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2010/10/27 14:42:30
Subject: Trying to decide which chaper.
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
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I can not decide whether to go with a fire army like the Sallys or a sneaky face ripping army like the Raven Gaurd. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
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 1500 pts of unpainted proxied goodness W-2 L-1 D-2
DQ:90SG-M---B--I+Pw40k10#----D+A/sWD-R-T(S)DM+
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2010/10/27 15:08:15
Subject: Re:Trying to decide which chaper.
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Stormin' Stompa
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I haven't seen many raven guard.
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2010/10/27 15:21:38
Subject: Re:Trying to decide which chaper.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Salamanders have cool fluff, a nice color scheme, and top-tier rules in the form of Vulkan. Pretty much all around awesome.
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2010/10/27 15:34:58
Subject: Trying to decide which chaper.
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Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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Go Raven guard! :-) they are not all that often used and have some good special rules that you just don't see all the time, they can certainly be a suprise for those not initiated with their tactics, more than one 'powerful' army has crumbled against the sneaky speed and 'suprise here we are' moves! they may only be marines when it comes to cc but Shrike can make your enemies sweat. i've got some (which i'm selling I think) and they've been awesome fun to play with! :-)
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" I will constantly have those in my head telling me how lazy and ugly and whorish I am. You sir, are a true friend " - KingCracker
"Nah, I'm just way too lazy to stand up so I keep sitting and paint" - Sigur
"I think the NMM technique with metals is just MNMM. Same sound I make while eating a good pizza" - Whalemusic360 |
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2010/10/27 15:45:30
Subject: Re:Trying to decide which chaper.
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Chalice-Wielding Sanguinary High Priest
Arlington TX, but want to be back in Seattle WA
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Both are pretty sweet. But I think Salamanders are much more common than Raven Guard. I am the type of person that chooses the army based on look and characters rather than tactics...Im more into the presentation of the army...so personally would probably go Sals. Just depends whats more important to you I suppose....gameplay or hobby?
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4250 points of Blood Angels goodness, sweet and silky W12-L6-D4
 1000 points of Teil-Shan (my own scheme) Eldar Craftworld in progress
 800 points of unassembled Urban themed Imperial Guard
 650 points of my do-it-yourself Tempest Guard
 675 points of Commoraghs finest!
The Dude - "Jackie Treehorn treats objects like women, man."
Lord Helmet - "I bet she gives great helmet."
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2010/10/27 15:49:54
Subject: Re:Trying to decide which chaper.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I'm a fan of both, by honestly Shrike is my favorite character in the vanilla codex, and while I prefer the Salamanders' color scheme, Shrike's rules appeal to me more as well. Raven Guard may have a boring color scheme, but other than that I prefer them.
Not by much.
But there it is.
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2010/10/27 15:51:09
Subject: Re:Trying to decide which chaper.
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2010/10/27 16:21:45
Subject: Trying to decide which chaper.
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
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I might have to have two marine armys!
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1500 pts of unpainted proxied goodness W-2 L-1 D-2
DQ:90SG-M---B--I+Pw40k10#----D+A/sWD-R-T(S)DM+
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2010/10/27 16:52:12
Subject: Re:Trying to decide which chaper.
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Imperial Admiral
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A proper Vulkan list is probably the most competitive build in the SM Codex, so Salamanders have that going for them.
However, the Raven Guard are just flat-out cool in fluff terms, and Shrike has the best quote in 40K history.
Really depends on what you want.
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2010/10/27 17:07:52
Subject: Re:Trying to decide which chaper.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Seaward wrote:A proper Vulkan list is probably the most competitive build in the SM Codex, so Salamanders have that going for them.
However, the Raven Guard are just flat-out cool in fluff terms, and Shrike has the best quote in 40K history.
Really depends on what you want.
" Most competitive build in the SM Codex" might be a bit of an overstatement. That's a codex with a LOT of good builds.
But there's no doubt a Vulkan list is more effective than most Shrike lists.
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2014/03/06 16:27:26
Subject: Trying to decide which chaper.
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Renegade Inquisitor de Marche
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You must admit though Fleet-LC termies are scary.
