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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
How do?
Stinky linky https://io9.gizmodo.com/here-is-the-frankly-ridiculous-list-of-everything-comin-1839029260
It’s......it’s a lot?
You know in End Game, when the Avengers assemble, and Thanos’ face just sort of drops?
I think Disney May have just done that to Netflix...
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Post by: Turnip Jedi
maybe, might give it a whirl once they give up on drip feeding stuff to get stable opening subs, or offer a freeby month
although if you have wee ones the chance of avoiding it is deader than something very dead
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
There’s an awful, awful lot there. I genuinely had to stop scrolling, as the words no make sense after a while!
Early 2020 UK release window now confirmed, but awaiting specific date.
May book a week off to binge.
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Post by: LunarSol
Curious what % of all of that the single line of "The Simpsons" actually accounts for....
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Post by: timetowaste85
Holy gak...they have every Marvel cartoon that ever existed since the 1981 Spider-Man. I’m talking silver Surfer cartoon, Spider-Man animated series from 1994, Incredible Hulk cartoon...everything. Nothing got missed. I checked. It’s all there from day one. I’m...wow, that’s a lot to take in. So long Netflix. You were great. Time for your dirt nap.
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
Netflix, about to be Blockbuster’d.
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Post by: timetowaste85
Brie Larson is going to go crashing through it?
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Quite possibly!
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Post by: LunarSol
That's the plot of Captain Marvel 2.
EDIT: After giving it 10 seconds of thought, didn't this basically happen when the first movie was the first withheld from Netflix?
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Post by: Galef
Poetic considering Netflix killed Blockbuster in the first place (with a bit of help from RedBox)
I'll be canceling my Netflix this month, I think. I only got it to watch Stranger Things and the Dark Crystal. Both of those aren't likely to get another season til late next year.
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Post by: Overread
WAIT All the old cartoons? Darn I might actually watch all the Xmen for once! Without having to hunt down dvds.
Also in fairness Blockbuster killed itself - mostly because the US main wing thought that the idea of internet streaming was silly and not worth investment over their current model. I seem to recall that the UK and other regions tried to convince the main wing that streaming was a big part of the future.
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Post by: LunarSol
 Galef wrote:Poetic considering Netflix killed Blockbuster in the first place (with a bit of help from RedBox)
I'll be canceling my Netflix this month, I think. I only got it to watch Stranger Things and the Dark Crystal. Both of those aren't likely to get another season til late next year.
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The internet killed the radio star.
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
I’m wondering if a successful Disney+ might put others off their own streaming service?
I mean, Disney owns so, so much these days. Fox, Marvel, Lucasfilm, all their own stuff. Heck, they even own Nat Geo.
And as such, their platform has a near universal appeal thanks a ridiculous breadth of offerings - all for a pretty paltry monthly fee.
As discussed elsewhere, them going for Netflix’s jugular on price alone is a sod for would be competitors.
After all, what does say, Universal have to offer me that I’d pay the same price for? $7 a month, or $70 for the year.
Short answer? Not enough that I’m aware of. Which means, they realistically need to charge less. So one has to question at what price point such a service becomes unsustainable. Automatically Appended Next Post:  Overread wrote:WAIT All the old cartoons? Darn I might actually watch all the Xmen for once! Without having to hunt down dvds.
Also in fairness Blockbuster killed itself - mostly because the US main wing thought that the idea of internet streaming was silly and not worth investment over their current model. I seem to recall that the UK and other regions tried to convince the main wing that streaming was a big part of the future.
According to a FactFiend article, Blockbuster had a chance to buy Netflix!
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Post by: Overread
I think that we all knew streaming services would eventually whittle down to fewer services. We might see service mergers too and even a rise of middleman companies.
Subscribe to Digital TV and get Netflix, Amazon Prime (TV only) and Disney + all for *insert low low price*
If you get enough streaming services I can see that happening. I also can't see firms like Amazon or Netflix giving up, changing perhaps. Thing is seeing things like Carnival Road and Dark Crystal coming from these other streaming services actually benefits us as customers a lot.
Another thing that might happen is more short term contracts with people just rotating what they subscribe to in a given period. This might give rise to more "all in one" releases of TV series. so instead of teasing out each episode over months they upload the whole block in one go.
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
Thing is, the House of Mouse is better able to commission stuff as well.
So Netflix and Prime aren’t the only dogs in the yard.
For me, Netflix took off thanks to Daredevil. That’s when I really took it seriously, rather than as an archive of older shows, and odd US imports featuring bizarrely excitable people doing incredibly mundane things.
Prime will likely survive, as it’s a side benefit to free Amazon delivery etc, so already has unique selling points.
Still, Netflix are nothing if not innovative. Just hope they don’t compromise on already not very consistent quality just to get new offerings before the Gods of Ragnarok....
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Post by: bbb
The thing that will be interesting to see is what new content they will develop after they analyse what their customers have been streaming. There are shows that were only possible on Netflix because they saw what people watched and made content to capitalize on that. With as massive a catalog as Disney has I wonder what old properties will get revisited based on new info.
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Post by: creeping-deth87
I'm assuming that list is for the US only. I bet it'll only be half that up here in Canada.
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Post by: Jadenim
Overread wrote:Another thing that might happen is more short term contracts with people just rotating what they subscribe to in a given period. This might give rise to more "all in one" releases of TV series. so instead of teasing out each episode over months they upload the whole block in one go.
Actually I think it will drive companies the other way; they’ll want to spread things out as much as they can and have new series starting just as your current ones are finishing, to try and hook you in to paying for as many months of the year as they can.
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Post by: dyndraig
 creeping-deth87 wrote:I'm assuming that list is for the US only. I bet it'll only be half that up here in Canada.
If Netflix is anything to go by, us Euros are only get 20-40% of it.
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
So far as we know, it's a universal list.
Which makes sense, as compared to Netflix, the only person Disney is negotiating airing rights with is, well, Disney.
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Post by: Overread
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:So far as we know, it's a universal list.
Which makes sense, as compared to Netflix, the only person Disney is negotiating airing rights with is, well, Disney.
Eh companies can be all kinds of crazy stupid when it comes to regional stuff at times 
That said I agree it should, in theory, be easy for Disney as they hold iron cast rights to pretty much everything they get their hands on.
Plus most of the stuff on the list is already released in many territories in other formats, though a lot of the legacy stuff is well out of DVD production (or just very very niche).
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
Only issue I can see are existing deals for Disney channels on Satellite and Cable carriers.
But one imagines such broadcast rights are considered separate to Streaming Rights?
I mean there's a certain amount of guess work going on!
Consider WWE Network. Thanks to Sky, and by relation Dingo 'Ruins Everything' Wucker, we in the UK get Monday Night RAW etc exactly one month after it airs on Sky Sports - but we still get it, in the end.
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And there's definitely incentive for Disney+ to again one up Netflix over this very issue.
For one, it's easy enough to get round with IP spoofing and that (it has a technical term, but I'm not a technical person. Virtual Peer perhaps?).
For two? We know we get a Poor Man's Netflix here in the UK. Yes, we get the odd thing the US may not, but we still have a restricted menu.
Disney+ offering a universal playlist, with no regional exceptions, for the competitive price they've set? That's got massive appeal in the UK and Europe - and again, given it's to do with international rights, not something Netflix can copy in a great hurry - and certainly not without expense.
