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Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/04 15:50:17


Post by: beast_gts






You are invited to the Big Summer Warhammer Preview on 18th July




The email has the 40k, 30k, TOW, LI, Underworlds, KT & AoS logos.


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/04 15:53:16


Post by: streetsamurai


Chaos Dwarves incoming it seems


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/04 15:53:16


Post by: beast_gts


EDIT


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/04 15:53:22


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Chaos Dwarfs. Big hats am best hats. So therefore Naughty Stunties.


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/04 15:54:06


Post by: beast_gts


 streetsamurai wrote:
Chaos Dwarves incoming it seems
Or James is trolling us...


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/04 15:56:16


Post by: Inquisitor Gideon


Nah, we've known Chaos Dwarves have been coming for AoS for a long time now.


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/04 16:00:33


Post by: The Phazer


TOW will be interesting, simply because we have so little idea of what's coming next. We can speculate that Kislev and Norsca are due at some point, but it seems unlikely they're going to jump to putting out three entirely new armies in nine months or so.

The preview video makes it pretty clear that the AOS Chaos Dwarf reveal will happen. Heresy will presumably be full reveals of some of the stuff they already mentioned. I suspect Custodes are too far out.

40k will be the new marines.


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/04 16:07:57


Post by: Dryaktylus


Looking at the hats:

*Deathwatch
*White Scars
*Thousand Sons or Khemri
*?
*Chaos Dwarfs/Duardins
*?
*Harlequins
*Freebooterz (maybe Kill Team with Harlequins?)
*?


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/04 16:12:38


Post by: Dysartes


beast_gts wrote:
The email has the 40k, 30k, TOW, LI, Underworlds, KT & AoS logos.

...then why the frak didn't they put that info in the WarCom article?


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/04 16:13:25


Post by: BorderCountess


The pirate hat could indicate Dark Eldar. But yeah, Chaos Dwarves all but confirmed.


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/04 16:15:16


Post by: beast_gts


 Dysartes wrote:
beast_gts wrote:
The email has the 40k, 30k, TOW, LI, Underworlds, KT & AoS logos.

...then why the frak didn't they put that info in the WarCom article?


Because they're idiots - they're also individual images so I can't just link to it...



Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/04 16:20:31


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Yay! Legions Imperialis!


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/04 16:20:54


Post by: Overread


Wait which hat is the Tyranid hat? They gotta have hats right? RIGHT?!


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/04 16:21:23


Post by: streetsamurai


Really happy that the CoD are supposedly Golems heavy. I always thought it would be a great theme for them (was a huge Warlord Battlecry fan back in the days), even if it could be a bit controversial (small, dark, evil humanoids with crooked noses who loves money and have golems).


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/04 16:22:46


Post by: Mentlegen324


Maybe not every hat is meant to be a hint, but with them saying at least 6 games being shown, they could be. I think the first 3 are implying Deathwatch (obvious), Leagues of Votann (astronaut hat) and Tomb Kings, but I have no idea about the rest really. Maybe Dark Eldar for the pirate hat?

Especially no idea about what the Top hats and the other historical ones could be.


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/04 16:23:22


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


 Overread wrote:
Wait which hat is the Tyranid hat? They gotta have hats right? RIGHT?!


In Soviet Hivemind, hat wears you!


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/04 16:33:26


Post by: Inquisitor Gideon


 Mentlegen324 wrote:
Maybe not every hat is meant to be a hint, but with them saying at least 6 games being shown, they could be. I think the first 3 are implying Deathwatch (obvious), Leagues of Votann (astronaut hat) and Tomb Kings, but I have no idea about the rest really. Maybe Dark Eldar for the pirate hat?

Especially no idea about what the Top hats and the other historical ones could be.


Dark Eldar seems logical considering that Lady Malys leak a while back.


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/04 16:38:48


Post by: Shakalooloo


 Mentlegen324 wrote:
Maybe not every hat is meant to be a hint, but with them saying at least 6 games being shown, they could be. I think the first 3 are implying Deathwatch (obvious), Leagues of Votann (astronaut hat) and Tomb Kings, but I have no idea about the rest really. Maybe Dark Eldar for the pirate hat?

Especially no idea about what the Top hats and the other historical ones could be.


I think they were just putting on every hat they had in their houses, no real hints other than being hats.


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/04 16:47:58


Post by: nathan2004


Thousands sons have already been revealed so is this the start of army books for old world I wonder? All core factions are released.

Also 7 pm? Is that British time zone or what? If you have global reach you really should specify what time zone you’re referring to.


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/04 16:52:19


Post by: Dryaktylus


 nathan2004 wrote:
Thousands sons have already been revealed so is this the start of army books for old world I wonder? All core factions are released.

Also 7 pm? Is that British time zone or what? If you have global reach you really should specify what time zone you’re referring to.


They did.



Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/04 17:18:27


Post by: The Phazer


 Mentlegen324 wrote:
Maybe not every hat is meant to be a hint, but with them saying at least 6 games being shown, they could be. I think the first 3 are implying Deathwatch (obvious), Leagues of Votann (astronaut hat) and Tomb Kings, but I have no idea about the rest really. Maybe Dark Eldar for the pirate hat?

