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After reading this....

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1334512/

...I began to wonder..is there absolutely no imagination left in the film industry?...

I realize that may be a bit of an over reach (sure there are "Original" films being released)...but it does seem that every other month a "re-make" of some film is being released (or at least being announced).

Now...I get the " Sell what sells" angle and I realize that " Nothing is really original.."...But FFS....it seems as if filmmakers are scrapping the bottom of the creative well.

So...why this trend?...

FITZZ wrote: After reading this....

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1334512/

...I began to wonder..is there absolutely no imagination left in the film industry?...

I realize that may be a bit of an over reach (sure there are "Original" films being released)...but it does seem that every other month a "re-make" of some film is being released (or at least being announced).

Now...I get the " Sell what sells" angle and I realize that " Nothing is really original.."...But FFS....it seems as if filmmakers are scrapping the bottom of the creative well.

So...why this trend?...

Especialy that one, that way! if you were lucky enough to see the first one i think you'll hate this one, imho.
it does seem as no original thought or ideas exhist for some reason. as for why: lazy or cheap buck maybe?
and the only thing bugs almost as much are all the Prequels.

Well Dad, I don't know. I thought it was bad when the horror industry died, then the 3-D stuff..

It's all why I only watch movies from 10-20+years ago (with the exception of Doomsday).

Oh ,I've seen the original "Arthur" a dozen times and really enjoy it...
How Russel Brand is supposed to "replace" Dudley Moore is beyond me.


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A Black Ram wrote:Well Dad, I don't know. I thought it was bad when the horror industry died, then the 3-D stuff..

It's all why I only watch movies from 10-20+years ago (with the exception of Doomsday).

...Why can't more youth be like you.?

Rule 21, my friend.

Anyway, it's Katy Perry's hubby, so she probably bribed his ass into this hampster-dropping of a movie.


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A Black Ram wrote:
It's all why I only watch movies from 10-20+years ago (with the exception of Doomsday).

Zombieland?

Zombieland was a great movie!
Also what the hell with spamming of threads recently.

Chowderhead wrote:Rule 21, my friend.

Anyway, it's Katy Perry's hubby, so she probably bribed his ass into this hampster-dropping of a film.

But..."Arthur" ..without Dudley Moore or John Gielgud..??
...That's like making "True Grit" with out John Wayne...wait...

A large portion of a movies promotion goes into getting people interested in the movie and getting a synopsis of it out. With a re-make you have a lot of that done already.

As much as I think re-makes are naff I'll probably see this. Russel Brand is a funny mofo.

England however still seems to be going strong in the comedy department other than that, I agree FITZZ all these remakes are getting annoying eventually if this keeps up Hollywood is going to have to make more

classics or risk running out of remakes.

FITZZ wrote: Oh ,I've seen the original "Arthur" a dozen times and really enjoy it...
How Russel Brand is supposed to "replace" Dudley Moore is beyond me.


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A Black Ram wrote:Well Dad, I don't know. I thought it was bad when the horror industry died, then the 3-D stuff..

It's all why I only watch movies from 10-20+years ago (with the exception of Doomsday).

...Why can't more youth be like you.?

I wonder this alot. Why do I not act like primitive hormonal monkeys like 99% of the kids at my school?

..Anyways, No, I don't really like Zombieland...now, how about Ben Hur?

From Dudley Moore comic talent to Russel Brand ...
Russel Brand?

Russel Brand
*thinks*


What does he do exactly?

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:From Dudley Moore comic talent to Russel Brand ...
Russel Brand?

Russel Brand
*thinks*


What does he do exactly?

We thought you guys (across the pond) knew?
he said he was with you....

Cheesecat wrote:England however still seems to be going strong in the comedy department other than that, I agree FITZZ all these remakes are getting annoying eventually if this keeps up Hollywood is going to have to make more

classics or risk running out of remakes.

It might be part me being an old cynical and jaded ...but between remakes and comic book movies I begin to wonder if there is a screen writer anywhere with a "new" script...
...and if not...why??

