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So, a while back I was tempted to get myself a CSM army dedicated to... What's his name again, some minor chaos god of wanton malice and whatnot.

Anywho, now I'm pretty much feeling like going DE, but I figured that hey, I love both fluffs, can't they be combined?

Dark Eldar see themselves as the supreme beings, anyone else being traitors (Eldar) and cattle (anything else), but as (quite beautifully) described by GW on their interviews about the DE, their race is a leaking bucket which needs constant refilling, and filling that bucket requires power.

My idea was that I'd paint and outfit a DE force with Chaos banners, glyphs and whatnot, using some of the Chaos vehicle bits to add some more evulness in them, and on the fluff-part, I figured that perhaps an Archon and a couple of his friends got cast out of Commoragh by the greater Kabals, living apart from the main society in their own little dark corner of the webway, and to make up for everything lost through that (the uh... I'd like to use the word 'safety', but that just doesn't feel right to describe Commoragh), they'd make a pact with the devi-- I mean, a chaos god (not yet specified, I'm thinking either Khorne or that malicious lad) swearing their allegiance to him, slaying the 'lesser' races in his name, as well as to sate their needs, then bring a few back home to have something to do in their spare time. I'm not looking for any special rules changes for an army of DE (using summoned demons and chaos wargear), but just if the fluff would make sense.

What say you?

Oh, and, I figured Slaanesh wouldn't suit... Or.. would he? He is the god created by their decadence, and does suit them perfectly in that aspect... But after the Fall and all that, and with him wanting to extinguish the Eldar in general (I think?), I'm unsure wether it would make sense or not.

I think Tzeentch is more of a DE thing, never ever Slaanesh.

Yeah, I was thinking Tzeentch. Nurgle feels sort of... Non-eldar-ish, and Slaanesh being Slaanesh... Khorne or Tzeentch, or that Malice guy, if I find enough about him. Or just Chaos Undivided, although a patron god would be preferable.

DE consider themselves above Chaos. They are way too arrogant to bow their heads to some ethereal douchebags in the Warp. Especially considering how much of those douchebags' composition are the thoughts and feelings of mon-keigh.

Omegus wrote:DE consider themselves above Chaos. They are way too arrogant to bow their heads to some ethereal douchebags in the Warp. Especially considering how much of those douchebags' composition are the thoughts and feelings of mon-keigh.

Well, whilst I do see your point, I believe you quite missed mine.

When listening to the interview with GW about the Dark Eldar, they say that most Dark Eldar are living in Commorragh with little more status than the slaves brought in, and that only a fraction belong to the kabals and wych cults, and whilst most DE would try to work their way up on their own through cunning and guile, it's still not just to walk in and sign up for a kabal, they're all hand-picked from the best soldiers there are. So, what if one of those guys finds that it would take way too long to work his way up through a Kabal, earn their trust and everything, and start his own 'gang', he'd pretty soon be put out of business by those with power, i.e. the other kabals, and finds himself, along with his few gathered warriors banned from Commorragh for his 'pathetic' attempt to grab himself some power (or more probably, has to escape or face execution? Who knows.).

So, banned from Commorragh with the risk of being killed upon returning, with no real way of recruiting or getting any armaments, what does one do? Can't just leave the webway and try your luck in the realspace, your bucket would leak dry very rapidly, and even if there wasn't that, one has to remember that even cattle has horns, it's just not realistic to even think of trying to conquer a moon or planet and expect that whatever inhabitants there were would worship them as their masters and submit to slavery without putting up a fight - and even when knowing that you -are- better than any greenskin or human, taking on a couple of thousands of them, or more probably millions, just ain't going to work out.

You flee to a corner of the webway and build yourself a little somewhere to hide, try out a couple of raids with whatever vehicles you managed to grab (steal, perhaps?) when you fled from the dark capitol to get some slaves to torture, some materials to build on with, and some more slaves to work for you or have them fight eachother/ your warriors for sport and fun. You figure that it might just work, but it's just a question of time before someone from the kabals will spot your sanctuary, and then what? No, you'll need allies, where do you turn? Humans? Never. Tau? What good would they do you, they'd try to make you fight for their greater good and would never accept your lifestyle. C'tan? Ever tried talking to one? See what happened to the Necronthyr? No thank you. Greenskins? Nope. Craftworld Eldar? Never. Chaos? N-- Oh, hmm... Sure, why not.

