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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/13 15:26:32
Subject: Lockerbie terrorist bomber 'to be released
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Fireknife Shas'el
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The BBC wrote:
The Libyan man convicted of the Lockerbie bombing is likely to be freed on compassionate grounds next week, the BBC understands.
Abdelbaset Ali al-Megrahi, who has terminal prostate cancer, is serving life for murdering 270 people when Pan Am flight 103 exploded in 1988.
Scottish ministers described the development as "complete speculation".
Kathleen Flynn, whose son died on the plane, told the BBC she was horrified the "terrorist" could be released.
She added that he showed no mercy as he planted his bomb and should "never qualify for anything compassionate".
"Did Megrahi as he planted a bomb on a US airliner reflect on any compassion for the people he was about to blow up out of the skies and the people on the ground in Lockerbie? I think not," she said
The BBC's Daniel Sandford in Washington said "broadly" families in the UK were concerned about the conviction, whereas US relatives were convinced of his guilt.
American Susan Cohen, whose 20-year-old daughter Theodora also died, said: "Any letting out of Megrahi would be a disgrace. It makes me sick, and if there is a compassionate release then I think that is vile."
But Pamela Dix, from UK Families Flight 103, said there had been a "lack of justice" for the victims, which included her brother Peter.
She told BBC Two's Newsnight she was "baffled" by much of the evidence in the trial that led to Megrahi's conviction in 2001.
'Just a tool'
And Martin Cadman, who lost his son in the bombing, said he believed Mergrahi was an innocent man who had acted with others.
He said: "As far as I know the Scottish authorities and no-one else has done anything to try and find who these others were that were supposed to be implicated, so the whole thing is really very unsatisfactory".
Bob Monetti, a past president of the organisation Victims of Flight 103, lost his 20-year-old son Richard in the bombing.
He told BBC Radio's Good Morning Scotland programme: "We understand that Megrahi was just a tool in this. He wasn't really the person that decided what to do.
"We would really rather see Gadaffi in jail.
"But Megrahi was the one who was convicted and lost his appeal. So I am really happy to see him in jail and not happy to see him anywhere else."
It is believed UK and Libyan officials have held talks this week over Megrahi's appeal against his conviction.
The speed of his transfer is thought to be influenced by consensus among all parties that Megrahi be back on Libyan soil in time for Ramadan next week.
News of his release came after Scottish Justice Secretary Kenny MacAskill visited Megrahi in prison, amid speculation he might be moved to Libya.
A prisoner transfer request was made by Libya to the UK government last May, less than a week after a treaty allowing prisoners to be transferred between the two countries was ratified.
But a spokesman for Scottish First Minister Alex Salmond said: "No decision has been taken, either on the application for compassionate release or the application under the prisoner transfer agreement and so it is entirely speculation."
A Scottish Government spokesman added that a decision was expected from Mr MacAskill this month.
Mr MacAskill said last week he would miss the 90-day deadline, which expired on 3 August, because he was waiting for more information.
A prisoner transfer cannot take place if criminal proceedings are active, meaning Megrahi would have to drop his latest appeal against his conviction in order to be sent home.
Scottish Liberal Democrat justice spokesman Robert Brown said: "If this decision is confirmed then it is wrong in principle, wrong in practice and sets the wrong precedent.
"This is a man who was convicted in a Scottish court under the eyes of the world of the worst atrocity in Scotland in modern times.
"In a case like this it is difficult to see why the Scottish Government seems to have weighted the balance of compassion in favour of the criminal and against the interests of the victims, their families and the general public."
Scottish Conservative justice spokesman John Lamont said it would be a "catastrophic decision" if Megrahi were to be released without compelling medical evidence that he was gravely ill.
South of Scotland SNP MSP Christine Grahame, who has visited Megrahi in prison, said he was "very ill" and was not expected to live beyond the end of the year.
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'Very ill'
She stressed she had no inside information whether he was to be released.
She said: "If it is the case, and it's still speculation, compassionate release is just not only for Mr Megrahi but the victims' families."
Ms Grahame said she had not spoken to him in recent days but he was getting "very ill and pretty desperate".
She also predicted that Megrahi's appeal would continue even if he was granted compassionate release.
Medical evidence
Megrahi was ordered to remain in prison for a minimum of 27 years, having been found guilty of the bombing - the UK's worst terrorist atrocity.
Megrahi's legal team had also made a request for him to released from prison on compassionate grounds.
An earlier request, made in October 2008, was rejected by Appeal Court judges after they heard medical evidence that with adequate palliative care, Megrahi could live for several years.