Especially no idea about what the Top hats and the other historical ones could be.


I think the top hat was literally just a big hat = Chaos Dwarf joke.

The others do make me wonder if it's a Vampire Coast or (another) Witch Hunter Underworlds team.


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/04 17:23:09


Post by: Mentlegen324


 Shakalooloo wrote:
 Mentlegen324 wrote:
Maybe not every hat is meant to be a hint, but with them saying at least 6 games being shown, they could be. I think the first 3 are implying Deathwatch (obvious), Leagues of Votann (astronaut hat) and Tomb Kings, but I have no idea about the rest really. Maybe Dark Eldar for the pirate hat?

Especially no idea about what the Top hats and the other historical ones could be.


I think they were just putting on every hat they had in their houses, no real hints other than being hats.


I doubt that it wasn't something planned in advance but rather they just coincidentally happened to own all these novelty hats .


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/04 17:33:05


Post by: SamusDrake


Okay, I would have said House Catallus for Necromunda but I'll go with a Harlequins kill team.

Not bothered at this point but a Molech book for Legions Imperialis, and a new Armigers kit, would be all I'd hope for. A trailer for either Warhammer Quest or Space Hulk is long overdue as these previews have been stuck in wargame edition churn for far too long...


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/04 17:37:03


Post by: Billicus


Well I won't be watching the show but I'll certainly look at the photos and read a thing or two about it afterwards.


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/04 18:32:11


Post by: soviet13


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
In Soviet Hivemind, hat wears you!


How dare you



;-)


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/04 19:19:02


Post by: Dysartes


beast_gts wrote:
 Dysartes wrote:
beast_gts wrote:
The email has the 40k, 30k, TOW, LI, Underworlds, KT & AoS logos.

...then why the frak didn't they put that info in the WarCom article?


Because they're idiots - they're also individual images so I can't just link to it...

Thanks for providing a screenshot.


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/04 19:20:46


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


soviet13 wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
In Soviet Hivemind, hat wears you!


How dare you



;-)


How dare I?

I never asked you to perch (admittedly gently and with respect) atop my bonce!


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/04 19:31:08


Post by: Thargrim


Was hoping for Kislev but that tomb kings hat kinda killed the hype, maybe they will loop around and update models for the existing factions first.


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/04 19:32:01


Post by: Overread


Cathay isn't even all out the gate yet; way too soon for Kislev


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/04 19:35:54


Post by: soviet13


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
soviet13 wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
In Soviet Hivemind, hat wears you!


How dare you



;-)


How dare I?

I never asked you to perch (admittedly gently and with respect) atop my bonce!


You asked with your eyes


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/04 19:53:39


Post by: lord_blackfang


Onboard for chorfs!


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/04 20:45:32


Post by: lost_lilliputian


Got temporarily excited for a moment when I saw the Egyptian hat, thought it might have been for a Tomb Kings Blood Bowl team.

I saw the video before I saw the logos of what games would be previewed. Meaning Blood Bowl won't be included. Oh well.

Looking forward to the Chaos Dwarves anyway and the rest, should be a good reveal.


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/04 21:47:47


Post by: Waaagh_Gonads


Only problem for me is Chorfs for AOS.

Put them in the old world where they belong.




Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/04 21:50:31


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


soviet13 wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
soviet13 wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
In Soviet Hivemind, hat wears you!


How dare you



;-)


How dare I?

I never asked you to perch (admittedly gently and with respect) atop my bonce!


You asked with your eyes


What eyes? You think a man with sight and senses can churn out *my* level of drivel?

How very, very dare you sir!


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/05 00:54:38


Post by: Thargrim


 Waaagh_Gonads wrote:
Only problem for me is Chorfs for AOS.

Put them in the old world where they belong.




Chorfs for Old World would've been an easy buy for me. I think putting them into AoS will be a miscalculation on GWs part. They'll probably be a lot more extreme looking than they are in Total Warhammer 3.


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/05 04:01:25


Post by: legionaires


After 25+ years my wait for plastic Chaos Dwarves may finally be coming to an end.


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/05 05:14:15


Post by: Olthannon


I'm guessing CDs in AoS is their big 10 year reveal. But why? Would make far more sense in Old World instead.



Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/05 08:00:01


Post by: Overread


Because that project was likely started way before Old World and the teams fought over them.



Also AoS is SUPPOSED to be steam-punk age. It's not really there all that much but its supposed to be in that era whilst Old World is earlier. Steam stuff is all over the lore from BL with factions like Cities of Sigmar, Skaven and such but gameplay wise on the tabletop Skaven are unchanged and Cities have not really got any big steam stuff going on as yet besides Cog Forts which don't have a model.


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/05 08:13:42


Post by: Shakalooloo


Looking forward to plastic blunderbusses that don't just have a big, flat circle at one end!


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/05 09:22:27


Post by: Geifer


I'd like to be enthusiastic about the Egyptian hat, but GW has yet to prove they're willing and able to do anything worthwhile with Tomb Kings. Come on, GW. I dare you to surprise me!