They are malicious, they unquestionably do have power, they don't seem to care much for what you are if you worship them for as long as you are usefull for them. So which one would you pick? Khorne, perhaps, but you would want to torture your victims properly, not just chop their heads off and be done with it. Nurgle? Well, maybe, but you don't want to end up being morphed into a nurgling or have your sensational feelings dulled. Slaanesh? Nah, that doesn't quite feel right considering he sort of is the reason you had to escape realspace in the first place. Tzeentch? Why not? It's not like you've got a crazy librarian that'll turn your warriors into dust-walkers. Malice, the renegade god? Hey, that sounds just about perfect.

And once you got a thing going, you bump into a couple of kabalite warriors in the webway which assault you - and you win, and take them back to your place and put them in the pit against a bunch of greenskins, any survivors are offered to join the new Kabal of Malice.

Anything that doesn't fit so far?

That's actually a really cool idea, I was also thinking of having a chaos DE army, but didnt know how well it would be fluff wise.

Fluff wise the problem DE have with chaos seems to be that they're naturally tuned to the Slannesh frequency, a ladyboy whose attitude seems to be the only good Eldar is a dead, tasty Eldar. To survive this they're pretty much bred out warp sensitivity from their race, making using chaos difficult.

But not impossible, and Slannesh has plenty of enemies in the warp who would love to steal her prey. However I do think the sheer arrogance of the Dark Eldar mean only the lowest and most desperate of them would consider serving chaos (and that's what it would result in, a fact the more canny DE are more than aware off).

They could also be crone world eldar. As the DE and Slaanesh came from the original eldar, chaos influenced/warped eldar are just like the grandpaps. ALso opens up some nice conversion opportunities. Racks/honmoncula/scourges as mutants, beastmasters are already herding warpbeasts, etc.

The existence of Chaos Eldar has been written out of the fluff before 2nd edition. The only possible Chaos Eldar left, Arhra, returned to Commoragh uncorrupted. Raiders with Chaos symbols would be annihilated in Commoragh before the paint is dry.

The 40k universe is quite divers, but armies of Chaos Grey Knights, Chaos Sororitas, Chaos Eldar, Chaos Tau, and female Space marines are a no go. These themes are lame, mostly proposed by 12 year old beginners trying to be naughty, and will often provoke the WTF reaction in any opponent aware of the 40k fluff, some of them refusing to play against you. If you like provocation and don't mind negative reactions, go ahead. otherwise think twice.

See also this poll on Chaos Grey Knights to get the idea:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/377435.page

Well, another thing about the Chaos gods which would make it possible is that they rarely get along with one another. Whilst Nurgle may want to infest something with plagues and toxins until only his own 'children' can live there, Slaanesh would probably want to make it some sort of paradise in which pleassure and pain will be excessive beyond mortal imagination. So if Tzeentch or Malice decides to take a group of renegade DE under their wings, they will do so. Especially seeing as Tzeentch is already pretty much backstabbing and spying on the others, aiding them when it suits himself and dropping them to fall when he feels like it.

Tzeentch is the god of ambition, plotting, change and psychic powers, ambition and plotting sure as hell suits the Dark Eldar, change - depends on the aspect of the change, and Tzeentch's never-ending change on his own way of changing things, well it's not safe being his servant no matter who or what you are, it's a risk you'll have to take. As for psychic powers, the Dark Eldar are the most technologically advanced race there is (apart from the Necrons?), being the masters of that, and perhaps with a bit of curiosity in what the Craftworld Eldars are up to and want to prove that they can go further than that - why not?

Of course, Slaanesh's aspects; lust, pleasure and pain, would suit even better - after all it was the Eldar race's decadence that gave birth to him, but I simply don't see a way around it, and personally I'm no great fan of Slaanesh, he sort of feels like the he-she little brother that the other Chaos gods slap their palms over their foreheads at.

I still haven't been able to find any fluff about the god of Malice, but he appears to be the 'main' god of the Imperial renegades, and the one I would believe it easiest to come into contact with as renegade Dark Eldars. Besides, to me he feels sort of like Slaanesh minus the weird parts that doesn't even really feel fully DE. They don't seem to care much for beauty, gladly letting the Haemonculi 'enchant' their battle-capabilities, turning them into monsters.

But we'll see where it ends up, I'll try to do more research on Malice (a.k.a. Melkirth) and see what I find.

