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Can Grey knights vehicles be looted? I was talking about this to a friend of mine and she says it's impossible, because Grey Knights would never leave a vehicle in enemy hands, or something like that. Are GK vehicles really unlootable, fluff-wise?

General rule: Everything can be looted...
GK might be a lot harder but they can still be looted.
Actual lootability... no idea.

I forgot to add, what abut Chaos Vehicles? I've heard somethng about demonic possession and the fact that the chaos forces would be too bog for a bunch of lootas to just go and steal a Vindicator, but she wasn't too clear about that.

Orks don't really care about that kinda of stuff...
Kill the daemon (or just blow it up) then loot whatever is left.

Belexar wrote:Can Grey knights vehicles be looted? I was talking about this to a friend of mine and she says it's impossible, because Grey Knights would never leave a vehicle in enemy hands, or something like that. Are GK vehicles really unlootable, fluff-wise?

Are we talking about looted by Orks or what?

Because Orks probably could loot the stuff, but the Grey Knights don't really fight Orks too much and they make a point to recover all their equipment from the battlefield(which really is done by all Astartes unless not a single member of a force survives).

Daemons and Chaos looting the stuff though? No. It would be, to use an inelegant metaphor, like a vampire wearing a clove of garlic around their neck.

Belexar wrote: Grey Knights would never leave a vehicle in enemy hands, or something like that

I cannot imagine GreyKnights whom are provided the most,best equipment in the universe would risk knights to recover vehicles from daemon worlds and such, they go in, obliterate the threat, and leave (or die)

If the inducted guard and/or inquisitor elements can't recover the vehicle, it isnt coming home.

Grundz wrote:

Belexar wrote: Grey Knights would never leave a vehicle in enemy hands, or something like that

I cannot imagine GreyKnights whom are provided the most,best equipment in the universe would risk knights to recover vehicles from daemon worlds and such, they go in, obliterate the threat, and leave (or die)

You don't know the Imperium very well, do you? Chapters launch operations to recover suits of armor from warzones.

If the inducted guard and/or inquisitor elements can't recover the vehicle, it isnt coming home.

What inducted Guard? Inducted Guard aren't going to be used anywhere near a Daemon World.

A looted GK vehicle would just be a regular Marine vehicle in the hands of Orks. Most of the uniqueness comes from the psychic powers of the drivers. Any psy-ammunition would quickly run out and cannot be recreated by Orks (they lack the raw material of rendered down psykers, unless they start shoving weirdboyz into blenders).

Hell, and it probably wouldn't be too outside the realm of possibility to think that GK put self-destruct devices in their vehicles in case they have to leave them behind.

Can GK vehicles be looted? No.

Can Orks loot anything? Yes.

Irresistable force, meet immovable object!

GK vehicles are the same as normal SM vehicles.
They get shiny additions but they remain the same internally.
Orks can loot regular SM vehicles so they can loot Gk vechiles...
I have no idea concerning the lootability of Dreadknight however... though i doubt it would stop the Orks from trying.

Other than reasons like the GKs take proper care of their vehicles and don't leave the key in the ignition, why shouldn't Orks loot them?

Orks will loot anything they can get their hands on, including stuff which is firmly bolted down, and a lot of the ground the stuff is bolted into.

Orks loot entire asteroids and space hulks.

Kanluwen wrote:

Belexar wrote:Can Grey knights vehicles be looted? I was talking about this to a friend of mine and she says it's impossible, because Grey Knights would never leave a vehicle in enemy hands, or something like that. Are GK vehicles really unlootable, fluff-wise?

Are we talking about looted by Orks or what?

Because Orks probably could loot the stuff, but the Grey Knights don't really fight Orks too much and they make a point to recover all their equipment from the battlefield(which really is done by all Astartes unless not a single member of a force survives).

Daemons and Chaos looting the stuff though? No. It would be, to use an inelegant metaphor, like a vampire wearing a clove of garlic around their neck.

Only if they used the same drivers. Chaos, Word Bearers especially, enjoy stealing and corrupting blessed objects. Anything can be looted as long as the owners are killed, which doesn't seem to happen that much to the GKs.

Durza wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:

Belexar wrote:Can Grey knights vehicles be looted? I was talking about this to a friend of mine and she says it's impossible, because Grey Knights would never leave a vehicle in enemy hands, or something like that. Are GK vehicles really unlootable, fluff-wise?

Daemons and Chaos looting the stuff though? No. It would be, to use an inelegant metaphor, like a vampire wearing a clove of garlic around their neck.

Only if they used the same drivers. Chaos, Word Bearers especially, enjoy stealing and corrupting blessed objects. Anything can be looted as long as the owners are killed, which doesn't seem to happen that much to the GKs.

Wrong.
The crew of the Grey Knight vehicles aren't the only thing on them that's "anathema to the Warp". The entire thing is slathered in hexagrammic wards making it completely impossible to be "looted" and "crewed" by a bound Daemon or any follower of Chaos in the same way that Chaos sigils drive mortal men mad. It's like trying to breed saltwater fish in lava--it won't work.

There's also the fact that if Grey Knights were in such a way to deploy vehicles on the surface, there's a Strike Cruiser in orbit. It'd likely have orders to burn the world rather than let it survive.

They do not feth about when major Daemonic incursions are involved. If they can't shut the portals down from the ground, they WILL burn the place down.