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/05 09:32:07


Post by: Overread


Considering how many hats there were and how big a choff release would be I'm predicting

1) Hats were only hinting at Chaos Dwarves and everything else is just a smokescreen

2) Other Old World factions get a leader model only.


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/05 10:12:17


Post by: The Black Adder


Unless the tomb king or pirate hats relate to a surprising old world release I can't see there being a lot revealed for the game this soon after Cathay. There's a second Cathay journal to release, so maybe we'll see that previewed, but GW have already started that won't come with any models that haven't already been shown (so just the dragon). Of course if the chaos dwarf release has significant overlap with the old world list I can see a lot of old world players being excited by the release regardless.

If be really excited for both a tomb king range refresh or a pirate/ vampirate old world release but I'm not going to get my hopes up


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/05 10:28:46


Post by: Vorian


The Egyptian hat could well be hinting at the Necrons in the Deathwatch vs Necrons box for kill team


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/05 11:45:26


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Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/05 12:01:01


Post by: Mentlegen324


 Overread wrote:
Because that project was likely started way before Old World and the teams fought over them.



Also AoS is SUPPOSED to be steam-punk age. It's not really there all that much but its supposed to be in that era whilst Old World is earlier. Steam stuff is all over the lore from BL with factions like Cities of Sigmar, Skaven and such but gameplay wise on the tabletop Skaven are unchanged and Cities have not really got any big steam stuff going on as yet besides Cog Forts which don't have a model.


I think this is something that will mean they sort of loose some of their theming, in a way.With WHF/TOW, them having sort of more technologically advanced than other factions with all their steam engines and warmachines and such was an interesting contrast. With Age of Sigmar...that sort of thing would no longer be special, because the rest have them too. And i'm not sure what they could do with it to differentiate from the Kharadron Overlord steampunk theme, really.


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/05 12:09:06


Post by: Geifer


 Mentlegen324 wrote:
 Overread wrote:
Because that project was likely started way before Old World and the teams fought over them.



Also AoS is SUPPOSED to be steam-punk age. It's not really there all that much but its supposed to be in that era whilst Old World is earlier. Steam stuff is all over the lore from BL with factions like Cities of Sigmar, Skaven and such but gameplay wise on the tabletop Skaven are unchanged and Cities have not really got any big steam stuff going on as yet besides Cog Forts which don't have a model.


I think this is something that will mean they sort of loose some of their theming, in a way.With WHF/TOW, them having sort of more technologically advanced than other factions with all their steam engines and warmachines and such was an interesting contrast. With Age of Sigmar...that sort of thing would no longer be special, because the rest have them too. And i'm not sure what they could do with it to differentiate from the Kharadron Overlord steampunk theme, really.


Just off the top of my head since Chaos Dwarfs are an evil faction GW has the option of leaning into daemon engines and slaves, where the former is their variety of high technology and the latter gives an otherwise elite army the option for cheap troops and possibly a sacrifice mechanic if they're so inclined.


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/05 12:15:09


Post by: Dryaktylus


 Mentlegen324 wrote:
 Overread wrote:
Because that project was likely started way before Old World and the teams fought over them.



Also AoS is SUPPOSED to be steam-punk age. It's not really there all that much but its supposed to be in that era whilst Old World is earlier. Steam stuff is all over the lore from BL with factions like Cities of Sigmar, Skaven and such but gameplay wise on the tabletop Skaven are unchanged and Cities have not really got any big steam stuff going on as yet besides Cog Forts which don't have a model.


I think this is something that will mean they sort of loose some of their theming, in a way.With WHF/TOW, them having sort of more technologically advanced than other factions with all their steam engines and warmachines and such was an interesting contrast. With Age of Sigmar...that sort of thing would no longer be special, because the rest have them too. And i'm not sure what they could do with it to differentiate from the Kharadron Overlord steampunk theme, really.


Daemon engines, mutations, Hobgrots and human cultists, burrowing machines instead of airships, magic... I think there are some possibilities.


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/05 12:25:07


Post by: Scrub


Chalk up another excited customer hoping to catch a glimpse of the long rumoured Evil Beardy Boys! (Hopefully they do the old Forgeworld kits justice)

Beyond that, can't wait to see what GW do with Old World next.
Thrilled with the Cathay models and hopefully we'll see Dark Elves returned to the fold with maybe a hint towards Kislev for this time next year?


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/05 12:26:52


Post by: Overread


I'd love to see GW make a firm choice on Dark Elves.

Retire the model line; move them to Old World; give them an army book in AoS - DO SOMETHING GW

It's crazy to me that they've got what is basically an entire army sitting in limbo for 10 years.


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/05 12:52:20


Post by: Mentlegen324


 Dryaktylus wrote:
 Mentlegen324 wrote:
 Overread wrote:
Because that project was likely started way before Old World and the teams fought over them.



Also AoS is SUPPOSED to be steam-punk age. It's not really there all that much but its supposed to be in that era whilst Old World is earlier. Steam stuff is all over the lore from BL with factions like Cities of Sigmar, Skaven and such but gameplay wise on the tabletop Skaven are unchanged and Cities have not really got any big steam stuff going on as yet besides Cog Forts which don't have a model.


