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**htj**

Why is it always Red vs. Blue? In almost all cases, (video games, television shows, the Man U / Chelsea rivalry in my primary school, etc.) teams are divided into red against blue. But on the colour wheel, the opposite of red is green. Surely green is red's natural enemy? Certainly it's the better colour. Where does this red/blue war come from? Where did it start? Should it persist? These are all questions that have been preying on my mind.

EDIT: When playing games with these two factions in, which colour do you tend or prefer to side with? And why?

**Wolfun**

Basic colour wheel.
Blue is opposite of red.

**htj**

No it's not. Green is.

**Wolfun**

Okay, not basic, but original.
Cyan was the opposite of red.

Cyan got bastardized into being blue.

Ergo, Red Vs Blue.

**Toastedandy**

Actually, one of the earlier colour wheels from 1874 had red opposite cyan. While on the 1908 wheel, red is opposite blue.

**htj**

So you're saying this red vs. blue thing likely stems from the turn of the century? Is it evident in board games and the like back then?

**Toastedandy**

More than liely because yellow blue and red are primary colours, and red and blue are more dis similar than yellow and red. Dya' get me?

**htj**

I do. Also, no-one likes yellow. I wonder if the continued use of red and blue has something to do with how stiking they are? Moreso than green and yellow, for instance.

**Grakmar**

Another big issue is that many people are Red/Green Color-Blind. So, if teams are Red and Green, these people won't be able to tell them apart.

Being both Red/Green Color-Blind and Blue/Yellow is much rarer. So, if you want to pick colors the most people can differentiate, red and blue are the way to go.

**htj**

That's a really good point, Grakmar, hadn't occurred to me. Seems there are quite a few reasons. I am enlightened.

**Henners91**

Army Men gave us Green vs Tan!

Perhaps there are historical origins? Good ol' Redcoats versus Continentals?

Or the Cold War? Blue is a colour oft' associated with the United States and they faced down the evil red devils...

**htj**

Henners91 wrote:Army Men gave us Green vs Tan!

Perhaps there are historical origins? Good ol' Redcoats versus Continentals?

Or the Cold War? Blue is a colour oft' associated with the United States and they faced down the evil red devils...

I did wonder about this. There certainly a precedent for Red facing off against Blue. Xref: politics in the UK and US, among others.

My original toy soldiers were grey Nazi-esque ones vs. tan Australian-esque ones. Those brave Aussies won some fine, though historically questionable, victories.

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This has got me wondering which colour more people tend to side with. For my part, I always prefer Red, but my friend prefers to play with Blue, as he sees Red as the default enemy colour. I've added a poll to hopefully get an impression of what the average Dakkanaut favours.

**dajobe**

htj wrote:I do. Also, no-one likes yellow. I wonder if the continued use of red and blue has something to do with how stiking they are? Moreso than green and yellow, for instance.

i like yellow when hot chicks wear yellow sundresses

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or bikinis

**htj**

dajobe wrote:
htj wrote:I do. Also, no-one likes yellow. I wonder if the continued use of red and blue has something to do with how stiking they are? Moreso than green and yellow, for instance.

i like yellow when hot chicks wear yellow sundresses

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or bikinis

I suspect that has less to do with the yellow, though.

**dajobe**

most likely

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it could also be a blue...or red sundress/bikini and i would most likely not give a gak.

**remilia_scarlet**

It doesn't matter which color you chose, it's all about skills.

**biccat**

remilia_scarlet wrote:It doesn't matter which color you chose, it's all about skills.

Spoken like a true ~~loser~~ blueist.

Heretic!

**purplefood**

The Primary colour wars rage on...
Red for the win!!!

**lord commissar klimino**

what about yellow? its a primary. yet people always use red,blue,and green for stuff...never got it.

as for me i just like blue better.

IMO it comes from fire and water.they are natural enemy's and those are their colors so everyone uses red and blue. also maybe thats why they use green.grass,plants and stuff.yellow isnt really a major force of nature like those 3.

**purplefood**

Yellow would take par but it is currently caught in the midst of an economic depression, drought, famine, civil war, flu epidemic and a series of social conventions designed to surpress and oppress both the intelectual classes, the working class and bring about the downfall of the upper class.
In short; they suck.

**iproxtaco**

Serge approves of the votes for Red.

**lord commissar klimino**

purplefood wrote:Yellow would take par but it is currently caught in the midst of an economic depression, drought, famine, civil war, flu epidemic and a series of social conventions designed to surpress and oppress both the intelectual classes, the working class and bring about the downfall of the upper class.
In short; they suck.

yellow sucks? green is the one that sucks! its used in yellows place all the time.and if you throw in mother nature it is used even less than less.heck,all that green drowns out red to.

**Grakmar**

lord commissar klimino wrote:what about yellow? its a primary. yet people always use red,blue,and green for stuff...never got it.

as for me i just like blue better.

IMO it comes from fire and water.they are natural enemy's and those are their colors so everyone uses red and blue. also maybe thats why they use green.grass,plants and stuff.yellow isnt really a major force of nature like those 3.

Yellow is NOT a primary color. Red, Blue, and Green are the primary colors.

The "primary" colors you learned in grade school are actually the secondary colors (yellow, cyan, magenta). You learned it this way because paint (and ink) works by subtracting colors, not adding them. And, your grade school art teacher is more familiar with paint than with science.

