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hello i have designed and started to build a huge skaven war machine called the crystal creauture its like a dreadnought but got pillares a custom rattling gun and a large creauture with a body made of warpstone and a rat orger head as well as a drill arm any ideares to help sorry no pictures my camra dosent work and i need some rules
help me

not sure this is the right forum, what exactly are you trying to make this creation count as?

a war machine um round forum wich one should i be in

err... okay.

The mention of "War Machine" in the forum you had posted this on actually refers to a game of that title, not the WFB classification. No biggie however, it's easily fixed and moved...

..et voila...

.. Could you please take a bit more time when typing out your posts and use proper punctuationa and grammar, if you do so you'll find you get much more help and interaction with other Dakka members.

OK, there's three ways you can do this:

1) Totally invent a creature. Combine the rules for a rat ogre with the rules for a ratling gun and give it a ward save for the fact that it's made of metal. Maybe add a rule that it has to be near a warplock engineer or clan moulder hero. Or start completely from scratch. Just assign stats you think are reasonable, and a few extra rules for the gun. This will be fun, and you can let your imagination run riot, but it'll be unbalanced as it hasn't been playtested. You'll either have to let your opponent agree the points cost, or let your opponent use a similar creature to balance it. You'll only be able to play it with your opponent's clear agreement.

You're the best placed person to do this, as you designed the model and you have an idea for how it "works".

2) Use a "counts-as" rule. Pick a model from any army book that looks like it has similar rules to the monster you imagine, and use that. I think the Hellcannon might suit you. You would still need your opponent's permission, because each army is designed with its own weaknesses, and picking from another army book would unbalance that. You would, however, know that the rules and points cost are broadly fair and have been playtested in battle.

3) Use a "counts-as" skaven rule. This is the most boring option, but the fairest. Just pick another skaven model and use the crystal creature to represent that. (I don't have the latest codex, but do you still have access to that robot with a flamethrower?)

This will be fine with most opponents, unless they are TFG, but you'll probably struggle in tournaments.

Hope that helps,

Ludo

doctorludo has an idea with number 3, use it with Bonerippers stats, but swap the Warpfire thrower to the Ratling gun!

and make it so he doesn't have to buddy up with Thanqual ALLL The time ^^

ok i will give number 3 ago

Post pictures and your ideas though right ;-)?

you haz intrigued me ^^

Depending on how big it is, counting it as a Giant may be an option, or an Ogre Manhunter.

Both are Dogs Of War and therefore can be used in your army.

8th edition rulebook removed dogs of war

how do you add pictures

hers the pic as asked haven built the creature yet just the continment suit


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so what do you think creautre coming soon

one of my planz

Add a warpfire thrower for close range assault

gun is now gatling picutres soon

So that is the machine that holds the Crystal Creature, but it is not the Crystal Creature itself right?

It appears at least in your photos that you are using a hot glue gun to put this together. If that assumption is correct then if I were you I would switch to super glue, because it is much cleaner.

I think that the drill part could use a bigger point than the goblin spear. I also think the plague furnace looks a little big compared to the rest of the model.

Overall I think it is a good gaming idea. I also think that your model is good as well, a very skaven/orky construct. Clan Skyre would be proud.

Edit: Oh and don't forget that the base needs to be square for Warhammer. Given the size of it I would say a 50mm base should fit.

What do you think i should use as the drill bit.

Very nice, maybe use my Skaven Hell abomonatiion as a basis? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/326459.page

ShivanAngel wrote:8th edition rulebook removed dogs of war

Not to get off topic but I assumed Dogs of War could still just be taken as rare choices. At least that's what my gaming friends and I have been doing.

And i think this is a great idea, making units that don't exist adds flavor don't you think?

grotsrus wrote:What do you think i should use as the drill bit.

Maybe a Ironclad Dreadnought claw/seismic hammer.

Bengrold Stonefist wrote:

ShivanAngel wrote:8th edition rulebook removed dogs of war

Not to get off topic but I assumed Dogs of War could still just be taken as rare choices. At least that's what my gaming friends and I have been doing.

Must be a house rule for you guys.

After a lot of though i have re built the drill and gun. now for the creature
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This thread isent used any more LOL i can talk to my self.


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Yes this thread is used by me.


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HELLO me.
what do think i should do to it


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I dont no me DIFFICULT HOW ABOUT YOU BUILD THE CREATURE.


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OK i will build the creature.
bye for now


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bye.

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dude... your spelling is attrocious. you really need to take more time with your posts.

You're idea is okay. I get where you're coming from. but it pains me to have that happening here. save it for facebook.

Have what happening here.

Captain Solon wrote:dude... your spelling is attrocious. you really need to take more time with your posts.

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Captain Solon wrote:dude... your spelling is attrocious. you really need to take more time with your posts.

You're idea is okay. I get where you're coming from. but it pains me to have that happening here. save it for facebook.

Quoted for beautiful lack of sef-awareness.

Nurglitch wrote:

Captain Solon wrote:dude... your spelling is attrocious. you really need to take more time with your posts.

You're idea is okay. I get where you're coming from. but it pains me to have that happening here. save it for facebook.

Quoted for beautiful lack of sef-awareness.

Also quoted for beautiful lack of self-awareness.



(sorry Nurglitch, but it had to be done )