I think this is something that will mean they sort of loose some of their theming, in a way.With WHF/TOW, them having sort of more technologically advanced than other factions with all their steam engines and warmachines and such was an interesting contrast. With Age of Sigmar...that sort of thing would no longer be special, because the rest have them too. And i'm not sure what they could do with it to differentiate from the Kharadron Overlord steampunk theme, really.


Daemon engines, mutations, Hobgrots and human cultists, burrowing machines instead of airships, magic... I think there are some possibilities.


I think they'd need to be a new theming that sets them apart from WHF to a significant extent, not just the same sort of elements they had again. Skaven haven't been much of a change from their original version but the rest have been a big departure to make them something brand new and unique that they couldn't have before.


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/05 13:12:13


Post by: Porsenna


Could the pirate hat be more eldar corsairs?


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/05 13:19:13


Post by: Scrub


 Overread wrote:
I'd love to see GW make a firm choice on Dark Elves.

Retire the model line; move them to Old World; give them an army book in AoS - DO SOMETHING GW

It's crazy to me that they've got what is basically an entire army sitting in limbo for 10 years.


It's an inevitability imo. All other flavours of Elves are back in the fold, Dark Elves have some iconic and still decent looking plastic kits. If Beastmen and Wood Elves, along with Tomb Kings and High Elves can make the cut (with some of the derpiest looking kits around) then purely from a plastics perspective the Dark Elves are an absolute shoo-in I would have thought.



Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/05 14:23:28


Post by: nathan2004


Porsenna wrote:
Could the pirate hat be more eldar corsairs?


Vampire coasts for the old world FTW!


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/05 14:50:55


Post by: Inquisitor Gideon


Pirate hat will be Dark Eldar. It's been enough time since that leak.


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/05 15:30:20


Post by: Fayric


Dogs of war for the old world would account for many hats, right?

Would be fun if the chorfs are (just) a wacky underworlds release


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/05 15:31:05


Post by: His Master's Voice


 Overread wrote:
I'd love to see GW make a firm choice on Dark Elves.

Retire the model line; move them to Old World; give them an army book in AoS - DO SOMETHING GW

It's crazy to me that they've got what is basically an entire army sitting in limbo for 10 years.


I wouldn't expect any movement on that front until GW cycles back to CoS and decides if they want to keep the dwarf and elf components of the faction going forward.

That, or they finally let Malerion out of Ulgu.


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/05 15:38:09


Post by: Overread


I'm convinced Malerion is like Exodites. That faction that's 100% part of the game lore; that gets referenced, spoken of and hinted at, but which never appears beyond a token model (which has now also vanished from sale).

A carrot ghost that GW dangles before us that will never be satisfied.


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/05 16:39:08


Post by: His Master's Voice


He controls one of the Eight Realms in its entirety. That's about as far from the irrelevance of Exodites as you can get.


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/05 16:44:29


Post by: Overread


 His Master's Voice wrote:
He controls one of the Eight Realms in its entirety. That's about as far from the irrelevance of Exodites as you can get.


And yet in 10 years we have 1 model that has been withdrawn from sale. Which is about on par with Exodites - granted they've closer to 40years but still he's already 1/4 of the way there.

Heck during that time we've seen Ossiarchs, A new breed of ork (which I 100% think should be their own army), and now Choffs. Not to mention several new editions of the game updating older armies.

Now granted I'm not against the latter, but darn it 10 years is a long time to rule a whole Realm and do nothing.


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/05 17:46:33


Post by: Geifer


 Overread wrote:
 His Master's Voice wrote:
He controls one of the Eight Realms in its entirety. That's about as far from the irrelevance of Exodites as you can get.


And yet in 10 years we have 1 model that has been withdrawn from sale. Which is about on par with Exodites - granted they've closer to 40years but still he's already 1/4 of the way there.

Heck during that time we've seen Ossiarchs, A new breed of ork (which I 100% think should be their own army), and now Choffs. Not to mention several new editions of the game updating older armies.

Now granted I'm not against the latter, but darn it 10 years is a long time to rule a whole Realm and do nothing.


Malerion hasn't done nothing in the last ten years. On the contrary, he did a whole lot. You just didn't see it because what he does is shrouded in mists and shadows.

I don't know if shadow elves and Exodites are all that comparable. I reckon the issue with shadow elves is that GW is only going to introduce so many new factions in an edition, and while 1st ed might have been the most productive in that regard because microfactions were still a thing in the beginning, AoS had a really rocky start. If the microfactions hadn't fallen out of favor, it's conceivable that we'd have Malerion by now. But with more resources funneled into properly sized factions since 2nd ed, both new and fleshed out ones, we can only expect so many of them per edition. My guess is that a lot of what we got was prioritized because it was considered more interesting than shady elves as the game's fourth proper elf faction, with Cities getting models to satisfy the desire for baseline humans and Flesheaters seeing an expansion to reflect the surprise hit their background turned out to be. The way I see it, as much as it's based on speculation, AoS has plenty of ideas that have yet to be implemented, and Malerion is just one of them and has to wait his turn.