"Like breeding saltwater fish in lava" a much more apt analogy methinks...

Omegus wrote:A looted GK vehicle would just be a regular Marine vehicle in the hands of Orks. Most of the uniqueness comes from the psychic powers of the drivers. Any psy-ammunition would quickly run out and cannot be recreated by Orks (they lack the raw material of rendered down psykers, unless they start shoving weirdboyz into blenders).

I was like 'he's probably right' but then I thought 'what's to stop the orks from rendering down other races' psykers in afforementioned blenders? That seems like a fairly orky idea to me...

But no, seriously, one of the big background things of the orks is that they can steal anything. And if they can't steal it, once a mekboy sees it done, given enough time and desire he can build one himself. Which is why they have Gargants, as I understand it.

If you or anyone you know wants to run any kind of looted vehicle in an ork army, you go right on ahead. The crazier the better as far as I am concerned. I saw a guy at a con who had a looted tank converted from one of the Imperial warship models (Thunderhawk?) from Forgeworld. (He stuck wheels on it. It was great.) I've seen them on the internet made from monoliths or even epicly big Tyranids. When it comes to orks and looted vehicles, the only limit is your imagination.

Are GK vehicles "baroqued" with hexagrammatic wards down to the subatomic level?

Jimsolo wrote:

Omegus wrote:A looted GK vehicle would just be a regular Marine vehicle in the hands of Orks. Most of the uniqueness comes from the psychic powers of the drivers. Any psy-ammunition would quickly run out and cannot be recreated by Orks (they lack the raw material of rendered down psykers, unless they start shoving weirdboyz into blenders).

I was like 'he's probably right' but then I thought 'what's to stop the orks from rendering down other races' psykers in afforementioned blenders? That seems like a fairly orky idea to me...

But no, seriously, one of the big background things of the orks is that they can steal anything. And if they can't steal it, once a mekboy sees it done, given enough time and desire he can build one himself. Which is why they have Gargants, as I understand it.

If you or anyone you know wants to run any kind of looted vehicle in an ork army, you go right on ahead. The crazier the better as far as I am concerned. I saw a guy at a con who had a looted tank converted from one of the Imperial warship models (Thunderhawk?) from Forgeworld. (He stuck wheels on it. It was great.) I've seen them on the internet made from monoliths or even epicly big Tyranids. When it comes to orks and looted vehicles, the only limit is your imagination.

HAHAHAHA a looted trygon... it is so perfect I almost have to make one now... but then I'll have 4 looted wagons ... still it'd be priceless

Okay, something seems to have been misread. I wasn't talking about Daemons looting GK vehicles. I was talking about orks taking a, let's say, Chaos Vindicator, painting it red, bolting a few shootas onto it and Tank Shocking some Chaos Space Marines.

Why shouldn't they do that?

Dunnow, but my Chaos Space Marines-user friend says IT'S impossible.

Your friends have no idea what they are talking about.

If anything, the Deamon in the vehicle would fething love the orks for ramming it into everything in sight and strapping large amounts of weapons on it to make more kills for their god.

yes, if orks found a Gk vehicle they could loot it.


its the Finding part thats tricky.


GKs don't leave equipment behind very often.

That can be solved quite easily. With lots and lots of blasta.

Belexar wrote:That can be solved quite easily. With lots and lots of dakka.

fixed it for you

The 'but they would never let it fall into enemy hands, and would do anything to get it back' defense falls a bit flat vs orks.

Orks have looted Imperial TITANS. The Admech are pretty rabid about their god-machines (never let fall into enemy hands rabid..), but that doesn't stop the orks looting them in the first place.

Keeping them is another matter

Sabet wrote:

Belexar wrote:That can be solved quite easily. With lots and lots of dakka.

fixed it for you

Actually, when facing vehicles, you need lots of blasta. Dakka is for infantry and things that roll saves and therefore can he killed eventually if shot enough times.

Quiat ya git, Dakka's gud nuf fur anyfing and everyfing. got dat!!!

Why would anyone think that GK vehicles couldn't be looted?
If a Warband of Deth Skullz Orks beat the tar out of a grey knight detachment, then you better believe that the GK stuff's going to be looted.
Why are the Grey knights near orks or fighting orks? Who knows, but it certianly can happen.

Now will other Grey knights come along and try and get their stuff back? Maybe...probably... but until they do (as they say in DOW) "It now belongs to the Ork's!!"

Grey Templar wrote:Quiat ya git, Dakka's gud nuf fur anyfing and everyfing. got dat!!!

Dakka + Blasta, I mean.

Okay, so Okrs can loot both Chaos Vehicles and DK vehicles. Good to know that. Thanks, guys! Now I just have to get some expensive vehicles and learn how to ork them up.

Belexar wrote:

Grey Templar wrote:Quiat ya git, Dakka's gud nuf fur anyfing and everyfing. got dat!!!

Dakka + Blasta, I mean.

Okay, so Okrs can loot both Chaos Vehicles and DK vehicles. Good to know that. Thanks, guys! Now I just have to get some expensive vehicles and learn how to ork them up.

oi,

I gets it, you aint no Ork.


youza snivviling grot pozein as an ork ova da internets, mukkin about n all.


I knows cause uf diz Blasta businez. like a Grot Blasta.


dats wot dis all iz