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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/21 17:34:39
Subject: The Stormlord
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Been Around the Block
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is it really worth the 500-600+ points? it seems amazing on paper but is it good in actual battle? just want to get some opinions before i decide to buy it or not. here is the datasheet for a quick refrence. http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m2440066_Imperial_Guard_Datasheet_-_Stormlord.pdf
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/21 17:39:32
Subject: Re:The Stormlord
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Heavy 15 at BS 3 would yield maybe 7-8 hits. They're AP 3, but still, if a single volley from a superheavy tank won't demolish a single squad of Marines, it's not worth it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/21 17:50:09
Subject: Re:The Stormlord
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Been Around the Block
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i kinda figured it was one of those to good to be true things..but i think in this case it really is to good haha. just wish the punisher lrbt was that good =/
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/21 19:13:25
Subject: The Stormlord
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Tinkering Tech-Priest
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However there is a rule that if it doesn't move it can fire it's main cannon twice. Also, don't forget the excellent sponson weapons and transport capacity. I personally would take a traditional baneblade mainly because it looks better, and I get to use the pizza template.
Then again, having a gun which can fire 30 strength 6 AP 3 shots is quite good fun.
Up to you, really! Do you want to mow down infantry and light vehicles with a huge gatling cannon, or with a great big shell cannon?
Also, transported troops can shoot brilliantly without getting shot up because it's open-topped. That probably justifies the extra points!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/21 19:15:50
Subject: The Stormlord
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Ardensfax wrote:However there is a rule that if it doesn't move it can fire it's main cannon twice. Also, don't forget the excellent sponson weapons and transport capacity. I personally would take a traditional baneblade mainly because it looks better, and I get to use the pizza template.
Then again, having a gun which can fire 30 strength 6 AP 3 shots is quite good fun.
Up to you, really! Do you want to mow down infantry and light vehicles with a huge gatling cannon, or with a great big shell cannon?
Also, transported troops can shoot brilliantly without getting shot up because it's open-topped. That probably justifies the extra points!
This is true, put some dudez in it and they can shoot. And it CAN fire that gun twice if it doesn't move.
But even so I think I'd prefer the slew of templates used by the Baneblade...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/21 19:22:12
Subject: Re:The Stormlord
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Been Around the Block
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well alot of my friends are playing ork and nids soooo pretty much only reason im getting the stormlord is for the uber dakka cannon haha, plus the 40+ transport is epic. just wish it had a high BS Automatically Appended Next Post: oops, 40 is its maximum transport size
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/21 22:12:17
Subject: The Stormlord
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It depends really on your style of play: If you need to lay down ferocious firepower which scares the gak out of your opponent, then take a Baneblade or Shadowsword. However, if you need to transport about 4 squads of Guardsmen all at once in solid armour, while laying down swathes of anti-infantry fire, then go for the Stormlord.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/21 22:18:59
Subject: Re:The Stormlord
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Sword-Wielding Bloodletter of Khorne
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I have used it before and really liked it. Great anti infantry tank.
Mine however was orked up and was in my ork army. I would put ether shoota boys or lootas in it. That thing shooting plus all the guys in back shooting...it was pretty mean to say the least. Load it up with some heavy weapons and go to town.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/22 19:30:14
Subject: The Stormlord
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Impassive Inquisitorial Interrogator
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Meh, I bought one as I already have an Armorcast Shadowsword and Baneblade/Shadowsword combo. Didn't need an extra Shadowsword. Bought 2 Baneblades that I made into a Stormhammer. Mainly I bought the Stormlord for coolness. I think it looks great and is pretty nasty. As others have pointed out, it can fire up to 30 str6ap3 shots which will just melt marines or anything else really out there. Besides, it can carry 40 people, 20 of which can fire from the platform. Put a few heavy weapon squads in there and do some damage!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/22 23:12:00
Subject: The Stormlord
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Been Around the Block
texas
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can morters shoot out of it? if so...im putting like 6 of em in there :p
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/22 23:15:53
Subject: The Stormlord
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Fill it with broadsides with railguns.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/22 23:17:51
Subject: The Stormlord
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It's probably my favourite superheavy tank. Would it be a problem if I convert it to Chaos? I mean, rules, etc.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/22 23:18:57
Subject: The Stormlord
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Been Around the Block
texas
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^....BRILLIANT!! ahaha but really are morters any good? they cause pinning if they wound right? (im a rookie in playing so dont know everything yet)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/23 14:14:31
Subject: The Stormlord
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IronChaos wrote:It's probably my favourite superheavy tank. Would it be a problem if I convert it to Chaos? I mean, rules, etc.
Shouldn't be a problem, after all Chaos does steal stuff off the Imperium anyway, just claim its crew became corrupted and now worship Chaos. It's what I do with my Black Legion Stormlord
@ OP I've been using a Stormlord in Apocalypse games pretty much since it was released. As previous posters have mentioned it isn't as out and out destructive as other superheavy tanks. However this can lead, in some cases, to it not being viewed as a major threat and largely ignored by enemy anti tank units. My opponents tend to aim towards the Monoliths and Baneblade fielded by my team as they view them as a bigger problem due to more template weapons being thrown about by those models.
