch the Marine episode.
So glad to hear that the short absence of the Exodite was a temporary glitch... but it reminds me about the thing I most hate about the world of streaming entertainment: you don't own it, and it could disappear at anytime with no notice, and there's nothing any of us can do about it when it happens.
I know that it doesn't, but I feel like my three years of membership fees should entitle me to make a personal copy for personal use.
BrookM wrote: Well, speaking of Amazon, we are getting a 40k themed episode in their upcoming Secret Level show this December, done by Studio Blur, who have done amazing stuff in the past, so high hopes for that one.
I like that they used British Sign Language for the Thoughtmark, it may not look as elegant, but often things described as incredibly sophisticated and elegant do not always translate well to the screen, but it is a great compromise. I also quite liked how the Custodes decided to translate what her "little sister" was saying hehe.
It wouldn't surprise me if the Custodes decided on this matter on their own, or with backing of the current council on Terra set up by Guilliman, this is Segmentum Solar we are talking about after all and that's making them all a bit nervous, no matter how far away the tendrils still are.
Also, the Custodes have never been keen on the whole Primarch thing and do have the authority to overrule him (or at least think they do).
Weird, if Kryptman does it, he is a wicked excommunicated heretic. But if Guilliman does it he's a genius?
Also note that there is zero negative backlash that the first Custodes we see is a woman. Seems like those complaining don't hold any stake in the product at all.
Also note that there is zero negative backlash that the first Custodes we see is a woman
The announcement thread of the episode on Twitter is full of negative comments, with tones ranging from "polite disappointment" to "incoherent screeching rant", so I wouldn't say there is zero negative backlash (haven't checked Reddit yet).
Also note that there is zero negative backlash that the first Custodes we see is a woman
The announcement thread of the episode on Twitter is full of negative comments, with tones ranging from "polite disappointment" to "incoherent screeching rant", so I wouldn't say there is zero negative backlash (haven't checked Reddit yet).
Given that Twitter has devolved into a right-wing cesspit, I'm disinclined to take any of that seriously.
GiToRaZor wrote: Weird, if Kryptman does it, he is a wicked excommunicated heretic. But if Guilliman does it he's a genius?
Of course, Kryptman is just a human, Guilliman is a Primarch, that's one step down from literal God to the Imperium. This plan also likely has the backing of the High Lords of Terra and its to protect the central core of the Imperium. You basically cannot get higher sanction without the Emperor waking up to give it his blessing.
That doesn't mean there won't be fallout from it. Indeed there could be insane fallout even down to the point where the fire-wall creates a divided Imperium. Rather like that key world that united the two halves of the Imperium we are potentially once more seeing GW setting the seeds of the Imperium fragmenting being a potential thing that actually happens.
Also note that there is zero negative backlash that the first Custodes we see is a woman
The announcement thread of the episode on Twitter is full of negative comments, with tones ranging from "polite disappointment" to "incoherent screeching rant", so I wouldn't say there is zero negative backlash (haven't checked Reddit yet).
Given that Twitter has devolved into a right-wing cesspit, I'm disinclined to take any of that seriously.
Agreed, I wouldn’t trust these kind of comments on twitter not to be bots or reactionary groups deliberately “review bombing” anything that’s even vaguely progressive. Twitter has never been a pleasant place to read comments, but it’s gone so far down hill in the last 18 months that I fully expect that one day it will be distilled into a living oil slick and become the creature Armus from the episode of Star Trek where Tasha Yar gets killed.
The reaction on Facebook has been largely positive. Yes there have been one or two bemoaning the female custodes, but they are very few and far between.
GiToRaZor wrote: Weird, if Kryptman does it, he is a wicked excommunicated heretic. But if Guilliman does it he's a genius?
Of course, Kryptman is just a human, Guilliman is a Primarch, that's one step down from literal God to the Imperium. This plan also likely has the backing of the High Lords of Terra and its to protect the central core of the Imperium. You basically cannot get higher sanction without the Emperor waking up to give it his blessing.