Edit:

Alright, so what I've found, and what have already been mentioned here (I think?) is something about an author writing a WHFB book with a fifth chaos god, the lord of Malice and wanton cruelty, Malal. But he quit, and due to copyrights (or IP, it says), GW weren't allowed to use him. I'm not sure if the name 'Melkirth' would be older or newer than Malal, but with the renegade legion, the Sons of Malice, I'd say there's enough fluff to support individual armies in his name, whichever it may be - Malice, Melkirth or Malal (although due to Malal being so contested and the simplicity and dullness of 'Malice', I'd prolly go for Melkirth). Also, Melkirth's name suits -very- well with a character I made a long, long time ago, before I even knew what WH40K was, a character which suits very well as a Dark Eldar.

Anyone having further info on Malal, Malice, the Sons of Malice or Melkirth to share would be very much appreciated.

Now sleep, then waking up, going to school, getting home, making an army list, wait for paycheck, purchase whatever's first on the list - then getting started!

Kroothawk wrote:The existence of Chaos Eldar has been written out of the fluff before 2nd edition. The only possible Chaos Eldar left, Arhra, returned to Commoragh uncorrupted. Raiders with Chaos symbols would be annihilated in Commoragh before the paint is dry.

The 40k universe is quite divers, but armies of Chaos Grey Knights, Chaos Sororitas, Chaos Eldar, Chaos Tau, and female Space marines are a no go. These themes are lame, mostly proposed by 12 year old beginners trying to be naughty, and will often provoke the WTF reaction in any opponent aware of the 40k fluff, some of them refusing to play against you. If you like provocation and don't mind negative reactions, go ahead. otherwise think twice.

See also this poll on Chaos Grey Knights to get the idea:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/377435.page

I would'nt play against them, I would join them. But anyway, since the game is based on small skirmishes, a small Chaos Dark Eldar army is possible. I don't recall any point in the fluff making that impossible.

You may want to look into Malal, as that is the original incarnation of Malice.

That's the only deity I can possibly see, in which case the fluff lends itself not so much to "proper" Dark Eldar, but rather survivors of the Fall who are so enraged by Slaanesh plundering their kingdom that they have given themselves to Malal to exact vengeance even at the price of inevitable oblivion.

Kroothawk wrote:The existence of Chaos Eldar has been written out of the fluff before 2nd edition. The only possible Chaos Eldar left, Arhra, returned to Commoragh uncorrupted. Raiders with Chaos symbols would be annihilated in Commoragh before the paint is dry.

The 40k universe is quite divers, but armies of Chaos Grey Knights, Chaos Sororitas, Chaos Eldar, Chaos Tau, and female Space marines are a no go. These themes are lame, mostly proposed by 12 year old beginners trying to be naughty, and will often provoke the WTF reaction in any opponent aware of the 40k fluff, some of them refusing to play against you. If you like provocation and don't mind negative reactions, go ahead. otherwise think twice.

See also this poll on Chaos Grey Knights to get the idea:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/377435.page

Meh, I seriously don't get people that 'refuse' to have fun with someone just because their armies are painted differently or have specific icons on them or have some fluff behind them that in no way affects the game-play. Along that road, you'd sooner run into problems like being unable to play with your friends because both armies are part of the Imperium of man and neither wants to be the 'bad' guy. The concept of Dark Eldar on thet able are much like chaos, darkness, spikyness, cruelty, it's not like I'm trying to make hippie-necron-eldars (saw a nice pic of a flowery Monolith somewhere a while back).

Where's the fun in playing with a tight- -ed -er who says you -have- to pick a SM chapter that is mentioned in the fluff, when even GW exhorts you to convert and find your own paint-schemes, and why wouldn't this apply to the fluff of -your own- army? What's the creative part of the hobby if you're not free to tweak things to your own liking?

GW says Dark Eldar are arrogant in nature, but also cunning and guilefull, who is to say that the DE in my army are so arrogant that they'd drop their cunning or that they'd rather die than working for someone else? Pledging to a Chaos God is no less arrogant than pledging to an Archon in that aspect. Every individual of the multi-billions there are in WH40K aren't stereotypes of their factions. If a Space Marine can backstab the emperor by joining Chaos, why can't an outcast DE become a renegade?

I personally can't see any validity in what you wrote (except the GK part, as the fluff directly prohibits it in a completely different manner), and if you don't want to play with me because I write some fluff that I share with my friends and those interested, I won't make you. I'm into WH40K for the fun of it, for the creativity and for the social part, I don't know what reasons you're in it for if you're against any ideas that doesn't come from GW.