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Post by: Yodhrin
 Jadenim wrote: Overread wrote:Another thing that might happen is more short term contracts with people just rotating what they subscribe to in a given period. This might give rise to more "all in one" releases of TV series. so instead of teasing out each episode over months they upload the whole block in one go.
Actually I think it will drive companies the other way; they’ll want to spread things out as much as they can and have new series starting just as your current ones are finishing, to try and hook you in to paying for as many months of the year as they can.
They can do that if they want, it just means they go from getting a lot of folk's money for a couple of months a year to getting none of their money at all - their shows will get watched by those people either way.
Christ it's been twenty years since the internet went mainstream and these companies still haven't grasped that unless they manage to fundamentally change the nature of how the system operates they cannot prevent piracy. It's like governments who believe you can have encryption that can be broken on a whim by "good guys" like law enforcement that will also somehow remain secure against "bad guys" like criminals and foreign agents - tech literacy should be mandatory for anyone in any position of power and authority.
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Post by: Bran Dawri
Well, it's good to see the anemic selection on the test-run in the Netherlands was just for the test-run. I may cancel it a month late.
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Post by: Voss
Yeah, I'd say Disney wins this round.
But...
I'd like to see similarly formated lists for Netflix and Hulu. With the same spacing and ads eating space. It'd be interesting to see how they compare side by side.
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Post by: Slipspace
Voss wrote:Yeah, I'd say Disney wins this round.
But...
I'd like to see similarly formated lists for Netflix and Hulu. With the same spacing and ads eating space. It'd be interesting to see how they compare side by side.
^^^^This
That list is certainly long, but I'm not sure I'd call it impressive. It's a whole bunch of classic Disney films, which is nice I guess, some cartoons I don't particularly care for and the Marvel/Star Wars stuff alongside an indeterminate amount of new, original content. I'm not really seeing what people are getting so excited about, or why they're surprised at what's on it.
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Post by: Hollow
^This. The problem Disney has is its super family-friendly image and reluctance to go for more adult themes. This is where Netflix will dominate. So where are we at in terms of existing streaming and new streaming services?
We currently have
Netflix
Amazon
Hulu
With
Disney
Apple
Peacock
HBO Max
on the way...
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Post by: Riquende
Hard pass, thanks.
I'm assuming the Mandalorian will be available on all good *ahem* sites in the usual way.
You know, like all those classic cartoons people are suddenly excited for have been for a decade.
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
Some peeps disagree with digital piracy though.
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Post by: Yodhrin
Then they can cough up or miss out.
The reality of the matter is boycotting as traditionally conceived doesn't really work in modern capitalism; the same trends and tech that allows niche products to find an audience and remain profitable also enable non-niche products to maximise their audience to the extent that purposeful and public witholding of purchases doesn't really make a dent, and can even inspire counter-protests based on perceived ideological concerns that negate them entirely(I knew someone who went to see TLJ - a film they thought was "okay" - seven times in the cinema purely to spite people who disliked the movie, because they'd bought in to the narrative that the only people who disliked it were hateful bigots).
The options these days are pay whatever is being asked, don't pay and don't watch, or pirate either in the expectation of later buying a home media release or just as a middle finger. If someone is unwilling to pirate and unwilling to pay, they've eliminated all their options and just have to deal with it.
 Hollow wrote:^This. The problem Disney has is its super family-friendly image and reluctance to go for more adult themes. This is where Netflix will dominate. So where are we at in terms of existing streaming and new streaming services?
We currently have
Netflix
Amazon
Hulu
With
Disney
Apple
Peacock
HBO Max
on the way...
What's missing in that characterisation is the fact that Disney owns FX and has a majority controlling stake in Hulu - sure, you're not going to find anything gritty on Disney+, but Disney still have both network and streaming avenues to produce and distribute "mature" content, so there's every chance they'll be able to hump Netflix in that arena as well. Also you forgot CBS All Access(although that's understandable, hah).
I just don't think this many services are sustainable, especially if too many of them try to switch back to the weekly schedule setup rather than the binge format. The reason TV piracy took off in the first place was the ludicrous state of cable/satellite TV with its hundreds of channels largely filled with guff and reruns where you were expected to pay through the nose for additional subscriptions to get the good stuff, if they replicate that scenario with online streaming, which they seem to be, what happened with Game of Thrones(ie good shows will be both wildly successful commercially, and also heavily pirated, and bad shows will blame their lack of commercial success on piracy despite the ample evidence that good stuff still makes money no matter how many people "steal" it) will just be the norm for everything again.
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Post by: Deadshot
I plan to subscribe just to watch Spider-Man 1994 series. Plus, all the MCU films and shows and Star Wars. Holy GAK that's an impressive lineup. The mouse flexes its muscles again.
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Post by: Alpharius
If they do the 'all episodes available at launch' thing, I'll just sign up, watch all that I want in that month, and then drop out until there's another batch of stuff worth watching.
At $7 (to start), should be the way to go.
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Post by: Hulksmash
I did the deal for 3 years for an average of around 4 dollars a month. It'll be well worth it.
I'm not going to go out and pirate and run around to find things I'm going to watch. Not for less than 2 hours pay for 3 years. No judgement on those that do. Just not worth it.
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
I’m mainly signing up for the MCU and Star Wars content.
Spidey cartoons are added bonus. And being able to give me details to God Sprog is another bonus.
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Post by: Alpharius
LOLWUT MDG?
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Post by: Azreal13
Allow me to translate into legible English..
"Being able to let my god child have my login details is another bonus."
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Although of course, assuming the UK will ever be able to sign up is pure speculation at this point.
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Confirmed launch window of 2020 for us, date to be confirmed,
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Post by: Lance845
I think the big thing with the initial launch is that it's all Disney owned. Netflix, on launch, had product they paid to use for a period of time. It wasn't for YEARS that they began to produce their own content. And their own content in it's entirety is still NOTHING compared to Disney's day 1 launch.
Where Netflix still pays many for the right to distribute on their service, Disney stands to never pay anyone a single red cent and all of their product will be available all the time if they so choose it.
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Post by: Azreal13
That's not a window, it's a fething hanger door.
There are some potentially very sticky licence issues with Sky in the UK, which is why we aren't getting it with the rest of Europe, and while that content's fate remains in the hands of another broadcaster with their own opinions on what constitutes what's best for them (ie a gakload of money to relinquish it) I'll expect it when I see it.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Damn that's a while away. We get it in a few weeks.
But on the bright side, Inhumans will be available at launch.
*throws up*
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
That’s not a bright side you nitwit!
Advantage as I see it is at least I can then binge The Mandalorian in one sitting. Like a 10 hour Star Wars movie!
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Post by: Alpharius
That's the joke?
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Advantage as I see it is at least I can then binge The Mandalorian in one sitting. Like a 10 hour Star Wars movie!
Isn't all of the content available at launch in the USA Nov (x) anyway?
Ala the 'Netflix' model?
Or is Disney+ parsing it out like 'network TV'?
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
Episodic from what I’ve read.
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Post by: Alpharius
I hadn't heard that...
I suppose it would cynically make sense so as to avoid the "one and done" bingers but..that really wouldn't make much sense once the series was released?
Odd that they're not releasing all episodes at once. We'll see if they stick to that model...
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Yeah they don't want everyone binging their stuff.
