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Ok so i am completly new to WHFB, i do however play the crap out of Warmachine. i was orignally going to get into 40k but i fell out of that, then i decided to pick up Warmachine. after playing it i love Warmachine. i have so much invested but i also want to have another game to supplement my stuff to make it so i dont just burn out on Warmachine.

outside of that i got a incomplete BFSP boxset i am only missing like 4 models from the dwarf army and they appeal more to me then other WHFB races. Dwarves naturally appeal to me for some reason. SO what would be the best upgrades to get me to 1000pts from the 600~ pts out of the BFSP Boxset.

What i currently have (including getting missing models)

Dwarf Thane(HW+Shield)
Dragon Slayer(HW x2)
12 Dwarf Warriors (HW+Shield, FC)
10 Thunderers(handguns, FC)
8 Miners (FC)
cannon(3 crew)

i am thinking of just grabbing a GT and supplementing the rest of the army to bolster the models. still learning numbers but i think i want to have atleast 20 Warriors grab 2 more miners, and GT, if i have the points get 10+ Warriors with GW. possibly switch out the Slayer or thane for a Runesmith/lord i am looking for just a utilitary Dwarf army covering a little bit of different aspects.

I wrote up what I believe to be a pretty good guide for starting dwarfs here a few posts in: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/363667.page

A GT is a must, and I do love the BSB model but you could always convert up your own.

Battalion is a really great buy I would highly recommend it.

Make 10 thunderers and save the rest for a quarreller with great weapon unit down the road. Use the thane from the BFSP as a Runemith. So you will have this:

Runesmith
BSB
Dragon Slayer-Great for protecting war machines
44 Warriors
20 Thunderers-Possibly 26 if you wanted them all as thunderers
8 Miners for war machine hunting, avoid using these on Ogres and WoC where they are just going to charge you.
GT
Organ Gun
and Cannon

Solid start. For lower point games you can probably split the warriors into 2 groups, I recommend hand weapon/shield and great weapons. As you get to like 1500 pts a 35-45 strong unit of horded GW warriors will chop up almost anything you throw them at.

Well i am shy a couple models to complete my BFSP 2-player. i am thinking about just getting my missing stuff for that to learn off. i need some nite gobby stuff but then i would have a good start and can play the game with a buddy of mine.

BFSP what i need, thread

dwarves are only missing 1 base, a thunderer the Warrior Vet and an additional Warrior.

Nite Gobby are missing a couple.

i am missing the Shaman
a couple archers including Vet
a couple Spearmen including Vet and 2 Standards
and i think a couple more. i am missing 1 spider for the riders, i have the base and the gobby but the spider is gone lol. so i have a "Special" spider to replace it.

Have you checked your local hobby stores for a BFSP set? Might be worth just finding one that is tucked away some where and then buying that and using the models you have to increase your forces.

Oh if I could find a BFSP set..... (dreams of the gobliny goodness)

And a BSB is always solid in 1000 points

Well my go to 1k list looks like this:
Runesmith (RoResistance, RoStone, Shield) - 102
Thane (BSB, MRoGromril) - 115
29 Warriors (Great Weapons + Full Command) - 315
16 Quarrellers (Great Weapons + Full Command) - 233
Cannon (Rune of Forging-Lets you reroll any misfires, Rune of Burning-flaming attack) - 130
Grudge Thrower (Rune of Accuracy-reroll scatter dice) - 105
1000

You could grab a GT, box of quarrellers/thunderers, box of warriors (you could proxy miners as warriors) and the BSB and be set. the 2 boxes of units will run you $70 for $30 more you get the battalion which is an extra box of warriors and a 2nd cannon or organ gun though. If you have the pony cart from the BFSP there are guides to convert it to a cannon or organ gun with the left over bitz from the battalion or cannon/organ gun box.