Edit:

Found a proper article.

http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Malal

Second Edit:

In that vote, 33% say yes, 40% say they'd still play even if they dislike the idea of it, 15% says no, 6% says they don't care and 6% say it's fluff-wise doable, so... That's 85% still playing - with Chaos Grey Knights, which is quite a ton more of a 'fluff-break' than this.

An Archon is a fellow Dark Eldar, and thus more worthy of respect than any Empyrean ghost.

Omegus wrote:An Archon is a fellow Dark Eldar, and thus more worthy of respect than any Empyrean ghost.

True that, but what I meant was that they don't follow them -because- it's a fellow Dark Eldar, they follow him because they want power for themselves in the end, it's for their own gain. And if, for any reason, there's no Archon that want you in your Kabal (and as mentioned in the GW interview, that covers most of the Dark Eldar race), you either remain a worthless nobody in the eyes of society, or you start working your way up - or, as also mentioned in the same interview, you cheat.

Another way to look at it would be that; This entity can give me power to rise up and create my own business with, -I am superior to it, once I'm done, I'm ditching it-.

But again, the renegade Malal is the only one that seems a feasible match. Khorne is boring and monotone, Nurgle offends their sensibilities and dulls the senses, Tzeench has no interest as they have no psychic power, and Slaanesh is an anathema that will just eat them with grape jelly.

With Malal, the motivation is not individual temporal power, but rather destroying other Chaos entities. So we return to my earlier suggestion of vengeful Eldar willingly committing themselves to a path of oblivion to get back at Slaanesh. And, of course, you're still a Space Vampire, so some raiding and pillaging to keep happy the mooks under your command who do not know of your deeper loyalties is not out of the question. Borrow elements from the Darkblade graphic novels, and you're on your way.

Lexicanum wrote: The pirate prince Kaharhaedros, an oddity among Dark Eldar he openly courts the chaos god Slaanesh and he can be found in the book Crimson Tears. He had a plan to create a new Commorragh however his plan failed when the Crimson Fists captain of the second company eliminated his Incubi and foiled his plan. Kaharhadros later fell into a warp hole he made and was destroyed.

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Dark_Eldar

Lexicanum wrote: For a time, [Fabius Bile] was tutored in the dark arts of manipulating the flesh in the Tower of Flesh, a Haemonculi stronghold of the Coven of the Thirteen Scars.

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Fabius


It's the very last entry... Far as chaos goes, I'm not sure why people think Tzeentch is a good choice yeah there is the whole plotting and scheming thing but the downfall of it is the psychic issue. Dark Eldar HATE........... Psykers, Look at the entry for Crucible of Malediction: 'Each Crucible contains the essence of psykers captured and tortured until death.' pg. 60. and this isn't in a normal sense of they hate everything that's normal this is probably the top priority of hate. Slaanesh I will advocate due to the quote from Lex from the novel above. Though if you wanted to make an army around the divine I would suggest you read up on pg. 43 of DE 5th with the entry on 'The Dark Muses' those if anything are good in the common sense.

Other entries that I know are pg. 6 DE 5th dex Gods & Monsters is a good read on Kaela Mensha Khaine. Something along the lines of him being still revered for what he had done all threw the fall and so such. He is still worshiped and highly regarded in Dark Eldar society. Slaanesh is possible of worship it has the most connection to the Dark Eldar, you just have to remember and think of it this way if Kaela Mensha Khaine is still regarded even after the fall and the Dark Muses are common worshiped as well. Slaanesh(and Chaos in general) worship is pretty much Satanism in away, giving worship to a god that has a hook on your soul is a bit strange but it can have an effect none the less I'm sure. Or giving worship to a god that approves of psychic abilities in a society that completely disproves of it is the same none the less. And to argue against myself make sure to read the last three paragraphs on pg. 7 DE 5th cause that's the only ammo I can think of for anyone advocating against Slaanesh but it depends how you view it I guess.

Slaanesh was born due to there behavior... they still conduct that behavior and still keep doing just that. So in the end I think they are just in a state of denial sure they have a hook in there soul cause of Slaanesh. Do they like it no? Why cause they are everything and above anything in thinking. What kind of thinking is that? Egotistical, Prideful, Arrogant whom does that sound like as a god? yeah. Do they keep slaves for personal projects, Do they have medical staff to fulfill vain & personal need DE 5th pg. 37 second two paragraphs talk about surgical requests & cults of pleasure and pain. So I think your on a good track just have to read up a bit on Dark Eldar fluff to get better navigation so it fits correctly... Though anything is possible but if your looking at hardline stuff then I would suggest looking at 'The Dark Muses' more closely.