Obviously at some point the film idustry had a smidge of creativity...you didn't see film makers in the 60's and 70's " remaking" Gone with the Wind...

FITZZ wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:England however still seems to be going strong in the comedy department other than that, I agree FITZZ all these remakes are getting annoying eventually if this keeps up Hollywood is going to have to make more

classics or risk running out of remakes.

It might be part me being an old cynical and jaded ...but between remakes and comic book movies I begin to wonder if there is a screen writer anywhere with a "new" script...
...and if not...why??

Obviously at some point the film idustry had a smidge of creativity...you didn't see film makers in the 60's and 70's " remaking" Gone with the Wind...

To be honest though, a lot of movies back then were film adaptations of novels.

alarmingrick wrote:

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:From Dudley Moore comic talent to Russel Brand ...
Russel Brand?

Russel Brand
*thinks*


What does he do exactly?

We thought you guys (across the pond) knew?
he said he was with you....

Us Americans think that he's funny because you all think he's funny.

Right?

Brand seems to have created for himself image of bed hopping celeb than for having any real talent.

He is in the new film version of The Tempest, which looks like it may be good despite Brand's appearance in it.
In a relatively short space of time he has managed to get the lead role in this film

Have no idea what his acting experience or abilities are like.
As far as I knew he didn't have any. He may yet prove to be excellent at acting, but I fear it will just be what Brand is usually all about which is Russell Brand.

Cheesecat wrote:

FITZZ wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:England however still seems to be going strong in the comedy department other than that, I agree FITZZ all these remakes are getting annoying eventually if this keeps up Hollywood is going to have to make more

classics or risk running out of remakes.

It might be part me being an old cynical and jaded ...but between remakes and comic book movies I begin to wonder if there is a screen writer anywhere with a "new" script...
...and if not...why??

Obviously at some point the film idustry had a smidge of creativity...you didn't see film makers in the 60's and 70's " remaking" Gone with the Wind...

To be honest though, a lot of movies back then were film adaptations of novels.

In some cases...granted,and in others they were a re-telling of stories that had already been told ( Magnifecent 7=Seven Samuri)....but lately it seems were getting remakes of movies based on novel written about things that have already been written about.

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:Brand seems to have created for himself image of bed hopping celeb than for having any real talent.

He is in the new film version of The Tempest, which looks like it may be good despite Brand's appearance in it.
In a relatively short space of time he has managed to get the lead role in this film

Have no idea what his acting experience or abilities are like.
As far as I knew he didn't have any. He may yet prove to be excellent at acting, but I fear it will just be what Brand is usually all about which is Russell Brand.

The only thing I know that he's good at, is putting his "brand" on hot girls and looking ridiculous while doing it.

Well, I for one thought that the new true grit was far superiour to the original.

FITZZ wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:

FITZZ wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:England however still seems to be going strong in the comedy department other than that, I agree FITZZ all these remakes are getting annoying eventually if this keeps up Hollywood is going to have to make more

classics or risk running out of remakes.

It might be part me being an old cynical and jaded ...but between remakes and comic book movies I begin to wonder if there is a screen writer anywhere with a "new" script...
...and if not...why??

Obviously at some point the film idustry had a smidge of creativity...you didn't see film makers in the 60's and 70's " remaking" Gone with the Wind...

To be honest though, a lot of movies back then were film adaptations of novels.

In some cases...granted,and in others they were a re-telling of stories that had already been told ( Magnifecent 7=Seven Samuri)....but lately it seems were getting remakes of movies based on novel written about things that have already been written about.

Or worse remakes of a remake and remakes of recent films (Death at a Funeral).

In the past 2 years, 86% of all theater released movies were either remakes, re imaginings or sequels.

I love the internet

rubiksnoob wrote:Well, I for one thought that the new true grit was far superiour to the original.