Ralin, if you really want some gobliny goodness, i would be willing to trade some gobliny goodness if you have some dwarves that your willing to trade.

my town has 1 LGS i play warmachine with the owner all the time. he hates GW with passion. he has sold some BFSP in the past but he doesnt have any. i may check ebay and get the few missing models i need. i am also considering just getting rid of the Nite Gobby and getting more dwarves. there are a couple LGS in the town i work Joplin, MO thats 25 miles away. one i know has 40k don't know about fantasy. and the other i know has 40k as well. so i have 2 potential locations to play fantasy.

the Battalion is on my list. that is definatly a good buy, considering the GW prices.

Warmachine does take priority $$ wise. so i can trade enough to get to 1k on my army that way i can learn Warhammer. ill talk it over with a couple of my friends who i was gonna ask if they wanted to learn the game.


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ok so i am thinking of the following as my list.

Runesmith
Thane (BSB)
16 Longbeards (HW+Shield)
2x16 or 32 Warriors (GW)
20 Thunderers/Rangers
10 Miners
Orgun Gun
Cannon
GT

i dont have my book at hand but that should be close to 1k if its lightly over i can downgrade the longbeards to warriors and i could pass on the GT, i don't have large quantities of money so i am looking at what i could potentially trade for or purchase from Ebay. correct me if i am wrong but are the longbeards better with HW+Shield? or GW? i read where the Longbeards benefit better from HW+Shield.

Ok so that i can get what i want i have to goto 1500 points.

Thane (BSB, MRoGromril) 165
Runesmith (RoResistance, RoSpellbreaking, Shield) 122
x16 Longbeards (HW+Shield, FC, MRoGrungni) 267
x20 Warriors (GW, FC) 225
x20 Thunderers (FC, Vet w/ Brace of Pistols) 205
x10 Miners (FC, SD, BC) 190
Orgun Gun (RoForging) 155
GT (RoAccuracy, RoFlaiming) 110pts

total: 1439pts

You're getting there man a couple things.
1. Organ Guns cannot have runes, the technology is too new and Dwarfs haven't perfected it yet.
2. Thane is fine but is only 115 pts I would grab RoResistance as well he is that important.
3. Runesmith is good, at 1,500 you may be able to grab a MRoBalance but spellbreaking is great, with the current build I would add a 5pt RoStone, but remember you are capped at 75pts so you can't do MRoBalance, RoResist and RoStone.
4. Longbeards look a little light and you have over 25% core covered with the warriors and thunderers so think of going with Hammerers to save 1pt per model for the same stats.
5. 20 Thunderers is a lot at this level, you do need to get your minimum core but typically an Organ Gun can do their job better as it auto hits, once in combat that unit is not going to do much with no shields and S3, down the road you may consider quarrellers, their shooting is less but great weapons make them viable as warriors in combat minus the extra armor save.
6. 10 miners is a tough number, here is the deal with miners. You want to take a small number of 5-6 without a steam drill maybe 2 units to increase their chances 1 will show up and take down a war machine. Or you take them in 20+ with the steam drill to really take out gun lines where a lot of the enemy force is sitting back.

mmmmkay, i even read that the Orgun Gun was too new not long ago and forgot about that.

how is the Thane only 115? he is 65 base, +25 for BSB and +75 MRoGromril. thats 165. where is the 50pt reduction from?

i was thinking of swapping the roles of the Longbeards and the Warriors. make them both x16, give the longbeards the GW weapons and the warriors HW+Shield.

i don't want to run Hammers ATM, when i move to larger numbers, like 2500 ill grab hammers and add the King on the Golden Throne. plus a Anvil of Doom =]

the miners are there for War MAchine hunting. i have 8 atm so that can change up numbers as well. i may drop to 16 Thunderers and swap them to Quarrellers with GW.

ill recalculate and possibly drop numbers enough to get 1kpts lol.

MRoGromil is 25pts.

All up to you on how you want to run your long beard/warriors. Great weapons are nice though, and Grungi is nice as well if you face a lot of shooting armies.

how is MRoGromril only 25pts?
i was going to post a list but i realized i don't have warriors. meaning i can't have Longbeards lol.