The court heard that such requests are normally only granted where a prisoner has fewer than three months to live.
Personally I am disgusted by the thought of this individual going free, and this one of the very very very few casses where I wish the Brits had a death penalty. This guy would have been a non-issue well before the illness that way.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/13 15:50:59
Subject: Lockerbie terrorist bomber 'to be released
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Compassionate grounds? Where was the compassion for the men, women, and children he killed?
Feth that, bring back time honored British tradition of draw and quartering. if its good enough for Da King, its good enough for me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/13 16:34:04
Subject: Lockerbie terrorist bomber 'to be released
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Let him die cold, alone, and unmourned.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/14 13:01:06
Subject: Re:Lockerbie terrorist bomber 'to be released
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/14 13:07:35
Subject: Lockerbie terrorist bomber 'to be released
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@Frazzled
My thoughts exactly, why should he get compassion when he clearly had no compassion to the people he killed. Some of our laws are just plain stupid to allow this sort of thing
He should spend the rest of his days in prison
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/14 13:08:03
Subject: Lockerbie terrorist bomber 'to be released
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Horrific Hive Tyrant
London (work) / Pompey (live, from time to time)
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Lucius, there seems to be more grounds for actually charging him than there does in his defence.
In which case, let the fether rot.
how the feth can he be released after causing this many deaths?
Who gives a gak about someone like that with cancer?
A terrorist gets cancer, i fething call this instant justice.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/14 13:08:58
Subject: Lockerbie terrorist bomber 'to be released
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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hellsguardian316 wrote:@Frazzled
My thoughts exactly, why should he get compassion when he clearly had no compassion to the people he killed. Some of our laws are just plain stupid to allow this sort of thing
He should spend the rest of his days in prison
Prison's ok. I'd prefer the drawn and quartered thing though.
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-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/14 13:10:41
Subject: Lockerbie terrorist bomber 'to be released
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Frazzled wrote:Compassionate grounds? Where was the compassion for the men, women, and children he killed?
Thing is though, like in the article Mr. Ar posted, it' seems increasingly doubtful that he did kill anyone or was involved at all.
Now the Iranians on the other hand..hmm. best we not go here perhaps.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/14 13:10:58
Subject: Lockerbie terrorist bomber 'to be released
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I just wish they'd put laws in place in this country that were good laws to benefit hard working people and not just bow down to the cry of "Murderers have rights too" people who just seem to throw spanners into the works.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/14 13:35:41
Subject: Lockerbie terrorist bomber 'to be released
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In an interesting turn of events I’ve just read that he has dropped his appeal against his conviction. This whole business strikes me as a bit of horse trade. I think the Government and CPS wanted to avoid the embarrassment of the appeal as it would be made apparent just how flimsy the case against him actually was. So he drops the appeal and gets sent home on ‘compassionate’ grounds. A nice and tidy win/win scenario. He still deserves to go home though, he was clearly a scapegoat.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/14 14:39:38
Subject: Lockerbie terrorist bomber 'to be released
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LuciusAR wrote:In an interesting turn of events I’ve just read that he has dropped his appeal against his conviction. This whole business strikes me as a bit of horse trade. I think the Government and CPS wanted to avoid the embarrassment of the appeal as it would be made apparent just how flimsy the case against him actually was. So he drops the appeal and gets sent home on ‘compassionate’ grounds. A nice and tidy win/win scenario. He still deserves to go home though, he was clearly a scapegoat.
Shhh, dude, there's people raging against the crazy laws that don't respect honest hardworking people. You're ruining their fun.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/14 14:58:12
Subject: Lockerbie terrorist bomber 'to be released
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Plummeting Black Templar Thunderhawk Pilot
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Go onto youtube and search for college Humour crazy laws, it might amuse.
Rage is good, relieves stress
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/14 15:39:35
Subject: Lockerbie terrorist bomber 'to be released
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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sebster wrote:LuciusAR wrote:In an interesting turn of events I’ve just read that he has dropped his appeal against his conviction. This whole business strikes me as a bit of horse trade. I think the Government and CPS wanted to avoid the embarrassment of the appeal as it would be made apparent just how flimsy the case against him actually was. So he drops the appeal and gets sent home on ‘compassionate’ grounds. A nice and tidy win/win scenario. He still deserves to go home though, he was clearly a scapegoat.
Shhh, dude, there's people raging against the crazy laws that don't respect honest hardworking people. You're ruining their fun.
I think you're getting threads confused. We're talking about a terrorist murdering bastard on this thread. Exit stage left for crazy laws. I'll join you and see if I can find the one where I can stilll get a posse together and hang a horse thief.