This is why printer ink (which works with subtracting colors) uses yellow, cyan, and magenta. And, it's why you can't print white.

**remilia_scarlet**

biccat wrote:
remilia_scarlet wrote:It doesn't matter which color you chose, it's all about skills.

Spoken like a true ~~loser~~ blueist.

Heretic!

Actually, if you've ever seen remilia scarlet....

Spoiler:

**purplefood**

lord commissar klimino wrote:
purplefood wrote:Yellow would take par but it is currently caught in the midst of an economic depression, drought, famine, civil war, flu epidemic and a series of social conventions designed to surpress and oppress both the intelectual classes, the working class and bring about the downfall of the upper class.
In short; they suck.

yellow sucks? green is the one that sucks! its used in yellows place all the time.and if you throw in mother nature it is used even less than less.heck,all that green drowns out red to.

Heretic. Red is the only true power. All those Bluesers out there better get ready 'cos we're coming for you.
Yellow isn't going anywhere fast either...

**lord commissar klimino**

purplefood wrote:
lord commissar klimino wrote:
purplefood wrote:Yellow would take par but it is currently caught in the midst of an economic depression, drought, famine, civil war, flu epidemic and a series of social conventions designed to surpress and oppress both the intelectual classes, the working class and bring about the downfall of the upper class.
In short; they suck.

yellow sucks? green is the one that sucks! its used in yellows place all the time.and if you throw in mother nature it is used even less than less.heck,all that green drowns out red to.

Heretic. Red is the only true power. All those Bluesers out there better get ready 'cos we're coming for you.
Yellow isn't going anywhere fast either...

true....i like what red stands for better (evil,bloodshed,etc.) but i think blue looks cooler. oh gosh...bad pun is bad.

**dajobe**

Grakmar wrote:
lord commissar klimino wrote:what about yellow? its a primary. yet people always use red,blue,and green for stuff...never got it.

as for me i just like blue better.

IMO it comes from fire and water.they are natural enemy's and those are their colors so everyone uses red and blue. also maybe thats why they use green.grass,plants and stuff.yellow isnt really a major force of nature like those 3.

Yellow is NOT a primary color. Red, Blue, and Green are the primary colors.

The "primary" colors you learned in grade school are actually the secondary colors (yellow, cyan, magenta). You learned it this way because paint (and ink) works by subtracting colors, not adding them. And, your grade school art teacher is more familiar with paint than with science.

This is why printer ink (which works with subtracting colors) uses yellow, cyan, and magenta. And, it's why you can't print white.

i never knew that is how printer cartidges worked, thats freakin sweet. I guess i learned my fact for the day,Thx Grakmar!

**lord commissar klimino**

dajobe wrote:
Grakmar wrote:
lord commissar klimino wrote:what about yellow? its a primary. yet people always use red,blue,and green for stuff...never got it.

as for me i just like blue better.

IMO it comes from fire and water.they are natural enemy's and those are their colors so everyone uses red and blue. also maybe thats why they use green.grass,plants and stuff.yellow isnt really a major force of nature like those 3.

Yellow is NOT a primary color. Red, Blue, and Green are the primary colors.

The "primary" colors you learned in grade school are actually the secondary colors (yellow, cyan, magenta). You learned it this way because paint (and ink) works by subtracting colors, not adding them. And, your grade school art teacher is more familiar with paint than with science.

This is why printer ink (which works with subtracting colors) uses yellow, cyan, and magenta. And, it's why you can't print white.

i never knew that is how printer cartidges worked, thats freakin sweet. I guess i learned my fact for the day,Thx Grakmar!

i kinda knew that i just never really thought about it cause this is the only time it ever would of been helpful. so yeah,woohoo? i learned stuff?

**biccat**

dajobe wrote:
Grakmar wrote:
lord commissar klimino wrote:what about yellow? its a primary. yet people always use red,blue,and green for stuff...never got it.

as for me i just like blue better.

IMO it comes from fire and water.they are natural enemy's and those are their colors so everyone uses red and blue. also maybe thats why they use green.grass,plants and stuff.yellow isnt really a major force of nature like those 3.

Yellow is NOT a primary color. Red, Blue, and Green are the primary colors.

The "primary" colors you learned in grade school are actually the secondary colors (yellow, cyan, magenta). You learned it this way because paint (and ink) works by subtracting colors, not adding them. And, your grade school art teacher is more familiar with paint than with science.

This is why printer ink (which works with subtracting colors) uses yellow, cyan, and magenta. And, it's why you can't print white.

i never knew that is how printer cartidges worked, thats freakin sweet. I guess i learned my fact for the day,Thx Grakmar!

Actually it depends on you're looking at primary subtractive colors (e.g. paints and inks) or primary additive colors (e.g. tv, computer screens, etc). The primary subtractive colors are Cyan, Magenta, and Yellow. The primary additive colors are Red, Blue, and Green.

See Wikipedia.

**htj**

It saddens me that weak, non-posting, passive aggressive blue lovers have taken the lead in the poll.

However, I take absolute joy that this thread has produced klimino's quote:

yellow sucks? green is the one that sucks!

...which made me very happy. Also, the talk about ink cartridges is interesting.