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Dakka Bingo! By Ouze
"You are the best at flying things"-Kanluwen
"Further proof that Purple is a fething brilliant super villain  " -KingCracker
"Purp.. Im pretty sure I have a gun than can reach you...."-Nicorex
"That's not really an apocalypse. That's just Europe."-Grakmar
"almost as good as winning free cake at the tea drinking contest for an Englishman." -Reds8n
Seal up your lips and give no words but mum.
Equip, Reload. Do violence.
Watch for Gerry. |
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2010/10/27 17:11:01
Subject: Trying to decide which chaper.
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Chalice-Wielding Sanguinary High Priest
Arlington TX, but want to be back in Seattle WA
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ToxicsLayer wrote:I might have to have two marine armys!
Go for it! That was my problem....you look at different codices and colors schemes, you start reading the fluff and pretty soon GW has you hooked on several armies you want to build. Its a shame that GW doesnt also sell 'spare time' to build and paint all of these minis! 
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4250 points of Blood Angels goodness, sweet and silky W12-L6-D4
1000 points of Teil-Shan (my own scheme) Eldar Craftworld in progress
800 points of unassembled Urban themed Imperial Guard
650 points of my do-it-yourself Tempest Guard
675 points of Commoraghs finest!
The Dude - "Jackie Treehorn treats objects like women, man."
Lord Helmet - "I bet she gives great helmet."
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2010/10/27 17:20:29
Subject: Trying to decide which chaper.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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in 2008, when i conned the wife into letting me buy the Battle Company box set (first ever GW purchase.. .what a mistake) my plan, was to sell off a couple of the rhinos, buy a bunch of Drop Pods (especially when rumors were confirmed that they were indeed coming out) and run a dual chapter, combined force army of Salamanders, and Raven Guard. I was going more based on color scheme, and fluff (as i dont use special characters)
Thing is though, if you look at my shelves now.. there are no RG and no Sallies, because they are all Iron Snakes. Try out a couple test minis, see if you like how your painting style turns up on those minis. You may find that while the RG is a "boring" scheme, you can make them look 10x better than your salamanders. You may also find that you just want to use the special characters rules, and run your own custom (or other GW created) chapter. But really, i would suggest you do a couple of test minis.
Victorus aut Mortis!
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2010/10/27 17:30:22
Subject: Trying to decide which chaper.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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purplefood wrote:You must admit though Fleet-LC termies are scary.
Also expensive.
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2010/10/27 17:34:52
Subject: Trying to decide which chaper.
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Renegade Inquisitor de Marche
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SaintHazard wrote:purplefood wrote:You must admit though Fleet-LC termies are scary.
Also expensive.
Ahhh man, all these negative waves you got are killin' me man.
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Dakka Bingo! By Ouze
"You are the best at flying things"-Kanluwen
"Further proof that Purple is a fething brilliant super villain " -KingCracker
"Purp.. Im pretty sure I have a gun than can reach you...."-Nicorex
"That's not really an apocalypse. That's just Europe."-Grakmar
"almost as good as winning free cake at the tea drinking contest for an Englishman." -Reds8n
Seal up your lips and give no words but mum.
Equip, Reload. Do violence.
Watch for Gerry. |
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2010/10/29 16:43:59
Subject: Re:Trying to decide which chaper.
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Fresh-Faced New User
SanFrancisco
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Salamanders!
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2010/10/30 00:15:20
Subject: Trying to decide which chaper.
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Pyro Pilot of a Triach Stalker
New Jersey
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Wow, my friend is in the same predicament, but he's leaning towards Ravenguard. I voted for Salamanders just for the fluff. He'stan's quest to find the 8 magical relics sounds like a JRPG plot. I wonder if he's the child of destiny too...
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 "Order. Unity. Obedience. We taught the galaxy these things, and we shall do so again."
"They are not your worst nightmare; they are your every nightmare."
 "Let the galaxy burn!"
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2010/10/30 02:55:24
Subject: Re:Trying to decide which chaper.