(Car cuts me off in traffic, reach over and get rope from under seat)
"Looks like he could be a horse thief. Better hang him just to be safe."
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-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/14 16:07:30
Subject: Lockerbie terrorist bomber 'to be released
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Just because there's doubt as to his guilt, it doesn't mean he's innocent either. From the couple articles that I've read, it's not clear that he was or was not involved in the bombing. While the evidence might be shaky, it also doesn't mean it's not true. Whoever murdered the passengers didn't want to get caught, and was smart enough not to leave a trail of breadcrumbs.
But, if he did it, he deserves to die cold, alone, unloved, and unmourned.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/14 16:19:14
Subject: Lockerbie terrorist bomber 'to be released
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dietrich wrote:Just because there's doubt as to his guilt, it doesn't mean he's innocent either. From the couple articles that I've read, it's not clear that he was or was not involved in the bombing. While the evidence might be shaky, it also doesn't mean it's not true. Whilst that’s certainly true, the question is, is the 'shakiness' of the evidence sufficient to constitute reasonable doubt in the eyes of the law. If the answer is yes, and in the eyes of a rapidly increasing number of people it certainly is, then he should go free. I think many are letting their understandable desire for revenge override their desire for justice.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/14 16:24:05
Subject: Lockerbie terrorist bomber 'to be released
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I haven't been following the case, at all. Shaky evidence should almost be expected in a case like this. Your witnesses are probably criminals, so they have little credibility. And the responsible parties probably tried very hard to cover their tracks (likely so they'd stay out of jail and be able to murder more people).
But, I do agree, the desire for revenge shouldn't overcome the need for justice in the case. And, it's quite possible, that there will never be any true justice, at least in this world.
Of course, most Americans think those Europeans are as soft as a creme-filled danish and they're just a bunch of bleeding heart liberals. And, most Europeans that think all Americans are like John Wayne and walk around with a pistol and just want to quickly execute anyone that crosses us.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/14 16:28:38
Subject: Lockerbie terrorist bomber 'to be released
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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dietrich wrote:
Of course, most Americans think those Europeans are as soft as a creme-filled danish and they're just a bunch of bleeding heart liberals. And, most Europeans that think all Americans are like John Wayne and walk around with a pistol and just want to quickly execute anyone that crosses us. 
(hides Colt .45 Peacemaker behind leg) er...yea, we're not like that at all...er...look over there! (runs away)
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-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/14 16:29:06
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Combat Jumping Rasyat
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Face it, innocent until proven guilty and reasonable doubt are passe concepts. Vengeance is what all the cool kids are talking about. Everybody jump aboard the lynchwagon.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/14 16:40:11
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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He was convicted by a jury correct? Whats the issue?
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/14 16:50:38
Subject: Re:Lockerbie terrorist bomber 'to be released
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These articles at least raise some of the concerns about his conviction.
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/leading-articles/leading-article-come-clean-over-this-miscarriage-of-justice-1771887.htmlIn that trial, held in a specially convened court in the Netherlands, al-Megrahi was positively identified by a witness who, it has been alleged, was offered a $2m reward for his evidence. The Libyan's defence team was also, apparently, denied access to official government papers that were made available to Scottish police. Furthermore, evidence has emerged that the Iranian regime sponsored the bombing. One former Iranian agent has come forward to claim that it was revenge for the shooting down of an Iranian commercial airliner by a US warship in July 1988. Taken together, all this provides serious grounds for believing that a miscarriage of justice took place.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/lockerbie-families-in-race-to-reveal-truth-behind-flight-103-1771634.html
He has always protested his innocence and is midway through an ongoing appeal against his 2001 conviction at a special court in the Netherlands after the Libyan government handed him over as part of a wider deal that saw sanctions against the North African state lifted.
ed note: really? He says he's innocent? Wow. So does everyone else in prison.
Now, none of this says the guy is innocent. But, I can at least see where there is some doubt whether he did it or not. Hey, I wasn't in the courtroom, I wasn't part of the trial. Maybe things were withheld from the defense team that provided reasonable doubt, maybe they weren't. Just because a witness claimed a reward, doesn't mean what he provided wasn't true. As I stated earlier, part of the problem with a case like this is, most of the witnesses are pretty shady characters. That doesn't mean the witness is lying, but it definitely hurts their credibility. And the Iranians could have been involved, in addition to the convicted prisoner, or could simply be trying to take credit for it. In addition, I didn't realize his government handed over to get sanctions lifted, but that still doesn't mean that he didn't do it.
I can at least see why there is doubt, but that doesn't mean there is any foundation to it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/14 17:04:56
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He was convicted by a panel of Scottish judges.