It's coming out week to week. If that means they keep the week to week for the places getting it later, well, that'll just drive up piracy.
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Post by: Alpharius
Yeah, I just researched it - ALL of their new 'series' will be 'week to week'.
Curious to see if they do indeed keep it 'week to week' for those areas that are getting in months later - that would be madness.
But not too surprising!
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Post by: LunarSol
I've been appreciating the episodic release schedule a bit more as of late. There's a bit more conversation around shows released that way. I feel like the binge drops just hit this weird "spoiler suppression" since most people can't hope to watch a show that fast and by the time the general public has caught up, people have just kind of flushed the thing from their minds. Netflix has a pretty happy medium going with Voltron. It binge dropped seasons but the seasons were really short with multiple released over the year.
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Post by: Azreal13
The really big caveat, which seems to have been missed, is the * that says "not all content will be available in all territories."
Which could mean that UK subscribers won't get access to stuff that Sky or Netflix have streaming/broadcast rights to, it might even mean that we will only get Ep1 of the new shows being aired episodically on day of release and have to wait every week to catch up like it was still the 1990s.
Which makes the assertion that The Mandalorian is about to break GoT "most pirated show" record look very likely.
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
There is that. But then, I can still cope with episodic 
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Post by: Galef
IMO, it's very smart of Disney to release episodes in the traditional week-to-week manor. I got Netflix for like a month, binge watched Stranger Things and Dark Crystal and was done. Canceled my subscription afterward (though mainly because Disney+ is coming). I'll sign up again next year for there new season, then cancel
Disney+, however seems to have a strategy to keep people paying every month
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
 Azreal13 wrote:Which makes the assertion that The Mandalorian is about to break GoT "most pirated show" record look very likely.
That's my fear.
You weren't one of the few territories that had D+ when this show launched? Sucks to be you! Enjoy being months behind!
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Post by: Voss
Galef wrote:IMO, it's very smart of Disney to release episodes in the traditional week-to-week manor. I got Netflix for like a month, binge watched Stranger Things and Dark Crystal and was done. Canceled my subscription afterward (though mainly because Disney+ is coming). I'll sign up again next year for there new season, then cancel
Disney+, however seems to have a strategy to keep people paying every month
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Nothing really stops anyone from waiting, going on a binge, and repeating.
You don't get there 'first' but... whatever.
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Post by: Baragash
Hollow wrote:^This. The problem Disney has is its super family-friendly image and reluctance to go for more adult themes. This is where Netflix will dominate. So where are we at in terms of existing streaming and new streaming services?
We currently have
Netflix
Amazon
Hulu
With
Disney
Apple
Peacock
HBO Max
on the way...
And BritBox. BBC and ITV have been withdrawing all their content as the agreements expire and all their stuff will be launching through a joint venture next year. So no more British stuff for me. That's mainly going to harm Netflix and Amazon.
Disney+ launching may harm Stan here in Oz, I only got that to have the Disney stuff for my kids (Marvel a bonus lol), so that'll be switched out for Disney+, and it's hardly a loss (Black Sails, Last Ship, Stargate and a bunch of moderate Aussie series, plus I think they'll take a hit from BritBox too).
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Galef wrote:IMO, it's very smart of Disney to release episodes in the traditional week-to-week manor. I got Netflix for like a month, binge watched Stranger Things and Dark Crystal and was done. Canceled my subscription afterward (though mainly because Disney+ is coming). I'll sign up again next year for there new season, then cancel Disney+, however seems to have a strategy to keep people paying every month
I wouldn't say it's about people paying every month. They're banking on people taking the (stupidly discounted) yearly subscriptions anyway. Week-to-week releases keep people talking. After the release of a Stranger Things season are people still talking about it a fortnight later? Compare that to something like Game of Thrones, where the buzz could last up to 10+ weeks at a time. Disney's doing traditional releases because they want people talking about their new service over months of time, not a few weeks of time.
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
I’m probably gonna sign up for the year. Saving is nice, and ‘just getting it out of the way’ is also nice.
Is anyone else looking forward to the Kurt Russell College films too?
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Post by: Yodhrin
Voss wrote: Galef wrote:IMO, it's very smart of Disney to release episodes in the traditional week-to-week manor. I got Netflix for like a month, binge watched Stranger Things and Dark Crystal and was done. Canceled my subscription afterward (though mainly because Disney+ is coming). I'll sign up again next year for there new season, then cancel
Disney+, however seems to have a strategy to keep people paying every month
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Nothing really stops anyone from waiting, going on a binge, and repeating.
You don't get there 'first' but... whatever.
Or, you know, watching it weekly as released and paying Disney nothing at all.
Episodic TV as a sales strategy stopped making sense when most people's home internet became capable of downloading a show in a fraction of the time it takes to watch it.
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Post by: reds8n
https://www.bleedingcool.com/2019/11/12/disney-has-chance-to-fix-star-wars-han-greedo-scene-for-disney-makes-it-worse-instead/
The technical difficulties plaguing the launch day of Disney’s new Disney+ streaming service aren’t the biggest controversy of the day, and neither is the fact that the service does not feature the original Muppet Babies cartoon (even though that should be all people are talking about). Instead, the biggest and probably strangest decision Disney made for the service was to once again edit the Star Wars scene between Han Solo and bounty hunter Greedo at the Mos Eisley Cantina.
In the original cut of the film, Han clearly fires his blaster first at Greedo, killing him before Greedo can get off a single shot. In George Lucas’s 1997 Special Edition version, which features many questionable changes and additions to the Star Wars films, Greedo fires at Han first, with Han CGIed to dodge the shot before firing back at Greedo and killing him. This was changed for the film’s 2004 DVD release to show both characters firing at roughly the same time, and though this one is thematically superior to Greedo shooting first, it may be the jankiest-looking of all the edits. The scene was further altered for the Blu-Ray release in 2011, though both characters still fire at the same time.
The changes have been widely decried by fandom because, unlike arbitrarily adding in unnecessary CGI objects as most of the other edits consisted of, this one fundamentally changes Han’s character from morally ambiguous to heroic. The “Han Shot First” meme is one of the most well-known in Star Wars fandom and pop culture in general. Every time a new version of the film is released, it’s an opportunity to set things back to the way they originally were and the way fans seem to prefer it, and another opportunity was presented with Disney+’s version of the film. Alas, it’s an opportunity Disney failed to capitalize on, though they couldn’t resist putting their own touch on the scene.
In the new version, Han and Greedo still shoot at the same time, but this time, for some reason, we @#$% you not, Greedo appears to shout “Maclunkey!” while doing it. No, seriously.
see : https://twitter.com/ericfell/status/1194180485129199619
Why? And also, why? And furthermore, @#$%ing why? We may never know, just as we may never know what exactly “Maclunkey” means in Rodian since no subtitles are included for this exclamation. Our best guess is that the phrase translates roughly to “Disney, you had the chance to fix this bizarre mistake that’s been plaguing Star Wars for decades, but instead you chose to make it worse by adding an unnecessary line of dialog that opens the edit up to even more ridicule. For shame, for shame. To make matters worse, you did not include Muppet Babies in the Disney+ streaming lineup, even though you own Fox now so there should be no issues with all those scenes from Star Wars and Indiana Jones. Truly, this is a missed opportunity that you should attempt to rectify at your earliest convenience.” It does sound more elegant in the native tongue though.
