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1 of Our best sniper teams vs. 1 Vindicare Assassin.

3 terms: Jungle, City and Desert.

Who would win?

NOTE: battle is only at range, no CC. All technological assets are welcome.

Vindicare.
No contest.
Not even a close one.

EDIT: Also, think you mean contest not conquest...

Vindicare could kill all 3 of them in under a few seconds. They are taken at a young age, like space marines, and littlerally have one mind set: Kill with a rifle, without being seen, quickly.

I like how you say sniper team as in "multiple people". Sniper teams are 2 men. So they really don't have a numbers advantage. Now say 10 snipers all working together...

Oh and the vindi has it easy

Even if it was 10 working together the Vindicare would still win.

Just for the sake of argument I'm going to say the "Earth" Snipers, mostly because there is two of them, one to spot the target and one to kill it. There may also be a third which is considered a "flanker" who observes areas not visible to the sniper or spotter and assists with the team's rear security.

Lets see... highly trained assassin, one of the best in the galaxy, wearing a suit that blends in with his surroundings and makes him invisible to known sensing equipment, using a rifle that fires rounds that can penetrate almost any material in the 40k universe, and contain miniature cogitator targeting-spirits that track the target, making the shot nearly impossible to dodge?

The OP describes how a Vindicare winds down after a long day at the Officio.

Even if the Earthers had every possible advantage of terrain, infomation, and preperation they still couldn't manage it.
The Vindicare is one of the deadliest killing machines in the 40k universe.
The Vindicare could down 3 targets with ease.
Not only that but his body armour is probably proof to most sniper round barring the biggest.

The Earth snipers would be dead before they even knew who they were supposed to kill.

Hmmm, I don't know a .50 cal is pretty dangerous. But its hard to compare these two as each are specialized in different ways, in a jungle I would say earth, in the desert I would say vindicare, in the city I say possibly a tie.

@Nerivant, the snipers would have thermal, which as far as I know is not in 40k and so is therefore unknown (correct me if I'm wrong), so his invisibility wouldn't help very much

The Earthers can't kill what they can't see...
The Vindicare also probably outranges them.
He is also more than likely much better trained and a much better shot and has much better equipment.
The 50. cal is good but no where nearly good enough to even the odds.

Whatsit Tooya wrote:
@Nerivant, the snipers would have thermal, which as far as I know is not in 40k and so is therefore unknown (correct me if I'm wrong), so his invisibility wouldn't help very much

The Vindicare stealth suit is invisible to infrared detecting technology.

Thermal is known in 40k it just isn't used that much...
Deathwatch use it and AFAIK some of the more advanced vehicles have it as an option.
Not sure on whether the suit is invisible to infared or not...
Doesn't particularly matter either way, the Vindicare more of a match for any of our snipers.

Well of course he out ranges them, thats why the desert is a given for him, the jungle helps the snipers as they know how to use the water (sorry if I'm biased but I'm mostly basing this of the US Navy SEALS) and range isn't the key there, in the city sight is limited and hiding abundant so I think the three man team would be a little bit better suited for the job. Plus we earthers have things like thermal and infrared and other crazy things that I've seen but do not know what to call them.

@Nerivant, where are you getting all of this info on the vindicare? Is it just a personal belief or have you read it somewhere?

Humans need to eat, sleep and easily fall prey to exhaustion and paranoia; a Vindicare Assassin can lie in wait for days without even taking a shot as he chooses his moment to strike; his advanced technology allows him to stalk his prey during the day and night, as well as in multiple weather conditions, and his training is far greater than human training.

The first mistake a human sniper will make will be turning up.

Whatsit Tooya wrote:Well of course he out ranges them, thats why the desert is a given for him, the jungle helps the snipers as they know how to use the water (sorry if I'm biased but I'm mostly basing this of the US Navy SEALS) and range isn't the key there, in the city sight is limited and hiding abundant so I think the three man team would be a little bit better suited for the job. Plus we earthers have things like thermal and infrared and other crazy things that I've seen but do not know what to call them.