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Alright, here is my new list and i think it will be my final Draft.

Thane (BSB, MRoGrimril)(165?) 115
Runesmith (RoResistance, RoSpellbreaking, RoStone, Shield) 127
x15 Warriors (HW+Shield, FC) 160
x20 Longbeards (GW, FC, MRoGrungni) 335
x20 Quarrellers (GW, FC) 285?
x8 Miners (FC, BC) 143
Grudge Thrower (RoAccuracy, RoFlaming) 110
Grudge Thrower (RoAccuracy) 105
Orgun Gun 120

1500pt

i really wanted the 2 GTs, but to get those i had to shimey in some numbers. i dont want to loose my 8 Miners, they are my War Machine hunters, and in order to run my Longbeards i had to have a unit of Warriors. so i set them up as a "Expendable Defense" i went 20 Quarrellers with GW i like the idea of having a ranged unit that can make others cry in melee. the Orgun Gun will take the place of my poor Thunderers T.T i like this list, and i feel good about it. so its what i will work for.

outside of that i may use what i have in dwarves and what i am getting in the mail in a couple weeks, to make a 1k army to play untill i get all of my 1500pt list done.


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ok so after some formulating i have my 1k list.
the aim was as little modification from the BFSP models that way i can get playing quicker.

Thane (BSB, MRoGrimril) 115
Runesmith (RoResistance, RoSpellbreaking, RoStone, Shield) 127
Dragon Slayer (RoCleaving) 90
x12 Warriors (HW+Shield, FC) 133
x10 Thunderers (FC, Vet w/ Brace of Pistols) 165
x8 Miners (FC, BC) 118
Cannon (RoForging, RoBruning) 130
Orgun Gun 120
998pt

i don't know if i can have 3 heros or not. but it was a quick add to what i am getting in the mail.
so by adding an Orgun Gun and the Runesmith i get 2pt shy of 1k. i think this will be a great list to start with. and then i will work on the 1500pt list.
since i have the chariot thing from the BFSP i can get the bits to make an Orgun Gun. i could also drop the cannon for a GT but i want to get the army completed quicker and that would involve waiting.

Sorry busy at work today, I'll try and get to some comments a little later. No force organization like in 40k, in fantasy it's limited to percentages. Up too 25% Lord, 25% Hero, 50% Special, 25% Rare and at least 25% must be core.

Also are you using the current army book? Your dragon slayer is 20pts over.


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OK latest lists. The 1500 looks pretty good, I prefer larger blocks of infantry. The 1k looks good too, I mean you are missing some heavy hitters without great weapons, maybe drop the Shield on the Runesmith and grab a 2handed weapon.

Only thing I would change is the Blasting Charges on the Miners. Essentially they are crap. First off based on the size and what you have said they are war machine hunters so you will rarely get charged, they can only be used for stand and shoot so right there they are ehhh. 2nd is D6 hits Str 6 you are looking at 3-4 hits S6 against T3 so you should be doing wound since it's on a 2+ but one of those can very well be a 1 so more like 3 wounds. This is viable for things like Cavalry where you may get them to lose 25% of their unit and panic but probably not. The concept is cool but 30points to maybe kill 2-3 models that unless they are worth 10-15pts you aren't getting your points back. You're better off with a steam drill to increase your chances of showing up early and 2 S6 attacks per turn.

ratch wrote:how is MRoGromril only 25pts?
i was going to post a list but i realized i don't have warriors. meaning i can't have Longbeards lol.


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Alright, here is my new list and i think it will be my final Draft.