You might look at Exodites as a concept that existed for forty years, but realistically they weren't in the cards until the disastrous AoS launch ended Kirby's approach of doubling down on the big sellers and cutting or sidelining anything else. 40k only got back Genestealer Cults afterwards, and GW took the plunge and finally invested in plastic Sisters of Battle. Later on, Squats returned. Also Not-Squats returned. And most specialist games. Between all that and the rollout of novelty Marines, I don't think Exodites ever had as much of a chance to release as a new AoS faction. Exodites aren't one army in a varied lineup but one small, exotic army among many that always exist in the shadow of the 40k's big seller.


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/05 18:01:54


Post by: Unknown_Lifeform


 Dryaktylus wrote:

*White Scars


I think that one is leagues of votann - looks like a space suit helmet. Hopefully their second wave?


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/05 18:48:47


Post by: mattl


More Votann and Chaos Dwarfs. I need to get some money to pay for things.


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/06 01:14:45


Post by: BorderCountess


 His Master's Voice wrote:
He controls one of the Eight Realms in its entirety.


I think Morathi would violently disagree with that assertion.


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/06 02:53:10


Post by: ZergSmasher


Sadly it looks like Middle-Earth is being given a miss yet again. Sigh. At least we've gotten some new models, but there's still some characters from War of the Rohirrim yet to be revealed (Frealaf, Olwyn, non-Wrath Helm).


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/06 07:54:28


Post by: Shakalooloo


 BorderCountess wrote:
 His Master's Voice wrote:
He controls one of the Eight Realms in its entirety.


I think Morathi would violently disagree with that assertion.


That's just their foreplay.


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/06 08:22:23


Post by: Dryaktylus


 Unknown_Lifeform wrote:
 Dryaktylus wrote:

*White Scars


I think that one is leagues of votann - looks like a space suit helmet. Hopefully their second wave?


Well, my first thought was racing equipment/head protection. But of course, could be part of a space suit as well.


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/06 08:41:39


Post by: Inquisitor Gideon


 ZergSmasher wrote:
Sadly it looks like Middle-Earth is being given a miss yet again. Sigh. At least we've gotten some new models, but there's still some characters from War of the Rohirrim yet to be revealed (Frealaf, Olwyn, non-Wrath Helm).


Be fair, there's a lot been released and more that hasn't come and unannounced stuff we know that's coming. I'm more surprised by a lack of necromunda. That's been dead since the last resin dump.


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/06 08:48:48


Post by: Overread


 BorderCountess wrote:
 His Master's Voice wrote:
He controls one of the Eight Realms in its entirety.


I think Morathi would violently disagree with that assertion.


The Daughter's of Khaine are odd.

Lore wise they occupy one of the smallest regions of any faction and yet their weight story wise is one of the greater impacts on the larger narrative in general.
What's odd is that their model range is actually quite small considering how much attention GW puts on them. I feel like GW has been battling an internal "lets just put them back into Dark Elves" and they "half" got there with the expansion book that did just that. However I feel that GW put so much into DoK that core DoK player don't want them to become a sub-part of a larger army.

Meanwhile they really only represent an elite corner of the whole Dark Elf army. Ergo you can take them out of the DE and still have a very functional DE left.

I think there's also the fact that the whole DE end of the model line is just so unknown that I think many hold off investing into them for fear that GW will remove them. Either entirely or into Old World (go rebase everything like the Beastmen players)


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/06 09:03:47


Post by: Fayric


DoK is just a great narrative tool though. They are allied to the good guys, but totally unpredictable and everybody knows they have an agenda of their own.
Its a villain that the good guys accept because they appear to mave minor influence and power, and yet they can easily mess upp the plans of their allies if they feel like it.


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/06 09:25:55


Post by: Overread


Very much agreed - I just really want to see GW flesh them out to an army as diverse as Skaven/Seraphon/Stormcast/Chaos etc. I'd love to see more witch units like a cavalry; shadow beasts; a monster or or two. Some artillery units would be neat to see as well.

Even a new Cauldron which sparks a bunch of new separate heroes and a separate Khaine animated statue (though these days it would likely be animated Morathi statue) etc....


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/06 11:58:07


Post by: BorderCountess


 Overread wrote:
Either entirely or into Old World (go rebase everything like the Beastmen players)


Joke's on them - I never rebased them the first time!


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/06 14:09:18


Post by: His Master's Voice


 BorderCountess wrote:


I think Morathi would violently disagree with that assertion.


I'm sure she would, but unless there's been some developments I missed, her territory in Ulgu was granted to her by Malerion.

 Overread wrote:
Very much agreed - I just really want to see GW flesh them out to an army as diverse as Skaven/Seraphon/Stormcast/Chaos etc.


That would require GW to essentially reinstate the Dark Elves in AoS, because DoK are already a planet of hats faction with Witch Elves, Snake Witch Elves, Flying Witch Elves, Witch Elves but MORE METAL, Witch Elves in a Pimp Wagon, Witch Elves in a Different Pimp Wagon, etc, you get the point. Practically all factions split out of their core WFB roster suffer from this issue. Hell, most new factions are one design stretched over too much plastic.

There's been some consolidation going on, and some factions are starting to get back to WFB style variety, but I'm not sure if it's a conscious effort from GW or just sales data talking.