Disney+ is available now if their servers are working for you, but personally, we’re not signing up until they add Muppet Babies to the lineup.
what. a. time.to.be.alive.
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Post by: LunarSol
And I thought I needed popcorn to watch all the movies....
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Post by: Lance845
Lmao. Thats great.
I am enjoying disney + and i am still waiting for a blu ray with the theatrical cuts of 4 5 and 6 before i buy any of them.
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Post by: LunarSol
The problem has always been that there's enough improvements people take for granted in the films that the theatrical cuts aren't strictly better. I think we're all just waiting for the day where a choose your own edit is available.
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 LunarSol wrote:The problem has always been that there's enough improvements people take for granted in the films that the theatrical cuts aren't strictly better. I think we're all just waiting for the day where a choose your own edit is available.
If you have to pick between having the expanded/extra scenes for good or for il or the theatrical i will leave them all behind. Just put in the remastered colors/images and sound and let us watch the original movies with the modern quality.
I really don't need those cgi aliens singing or crappy cgi jabba or crappy cgi dinosaurs, or any of that crap.
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Post by: Frazzled
Except there are those of us who have no interest in the cookie cutter stuff the House of Mouse produces.
Star Wars is dead to me. Comic book movies are cartoons, only rarely interested.
If they put on shows like The Terror, Mindhunter, Marianne, or Mrs. Maisel then I might be interested.
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Post by: Hordini
Saw the "new" Greedo and Han scene. I don't know why Disney can't just return it to the original theatrical cut of the scene. Maybe someday they will. The constant changing every time a new version is released is just garbage. The only way to make the scene better is to return it to the original theatrical version.
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Post by: petrov27
Agreed - the latest edit to the "Han shot" scene is really strange to say the least - I just do not understand why they felt the need to mess with it yet again and in such a weird way. Must be just to generate attention and get more folks watching?
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Post by: Hordini
petrov27 wrote:Agreed - the latest edit to the "Han shot" scene is really strange to say the least - I just do not understand why they felt the need to mess with it yet again and in such a weird way. Must be just to generate attention and get more folks watching?
I think they'd get more people watching if they changed it back to the theatrical cut too. I read today that George Lucas might have actually changed it when developing the 4k version prior to selling Star Wars to Disney, and the 4k version is the one that is getting streamed. Not sure if that's 100% accurate but that's one theory at least.
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
General question - is this service Ad free?
Only I understand the Mando episodes are 40 minutes.
I guess that could be with an eye to terrestrial rights in the future, but wanted to check.
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Post by: LunarSol
No ads that I can see.
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Post by: Galef
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:General question - is this service Ad free?
Only I understand the Mando episodes are 40 minutes.
I guess that could be with an eye to terrestrial rights in the future, but wanted to check.
So far it seems Ad free to me. Saw the Mandalorian and several episodes of Gargoyles so far with no ads
EDIT: Now that I think about it, given that Disney makes a ton of money on merch and Disney Parks, I'd have to change my answer to YES, yes there are Ads. Everything Disney+ streams is an Ad.
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Post by: Kalamadea
One article I read had the reason for the added Greedo yell: George Lucas added it as part of his tweaks for the 4K conversion before he sold everything to Disney, but it was never actually released in 4K until now. Disney just left it as-is from what they received. *sigh*
At least Gargoyles is on there, I watched it on TV when I could but I've never seen the series in it's entirety, especially the later seasons. It was always stupid-expensive to get the DVDs any time I remembered to check for them, makes it worth D+ just for that
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Post by: Galef
 Kalamadea wrote:At least Gargoyles is on there, I watched it on TV when I could but I've never seen the series in it's entirety, especially the later seasons. It was always stupid-expensive to get the DVDs any time I remembered to check for them, makes it worth D+ just for that
Yeah I was pretty excited to see that on D+. That plus Rebels, Clone Wars & The Mandalorian is worth the $7 per month alone
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Post by: Paradigm
Does it have the Lost Missions Clone Wars episodes (what would have been season 6?). Might be the first time those actually get a UK release if they're on there.
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Post by: Galef
 Paradigm wrote:Does it have the Lost Missions Clone Wars episodes (what would have been season 6?). Might be the first time those actually get a UK release if they're on there.
I'll have to check, but I would assume so. There's a new season that is supposed to premium in 2020
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petrov27 wrote:Agreed - the latest edit to the "Han shot" scene is really strange to say the least - I just do not understand why they felt the need to mess with it yet again and in such a weird way. Must be just to generate attention and get more folks watching?
The worst part is that the first edit to the scene was done solely because one of Lucas' adopted children said that Han wouldn't shoot first because he was a "good guy". Ignore an entire film's worth of growth, we'll do some nice revisionist history instead.
I always thought Lucas was a hack, this just cemented it for me. Makes me ashamed to have the same last name... Automatically Appended Next Post: Oh, and having the service on the 7 day trial is awesome. There are no ads and the content is stellar.
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Post by: Chillreaper
Paradigm wrote:Does it have the Lost Missions Clone Wars episodes (what would have been season 6?). Might be the first time those actually get a UK release if they're on there.
We've already got it on Disney Life.
Although, prior to that I did make use of alternate channels to watch it.
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Post by: Voss
Galef wrote: Paradigm wrote:Does it have the Lost Missions Clone Wars episodes (what would have been season 6?). Might be the first time those actually get a UK release if they're on there.
I'll have to check, but I would assume so. There's a new season that is supposed to premium in 2020
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Do you actually mean premiere, or are you suggesting there will be a higher-cost version of the subscription service?
The way things are these days, I can't tell.
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Voss wrote: Galef wrote: Paradigm wrote:Does it have the Lost Missions Clone Wars episodes (what would have been season 6?). Might be the first time those actually get a UK release if they're on there.
I'll have to check, but I would assume so. There's a new season that is supposed to premium in 2020 -
Do you actually mean premiere, or are you suggesting there will be a higher-cost version of the subscription service? The way things are these days, I can't tell.
No, I did mean premiere. I work in insurance, so I type the word premium often enough that my fingers must have gone on auto-pilot -
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Post by: Just Tony
So it looks like the Wifey is sold on going ahead and making our Disney+ a permanent thing. I'm elated.
Also, finally got around to seeing Captain Marvel since it is something I could only see streaming with the kidlets not around as Joy is reticent that the MCU is far too violent. I sincerely don't see ANY of the bad things that people claim about this movie. Maria Rambeau came off more wooden than Danvers, and Danvers was brainwashed.
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
I thoroughly enjoyed Captain Marvel. Just nice little touches, and Ben Mendhelson is superb.
Sadly, honest criticism was lost beneath a flood of incel drivel, having a go because the woman expressed an opinion.
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Post by: StraightSilver
I am loving this show so far (up to Episode 2).
I wanted to say more but can't work out how to put spoiler tags, lol.
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Post by: Just Tony
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:I thoroughly enjoyed Captain Marvel. Just nice little touches, and Ben Mendhelson is superb.
Sadly, honest criticism was lost beneath a flood of incel drivel, having a go because the woman expressed an opinion.
Oh, don't get me wrong, Brie's diatribes were a little... problematic at times. I don't pin it on malice, I pin it on enthusiasm.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Finally launched in Oz. Will work out how to get it working soon... [EDIT]:And I have Disney+. First thing I did was start up the 90's X-Men, just to hear the theme. 