That doesn't mean there won't be fallout from it. Indeed there could be insane fallout even down to the point where the fire-wall creates a divided Imperium. Rather like that key world that united the two halves of the Imperium we are potentially once more seeing GW setting the seeds of the Imperium fragmenting being a potential thing that actually happens.
Yep-the issue with what Kryptman did is that his scouring of planets was designed to force the Nids into Orkspace, where fighting between the two just made each stronger.
If Big G's firebreak ends up having the same or similar results, he'll be panned just as hard. If his fire break is positioned between the Hive Fleet's point of entry and the Imperium, and they have nowhere to go but back, he'll be praised. Right now, he's Schrodinger's Primarch: no one can praise or condemn until the observe the result.
I'm pretty sure that Kryptman's firebreak and his gambit (luring 'Nids to Octarius) were separate plans, albeit with both having the aim of buying the Imperium time to respond.
If Big G's firebreak ends up having the same or similar results, he'll be panned just as hard. If his fire break is positioned between the Hive Fleet's point of entry and the Imperium, and they have nowhere to go but back, he'll be praised. Right now, he's Schrodinger's Primarch: no one can praise or condemn until the observe the result.
The result will likely be the same. It slows down the Hive Fleet and buys IoM's time, but it isn't going to solve the problem by itself.
Although I do wonder if such plan means that Sanctum is lost.
The difference with Kryptman's plan is that he didn't clear it with anyone beforehand, and just did it. People are more annoyed with him supposedly 'exceeding his authority' than with the results of his actions.
Tyran wrote: Well he is an Inquisitor, they literally work on "Trust Me Bro" rules.
They still have limits though. They have the authority to condemn a world to death - a single world, one (1), not a whole bunch! At that point, at least a couple of High Lords need to sign off on it. Grimdark bureaucracy demands it.
Those limits aren't written in laws, but rather are the limits of each Inquisitor's political capital. Yes he technically excedded his authority, but the authority of an Inquisitor is a very nebulous thing that is often defined after the fact.
Kryptman had the political capital to condemn trillions of Imperial citizens and their worlds to death, but he didn't had enough political capital to survive the political fallout.
Given that everyone else appearing in The Tithe has been based on an existing model, what are the odds we'll get a miniature for the prodder-wielding Blackship attendant at some point?
Shakalooloo wrote: Given that everyone else appearing in The Tithe has been based on an existing model, what are the odds we'll get a miniature for the prodder-wielding Blackship attendant at some point?
I would give it 50/50 since it could be a mini made, sitting on the shelf to be released at some future undetermined. Would have been cool as part of sisters of silence release for 10th but I feel we missed out this round.
I'm glad to see that my assumption regarding female Custodes was correct: the sheer size and bulk of their armor hides any sort of feminine body shape. Makes my choice to just do head swaps work out fine.
Manfred von Drakken wrote: I'm glad to see that my assumption regarding female Custodes was correct: the sheer size and bulk of their armor hides any sort of feminine body shape. Makes my choice to just do head swaps work out fine.
Since Big E did such extensive body work on each Custodes I could see GW modeling each one as essentially genderless. Even when the character was in robes she didn’t have a feminine body shape. This also gives them a retcon gateway if they just say every one of his Custodes is made in a way that defies our natural biology.
I mean that was kind of always a thing for Custodes.
Astartes are mass produced thanks to geneseed and a "jobs a good un" deal but each Custodian is a work of art using science and bioalchemy lost to the rest of humanity, for a good reason as the Custodes show.
While Astartes are transhuman, they're still close to what many normal humans would be just extra while the Custodes are utterly beyond human. Rebuilt from the ground up to make them into something entirely new rather than just molded as an Astartes is.
It is actually kinda fitting that Custodes are so alien that calling them human is a vague term at best.