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/06 21:30:45


Post by: SamusDrake


Still stumped by what the jester hat could be referring to if Valrak's right on Necrons vs Deathwatch for Kill Team. I can't see a Harlequin release for 40K when they've already done the Eldar codex...

I honestly cannot remember the specifics but back in the 90s I do remember an orc in a jester-like costume...or was it a goblin?


Automatically Appended Next Post:
 ZergSmasher wrote:
Sadly it looks like Middle-Earth is being given a miss yet again. Sigh. At least we've gotten some new models, but there's still some characters from War of the Rohirrim yet to be revealed (Frealaf, Olwyn, non-Wrath Helm).


Have courage, ZergSmasher!

Lief has already been announced so I'm guessing they announce something else soon. Possibly later in the week, so that the following week they focus on the big preview show.



Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/06 21:51:49


Post by: semajnollissor


SamusDrake wrote:
Still stumped by what the jester hat could be referring to if Valrak's right on Necrons vs Deathwatch for Kill Team. I can't see a Harlequin release for 40K when they've already done the Eldar codex...

I honestly cannot remember the specifics but back in the 90s I do remember an orc in a jester-like costume...or was it a goblin?

You are remembering Gubbinz the Goblin Jester from the Lair of the Orc Lord add-on for Warhammer Quest. He'll like show up on Warhammer TV this week if the Sunday preview is accurate.

As for the jester hat, if the hats aren't all just a reference to Chaos Dwarves (what Warhammer faction do you think of when I say hats?), then it has to be some sort of Harlequin reference. Maybe there is a kill team coming for them, maybe they're getting a special character for Warhammer+, maybe a joy-toy collectible solitaire is coming soon. It doesn't have to be a full army, it can just be a set of stickers and GW will hype it all the same.


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/06 21:53:16


Post by: Overread


Didn't Bretonnia have a Jester unit once?


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/06 22:15:32


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Joules Le Jongleur, a Special Character’s sidekick.



Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/07 00:01:13


Post by: chaos0xomega


Yeah, I think the hats were really meant as a Chaos Dwarf reference and only a chaos dwarf reference? I think folks have read into it a bit too much assuming that these are *all* references to something to be previewed.


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/07 00:57:41


Post by: modelhunter


I notice things are quite on the Necromunda front.

Does GWS have plans for any releases in the near future Necromunda?


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/07 09:09:03


Post by: Geifer


semajnollissor wrote:
SamusDrake wrote:
Still stumped by what the jester hat could be referring to if Valrak's right on Necrons vs Deathwatch for Kill Team. I can't see a Harlequin release for 40K when they've already done the Eldar codex...

I honestly cannot remember the specifics but back in the 90s I do remember an orc in a jester-like costume...or was it a goblin?

You are remembering Gubbinz the Goblin Jester from the Lair of the Orc Lord add-on for Warhammer Quest. He'll like show up on Warhammer TV this week if the Sunday preview is accurate.

As for the jester hat, if the hats aren't all just a reference to Chaos Dwarves (what Warhammer faction do you think of when I say hats?), then it has to be some sort of Harlequin reference. Maybe there is a kill team coming for them, maybe they're getting a special character for Warhammer+, maybe a joy-toy collectible solitaire is coming soon. It doesn't have to be a full army, it can just be a set of stickers and GW will hype it all the same.


Unless I misremember Flesheater Courts are coming up. Might be a reference to them, because court jester. Maybe they'll even get an actual court jester.


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/07 11:15:43


Post by: The Phazer


 Geifer wrote:
semajnollissor wrote:
SamusDrake wrote:
Still stumped by what the jester hat could be referring to if Valrak's right on Necrons vs Deathwatch for Kill Team. I can't see a Harlequin release for 40K when they've already done the Eldar codex...

I honestly cannot remember the specifics but back in the 90s I do remember an orc in a jester-like costume...or was it a goblin?

You are remembering Gubbinz the Goblin Jester from the Lair of the Orc Lord add-on for Warhammer Quest. He'll like show up on Warhammer TV this week if the Sunday preview is accurate.

As for the jester hat, if the hats aren't all just a reference to Chaos Dwarves (what Warhammer faction do you think of when I say hats?), then it has to be some sort of Harlequin reference. Maybe there is a kill team coming for them, maybe they're getting a special character for Warhammer+, maybe a joy-toy collectible solitaire is coming soon. It doesn't have to be a full army, it can just be a set of stickers and GW will hype it all the same.


Unless I misremember Flesheater Courts are coming up. Might be a reference to them, because court jester. Maybe they'll even get an actual court jester.


A FEC Jester unit (or at least a jester as one member) as part of an Underworlds Warband also doesn't seem outside of the realms of possibility.


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/07 11:20:22


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


 modelhunter wrote:
I notice things are quite on the Necromunda front.

Does GWS have plans for any releases in the near future Necromunda?


Nothing announced. However, there’s still Noble House crews and various Dramatis Personae that need some models.


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/07 12:08:46


Post by: JimmyWolf87


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
 modelhunter wrote:
I notice things are quite on the Necromunda front.

