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HQ
CCS
Regimental Standard Bearer
1X Vox
1X Mortar
Chimera Transport w/ Multi Laser and Heavy Flamer
-130-

Alpha Platoon
PCS
2X Flamers
1X Melta
1X Vox

Infantry Squad I, II
2x AC
1x GL (SII)
1X PG (SI)
2X Voxes
1X Commissar (Squad I)
1X Plasma Pistol

Veteran Squad w/ 4 Shotguns
3X Meltas
Vox
-355-

Bravo Platoon
PCS
2X Flamers
1X Melta
1X Vox

Infantry Squad III, IV
2x AC
1x GL (SIV)
1X PG (SIII)
2X Voxes
1X Commissar (Squad III)
1X Plasma Pistol

Veteran Squad w/ 4 Shotguns
3X Meltas
Vox
-355-

Fast Attack
Vendetta Gunship
-130-

Vendetta Gunship
-130-

Heavy Support
LRMBT
Spon. HB
-170-

LR Excecutioner
Spon. PC
-230-

-=1500=-

Any replies?

nice list
mortars rock i am a marine player and mortars are a nightmare (quivers)
vendettas / vets is a nice combo
dont forget turbo scouting before 1st turn then move6 hop out and unleash smeging heck
dont see many holes
go with it and tweek it as you play
but it seems very playable
nice one

Should I drop the LC's out of the Platoon command squads with Mortars, or leave it?

i would take at least 1 lot maybe 2 allways keep some AT up your sleeve
remember motars = no bs to worry about + st 4

one extra thing with the new order system vox's for every squad is a must and in your command squad

Even in the veterans? Then I'll have to drop a melta gun in each D: Unless I can get around that....

New list at the bottom(ish)!

Just a quick question about vox casters -

If you select one squad with an officer (CC) and use a random order successfully, then you can administer the second free, so on and so forth. Is it possible to issue orders from ALL your officers before the shooting phase, such as "FRFSRF"? I've been wondering about this for a while.

The Airman wrote:Just a quick question about vox casters -

If you select one squad with an officer (CC) and use a random order successfully, then you can administer the second free, so on and so forth. Is it possible to issue orders from ALL your officers before the shooting phase, such as "FRFSRF"? I've been wondering about this for a while.

P29 of the IG codex.. " Orders must be issued at the start of the shooting phase.

As for the orders: I think you follow the instructions. For example;

Company command squad (top of the queue) issues FRFSRF to a infantry squad. That infantry squad then immediately shoots at any visible target < Thats from the Order rule, P36.

Then a platoon command squad (goes after a CCS) orders themselves to 'Bring it down' on a predator (or canifex) to allow for extra punch. As the wording states

Immediately

in all cases, you do what your told.

If you roll a double 1 - that order is obviously sucessfully issue - you can make an additional order (to any squad legeally allowed to recieve an order. So this discounts units that have already recieved an order & marbo, etc) which does not count towards your alotment of orders & its automatically passed (as there is no need to make a test).
If you roll a double 6, that order fails & no further orders may be made by any command squad or officer that shooting phase.

HtH

Edit: As for the list - Just incase you didnt know (I only say because you included your subtotal after the vet squads, not before) the vet squad is a seperate troops choice & is not part of the Infantry platoon. Nor can it be 'Combined squad''ed with standard infantry squads (or other vets for that matter).

At 30pts, a 5man platoon command squad isnt much of a asset, even those its very weak. At 99pts (the current cost of your PCS's) it would actually become worth the opponents time shooting at ~20pt/model T3 5+ save models. The commissar cant do much if the entire squad gets killed before he can execute one to restore order. Put these commissars into one of the infantry squads (Platoon command squads cant form up with infantry squads in combined sqquads)

Alright, I'll get right on that. Would putting one commissar in one of the squads in each platoon and giving him a power weapons/plasma pistol and giving the other squad in the platoon a power/weapon/plasma pistol work?
EX:

Infantry Squad I, II
2x AC
2x GL
2X Voxes
1X Plasma Pistol (For the Sergeant)
Commissar
1x Power weapon (For the commissar)

Something like that or any variation thereof?

Edit: Removed point costs =S

darkangels_rule wrote:one extra thing with the new order system vox's for every squad is a must and in your command squad

I disagree. I'm not going to insist that Voxes are a waste of points, but they're far from a mandatory option. Remember: Voxes don't give an unlimited range to orders, so their value in the Veteran squads is questionable. And a second Vox does no good if you combine your squads in KP missions. But most critically, you only have one CHQ Squad. If you're going to make a foot-based order-centric army, you really need a second CCS.

Here's what I would do with your list:

Command Chimera: Dropping extra armor frees up 15 points.
LRMBT: Dropping the extra armor on both tanks frees up 30 points. Dropping the HB sponsons frees up an additional 40 points.
Vendettas: Dropping the Heavy Bolters frees up 20 points.
Bolt Weapons: You've got 11. Dropping ten of them frees up 20 points.
Power Weapons / Plasma Pistols: Drop two of the four. Or else lose some voxes.