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 H.B.M.C. wrote:Finally launched in Oz.
Will work out how to get it working soon...
[EDIT]:And I have Disney+.
First thing I did was start up the 90's X-Men, just to hear the theme.
A man after my own heart I just gotta figure out how to get my Samsung TV to download the Disney+ app
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
The amount of stuff here is kinda overwhelming.
Wait... I can watch Aladdin, Darkwing Duck and Clone Wars whenever I want?
This is silly...
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Post by: AduroT
H.B.M.C. wrote:Finally launched in Oz.
Will work out how to get it working soon...
[EDIT]:And I have Disney+.
First thing I did was start up the 90's X-Men, just to hear the theme.
The allegedly stolen theme!
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
 Baragash wrote: H.B.M.C. wrote:Finally launched in Oz.
Will work out how to get it working soon...
[EDIT]:And I have Disney+.
First thing I did was start up the 90's X-Men, just to hear the theme.
A man after my own heart I just gotta figure out how to get my Samsung TV to download the Disney+ app
Have you tried kicking it?
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Post by: Baragash
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: Baragash wrote: H.B.M.C. wrote:Finally launched in Oz.
Will work out how to get it working soon...
[EDIT]:And I have Disney+.
First thing I did was start up the 90's X-Men, just to hear the theme.
A man after my own heart I just gotta figure out how to get my Samsung TV to download the Disney+ app
Have you tried kicking it?
I was getting there After switching it on and off a few times the app eventually appeared, well into S2 of the X-men cartoon now 
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So Jelly.
This is almost certainly punishment for our former Imperialist Ways!
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
I watched Iron Man for no other reason than I could.
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Kalamadea wrote:At least Gargoyles is on there, I watched it on TV when I could but I've never seen the series in it's entirety, especially the later seasons. It was always stupid-expensive to get the DVDs any time I remembered to check for them, makes it worth D+ just for that
Awesome, I did not notice that was on it! I am in the exact same boat when it comes to not having been able to catch the entire series, and now I know where my weekend is going to end up going...
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Post by: timetowaste85
I already own the Iron Man DVD’s, F4, X-Men and everything else they sold. Time to put it all up for sale. I certainly don’t need it anymore. More importantly, I can watch Earth’s Mightiest Heroes whenever I want now!!
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Post by: LunarSol
Baragash wrote:
I was getting there After switching it on and off a few times the app eventually appeared, well into S2 of the X-men cartoon now
Some fun recollections there. I was all prepared to have to tolerate Jubilee but she's actually one of the least irritating kid avatar characters in old cartoons. That Morph guy though.... man, how did I stomach this show with him around.... oh, right....
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Post by: Alpharius
HBMC - when it launched for you were all episodes of The Mandalorian available or or they trying to make it ‘weekly’ for you?
Or did it release at a point when it didn’t matter?
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
 Alpharius wrote:HBMC - when it launched for you were all episodes of The Mandalorian available or or they trying to make it ‘weekly’ for you?
Both released episodes were already there.
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Post by: Baragash
Minor irritation that neither the Samsung TV app or the iDevice apps appear to have a continue watching/automatically tee up the next episode function like other streaming services.
There is a nice little category at the bottom of the Marvel section which has all the cartoons and MCU films together in chronological release order.
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Post by: Lance845
Seems they already patched some of the issues.
Continue watching now picks up on your last episode where you left off. It tees up the next episode. And it asks you if you want to continue watching/stops incase you fell alseep watching gak
Most of the quality of life features are now in. Quick turn around for that.
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Post by: Baragash
 Lance845 wrote:Seems they already patched some of the issues.
Continue watching now picks up on your last episode where you left off. It tees up the next episode. And it asks you if you want to continue watching/stops incase you fell alseep watching gak
Most of the quality of life features are now in. Quick turn around for that.
Yep, the only thing I haven’t noticed/would like is a Continue Watching list like Netflix have instead of having to go to a watch list/search/memorise where something’s listed.
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Post by: Lance845
Baragash wrote: Lance845 wrote:Seems they already patched some of the issues. Continue watching now picks up on your last episode where you left off. It tees up the next episode. And it asks you if you want to continue watching/stops incase you fell alseep watching gak Most of the quality of life features are now in. Quick turn around for that.
Yep, the only thing I haven’t noticed/would like is a Continue Watching list like Netflix have instead of having to go to a watch list/search/memorise where something’s listed.
Yeah, either in the side tab or at the top where they put the Disney, Marvel, NatGeo etc etc... Once they do that Disney Plus might even have a better set up than Netflix and move to the top spot.
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
Bright side to having to wait, hopefully all these issues will be fixed.
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Post by: bbb
I started watching Star Wars Rebels, but then my bro-in-law said I should start by chronologically watching Clone Wars, THEN watch Rebels. So I've started to watch Clone Wars, but man, it's not the most compelling show.
Can anyone who's watched all of Clone Wars comment on if it's worth it?
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
Yes. Yes it is.
Much like it's predecessor Rebels, it takes a season to really find its feet - and the episode release order wasn't chronological, which left me scratching my head a bit. The recommended viewing order can be found here
You don't have to watch them in that order, but I feel it will enhance things somewhat.
But do stick with it. It adds so much to that period, and cues up quite a bit of stuff in Rebels and the OT.
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Post by: bbb
Thanks, I'll keep giving it a shot for now.
Besides the not yet compelling aspect of the show for me right now, the other thing that I'm having an issue with is getting behind the clone troopers. They're portrayed as the good guys, but they're not really. Right? It just feels weird. I get that we should be cheering on the Jedi, but when the republic army and space fleet will go on to be the bad guys, then I feel like I'm just watching it to know what happens.
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Post by: Galef
Yeah, prior to Disney buying Star Wars, Clone Wars was basically what kept SW moving in the right direction.
IMO, the Clone Wars made the prequel era FEEL like Star Wars. Once you get past the first season, the bulk of the show is great, with only a few "filler" episodes
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Particularly season 3-5. They really ramp things up with those ones.
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Post by: Easy E
The first season and a half was probably my favorite Super Hero stuff around..... then it fell off a cliff in quality for the last half of season 2.
Darkwing Duck, Chip and Dale's Rescue Rangers, DuckTales, Tailspin..... I am sorely tempted. Am I the only one in the world who really wanted to play a Tailspin PNP RPG?
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Post by: bbb
 Easy E wrote: Am I the only one in the world who really wanted to play a Tailspin PNP RPG?
Wouldn't that essentially be Crimson Skies? Which they never made an RPG for as far as I know... thereby making this comment pointless... d'oh...
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Post by: Captain Joystick
 bbb wrote:Besides the not yet compelling aspect of the show for me right now, the other thing that I'm having an issue with is getting behind the clone troopers. They're portrayed as the good guys, but they're not really. Right? It just feels weird. I get that we should be cheering on the Jedi, but when the republic army and space fleet will go on to be the bad guys, then I feel like I'm just watching it to know what happens.
At the risk of skirting too close to spoilers, allow yourself to root for the clones. Many of the show's standout episodes follow their triumphs and troubles with nary a Jedi in sight.
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Post by: Yodhrin
bbb wrote:I started watching Star Wars Rebels, but then my bro-in-law said I should start by chronologically watching Clone Wars, THEN watch Rebels. So I've started to watch Clone Wars, but man, it's not the most compelling show.