Thane (BSB, MRoGrimril)(165?) 115
Runesmith (RoResistance, RoSpellbreaking, RoStone, Shield) 127
x15 Warriors (HW+Shield, FC) 160
x20 Longbeards (GW, FC, MRoGrungni) 335
x20 Quarrellers (GW, FC) 285?
x8 Miners (FC, BC) 143
Grudge Thrower (RoAccuracy, RoFlaming) 110
Grudge Thrower (RoAccuracy) 105
Orgun Gun 120

1500pt

i really wanted the 2 GTs, but to get those i had to shimey in some numbers. i dont want to loose my 8 Miners, they are my War Machine hunters, and in order to run my Longbeards i had to have a unit of Warriors. so i set them up as a "Expendable Defense" i went 20 Quarrellers with GW i like the idea of having a ranged unit that can make others cry in melee. the Orgun Gun will take the place of my poor Thunderers T.T i like this list, and i feel good about it. so its what i will work for.

outside of that i may use what i have in dwarves and what i am getting in the mail in a couple weeks, to make a 1k army to play untill i get all of my 1500pt list done.


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ok so after some formulating i have my 1k list.
the aim was as little modification from the BFSP models that way i can get playing quicker.

Thane (BSB, MRoGrimril) 115
Runesmith (RoResistance, RoSpellbreaking, RoStone, Shield) 127
Dragon Slayer (RoCleaving) 90
x12 Warriors (HW+Shield, FC) 133
x10 Thunderers (FC, Vet w/ Brace of Pistols) 165
x8 Miners (FC, BC) 118
Cannon (RoForging, RoBruning) 130
Orgun Gun 120
998pt

i don't know if i can have 3 heros or not. but it was a quick add to what i am getting in the mail.
so by adding an Orgun Gun and the Runesmith i get 2pt shy of 1k. i think this will be a great list to start with. and then i will work on the 1500pt list.
since i have the chariot thing from the BFSP i can get the bits to make an Orgun Gun. i could also drop the cannon for a GT but i want to get the army completed quicker and that would involve waiting.

I think I would switch the gw on to the warriors and the shields to the longbeards in your 1500 list. I think I would also put the 8 miners into the gw block and save the points to maybe make the quarrelers into rangers since you already paid for gw on them.

As for the 1k list it is illegal. You are over your 25% allowance for heroes. If you drop the dragon slayer you can bulk up your warriors. I think I would also drop the miners again for more warriors and maybe shields on the thunderers.

Those are just my preferences though. If you like the miners keep them or if you think it would cause too much confusion to combine them into a gw dwarf unit then don't worry about it. The lists will work to get a few games in. The other thing you could do (and I am not sure on the cost of demon slayers) is to run a naked demon slayer (count for lord percentage instead of hero), but you would have to drop probably the blasting charges.

boogeyman wrote:I think I would switch the gw on to the warriors and the shields to the longbeards in your 1500 list. I think I would also put the 8 miners into the gw block and save the points to maybe make the quarrelers into rangers since you already paid for gw on them.

As for the 1k list it is illegal. You are over your 25% allowance for heroes. If you drop the dragon slayer you can bulk up your warriors. I think I would also drop the miners again for more warriors and maybe shields on the thunderers.

Those are just my preferences though. If you like the miners keep them or if you think it would cause too much confusion to combine them into a gw dwarf unit then don't worry about it. The lists will work to get a few games in. The other thing you could do (and I am not sure on the cost of demon slayers) is to run a naked demon slayer (count for lord percentage instead of hero), but you would have to drop probably the blasting charges.

the reason i went with the Slayer was to make minimal changes so that i could use the BFSP set and not worry about making changes to the numbers.
the reason i went with GW on the Longbeards is because i wanted the higher strength stat to cause mosre damage. the only reason i have warriors is because i can't have more units of Longbeards then Warriros 1>=0 therefore a unite of Warriors to beef a defensive would make them nicer.
i like the miners. they are a fun aspect about Dwarves and they make great War Machine hunters. thats why i am using them. i could potentially replace my Longbeards with the Miners giving the prospector the Steam drill and running ~20 of them. however i prefer the idea of a small unit for hunting. in a 2k+ army i would probly run 2 units of 6 for the hunting. i thought that 3 heros was to many for 1k. ill probly look into that idea on running Demon Slayer.
Rangers sound cool but i think ill stick with the Quarrellers. if i dropped anything it would be the Longbeards for more warriors and then think about Rangers. which is a high posibility.