-Sincerely Viri.

In First Heretic, there is an interesting comment by the daemon instructing the Word Bearers that Slaanesh was the culmination of everything the Eldar wanted, but in their fear and lack of conviction, they turned away from him/her in the last moment and thus brought about the cataclysm. The daemon paints Slaanesh not so much as a voracious parasite trying to eat all the Eldar, as a scorned lover acting out of spite. Played from that angle, Slaanesh could very well give favor to a Eldar who chooses to embrace the embodiment of what it truly means to be Eldar (seeing as the Craftworld kin are "diminished and become less than ourselves" through their ascetic lifestyle... that's a quote from the codex I believe).

Dark Prince <insertnamehere>, Consort of Slaanesh, has a nice ring to it.

When for thousands of years your tribe took refuge in an oil refinery and your culture is based on not igniting all the oil, then the tribe doesn't look favorably on some kids trying to start a fire cult. That's basically what a Chaos cult is in the webway. And Prince Kaharhaedros (also not surviving long there) is not in the Codex but featured in a not so well written BL novel 3 years before the new background was completely rewritten.

And I was just pointing you at the obvious fact that if you do a provocating army contradicting established 40k fluff, then you should be ready to deal with people being provoked (even if only 16% refuse playing, another 35% = 51% total are unhappy with playing). Starting this thread shows that you are aware of this army being provocative.

Of course I'm aware of that most gamers want to keep it simple, what I was looking for was to find any excisting fluff that would support the idea and to see if anyone would have anything that would make the idea impossible or anything to contribute to the idea.

Besides, provocing a discussion is an art. It usually ends up badly, having people just cursing and insulting eachother for having different opinions, but this one I'm quite proud of, as it have instead brought up quite a lot of fluff that a lot of people generally are unaware of (I believe) and shown possibilities rather than just having the idea discarded as fluffrape and madness.

I belong to a subculture which is very much about provocation and standing out of the mainstream in most aspects of lifestyle, and as long as I don't give GW the finger and do something which is -against- their fluff, and instead make the army reflect my own personality a bit (which is pretty much fundamental in most creative arts) it's just all for the better.

And if someone doesn't want to play with me because my Raiders have the Wheel of Chaos on their hulls or because their paint scheme is inspired by a different faction, I'm not going to make them to, I'm just going to feel sorry for them missing out on a huge creative aspect of WH40K as well as a game which after all is the point of the tournament.

*shrug*

As for what Viridian wrote about it being satanism for an Eldar to worship a Chaos god - Chaos is satanism for anyone. It's a risky gamble, you'll be empowered by doing well in the name of your god, but it's not like Khorne puts his berserkers on a green field of peace when they die (I'm not entierly certain, but if I remember correctly most fallen champions of Khorne have their skulls put under the throne as everyone else's).

And when I look at the Dark Eldar, I get the impression of a dark, almost a bit gothic race who favor malice and despair, they make perfect candidates for it. Just as when you look at the goth subculture, most are in it for the lifestyle, music and fashion, some fall over the edge and think it's about satanism - DE worshipping a chaos god would basically be the ones falling over the edge.

Nothing wrong with giving GW the finger. Of course, then they'll want all your fingers, then your hand, your arm, torso, etc.

Riffzor wrote:Besides, provocing a discussion is an art.

The technical term on internet forums is "trolling".

Anyway, if you read the current Dark Eldar Codex, you will find that they have a much better and richer background than just being Chaos Eldar.
More creative than sticking spikes and greenstuff tentacles to every miniature at hand. More creative than what every second naughty 12 year old beginner could imagine (and they all go out for Chaos Tau, Chaos Grey Knights, Chaos Sororitas with boobs, Chaos Eldar, female Space marines or a PINK army, and they all think they are the first to come up with that idea).

Kroothawk wrote:When for thousands of years your tribe took refuge in an oil refinery and your culture is based on not igniting all the oil, then the tribe doesn't look favorably on some kids trying to start a fire cult. That's basically what a Chaos cult is in the webway. And Prince Kaharhaedros (also not surviving long there) is not in the Codex but featured in a not so well written BL novel 3 years before the new background was completely rewritten.