@Nerivant, where are you getting all of this info on the vindicare? Is it just a personal belief or have you read it somewhere?

A Vindicare is trained and enhanced to physical perfection. Not just the best he can be, but the best any human can be. He's faster, stronger, at more at home in extreme environments than the best SF operator we have today. By magnitudes.

The Dark Heresy RPG books have Vindicare as an Ascended Class, them and their gear is covered in slightly more detail.

Okay.
Seal teams are highly trained to perform dangerous tasks. They are some of the best special operatives in this day and age.
A Vindicare assassin is trained from birth to be the ultimate marksman.
He is trained to kill people so highly guarded that entire battlegroups have failed at killing them.
It is likely the synthskin armour is in fact immune to infared.
The range doesn't matter because he is just as lethal with his pistol, the ore terrain the better because it gives him more things to hide behind and more things to shoot from.

Ok thanks, I'd love to read more about them as the vindicare is one of my favorite units in the game. Ugh I wish I wasn't the only loyal human here lol.

It's not about being loyal. It's about knowing when you are hopelessly outmatched.
In this case it is barely a competition...
Try a site called Lexicanum. People put it down because it can be edited by anyone but it is good for general background.

Sorry, but why do people keep making threads like this? This one is about as ridiculously mismatched as the 100 modern infantry vs 100 Fire Warriors.

Andilus Greatsword wrote:Sorry, but why do people keep making threads like this? This one is about as ridiculously mismatched as the 100 modern infantry vs 100 Fire Warriors.

Brother Coa made both this thread and that thread...
Go figure...

Andilus Greatsword wrote:Sorry, but why do people keep making threads like this? This one is about as ridiculously mismatched as the 100 modern infantry vs 100 Fire Warriors.

The ridiculously mismatched thread that's still going?

The fact is... there will always be people who think that "USA! USA!" is a valid response to directed pulse rifle fire, a Tyranid invasion, or a Sternguard Drop Pod assault.

@purplefood, I was just kidding about the loyal thing, I know that modern humans don't stand a chance against anything in 40k except possibly a grot (I just like arguing cause I get to know what others think and can possibly learn some new info), and I know about Lexicanum as I'm a member on it lol and its one of my favorite 40k sites.

@Nerivant, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhnUgAaea4M

Whatsit Tooya wrote:@purplefood, I was just kidding about the loyal thing, I know that modern humans don't stand a chance against anything in 40k except possibly a grot (I just like arguing cause I get to know what others think and can possibly learn some new info), and I know about Lexicanum as I'm a member on it lol and its one of my favorite 40k sites.

@Nerivant, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhnUgAaea4M

Fair enough.
There is an assassin in one of the SW series novels... Wolf Blade i think...

Oh really? I'm about to find out lol.

It isn't a Vindicare but he nearly does for... some characters...

purplefood wrote:

Andilus Greatsword wrote:Sorry, but why do people keep making threads like this? This one is about as ridiculously mismatched as the 100 modern infantry vs 100 Fire Warriors.

Brother Coa made both this thread and that thread...
Go figure...

It's a good thread actually. We have advanced tech, training, specialist and somewhat. We are pretty unique when it comes to comparison.
Beside, if we can defeat IG and SM. Why can't we try fighting Tau and Officio Assassinorum?

And if this is funny then what about all that Tau threads?

What if it was 10 space marie sniper scouts?

HAZZER wrote:What if it was 10 space marie sniper scouts?

I think that 10 snipers on 1 sniper, a spotter and a supporter is little to much...

Brother Coa wrote:

purplefood wrote:

Andilus Greatsword wrote:Sorry, but why do people keep making threads like this? This one is about as ridiculously mismatched as the 100 modern infantry vs 100 Fire Warriors.

Brother Coa made both this thread and that thread...
Go figure...

Beside, if we can defeat IG and SM. Why can't we try fighting Tau and Officio Assassinorum?

Hypothetical question. We can't defeat either, so what makes you think we'd beat a Vindicare?



*can of worms continues!*