This means I can often take out a few squads a game with decent rolling and firing the main gun twice.
If you really want to try a fun tactic, use the flank march asset to bring the Stormlord (packed with lots of troops) on behind enemy lines. Preferably aimed at a 'weakly' (if possible) held objective. This can throw the enemy plans into complete disarray if timed well
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/23 14:30:50
Subject: The Stormlord
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Been Around the Block
texas
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what units would you guys recommend putting into the stormlord?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/23 14:31:14
Subject: The Stormlord
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Stealthy Space Wolves Scout
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Its a shame power armoured passengers no-longer remove the open topped rule or I'd have 4 full units of Marines on board one, Sadly can't justify the expense as apoc seems to have died out in sunny Suffolk
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/23 14:32:04
Subject: The Stormlord
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Been Around the Block
texas
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what units would you guys recommend putting into the stormlord?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/23 14:55:47
Subject: The Stormlord
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Devestating Grey Knight Dreadknight
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Zackman_88 wrote:what units would you guys recommend putting into the stormlord?
Heavy weapons teams, lots of autocannons and stuff. Maybe if your facing a truly unstoppable hoard then a master of the ordnance (this is apocalypse people).
Although i see a baneblade stopping a horde long before a storm lord does, storm lords are cool
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/23 15:10:57
Subject: Re:The Stormlord
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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So it seems the general concensus here is, "Although the Baneblade's templates are more useful against horde-type armies, the Stormlord's 30 S6AP3 shots can shred MEqs with impunity."
There you go.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/23 15:11:55
Subject: The Stormlord
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Been Around the Block
texas
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does a HWT count as two people shooting?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/23 15:24:44
Subject: The Stormlord
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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AFAIK, yes. The codex states that the HW team counts as 2 models for transport purposes, which to me suggests that when the team shoots from a firepoint, it counts as 2 models firing from the firepoint.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/23 15:24:52
Subject: The Stormlord
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Zackman_88 wrote:does a HWT count as two people shooting?
No, it's counted as one person shooting, but has two wounds to represent the two crewmen on the gun.
I believe for transport purposes it counts as two models, but shooting, no, just one person.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/23 15:39:22
Subject: The Stormlord
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Been Around the Block
texas
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so i can have twenty of autocannons shooting out of my stormlord in addition to the side weapons and main gun?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/23 15:43:51
Subject: The Stormlord
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Storm Lord is my favorite super heavy probably not the best..
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/23 18:13:50
Subject: The Stormlord
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Stalwart Veteran Guard Sergeant
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I like the stormlord for its troop capacity but the doomhammer is my favorite a Str10 AP1 carries 25 troops is good for me to carrie 2 vet squads and my CCS leaving my chimera to carrie a PBS if I go with the doomhammer
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/23 18:35:04
Subject: The Stormlord
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Been Around the Block
texas
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hmm i didnt even see the stats for that till now ahah its pretty good also. to bad only 10 units can shoot out. but still its pretty good hmmm idk what to make now. can you put magnets on the gun for a quick swap or is that hard to do?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/23 19:34:58
Subject: The Stormlord
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Regular Dakkanaut
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DEATH89 wrote:Its a shame power armoured passengers no-longer remove the open topped rule or I'd have 4 full units of Marines on board one, Sadly can't justify the expense as apoc seems to have died out in sunny Suffolk
its not actually open topped, its just open topped for the purposes of disembarking
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/23 21:29:19
Subject: The Stormlord
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Repentia Mistress
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Ennkay wrote:DEATH89 wrote:Its a shame power armoured passengers no-longer remove the open topped rule or I'd have 4 full units of Marines on board one, Sadly can't justify the expense as apoc seems to have died out in sunny Suffolk
its not actually open topped, its just open topped for the purposes of disembarking
Yeah I use a custom Stormlord at 700 points made for my Battle Sisters so the Mega-bolter has BS4 amongst other things. I have one squad of 20 hiding in the back. 36 bolter shots with Divine Guidance can be truly awesome. I've killed Mephiston, a Talos, and few other nasties this way with them this way.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/23 21:41:22
Subject: Re:The Stormlord
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Dakka Veteran
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Or, you could get the Shadow sword/Storm Lord Plastic kit from GW. It has the guns for just about everything except the Baneblade.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/24 05:34:37
Subject: Re:The Stormlord
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Mutilatin' Mad Dok
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Ok the thing has 60" range on its main guns, if you dont move it you can fire 30shots AP3, it can carry either 20 or 30 troops (to lazy to look at the sheet) I own one of these things and i found that it tears apart infantry like a chainsaw to warm butter.
edit. wait isnt their ome cheesy thing that the IG can do called Ace crews? cause ive seen somethin on em before and there was one that uped BS to 4 mind you this was a few years ago id seen this, might be in an older imperial armoure book, or a white dwarf mag, but i do know i ahve definatly seen somthin on em, it just kinda makes it a command tank with a +1 to a stat of your choice (thus the ace crew nanme comes in, one was an ace gunnery crew i think)
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