I mean if Custodes are made from infants of nobility and houses had given some of their daughters as "sons", Custodes may have not given a damn about it as they were only concerned that it was a healthy body, survived and noble houses obligations were met.
Heck, they should have gone really creepy with this line of thought: Master of Mankind guarded by abominations and crafted things that are farthest from humanity.
When I saw Bullet Tithe in brought back some fun old memories. I used to play an RPG called SLA Industries, which was basically about a media driven universe where televised mass murderers had to seek corporate sponsors in order to help cover their costs, including a Bullet Tax.
PenitentJake wrote: When I saw Bullet Tithe in brought back some fun old memories. I used to play an RPG called SLA Industries, which was basically about a media driven universe where televised mass murderers had to seek corporate sponsors in order to help cover their costs, including a Bullet Tax.
That got a second edition recently, with a lot of the skubby stuff excised apparently.
I love hearing about old obscure RPGs still kickin!
I should say obscure in Canada- I was also a HUGE fan of Kult by Metropolis games- Swedish I think. It's 2nd ed cleaned up mechanics... but also lost some of the edgier content that made the first edition utterly horrifying with the right group of people.
It was the best game I ever GMed at the convention level. I wish I had audio recordings of those sessions- they were that scary.
I should say obscure in Canada- I was also a HUGE fan of Kult by Metropolis games- Swedish I think. It's 2nd ed cleaned up mechanics... but also lost some of the edgier content that made the first edition utterly horrifying with the right group of people.
Third edition Kult is Powered By The Apocalypse, and that system still confuses the hell out of me. It has dialled the edgy content back up though, and the Kickstarter had to throw out an add-on featuring the art that had to be censored or cut from the retail version.
BrookM wrote: Damnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn, this was a good episode. Had a pair of awesome twists in there and hehe, both the Kasrkin and the Commissar do not feth around. 👌🏻
Yeah, all that plus actual dramatic camera angles and sound - or lack of it, in places - on the action scenes, and
PenitentJake wrote: Just ordered the Inquisitor and Noisebot. Haven't had a chance to watch this episode yet.
How exactly, as a subscriber it says I am able to order from today but there is no actual button to add it to cart on either the Warhammer +or GW store site?
PenitentJake wrote: Just ordered the Inquisitor and Noisebot. Haven't had a chance to watch this episode yet.
How exactly, as a subscriber it says I am able to order from today but there is no actual button to add it to cart on either the Warhammer +or GW store site?
Make sure you're actually logged into your account. It should then enable as long as you've paid for the annual subscription up front. If you're on monthly you have to wait until the end of the subscription.
Aye, am both logged in and have paid for my year in advance. I just get no actual purchase button on the site. Please excuse the pictures rather than screenshots I just do not log into GW via my phone:
Aye, am both logged in and have paid for my year in advance. I just get no actual purchase button on the site. Please excuse the pictures rather than screenshots I just do not log into GW via my phone:
The purchase button is there on last years minis:
i think it's an issue of when you subscribed. my initial subscription was in june of year 2, so i could order the current minis, but had to wait to get last year's until my subscription renewed. and now, i can order the year 3 minis (been forgetting to do so), but not the year 4, because my subscription was for the last subscription window. it's a bit annoying but i understand why it happens that way
You also need to log onto the Warhammer+ account and select which of the two you want for free. It should appear as an option when you sign in.
A few minutes after selecting the model you should be able to add it to your cart for free on the Warhammer store and pay for the second model is desired.
It's a fluffing archaic system of doing things, whoever designed this way of ordering the mini needs a few more lessons in interface design and whatnot, took me a while to figure out again as well.
I've been trying to order. After fething around a bit to select it on My Warahmmer, I was finally able to add it to my cart. But every time I go to Checkout, the page fails to load properly.
Whoever built their site needs to be drawn and quartered. Or at least sent back to web design class.