Does GWS have plans for any releases in the near future Necromunda?


Nothing announced. However, there’s still Noble House crews and various Dramatis Personae that need some models.


Also wouldn't be a stretch to think that Enforcers might be getting their own book treatment in the same manner as Squats/Ash Waste Raiders. One of the recent teasers might be a hint towards that. Whether that extends to other gangs in a similar position (Corpse Grinders?), who can say? Even a single book dedicated to the various cults to bring their lists in line with the current structure would be very welcome.


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/07 12:17:14


Post by: MobileSuitRandom


JimmyWolf87 wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
 modelhunter wrote:
I notice things are quite on the Necromunda front.

Does GWS have plans for any releases in the near future Necromunda?


Nothing announced. However, there’s still Noble House crews and various Dramatis Personae that need some models.


Also wouldn't be a stretch to think that Enforcers might be getting their own book treatment in the same manner as Squats/Ash Waste Raiders. One of the recent teasers might be a hint towards that. Whether that extends to other gangs in a similar position (Corpse Grinders?), who can say? Even a single book dedicated to the various cults to bring their lists in line with the current structure would be very welcome.


Ha, they actually just announced this ^^ https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/6ojnf0ga/palanite-enforcers-unleash-their-unique-brand-of-justice-with-new-officers-weapons-and-a-book/


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/07 12:27:48


Post by: SamusDrake


semajnollissor wrote:

You are remembering Gubbinz the Goblin Jester from the Lair of the Orc Lord add-on for Warhammer Quest. He'll like show up on Warhammer TV this week if the Sunday preview is accurate.

As for the jester hat, if the hats aren't all just a reference to Chaos Dwarves (what Warhammer faction do you think of when I say hats?), then it has to be some sort of Harlequin reference. Maybe there is a kill team coming for them, maybe they're getting a special character for Warhammer+, maybe a joy-toy collectible solitaire is coming soon. It doesn't have to be a full army, it can just be a set of stickers and GW will hype it all the same.


Yes, I think that might be the one. That said...wasn't there a dangerously overloaded 40K ork weapon that called for one ork to be singled out to use it - because it was essentially suicidal - and they had them dressed up as a jester to make fun of them?

I think it might be the mind playing tricks on me now...


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/07 12:52:46


Post by: Dryaktylus


SamusDrake wrote:
semajnollissor wrote:

You are remembering Gubbinz the Goblin Jester from the Lair of the Orc Lord add-on for Warhammer Quest. He'll like show up on Warhammer TV this week if the Sunday preview is accurate.

As for the jester hat, if the hats aren't all just a reference to Chaos Dwarves (what Warhammer faction do you think of when I say hats?), then it has to be some sort of Harlequin reference. Maybe there is a kill team coming for them, maybe they're getting a special character for Warhammer+, maybe a joy-toy collectible solitaire is coming soon. It doesn't have to be a full army, it can just be a set of stickers and GW will hype it all the same.


Yes, I think that might be the one. That said...wasn't there a dangerously overloaded 40K ork weapon that called for one ork to be singled out to use it - because it was essentially suicidal - and they had them dressed up as a jester to make fun of them?

I think it might be the mind playing tricks on me now...


Some of the old Weirdboyz were dressed as jesters. The bells were an alarm signal for other Orks to stay away from them.


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/07 16:55:34


Post by: Shakalooloo


 Dryaktylus wrote:
SamusDrake wrote:
semajnollissor wrote:

You are remembering Gubbinz the Goblin Jester from the Lair of the Orc Lord add-on for Warhammer Quest. He'll like show up on Warhammer TV this week if the Sunday preview is accurate.

As for the jester hat, if the hats aren't all just a reference to Chaos Dwarves (what Warhammer faction do you think of when I say hats?), then it has to be some sort of Harlequin reference. Maybe there is a kill team coming for them, maybe they're getting a special character for Warhammer+, maybe a joy-toy collectible solitaire is coming soon. It doesn't have to be a full army, it can just be a set of stickers and GW will hype it all the same.


Yes, I think that might be the one. That said...wasn't there a dangerously overloaded 40K ork weapon that called for one ork to be singled out to use it - because it was essentially suicidal - and they had them dressed up as a jester to make fun of them?

I think it might be the mind playing tricks on me now...


Some of the old Weirdboyz were dressed as jesters. The bells were an alarm signal for other Orks to stay away from them.


The hats of the Evil Sunz and Bad Moonz Weirdboyz do look a little jester-ish: http://www.solegends.com/citcat1991a/cat1991ap073orkwierdboyz-00.htm


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/07 17:28:46


Post by: KidCthulhu


In Freebooterz, there's a drawing of my favorite weirdboy and you can just make out clown face paint. The jester/harlequin/clown aesthetic is pure weirdboy.

Spoiler: pic is huge
Spoiler:


Personally, I think the Summer Review will have something Chaos Dwarf due to the "big hats are best hats" line.


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/07 17:39:45


Post by: Fayric


Top hat is Chorfs, and Cowboy hat is another reference for Chaos Dwarfs, beeing the cow boys.