Sometimes politicians have a collective stroke and make unpopular decisions. Maybe they're cutting a deal under the table or god forbid doing something principled. It's just me but I think it would be better to figure out the circumstances instead of just yelling "lynch the fether".
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/14 17:07:00
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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avantgarde wrote:He was convicted by a panel of Scottish judges.
Sometimes politicians have a collective stroke and make unpopular decisions. Maybe they're cutting a deal under the table or god forbid doing something principled. It's just me but I think it would be better to figure out the circumstances instead of just yelling "lynch the fether".
So? You're putting out speculation and I could say the same about every major conviction or innocence ruling ever done anywhere. Pfft
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/14 17:37:23
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Which doesn't mean you should offhandedly disregard speculation (There's no reason to ever appeal a case it's all just wild speculation!). Especially where there's evidence of shenanigans during his trial. http://i-p-o.org/koechler-lockerbie-appeal_report.htm
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/14 17:56:26
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I think there is a huge difference between letting he man go because he has cancer,... and letting him go because he is innocent or because the trial was screwed up.
They are not letting him go because he was found innocent. They are releasing him because he has cancer and its "compassionate" to let a dying man go home.
Which, I think.. is totally fethed up. He isn't sitting on death row waiting for an injection, he just has to sit there until his sentance is up, or he dies. But wait. He is dying. So let him go home? what?!
Compassion because an illness struck someone after sentancing and years in prison? Compassion for this poor old man with cancer who was found in a trial to be guilty in an act that killed hundreds of people and is considered the largest terrorist act in the UK?
Sure. Now all the rest of the self professing innocent mass murderers will be buying cigarettes like there is no tomorrow in hopes they get cancer so they can go home.
Its not like prison was ment to be punishment for crimes or anything.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/14 18:04:15
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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avantgarde wrote:Which doesn't mean you should offhandedly disregard speculation (There's no reason to ever appeal a case it's all just wild speculation!). Especially where there's evidence of shenanigans during his trial.
http://i-p-o.org/koechler-lockerbie-appeal_report.htm
I would assume necessary appeals have been made and adjudicated as unsustained or whatever UKers call it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/16 09:05:32
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Is it just me, or has he served under a fortnight for every person he's killed?
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"And what is wrong with their life? What on earth is less reprehensible than the life of the Levovs?"
- American Pastoral, Philip Roth
Oh, Death was never enemy of ours!
We laughed at him, we leagued with him, old chum.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/16 09:33:33
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He was sentenced to 27 years prison for that?
wierd, thought he would have gotten at least a life sentence.
I must admit, I find it strange that he wishes to continue his appeal against his crime rather than accept the compassionate release. (Perhaps he really does believe himself to be innocent?)
Anyway, even the worst of killers deserve a bit of compassion. I'm not sure about releasing him scott free, he should probably be kept under surveilance. But he has spent 30 years in prison. Don't sit there and say that a man doesn't change in that time. 30 years does a lot. He's dying, let him have his peace. What more do you want? Automatically Appended Next Post: BTW, not that the USA gives a damn whatever anyone else thinks, but by killing thier criminals they are breaching the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/16 09:44:29
Subject: Lockerbie terrorist bomber 'to be released
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dietrich wrote:Just because there's doubt as to his guilt, it doesn't mean he's innocent either. From the couple articles that I've read, it's not clear that he was or was not involved in the bombing. While the evidence might be shaky, it also doesn't mean it's not true. Whoever murdered the passengers didn't want to get caught, and was smart enough not to leave a trail of breadcrumbs.
But, if he did it, he deserves to die cold, alone, unloved, and unmourned.
So what you are saying is , it doesnt matter if there is a possibility that he is innocent , and the real guilty one gets away.
Aslong as someone is there to account for the 280 people's death anyone would do?
Whats the story ? is he 100% guilty? or there is something wrong with the trial?
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Subject: Lockerbie terrorist bomber 'to be released
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I honestly have no idea about the trial (sounds iffy though), but, having no experience of spending 3 decades in prison and no intention to gain said experience, I think that the man should have the right to make his peace with god (YMMV) spend his last days with his family, and die with a little dignity. Guilty or not. Automatically Appended Next Post: @Lunahound: That is by far the wierdest avatar I've seen you use yet. (Not disturbing wierd, just...wierd confusing wierd)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/16 09:56:27
Subject: Re:Lockerbie terrorist bomber 'to be released
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Here , take a look especially at "Second appeal"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdelbaset_Ali_Mohmed_Al_Megrahi
As i said earlier , this better not be the case of "anyone would do"
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