Manfred von Drakken wrote: I've been trying to order. After fething around a bit to select it on My Warahmmer, I was finally able to add it to my cart. But every time I go to Checkout, the page fails to load properly.
Whoever built their site needs to be drawn and quartered. Or at least sent back to web design class.
"back to web design class" implies they even had formal education on the subject to begin with. I'm not so sure.
For a company so focussed on making as much money as possible, they sure seem to want to make it difficult for customers to actually find and pay for their products through their own store..!
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: Gonna hold off ordering mine until there’s other stuff I want, to benefit from free shipping.
I believe the Warhammer+ minis come with free shipping if ordered on their own, I think when I added extra stuff to the order I then started getting charged for shipping until I reached the free shipping threshold.
I'm in a slightly annoying situation with the free miniature, at the end of year one I changed from monthly to yearly billing and rather than just charging me the yearly rate at my next renewal they refunded me for the last few days of monthly billing and charged me for the upcoming year, but it means my yearly billing date falls just a few days before the point it needs to to get the free mini straight away and I have to wait the year and pay for the next year to get the previous years free mini! Doesn't seem to be a way to switch back to monthly billing for a month to get the dates fixed and wary of cancelling and resubscribing in case that messes up the free mini.
Manfred von Drakken wrote: I've been trying to order. After fething around a bit to select it on My Warahmmer, I was finally able to add it to my cart. But every time I go to Checkout, the page fails to load properly.
Whoever built their site needs to be drawn and quartered. Or at least sent back to web design class.
Are you using mobile or computer? I have never been able to checkout on my phone at all, had to switch to my desktop. I think the website really hates phones. Nearly as much as it hates customers...
Usualy, the WH+ page has a button that takes you to the store page to get the model, but not this year. There was a form, and I'm too lazy to fill that in. Why couldn't they have pre-populated the field with my WH+ details? Lazy on them.
So, I opened WH.com store, searched for Inquisitor, as I was signed in it showed as being available, and picked it from there. Free postage to home, despite the low cost (of nothing ).
Manfred von Drakken wrote: I've been trying to order. After fething around a bit to select it on My Warahmmer, I was finally able to add it to my cart. But every time I go to Checkout, the page fails to load properly.
Whoever built their site needs to be drawn and quartered. Or at least sent back to web design class.
Are you using mobile or computer? I have never been able to checkout on my phone at all, had to switch to my desktop. I think the website really hates phones. Nearly as much as it hates customers...
Happens to me on both mobile and PC unless I have something else other than just the free model in my cart. Seems like it's borked only if you only want to order your free one and not both.
BrookM wrote: Damnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn, this was a good episode. Had a pair of awesome twists in there and hehe, both the Kasrkin and the Commissar do not feth around. 👌🏻
Yeah, all that plus actual dramatic camera angles and sound - or lack of it, in places - on the action scenes, and
Spoiler:
f-bombs, oh my
. More like this!
Not sure how I felt about the f-bombs, honestly.
While I'm not really clutching my pearls about it, and I'm all for leaning into more mature content, that vernacular kind of took me out of the setting. Particularly because its been so sparse in their printed media over the years where they use in-universe substitutes.
BrookM wrote: Damnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn, this was a good episode. Had a pair of awesome twists in there and hehe, both the Kasrkin and the Commissar do not feth around. 👌🏻
Yeah, all that plus actual dramatic camera angles and sound - or lack of it, in places - on the action scenes, and
Spoiler:
f-bombs, oh my
. More like this!
Not sure how I felt about the f-bombs, honestly.
While I'm not really clutching my pearls about it, and I'm all for leaning into more mature content, that vernacular kind of took me out of the setting. Particularly because its been so sparse in their printed media over the years where they use in-universe substitutes.
I’ve got mixed feelings as well. Normally it bugs me in PG-13 stuff, where people are in situations where a f-bomb is the appropriate response, they don’t use one. So it feels a little off. For shows/movies that just ignore that amd drop them with abandon, it just feels like a more honest portrayal.