for now though i am just getting the BFSP rebuilt so that i can play that. I don't know if i will get a larger army the WHFB scene is not popular in my area. the "Interest" is there but no one wants to get an army. so i don't know if i will even get a army atm. i am moving to KC next year so i'll look at getting stuff then since ill bet the WHFB scene is bigger.

Thane (BSB, MRoGrimril) 115
Runesmith (RoResistance, RoSpellbreaking, RoStone, Shield) 127
x15 Warriors (HW+Shield, FC) 160
x20 Longbeards (GW, FC, MRoGrungni/RoBattle, RoStoicism) 335
x20 Quarrellers (GW, FC) 285
x8 Miners (FC) 113
Grudge Thrower (RoAccuracy, RoFlaming) 110
Grudge Thrower (RoAccuracy, RoPenetrating) 130
Orgun Gun 120
1495pt

ended up removing the Blasting Charges in favor of another Rune on my GT. i also rechecked my Longbeards Runes. so i have 2 setups for the Runes. Grungni for if the opponent favors ranged or Battle+Stoicism if they favor melee. it will make my Longbeards more powerful. ill probly just run the BFSP armies to learn and expand to the 1500 list first.

hmmmm 1k....

Demon Slayers are very expensive. even a naked one is hard to fit in. if anything i could drop some Rune from the thane and maybe one other off the Smith. maybe Spellbreaking off the smith. i don't have my book handy to check the numbers. however i do have a Dwarf lord that i could consider as well. and if i win the auction ill be getting an OOP Organ Gun and another Cannon so i could run a second cannon instead of the character? although i would still need to clear up the points, a naked cannon probly wouldnt bet that good.

Thane (BSB, MRoGrimril) 115
Runesmith (RoResistance, RoSpellbreaking, RoStone) 125
x12 Warriors (HW+Shield, FC) 133
x10 Thunderers (FC, Vet w/ Brace of Pistols) 165
x8 Miners (FC) 113
Cannon (RoForging, RoBruning) 130
Cannon(RoForging) 125
Orgun Gun 120
1026/1000pt

may drop the Runesmith's shield and go GW, as well drop Spellbreaker. Resistance and Stone should suffice in a 1k army. runesmith's GW is 4pt right? what is spellbreaker?25? 30? if its 30 that would be perfect. if the GW is 4pt.. add 4 and reduce 30 and i would be 1000pt on the nose. i have the book at home. would just like to get info now xD


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So while posting my opinion on another dwarf list i was thinking. i really like the Versitility of Quarrellers. so i was thinking. if i drop the Warriors and the Longbeards grab Hammers and another unit of Quarrellers with GW. i wander how effective that would be. Do the Hammers only get buffed by the throne or can i run a Dwarf Lord to get the Hammers their buff? ill have to go home and check out hammerers.

as per my last post, auto appended, i am considering running hammers, and 2 regiments of Quarrellers. that will look as follows

Thane (BSB, MRoGrimril) 115
Runesmith (RoResistance, RoSpellbreaking, RoStone, Shield) 127
x16 Hammerers (FC, HW+Shld) 208
x20 Quarrellers (GW, FC) 285
x20 Quarrellers (GW, FC) 285
x8 Miners (FC) 113
Grudge Thrower (RoAccuracy, RoFlaming) 110
Grudge Thrower (RoAccuracy, RoPenetrating) 130
Orgun Gun 120
1493pt

so the hammerers guard the War machines. While the Smith, Thane and Quarrellers adavnce. the quarrellers will use their Xbows to suppress and reduce enemy numbers and then GW to the face once they are too close for the Xbows.