Can anyone who's watched all of Clone Wars comment on if it's worth it?
Are you watching it in broadcast or chronological order? I highly recommend the latter, the first few seasons are extremely disjointed - there are lists around to follow.
bbb wrote:Thanks, I'll keep giving it a shot for now.
Besides the not yet compelling aspect of the show for me right now, the other thing that I'm having an issue with is getting behind the clone troopers. They're portrayed as the good guys, but they're not really. Right? It just feels weird. I get that we should be cheering on the Jedi, but when the republic army and space fleet will go on to be the bad guys, then I feel like I'm just watching it to know what happens.
They very much start out with the feel of Ra-Ra-Onward The Republic! propaganda newsreels, which is why you get that old timey newsreader style for the "recap" at the beginning of each episode. Over the run of the show it does a very good job of presenting everyone as both culpable in their own way, and victims of Palpatine's manipulations. Like Joystick says some of the best arcs end up being Trooper stories, and some of them get pretty dark for a kids show.
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Also does a stellar job of showing Anakin’s downward spiral, and why Jedi should be peace keepers and not soldiers.
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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Also does a stellar job of showing Anakin’s downward spiral, and why Jedi should be peace keepers and not soldiers.
Not just Anakin's downward spiral, but we really get to see Anakin as a heroic figure, not a whiny creeper.
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Galef wrote: Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Also does a stellar job of showing Anakin’s downward spiral, and why Jedi should be peace keepers and not soldiers.
Not just Anakin's downward spiral, but we really get to see Anakin as a heroic figure, not a whiny creeper.
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And a teriffic pilot, and a genuine charmer, and a good friend!
All with a little hint of a dark side.
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Post by: Voss
Galef wrote:Yeah, prior to Disney buying Star Wars, Clone Wars was basically what kept SW moving in the right direction.
IMO, the Clone Wars made the prequel era FEEL like Star Wars. Once you get past the first season, the bulk of the show is great, with only a few "filler" episodes
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One problem that doesn't help that they viewing order got randomly shuffled (and I don't know if Disney+ corrects that or even warns of it).
Though there are few bat-guano crazy episodes as you go deeper in:
The weird-squirrel alien pacifists that somehow they try to paint as evil and victims simultaneously, and the leader who insists that outsiders trying to help them makes them guilty.
And all the Force Demigods nonsense. Those are eminently skippable, for being completely off theme, giving away the plot of the films to the characters, and being pants-on-head stupid.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
bbb wrote:Can anyone who's watched all of Clone Wars comment on if it's worth it?
Yes. Clone Wars is a schizophrenic show that spent it's first 3 seasons vacillating wildly between kids show and adult show. It had real trouble figuring out its tone, and it took a while to get to the much darker show it was by the end. But, despite this, it was still mostly great from start to finish. And speaking of "start to finish", the first three seasons of Clone Wars are intentionally out of order. The first episode is actually the 16th episode of the 2nd Season. Here's the proper order. Then there's Rebels, which starts of as near unwatchable ( IMO), being even more kidified than Clone Wars ever was. That all changes when Tarkin and the Grand Inquisitor show up. It's like someone flips a switch. Voss wrote:One problem that doesn't help that they viewing order got randomly shuffled (and I don't know if Disney+ corrects that or even warns of it).
It wasn't randomly shuffled. That's the way it was produced. I watched it week to week when it was airing for the first time, and that's just the way they chose to do it. I haven't the faintest clue why - maybe they were just making the stories that interested them most - but yeah, it makes for some odd time and location jumps.
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Post by: Voss
Wow, that's so much worse.
Some of those episodes are direct continuations of each other (like the sequence with the Bounty Hunter and the Hutt rescue), and those are chopped up out of order to a crazy degree.
If some idiot produced messed around and caused problems, that's one thing, but if it was deliberate, that's just awful storytelling.
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Thanks, guys. I'll keep plugging away at it for now.
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Post by: LunarSol
H.B.M.C. wrote:
Then there's Rebels, which starts of as near unwatchable ( IMO), being even more kidified than Clone Wars ever was. That all changes when Tarkin and the Grand Inquisitor show up. It's like someone flips a switch.
It's pretty baffling how much the Inquisitor changes up that whole series. The season 1 finale really shows what they're capable of, even if that kind of peaks with the season 2 finale.
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
Indeed. Rebels did have a pretty ropey start in terms of plots. Possibly because it was our first (new) canonical vision of how the Rebel Alliance formed.
So having a scrappy handful, vs 'no we're actually really, really well organised' felt a wee bit jarring.
But when it gets good? It. Gets. GOOD.
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Post by: Baragash
Lance845 wrote: Baragash wrote: Lance845 wrote:Seems they already patched some of the issues.
Continue watching now picks up on your last episode where you left off. It tees up the next episode. And it asks you if you want to continue watching/stops incase you fell alseep watching gak
Most of the quality of life features are now in. Quick turn around for that.
Yep, the only thing I haven’t noticed/would like is a Continue Watching list like Netflix have instead of having to go to a watch list/search/memorise where something’s listed.
Yeah, either in the side tab or at the top where they put the Disney, Marvel, NatGeo etc etc...
Once they do that Disney Plus might even have a better set up than Netflix and move to the top spot.
Continue Watching section is a go
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Post by: BrianDavion
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Indeed. Rebels did have a pretty ropey start in terms of plots. Possibly because it was our first (new) canonical vision of how the Rebel Alliance formed.
So having a scrappy handful, vs 'no we're actually really, really well organised' felt a wee bit jarring.
But when it gets good? It. Gets. GOOD.
but to REALLY get rebels you definatly wanna have watched clone wars. as some characters, including ones who might suprise you, show up in early season 2 and are regularly reoccuring characters. SW rebels is effectively the "sequal" series to clone wars
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Baragash wrote: Lance845 wrote: Baragash wrote: Lance845 wrote:Seems they already patched some of the issues.
Continue watching now picks up on your last episode where you left off. It tees up the next episode. And it asks you if you want to continue watching/stops incase you fell alseep watching gak
Most of the quality of life features are now in. Quick turn around for that.
Yep, the only thing I haven’t noticed/would like is a Continue Watching list like Netflix have instead of having to go to a watch list/search/memorise where something’s listed.
Yeah, either in the side tab or at the top where they put the Disney, Marvel, NatGeo etc etc...
Once they do that Disney Plus might even have a better set up than Netflix and move to the top spot.
Continue Watching section is a go
Yup, just saw that today. Way to fix every issue in 2 weeks Disney. Anyone got any interface complaints anymore? I can't think of any.
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Post by: BobtheInquisitor
Please, someone who has subscribed, answer me this question: does Disney plus have the two Ewok movies?
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Post by: Lance845
No Ewok adventures yet. Or the animated droids series.
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
Now coming to the UK a week earlier,.
£5.99 per month or £59.99 for a year.
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Excellent. Im glad you guys can join in the conversation. There are a good amount of shows to watch on there worth watching. The release of new content that i am directly excited for is a little slow atm. But the upcoming slate of marvel content is what i am most excited for.
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
Having just introduce God Sprog to Movie Night, I’ll definitely be mining lots of value out of this!
First up? Book off launch day and binge The Mando.
Then, The Computer Wore Tennis Shoes, and The Strongest Boy In The World. Haven’t seen those in years!