But almost all 40k media has be sanitized down to a more family friendly rating for pretty much all of it’s life/content. So when we do get an F-bomb, it comes across as “that’s not very 40k” so he opposite of most other media for me.
BrookM wrote: Damnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn, this was a good episode. Had a pair of awesome twists in there and hehe, both the Kasrkin and the Commissar do not feth around. 👌🏻
Yeah, all that plus actual dramatic camera angles and sound - or lack of it, in places - on the action scenes, and
Spoiler:
f-bombs, oh my
. More like this!
Not sure how I felt about the f-bombs, honestly.
While I'm not really clutching my pearls about it, and I'm all for leaning into more mature content, that vernacular kind of took me out of the setting. Particularly because its been so sparse in their printed media over the years where they use in-universe substitutes.
I’ve got mixed feelings as well. Normally it bugs me in PG-13 stuff, where people are in situations where a f-bomb is the appropriate response, they don’t use one. So it feels a little off. For shows/movies that just ignore that amd drop them with abandon, it just feels like a more honest portrayal.
But almost all 40k media has be sanitized down to a more family friendly rating for pretty much all of it’s life/content. So when we do get an F-bomb, it comes across as “that’s not very 40k” so he opposite of most other media for me.
It’s weird.
Overall I did enjoy all of the tithe animations.
Yeah it’s like the F-bombs in the recent Star Trek offerings. They just don’t really suit the setting. Odd that they didn’t use “Feth.” Was another great episode though.
Are we getting more or is it just 3 episodes of this?
It's described on Warhammer Community as the final episode in at least two articles I've seen, so I think we're done. It's been well received though so who knows, they may do more.
BrookM wrote: Damnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn, this was a good episode. Had a pair of awesome twists in there and hehe, both the Kasrkin and the Commissar do not feth around. 👌🏻
Yeah, all that plus actual dramatic camera angles and sound - or lack of it, in places - on the action scenes, and
Spoiler:
f-bombs, oh my
. More like this!
Not sure how I felt about the f-bombs, honestly.
While I'm not really clutching my pearls about it, and I'm all for leaning into more mature content, that vernacular kind of took me out of the setting. Particularly because its been so sparse in their printed media over the years where they use in-universe substitutes.
I’ve got mixed feelings as well. Normally it bugs me in PG-13 stuff, where people are in situations where a f-bomb is the appropriate response, they don’t use one. So it feels a little off. For shows/movies that just ignore that amd drop them with abandon, it just feels like a more honest portrayal.
But almost all 40k media has be sanitized down to a more family friendly rating for pretty much all of it’s life/content. So when we do get an F-bomb, it comes across as “that’s not very 40k” so he opposite of most other media for me.
It’s weird.
Overall I did enjoy all of the tithe animations.
Yeah it’s like the F-bombs in the recent Star Trek offerings. They just don’t really suit the setting. Odd that they didn’t use “Feth.” Was another great episode though.
Are we getting more or is it just 3 episodes of this?
In theory, I'm fine with swearing in media. But I agree that one of the charms of the 40k setting is that it has a lexicon for various commonplace words that help to sell that it is not the same as our modern-day culture- vox for comms, recaf for coffee etc. Swearing is part of that, and 40k has several F-word equivalents already which very adequately convey the same vibe.
I have no doubt what kind of foul-mouthed soldier Lt Kage of the 13th Penal Legion is, because he uses "frag" like punctuation. Frak and Feth serve the same purpose (I'd say these are regional variants). It is clear that such words are equivalent to our modern-day swears.
I think something is lost when those are dropped in favour of the "real" swearword.
The Inquisitor is obviously popular-I got this email today:
We’re getting in touch today to let you know we are waiting for stock of your Warhammer+ Inquisitor Ostromandeus model to complete your order and we expect to receive these by the end of October at the latest.
Glad to see Warhammer+ warming up again!