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Twisted Trueborn with Blaster
Webway
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Dark angels because nobody plays with a crap codex.
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2010/10/30 03:36:58
Subject: Trying to decide which chaper.
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Pyro Pilot of a Triach Stalker
New Jersey
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^Hey my brother might start DA :(
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"Order. Unity. Obedience. We taught the galaxy these things, and we shall do so again."
"They are not your worst nightmare; they are your every nightmare."
"Let the galaxy burn!"
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2010/10/30 04:51:37
Subject: Re:Trying to decide which chaper.
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Wicked Ghast
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Silver Skulls FTW!
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 Orks: approx 4000 pts
 Uruk-hai force(700 pts)
about 700 points of Vampire Counts
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2010/10/30 05:42:08
Subject: Trying to decide which chaper.
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Ancient Ultramarine Venerable Dreadnought
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ULTRAMARINES GODDAMMIT!
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2010/10/30 08:12:24
Subject: Trying to decide which chaper.
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Dark Angels Librarian with Book of Secrets
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Vanilla marines suck... You want a real challenge? Go Dark Angels. Then, in a couple of months (hopefully), when GW finally releases a new codex for them, you can already have the models set up for them, and everyone will say, "hey, you have the new uber-army!"
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2010/10/30 08:28:52
Subject: Trying to decide which chaper.
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Calculating Commissar
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Ultramarines. You can do any play style of army and it still fits the fluff.
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2010/10/30 08:41:17
Subject: Trying to decide which chaper.
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Dark Angels Librarian with Book of Secrets
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Happygrunt wrote:Ultramarines. You can do any play style of army and it still fits the fluff.
Fluff of... what? Al the OP asked was which chapter he should play, so to what fluff are you referring?
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2010/10/30 15:26:20
Subject: Trying to decide which chaper.
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Gnawing Giant Rat
the Netherlands
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I'd go for Dark Angels or Raven guard
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2010/10/30 16:36:58
Subject: Trying to decide which chaper.
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Calculating Commissar
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SoloFalcon1138 wrote:Happygrunt wrote:Ultramarines. You can do any play style of army and it still fits the fluff.
Fluff of... what? Al the OP asked was which chapter he should play, so to what fluff are you referring?
The Ultramarines. They do everything well and are leaders in it according to their fluff. OP is building a salamanders or raven guard army, so it will have some fluff in it because it will be themed on one of the ideals of those chapters.
IN all seriousness, pick the chapter you like more. If you cant like their story, you wont like playing them.
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2010/10/30 22:36:58
Subject: Re:Trying to decide which chaper.
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Resourceful Gutterscum
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shrike has the best quote in the codex-What is it.
soz can't work out how to quote
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2010/10/30 22:43:53
Subject: Trying to decide which chaper.
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Death-Dealing Devastator
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Be original. Do one of the lesser used or known chapters. In the back of the 40k rulebook they name a few.
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2010/10/30 23:22:16
Subject: Trying to decide which chaper.
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Fresh-Faced New User
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ironhand45 wrote:Be original. Do one of the lesser used or known chapters. In the back of the 40k rulebook they name a few.
I'd have to agree with this. Do one of the lesser known chapters and surprise people.
royal house wrote:shrike has the best quote in the codex-What is it.
soz can't work out how to quote
"Wherever you tread, tread lightly, We are closer than you think, and our blades are sharpe." - Shrike
As for what you're asking, I like both chapter's fluff to be honest. I like the look of the Salamanders and the fluff of the Raven Guard and vice-verse. Heck mix em both up a little bit. (though I don't know how'd that'd work so I'll leave to those with more experience than me  ).
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2010/11/02 06:48:17
Subject: Trying to decide which chaper.
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Wicked Ghast
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SoloFalcon1138 wrote:Vanilla marines suck... You want a real challenge? Go Dark Angels. Then, in a couple of months (hopefully), when GW finally releases a new codex for them, you can already have the models set up for them, and everyone will say, "hey, you have the new uber-army!"
how about.............................................not?
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Orks: approx 4000 pts
Uruk-hai force(700 pts)
about 700 points of Vampire Counts
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