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And yes. I’ve marked my territory when it comes to introducing Wilf to Star Wars!
Think I might do them in numerical order...
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Post by: Lance845
I would not. Episodes 1 2 3 ruin several things for 4 5 6. Who and what yoda is gets spoiled in empire along with vaders identity. The emperor. What exactly bens connection with other jedi is. Alot of the mystery and intrigue of the originals goes right down the tubes.
1 2 3 really add nothing of value and take a lot away. That obi wan is a jedi becomes painfully obvious when you realize hes been hiding on tatooine in his uniform.
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Post by: Overread
I have to agree- starwars is something best viewed in theatre release order not numerical. It's not alone in this either. The Narnia stories are the same, You don't want to read the "first" book because it basically spoils so much of what you get in discovery in the Lion the Witch and Wardrobe.
ALSO MAKE DARN SURE you either find the originals or cut out the whole greedo shoots first bit! (I'd also say cut out the jabba the Hutt bit because freaking heck whoever did that never saw the original Jabba the Hutt!)
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Post by: Captain Joystick
Honestly, is MacKlunky going to bother anyone who hasn't seen the originals before? The Jabba scene is more egregious because it covers the same backstory points for Han as the Greedo scene (and Greedo is in it, skulking around in the background!)
That said, I'll be That Guy and recommend the Machette order: 4, 5, 2, 3, 6. You establish Luke, Vader, the two best twists in Star Wars, all that. Then you flash back to the prequels and establish who the Emperor is properly and why he needs to die, and organically come back to RotJ with a slightly older, wiser Luke.
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The greedo scene changes are super minor overall. But the jabba scene does to rotj what the prequels do to the orig trig. It ruins the surprise of jabba. You hear about him in 4 but dont actually see him till 6. The shock of the giant wierd slug man is great.
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Post by: LunarSol
I kind of like the Jabba scene, mostly because Ford is great in it. Also, I'll be totally honest; when I was a kid I never appreciated Han's story because I didn't catch the Jabba through line. Putting a face to the name makes it easier to appreciate Han's paranoia throughout ANH and Empire.
On a side note, modern day SW would have a field day with Han never getting the money to Jabba in the vague time jump between 4 and 5.
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Honestly I always got the impression he just spent it on Alliance stuff and staying alive once he threw his lot in with them. Esp as at the start of Empire Strikes Back the Falcon is in repair. Clearly times were "good" for the Alliance at the end of A New Hope, but had taken a drastic turn for the worse. Chances are losing a whole planet likely lost them a lot of local allies and finances and left them having to scrounge and run. Through the whole of Strikes Back the core Alliance wing we see is basically on the run until the very end.
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Overread wrote:Honestly I always got the impression he just spent it on Alliance stuff and staying alive once he threw his lot in with them. Esp as at the start of Empire Strikes Back the Falcon is in repair. Clearly times were "good" for the Alliance at the end of A New Hope, but had taken a drastic turn for the worse. Chances are losing a whole planet likely lost them a lot of local allies and finances and left them having to scrounge and run. Through the whole of Strikes Back the core Alliance wing we see is basically on the run until the very end.
I agree, I've just become accustomed to people losing their mind unless its explained to them.
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Apparently the junior novelizations (both the pre and post Disney versions) say the rebels paid him in rare metals used to repair ships. Seems reasonable that he gave it back.
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LunarSol wrote: Overread wrote:Honestly I always got the impression he just spent it on Alliance stuff and staying alive once he threw his lot in with them. Esp as at the start of Empire Strikes Back the Falcon is in repair. Clearly times were "good" for the Alliance at the end of A New Hope, but had taken a drastic turn for the worse. Chances are losing a whole planet likely lost them a lot of local allies and finances and left them having to scrounge and run. Through the whole of Strikes Back the core Alliance wing we see is basically on the run until the very end.
I agree, I've just become accustomed to people losing their mind unless its explained to them.
that's because it's true, everytime a new movie comes out and they don't baby walk the audiance through something they call it a plot hole.
"I don't think that means what you think it means" comes to mind
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The bring that up and then NEVER explain what it means! 
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Could be worse. Could be ‘fan service’ as an inexplicable criticism?
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About four and bit weeks to go until we get it in the U.K.
That’ll learn us for the colonial era.
Anyways. For those that’ve been there since Day One, do you feel your still getting your monies worth each month? Has Disney+ supplanted your previous main provider of telly goodness?
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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:About four and bit weeks to go until we get it in the U.K.
That’ll learn us for the colonial era.
Anyways. For those that’ve been there since Day One, do you feel your still getting your monies worth each month? Has Disney+ supplanted your previous main provider of telly goodness?
Im probably 60% netflix 40% d+ atm.
Disney plus has a lot of good movies and old shows worth watching. New stuff keeps showing up but not at crazy rates and not all of it peeks my interest. That being said, I don't have kids. So someone with kids is probably getting much higher mileage out of it.
I am eagerly awaiting the marvel shows.
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Post by: LunarSol
The question is "is it worth it past Mandalorian" I assume.
The answer is.... kinda? It feels very much like any service in a lull period. If I find a show I missed, I suddenly use it a lot, but there's nothing demanding my attention so I have to go looking for something.
I have subscriptions to Netflix, Disney, Funimation, and Amazon. My daughter actually prefers the Netflix options at the moment, so that gets the most play time even if I don't personally use it very often (not since Dragon Prince?). Funimation doesn't have a TON of shows I'm into this season beyond MHA, and Crisis Protocol has me in a Marvel mood so I've been catching Earth's Mightiest Heroes and random MCU flicks for painting motivation. Prime is honestly mostly for renting movies more than anything, though I did like Tick and the Boys. Nothing on it is why I pay for it.
Anyway, Disney+ currently is definitely a luxury more than anything. It's really, really convenient to be able to flip on any of the Star Wars, Marvel, or Princess films on the fly and there's some lovely nostalgia trips in the likes of Gargoyles, Darkwing Duck, and the FOX Marvel shows. It's also really good for catching some outstanding shows that have been hiding on the Disney channel like Gravity Falls, the new Duck Tales, and Clone Wars/Rebels.
So, if you put in the effort to find things to watch, its great. If you are in it to consume new releases, its not going to satisfy.
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Post by: Voss
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:About four and bit weeks to go until we get it in the U.K.
That’ll learn us for the colonial era.
Anyways. For those that’ve been there since Day One, do you feel your still getting your monies worth each month? Has Disney+ supplanted your previous main provider of telly goodness?
I did the free trial at the end of the year. Watched Mando (it was...ok), watched SW Rebels (I stopped catching episodes after the first five when it was on TV), poked at a couple other things, decided I didn't care, and cancelled before I got charged.
Don't feel like I'm missing out on anything. But then, my 'main provider of telly goodness' is nothing (which, not coincidentally, is the amount of 'goodness' I find on telly) and/or youtube. The sub services have no power over me, because they just don't produce things I want to watch. Or I got to the Castle beyond the Goblin City before midnight. Either/or.
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Disney+ now has Willow up to watch. All other arguments are invalid.
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Post by: Baragash
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:About four and bit weeks to go until we get it in the U.K.
That’ll learn us for the colonial era.
Anyways. For those that’ve been there since Day One, do you feel your still getting your monies worth each month? Has Disney+ supplanted your previous main provider of telly goodness?