And I was just pointing you at the obvious fact that if you do a provocating army contradicting established 40k fluff, then you should be ready to deal with people being provoked (even if only 16% refuse playing, another 35% = 51% total are unhappy with playing). Starting this thread shows that you are aware of this army being provocative.

Crone worlds have been fluff for a long time. I don't see the issue.
Plus, who says it has to be in the webway? Eldar are a spacefaring race.

Frankly do what you want. As long as you follow the codex rules for DE properly the fluff can be wahatever. They can be DE, chaos DE, chaos Eldar or Eldar for all that matters (after all they play like eldar SHOULD play). If someone doesn't play you because your personal fluff is XX and the squiggles on the side of the jetbikes are not Sam Hain squiggles but instead are Demon Lord Bob Lord of the Pizza of Chaos! squiggles, then frankly you should shake their hand and thank them for not wasting 3 hours of your life you'll never get back.

Kroothawk wrote:

Riffzor wrote:Besides, provocing a discussion is an art.

The technical term on internet forums is "trolling".

Only if it goes bad I'd say =P

Anywho, I never claimed to be the first to come up with the idea, people mentioned that they considered to do it before and with prince what's-his-name in the novel and everything.

And I'm not going for, like, 'CHAOS DARK ELDAR OMG AWESOME', it's more of a personal preference to chaos iconography and fluff, neither of which has any impact on the gameplay. And I don't know how much people usually write, but when I want to write something and there's an idea that I like and want to write about, I write quite a lot. Your argument that there already is a ton of interesting stuff in the codex is hard to find words for; I know that they have a rich background fluff, I still just prefer the idea of going renegade and seeking to worship a god which could make up for some of the important stuff lost by being apart from Commorragh, perhaps granting something completely different even (purely fluff-wise, of course). And by combining the two, one could make something interesting - or fail and make it all rubbish that doesn't make sense.

For example, it's already mentioned that the Dark Eldar are quite a 'vampiric' race, living on the agony of those they kill and torture, add some fanatasy in style of the already excisting renegades (in this example, the Sons of Malice), taking the step further and feeding on their victims in a both ritual and... Uh, 'nescessary' manner... I'll put that in a spoiler, just in case.


If you are faint of heart or mind, do not show.


... Yes, where was I? Oh, right.

I don't see how it's less creative to combine aspects from different things you like than following the fluff written by GW and banish all ideas that cross the lines. And there's a huge difference to cross a line and to break a barrier, such as ignoring the time-line or biological sense ('I'm a half-orc, half-necronthyr that was adopted by the Sisters of Battle, my bossom is twice the size of my head and I wear a modified Terminator armour which is more like being a real dreadnough, but I'm alive of course. Oh, and my company banner is pink in honor of Slaanesh, but we told the Emperor it was just stylish and he agreed.')

Riffzor wrote:I don't see how it's less creative to combine aspects from different things you like than following the fluff written by GW and banish all ideas that cross the lines. And there's a huge difference to cross a line and to break a barrier, such as ignoring the time-line or biological sense ('I'm a half-orc, half-necronthyr that was adopted by the Sisters of Battle, my bossom is twice the size of my head and I wear a modified Terminator armour which is more like being a real dreadnough, but I'm alive of course. Oh, and my company banner is pink in honor of Slaanesh, but we told the Emperor it was just stylish and he agreed.')

You had me at "bossom is twice the size of my head". (lub)

'Is it sillicone?' 'No, sir. Green stuff!'

Frazzled wrote:Crone worlds have been fluff for a long time. I don't see the issue.

Yes, Crone Worlds are still in the fluff, but GW is quite explicit that every Eldar on them was instantly killed during the Fall. Some Eldar might try to go back and retrieve old artefacts, but nobody can live there.

Chaos powers have quite a bit of difficulty getting into Commoragh. That's why the DE are there in the second place*, they're out of reach there.

*the first reason was because that's just where they lived originally.

Well, if they't take a CSM as a slave (or a bunch, it's not like they'll get -one- CSM at random when attacking an imperial city), they somehow catch the attention of it and stirs interest or curiosity?

*shrug* But the Dark Eldar are well aware of their excistance, so I'd rather go for my earlier example.

It's your army, do what you want.

I think it's foolish to dabble with Chaos but who's to say an Eldar is immune to its whispers? One does not necessarily become slave to the Dark Gods willingly.

Edit:

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Kher-Ys

That story seems to have an example of Eldar being used as unwitting dupes... who's to say a relationship can't start out that way and then the Eldar 'come around'?