You need to check your point costs that hammer unit is 238 with full command and shields. Quarrellers are awesome, but don't expect their shooting to do much, they just make them more versitile and it helps to have one be rangers for scouting. BS shooting for dwarfs is lacking and is more for taking out small troops or putting the last wound on that monster trying to run away to deny points. Also they have the stand and shoot rule so you can't shoot them in the turn you moved them making them not ideal for advancing to the enemy. For the same price as the hammer unit you could get almost 24 shield warriors, granted the hammerers are better but numbers helps. If you are looking for something to protect war machines, an Organ Gun works great, also consider a Dragon Slayer 50 points could save you an extra round of shooting WS6, T5, 2W and unbreakable it will be more manueverable then any multi model unit you stick near them and may be able to get between a threat and the war machine while not blocking LOS.

ewww.... Stand and shoot just made me want to steer clear of Ranged models unless i got all ranged. sounds like GW Warriors and Longbeards to me =]

1500pts is still in the Air so here is my 1k List i will be building for.

Thane (BSB, MRoGrimril) 115
Runesmith (RoResistance, RoSpellbreaking, RoStone) 125
x24 Warriors (HW+Shield, FC) 241
x10 Thunderers (FC, Vet w/ Brace of Pistols) 165
x8 Miners (FC) 113
Orgun Gun 120
Orgun Gun 120

the beauty is 2 OG and 12 more warrior will ge tme this list =] i have a Cannon that could be used and modified to be an OG to give me the 2 i need. and sinc ei have the BFSP all i need is the 12 Warriors from another BFSP to get the numbers.

1500 is probably going to just be some GW Warriors, GW Longbeards, Miners, 2 OG, 1 GT, Runesmith, BSB. gotta crunch numbers but thats what it'll be =]


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here is another attempt at 1500pt of Dwarven smexiness.

Runesmith (RoResistance, RoSpellbreaking, RoStone) 125
Thane (BSB, MRoGrimril) 115
x12 Warrior (HW+SHLD, FC) 133
x12 Warrior (HW+SHLD, FC) 133
x20 Warrior (GW, FC) 225
x20 Longbeards (GW, FC) 285
x6 Miners (FC) 91
Grudge Thrower (RoAccuracy, RoBurning) 110pt
Organ Gun 120pt
Organ Gun 120pt
1457/1500pts

the 2 sets of 12 Shield Warriors are for interference. the GW Longbeards and GW Warriors are for the Assault force. the backup from the OG and GT. Miners are my War Machine hunters =] thane may fall in with the GW Warrirors. Runesmith will hang out near the Warmachines he is kinda defense/sitting pretty. i have 43 pts and i want some Runes on the Longbeards, if i could free up 7 more Points i could have 50 pts for RoBattle and RoStoicism. Don't have my book on me. i COULD drop 1 HW+Shld War to free up 9 pts. that would allow for those Runes and leave 2pts. the BSB can fall in with the block of the 11 Warriors. i want the 2 smaller groups as interference for pincher moves with the Warriors and Longbeards. the small blocks will be the counter to charge so i can stop the big hitters and then come in from the sides with the Warriors and Longbeards.

C&C please

Some passing comments- I'd think about getting a rune of resistance on the BSB- possibly even stealing it from the runesmith. That said, if you find the MR of Gromril to be sufficient protection on its own in your particular environment, then stick with it.

If you *do* keep rune of resistance on the runesmith, give him a shield. It's cheap, gives him a parry and helps make the most out of your re-rolled save.

Are you playing 8th edition? I notice you mention rune of stoicism several times in this thread, but it literally does nothing in 8th.

Final point- full command is not advisable on very small units (10 thunderers, 12 man warriors). Musician is usually worth it for rallying and swift reforms. That will break loose some more points that you should probably use to bulk out the great weapons. They hit hard, but die quickly too.

Musician is 10pt right?

my list normally has a shield on the RSmith. problem is my model doesn't have one xD although i could have one hanging on his back?

should i drop one of the Shield Warriors and beef up the GW Warriors?