I get what your saying rubiks...I myself enjoyed the remake of Dawn of the Dead...
...But my main point is..why bother with the remake?...I would have been perfectly content with the old 1978 version of the film...and been much more pleased with a "New story" with " New settings,characters,directions,etc..."...even if it was the same Genre...

Remakes of a remake of a film I've never heard of... happens all the damned time. Mind you I'm not exactly a movie goer...

BuFFo wrote:In the past 2 years, 86% of all theater released movies were either remakes, re imaginings or sequels.

I love the internet

I had no idea the number was THAT high...but,that's what I'm on about...where's the imagination?...where's the creativity?...I guess they're not important so long as the money machine keeps rolling.

FITZZ wrote:

BuFFo wrote:In the past 2 years, 86% of all theater released movies were either remakes, re imaginings or sequels.

I love the internet

I had no idea the number was THAT high...but,that's what I'm on about...where's the imagination?...where's the creativity?...I guess they're not important so long as the money machine keeps rolling.

Feth I would be happy if Hollywood started making more novel to movie adaptations more often than sequels, some of the best cinema was created that way (Lord of the Rings, James Bond, etc) sure it's not completely

original but sometimes it's nice to see someones interpretation on the big screen.

If that figure is correct it is appalling. Are you sure about that?

However it depends on the film. The remake of Psycho that re enacted the Hitchcock movie seemed pointless to me. It could be argued thatPeter Jackson's Dambusters film is based on a historical event, so is not technically a remake of the 1950's movie as such but a retelling. With modern special effects it should be worthwhile.

84% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

Cheesecat wrote:

FITZZ wrote:

BuFFo wrote:In the past 2 years, 86% of all theater released movies were either remakes, re imaginings or sequels.

I love the internet

I had no idea the number was THAT high...but,that's what I'm on about...where's the imagination?...where's the creativity?...I guess they're not important so long as the money machine keeps rolling.

Feth I would be happy if Hollywood started making more novel to movie adaptations more often than sequels, some of the best cinema was created that way (Lord of the Rings, James Bond, etc) sure it's not completely

original but sometimes it's nice to see someones interpretation on the big screen.

At least a novel to film adaptation requires some imagination...an ability to translate a character of the written page and bring him/her to "life"...
How much imagination does making a remake take..?
" Let's see...in the original Smokey and the Bandit...Bandit drove fast in a Trans -Am...but...kids today...they like Lambos ...so let's have him drive one of those instead...Oh...and he's got to loose the cowboy hat...kids hate country music."

FITZZ wrote:

BuFFo wrote:In the past 2 years, 86% of all theater released movies were either remakes, re imaginings or sequels.

I love the internet

I had no idea the number was THAT high...but,that's what I'm on about...where's the imagination?...where's the creativity?...I guess they're not important so long as the money machine keeps rolling.

Yes sir, this is a shyte-you-not-fact either.

It all has to do with risk versus reward. Your script won't get green lit now a days unless it carries little to no risk, and brand recognition almost guarantees a return on the investment.

Yogi Bear anyone?

FITZZ wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:

FITZZ wrote:

BuFFo wrote:In the past 2 years, 86% of all theater released movies were either remakes, re imaginings or sequels.

I love the internet

I had no idea the number was THAT high...but,that's what I'm on about...where's the imagination?...where's the creativity?...I guess they're not important so long as the money machine keeps rolling.

Feth I would be happy if Hollywood started making more novel to movie adaptations more often than sequels, some of the best cinema was created that way (Lord of the Rings, James Bond, etc) sure it's not completely

original but sometimes it's nice to see someones interpretation on the big screen.

At least a novel to film adaptation requires some imagination...an ability to translate a character of the written page and bring him/her to "life"...
How much imagination does making a remake take..?
" Let's see...in the original Smokey and the Bandit...Bandit drove fast in a Trans -Am...but...kids today...they like Lambos ...so let's have him drive one of those instead...Oh...and he's got to loose the cowboy hat...kids hate country music."