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/07 17:46:27


Post by: SamusDrake


 Dryaktylus wrote:


Some of the old Weirdboyz were dressed as jesters. The bells were an alarm signal for other Orks to stay away from them.


WEIRDBOYZ!!! OMG THATS THEM!!!

Yes! I'm pretty sure Mark Gibbons had an illustration of one in White Dwarf. This really is a trip down memory lane!


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/07 21:56:51


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Oooh! I just realised I’ll be travelling First Class (by rail) when this is airing!

Fancy.


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/08 10:04:07


Post by: lord_blackfang


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Oooh! I just realised I’ll be travelling First Class (by rail) when this is airing!

Fancy.


Ah so you will be abroad, how exciting!


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/08 10:08:39


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Kinda. I’ll be about an hour out from Edinburgh. Got another family funeral, so making a long weekend of it.


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/10 17:45:59


Post by: Ceramicwombat


I'm hoping the Leagues of Votann release is more than a single character. Some huge sort of flying mining tug like the Nostromo from Alien would be nice, a big chunk of plastic the size of a Necron Monolith. Just wishcasting.


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/10 18:37:09


Post by: Tastyfish


 Ceramicwombat wrote:
I'm hoping the Leagues of Votann release is more than a single character. Some huge sort of flying mining tug like the Nostromo from Alien would be nice, a big chunk of plastic the size of a Necron Monolith. Just wishcasting.


I think there's been some talk of an artillery piece type unit, and the prospector/analyser character


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/11 02:27:47


Post by: ZergSmasher


I personally would love something like a Dreadnought for Votann, but instead of a mostly dead guy inside it's basically just an ancestor's consciousness inside a robot body


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/11 04:40:13


Post by: cuda1179


 ZergSmasher wrote:
I personally would love something like a Dreadnought for Votann, but instead of a mostly dead guy inside it's basically just an ancestor's consciousness inside a robot body


Yeah, I'd REALLY like that. Even if it's not a full-on Dreadnought, but something dreadnought-like, but smaller, like Sentinel sized.


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/14 22:32:46


Post by: Lathe Biosas


Edit: for clarity.

Are there any rumors of any major releases coming soon, or do you think this will be stuff we already heard about ?


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/14 22:37:48


Post by: Overread


Chaos Dwarves are the big secret surprise that will likely dominate the event, esp for the fantasy end.

That said Old World is nearing the end of everything they've got previewed so potential there for some revelations on the future of the game


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/15 02:08:18


Post by: Porsenna


 Overread wrote:
Chaos Dwarves are the big secret surprise that will likely dominate the event, esp for the fantasy end.

That said Old World is nearing the end of everything they've got previewed so potential there for some revelations on the future of the game


Im hoping for some Dogs of War or full Tilean/Estalian faction teases


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/15 09:25:50


Post by: Overread


Old World wise I'm expecting

a) A few hints at more Cathay units to round them out more

b) First teasers of Kislev

c) Going back to early armies like Brets and Tomb Kings and starting to upgrade more models to modern plastics.


I honestly feel like adding more armies now might be a mistake. Just because the game can easily find itself in the gap where you've got armies like Kislev and Cathay running around with fully modern armies and quality models; whilst TK and Brets are running around with really old metals, plastic ponies and wonky skeletons. Basically that powerful nostalgia that let it grow will wane and give way to "I want new modern models".

The best direction would be to bring more armies up to modern standards quicker then add more fresh armies. Otherwise I figure you'd end up with a divide with newer armies looking cool and picking up new customers, fresh ones and growing; whilst old armies end up languishing in the doldrums of low sales as low re-investment makes htem unattractive

Basically exactly where armies like Sisters of Battle sat for years


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/15 09:31:29


Post by: Inquisitor Gideon


They already stated there won't be anymore Cathay apart from the dragon and i would be genuinely surprised if they tease another brand new army that fast. I think you're hitting middle-earth territory with resin characters and units being the filler period.


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/15 09:35:57


Post by: kodos


 Overread wrote:

I honestly feel like adding more armies now might be a mistake. Just because the game can easily find itself in the gap where you've got armies like Kislev and Cathay running around with fully modern armies and quality models; whilst TK and Brets are running around with really old metals, plastic ponies and wonky skeletons. Basically that powerful nostalgia that let it grow will wane and give way to "I want new modern models".

The best direction would be to bring more armies up to modern standards quicker then add more fresh armies. Otherwise I figure you'd end up with a divide with newer armies looking cool and picking up new customers, fresh ones and growing; whilst old armies end up languishing in the doldrums of low sales as low re-investment makes htem unattractive

Basically exactly where armies like Sisters of Battle sat for years

basically this is how Warhammer sat from end of 6th Edition with the Ogre release until it ended
you have that one army fully updated with new models and everyone else is waiting until their outdated and ugly models are replaced as well, but never were

So we will see of GW get it right this time, or we are going to see full new models lines only for new factions and the old ones being left where they are


Big Summer Warhammer Preview - 18th July @ 2025/07/15 09:44:48


Post by: CragHack


Chaos dwarfs for aos = meh.
Chaos dwarfs for tow = my poor, poor bank account
Man, I would not mind oldschool WHF models as well. Like the Landship or Elspeth.