Im considering moving the longbeards to just warriors and having them as another GW Warrior troop. that would free 60 pts. which is 6 more GW Warriors.

Runesmith (RoResistance, RoSpellbreaking, RoStone, Shield) 127
Thane (BSB, MRoGrimril) 115
x13 Warriors (HW+SHLD, Musician) 127
x32 Warriors (GW, FC) 225
x32 Warriors (GW, FC) 225
x6 Miners (FC) 91
Grudge Thrower (RoAccuracy, RoBurning) 110pt
Organ Gun 120pt
Organ Gun 120pt
1500pt

12 Shield Warriors meant my total would be 9pts shy of being even. so that was just enough to make the list an even 1500pt. same kind of concept, the BSB jumps in with the warriors and runs interference. the GW Warriors come around the sides to wipe out the attacking regiments.

Musician for warriors is only 5 points. Is the full command on the miners more of a models available thing? I'd consider putting them at just a musician too. That'd be another 15 points.

Not clear from your blurb- are you intending the shield warriors to hold a charge and then hit the flanks with great weapons?

Red_Zeke wrote:Musician for warriors is only 5 points. Is the full command on the miners more of a models available thing? I'd consider putting them at just a musician too. That'd be another 15 points.

Not clear from your blurb- are you intending the shield warriors to hold a charge and then hit the flanks with great weapons?

Yeah kinda, i heard about peoples that use small groups of HW+Shld Warriors to hold a charge for the GW Warriors to do a pincher move.

You could experiment with it, but I don't think you'll find much success with such a small unit holding a charge. I've used a unit of 10 in the past as war machine protectors and redirectors, but they can only really fight other small units, like warhounds, gutter runners, skinks and the like.

hmmm.... then i may drop the Shield Warriors and maybe a couple GW Warriors as needed and get a 10 man of quarrellers for some shooty-ness and War machine protection.

Runesmith (RoResistance, RoSpellbreaking, RoStone, Shield) 127pt
Thane (BSB, MRoGrimril) 115pt
x10 Quarrelers (GW, FC) 155pt
x30 Warriors (GW, FC) 325pt
x31 Warriors (GW, FC) 335pt
x6 Miners (FC) 91pt
Grudge Thrower (RoAccuracy, RoBurning) 110pt
Organ Gun 120pt
Organ Gun 120pt
1498pt

Looks pretty solid. Now play some games and report them back to the Dakka Fantasy crew!

still getting models lol. my 1k list will be the first thing i build to lol. all the models to complete my Battle For Skull Pass are on order. so ill get a couple games in before long.


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Thane (BSB, MRoGrimril) 115
Runesmith (RoResistance, RoSpellbreaking, RoStone) 125
x24 Warriors (HW+Shield, FC) 241
x10 Thunderers (FC, Vet w/ Brace of Pistols) 165
x8 Miners (FC) 113
Orgun Gun 120
Orgun Gun 120

How does this look for a intro 1k list?
the only models outside the BFSP models i have are 6 metals, 4 OOP GW Warriors, OOP RuneSmith/lord, Dwarf Lord. I found out that the Dwarf lord i bought is actually King Kazador(sp?) with his banner thing clipped off.

my Thane from BFSP currently has a "Battle Standard" pole sticking from his back. the pole is from the OOP Anvil of Doom. i saw that when i was browsing Ebay the other day. i have some Dwarf Warrior Bits on the way and ill be gluing one of the Banners to his pole to make him a full fledged BSB. since BSB can't have the Shield a Warrior Arm and GreenStuff will cover up the Shield xD

If you haven't really played any games, then I'd say that list will do just fine. Experience playing is a much bigger benefit than any list at this point.

There's some things I'd shift if you had the models- the standard and veterans on the miners and thunderers should probably go. And as before, recommend you add a shield to that runesmith.

But really, the best way to improve this list is to play some games!