Whilst there's obviously some stuff on there I want to watch, it's as much for the kids benefit as mine, so even though I'm not really using it now I binged all the stuff I was excited for, the household overall is getting their money's worth.
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 Just Tony wrote:Disney+ now has Willow up to watch. All other arguments are invalid.
The DVD of Willow was extremely affordable.
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Just Tony wrote:Disney+ now has Willow up to watch. All other arguments are invalid.
Other than the Brownies taunting Val Kilmer, it doesn't have anything to offer as a film.
And I'm pretty sure I can find those clips on youtube.
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Post by: Just Tony
BobtheInquisitor wrote: Just Tony wrote:Disney+ now has Willow up to watch. All other arguments are invalid.
The DVD of Willow was extremely affordable.
Voss wrote: Just Tony wrote:Disney+ now has Willow up to watch. All other arguments are invalid.
Other than the Brownies taunting Val Kilmer, it doesn't have anything to offer as a film.
And I'm pretty sure I can find those clips on youtube.
So what color do I need to make my texts to display obvious playful sarcasm?
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Post by: BobtheInquisitor
Green?
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Post by: Voss
Just Tony wrote:
So what color do I need to make my texts to display obvious playful sarcasm?
No colors, just actual sarcasm that isn't indistinguishable from being a True Fan.
Internet sarcasm just doesn't work when there are people who will say the exact same thing with 100% sincerity.
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
Is Willow poorly thought of?
I’ve always rather enjoyed it. Spesh the battle scenes which for its time are actually pretty damned good?
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Post by: Lance845
Mad Martigan is one of the great characters in classic fantasy movies.
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Post by: BobtheInquisitor
I though Willow was generally well-regraded, liked more than loved.
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
Indeed.
I’m currently assuming there’s some kind of meme or equivalent in joke I’ve entirely missed.
Don’t get me wrong, if you didn’t enjoy it, as ever fair enough.
But Willow as a joke? First time I’ve encountered.
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Post by: Overread
I think Willow is a bit like Legends and a few others of that era - its fallen out of the Christmas Films bracket so it tends to get forgotten about by many. So whilst it was well loved and many still love it; many also forget about it as well.
It's certainly very well done and very enjoyable. Plus kids aren't as fussy as geeky adults when it comes to visual effects. They don't need it to be the latest CGI, it just has to be well made.
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Post by: BobtheInquisitor
Story is what makes effects work. It doesn’t matter how cheesy the stop motion skeletons look if the audience is invested. By the same token, the flashiest CGI robots in the world lack luster when seen in a glorified Mountain Dew commercial.
With characters like Willow, Madmartigan, Razelle and Bavmorda, who draw the audience in, Willow works. It’s no Krull, but it works.
:p
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Clone Wars is back on D+.
The show looks amazing.
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Post by: Turnip Jedi
 BobtheInquisitor wrote:Story is what makes effects work. It doesn’t matter how cheesy the stop motion skeletons look if the audience is invested. By the same token, the flashiest CGI robots in the world lack luster when seen in a glorified Mountain Dew commercial.
With characters like Willow, Madmartigan, Razelle and Bavmorda, who draw the audience in, Willow works. It’s no Krull, but it works.
:p
and unlike Krull they let the purty lady keep her own voice ! (of all the wackadoddle going on in Krull they thought an English accent might a be problem...)
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Post by: BobtheInquisitor
I assume that decision was made by some Weinstein-level producer A-hole. If I recall, that poor actress took it hard and basically lost her career for a decade.
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Post by: MarkNorfolk
Nothing wrong with Willow.
The relative delay in the D+ UK launch, combined with the fact that I already have a fair chunk of Marvel, Star Wars and Pixar on DVD/Blu-ray has resulted in my eagerness for it to wain. Why pay to watch Iron Man when I want when I can watch Iron Man when I want. I'm not that desperate to see The Cat from Outer Space.
I'm starting to wonder when The Mandalorian is out on DVD...
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Post by: Azreal13
It has been heavily implied that it'll still be a weekly release in the UK, so don't expect a home version for a few months, even if it's on sale in other countries.
Has the Clone Wars landed in a lump, or is that being drip fed too?
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Post by: Lance845
Drip Fed. Episode 1 is on there now.
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Post by: AegisGrimm
Sweet to hear about Willow! Along with Dark Crystal and Labyrinth, it's another great classic to show my kids that I never got around to getting on DVD. Just hearing it's on Plus makes me want to play it tomorrow!
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
When these get home releases... don't you mean if?
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
Well, signed up for 12 months. Special offer price of £49.99, so I figured it worth it. )
Now to wait 28 days or so!
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Post by: Trondheim
Well here in Norway we will not Get Disney+ for quite some time. So in for a long wait
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Post by: MarkNorfolk
Well, seeing as the only thing I'm interested in is The Mandalorian, and nothing else it looks like we're going to pass on this, and reconsider when the Marvel TV shows hit.
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Post by: balmong7
MarkNorfolk wrote:Well, seeing as the only thing I'm interested in is The Mandalorian, and nothing else it looks like we're going to pass on this, and reconsider when the Marvel TV shows hit.
The animated Clone Wars is getting a second season right now. I would also recommend the Imagineering Story documentary about the people who design the rides for the theme parks. It was really good.
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Post by: Lance845
The Nat Geo offerings are currently a little disappointing considering the volume and quality of the nature docos on netflix. But I suspect Disney will step up that game over the next year or so.
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
Anyone in the U.K. been able to find the App yet?
Have tried Apple. Samsung and LG devices so far, and no joy.
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Post by: Azreal13
Have you tried tomorrow?
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Post by: Chillreaper
Nothing on Amazon, either.
I always assumed that the apps would appear a good few days early, but it looks like we're waiting until tomorrow.
Then, another 24-48 hours until a couple of updates come to make it work...
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
In theory, being Johnny Come Lately, we won’t need to worry about kinks and that?
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Post by: Azreal13
Technical bugs with the app that are so severe to cause it to not work are unlikely, but I've still got reservations about infrastructure, given prevailing conditions.
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
It’s Tuesday, it’s 6:20am.....it’s not Crackerjack, but it is The Mandolorian!
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Post by: Chillreaper
It's alive!
ALIVE!
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
Two episodes of the Mando. It’s pretty damned fine! Lack of dialogue is rather fun.
Now crashing through Treehouse of Horrors.
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
Man, the timing here couldn’t have been better.
See, my normal working day starts around 5:30am when my alarm goes off, and ends around 6:30pm when my commute ends. Sure I’m not working all of those hours (8-4 are though), but it’s still a massive chunk of my week where I can’t really do owt except get up, wash, travel and work.
Now? Working From Home. I can tip out of bed around 7:50am, and still be logged in in plenty of time.
Pre-Coronavirus, that’d mean some afternoon pubbage. Get half cut by half eight, and still home in good time for a shower and good night’s sleep.
But not now. Now I’ve got loads of time on my hand, and precious little to do with it. Except explore a whole new Streaming Service.
[rubbish east end accent]
Gawd bless you, Disney+
[/rubbish east end accent]
So good is it, that I bought a second sub for a bunch of single parents I know currently stuck at home looking after multiple kids. Because my resources are far less finite than their sanity.
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Post by: timetowaste85
Got a message earlier, Disney+ is getting Rise of Skywalker on Star Wars Day. Aka May 4th.
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