We've just freed up 145 points, which can be spent on a 2nd CHQ Squad with a Chimera and 4x melta guns.

I would also question the Commisars in your army. They add LD 9 and Stubborn, but your Standard Bearer means that you'll be testing on LD 8 with a reroll without needing the Commisars. And Stubborn can be a major disadvantage in close combat. (Imperial Guard armies usually want to receive the charge, break, and run, exposing their attackers to rapid firing lasguns.)

Dropping the Commisars gets you an extra Chimera for one of the PHQ squads. (Consider running it with 4x flamers; it's cookie-cutter, but that's because it works!)

As a general rule, I like to run IG with as little wargear as possible. Remember: Quantity has a quality all its own.

Basically put, if CS one fails with an order, could I use CS two to try again?

Other than that, I suppose I could try it. I've honestly never played a game, so I can't really say what's best. I did originally did have two CCS's, but ditched them for vets and what not. I'll go and post a new list momentarily, and I'm leaning towards keeping the vox casters, unless I need to drop them. The Vets also don't have a vox. I'll reformat the list so that it shows the vets independently.

Power weapons on guardsmen are a no-no, it just won't be that effective. Plasma pistols are alright, its your choice, are 12" plasma shots worth their points?

You might want to make your CCS flame boys. You don't have any flamers in the army, and they are really the best way to take care of hordes, so having your CCS being able to "counter assault" and flame the living heck out of something is good.

The GL/LC combo isn't good. Its just wasting something. You seem to be running a "gunline" for those platoons so I suggest maybe GL/AC or something like that, giving these guys flamers isn't a bad idea either but isn't as effective since they don't have a chimera.

Drop the plasma on the vets, I don't see the points going to use well (this is your choice to keep them, just like the infantry squads Plasma Pistols)

Maybe taking a Devildog thing (the long range melta tank) might be very beneficial to your because of its amazing anti-tank ability. Also, a "mortar" unit like Medusa or w/e would probably benefit your greater (with siegebreaker or w/e shells to help armor pen.)

MOO would probably be another good investment because of your CSS probably being stationary.

New list below.

Any takers?

I'd drop some points to put those vets onto a chimera - otherwise there mobility fails.
i dont see much point for the bravo PCS having that equipment. i would slap on melta/flamers and put them on a chimera.
your list is very odd indeed, need more direction.

HQ
CCS
Regimental Standard Bearer
1X Vox
1X Mortar
Chimera Transport w/ Multi Laser and Heavy Flamer
-130-

Alpha Platoon
PCS
2X Flamers
1X Melta
1X Vox

Infantry Squad I, II
2x AC
1x GL (SII)
1X PG (SI)
2X Voxes
1X Commissar (Squad I)
1X Plasma Pistol

Veteran Squad w/ 4 Shotguns
3X Meltas
Vox
-355-

Bravo Platoon
PCS
2X Flamers
1X Melta
1X Vox

Infantry Squad III, IV
2x AC
1x GL (SIV)
1X PG (SIII)
2X Voxes
1X Commissar (Squad III)
1X Plasma Pistol

Veteran Squad w/ 4 Shotguns
3X Meltas
Vox
-355-

Fast Attack
Vendetta Gunship
-130-

Vendetta Gunship
-130-

Heavy Support
LRMBT
Spon. HB
-170-

LR Excecutioner
Spon. PC
-230-

-=1500=-

Posted a new list, moved the Chimera to the CCS for general fire support and anti-horde duty along with the mortar. The PCSs are plasma gun platforms, pretty much. Only one commissar has a power weapon, but I'm thinking about removing the other commissar.

Lol, in the previous list there were too many people in the CCS:
-Standard Bearer
-Vox Operator
-GL-armed
- 2 for the autocannon

=5 and theres 4 guys in the squad =)

Company commander and four veterans is FIVE models.

4 guys you can give stuff to


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On that, the Company Commander isn't gonna be in an autocannon team or waving a flag

PCS do such much better kitted with Flamers.. They are BS 3 after all. Also I think you would have much better luck with voxes on the veterans for TL fire over the IF squads. Also the IF guys are footsloggers and will most likely be near the PCS.

Alright, both PCSs are now dedicated anti-CC/infantry/horde units. Added in a plasma pistol for extra bang. Same with the Commissars, each has a plasma pistol and power weapon, although it's not specific on what type of power weapon. I'll assume it means a sword, since fists are 5 points more.

What is the Chimera for on the CCS?

Sort of the same as the PCS.

I just don't think you should have a CCS (which is integral to the orders system) with a mortar rushing forward, or is the Chim there for Fire Support?

I was thinking of a gun line type of force. The dog troops will be in front, then the PCSs, the Russes, the valks and vets and then the CSS. The Chimera will be there to block incoming fire, while the CSS pops shots off at range. Bad strat? D:

vets with 3 meltas and a vox are 105pts. Also its only 255pts for the IF squads.

Ender wrote:vets with 3 meltas and a vox are 105pts. Also its only 255pts for the IF squads.

Correct, make sure you check your calcs before you post