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Khorne list daemons - 1997

Bloodthirster - 275
Might
Blessing

Bloodthirster - 250

4x Crushers - Full Command - 200

4x Crushers - Full Command - 200

7x Bloodletters - 112

8x Bloodletters - 128

8x Bloodletters - 128

8x Bloodletters - 128

8x Bloodletters - 128

8x Bloodletters - 128

Soulgrinder - 160
Phlegm

Soulgrinder - 160
Phlegm

Sorry If I offended you previously, I was just giving you a hard time cause I have seen you write some nice lists. Right of the bat I am going to say Skarbrand is not worth it in a all khorne army. He is not worthy of the Blood God any more fluff wise and that explains why he does better with Khorne's arch enemy Slaanesh. Pretty much your initiative is too low to really get the most of the re rolls, your enemy more often than not will be hitting you or simultaneous with re rolls.

Flesh Hounds and Soul Grinders are helpful in mono khorne and upgrading the crusher squads completely is invaluable.

I was thinking of dropping off skarbrand, but in an all Khorne army with 75 bloodletters, rerolls would just be brutal, but not necessary. Also it'd be nice to have some wings in the army haha. Ill swap him out for a thirster. Also I am posting up a second list that might do better...

PS: you didnt offened me haha youre cool. It was some tool on other posts. You advice is always taken and welcomed. =]

Something like this would treat you better man.

Bloodthirster blessing 255
Skulltaker jugg 175

4 Bloodcrushers INSTRUMENT, ICON, FURY 200 (Always upgrade your crushers completely it is mandatory)
4 Bloodcrushers 200 full command

15 Bloodletters 240
15 Bloodletters 240
13 Bloodletters 208

Soul Grinder Phlegm 160
Soul Grinder Phlegm 160
Soul Grinder Phlegm 160

I dont understand why the crushers need the full command? Could ya explain that to me? lol

Also wouldnt having MSU of bloodletters be a better tactic? more charges?

Hey xSoulgrinderx,

Sanateaph has good imput. Out of your list the second is better mostly because the first lacks antitankpower. I do agree with your assesment that MSU fits Bloodletters well.
Id do something like this:

255 Bloodthirster, blessing
255 Bloodthirster, blessing

200 4 Bloodcrushers, full command
200 4 Bloodcrushers, full command

80 5 Bloodletters
80 5 Bloodletters
80 5 Bloodletters
80 5 Bloodletters
80 5 Bloodletters
80 5 Bloodletters

120 8 Flesh Hounds, Fury (left over 10 points)

160 Soul Grinder, Phlegm
160 Soul Grinder, Phlegm
160 Soul Grinder, Tongue

2000

I feel you have enough Bloodletters this way and the second Thirster would make for a significant increase in antitank, mobility and pressure. It also thins out heavy fire to your other Thirster and the Soulgrinders.

If you're fixed on having a lot of Bloodletters you could do without the second Thirster and use the points to spread additional Bloodletters over the units.

The idea behind the 'full command' on the Bloodcrushers is to have a complex unit. Each Bloodcrusher has two wounds. You can distribute wounds to differently equiped models in a unit. This means that a unit of 4 Crushers with full command could take 4 wounds without losing a model. The damagepotential of the unit thus remains unharmed. The rul for multiwounds models in a unit is that you have to assign unsaved wounds to the same model. With Bloodcrushers this would normaly mean that every second wound causes you to loose a Bloodcrusher. Not so when they're all differently equiped.

Good luck with your list!

Cilithan

You know I have never tried MSU with Bloodletters. I always figured larger squads so they do not die. I will give it a shot.

HAHA! I understand the full command now! brilliant!!!

Also for MSU with bloodletters you have to have them between 8-15. Anylower and they just become shooting practice. Thats why I field them in squads of 10, as well, when you have MSU there is a ratio between effeciency and size. Too small and theyre useless, to big and you could lose lots. Finding the right number is key. Also its nice to have a nice even size of units, lots of 5 man squads means more chance to mishap.

I agree that a second thirster would add a lot of threat to the list, and a grinder with tounge isnt such a bad idea either, however i found that flesh hounds are worthless. They act as fodder and lack serious killing power. For the same pts, I could take more letters. Its just a better fit. Heres how I'd change up this list =]

275 Bloodthirster, blessing, might
275 Bloodthirster, blessing, might

200 4 Bloodcrushers, full command
200 4 Bloodcrushers, full command

128 7 Bloodletters
128 7 Bloodletters
128 7 Bloodletters
128 7 Bloodletters
128 7 Bloodletters

160 Soul Grinder, Phlegm
160 Soul Grinder, Phlegm
160 Soul Grinder, Tongue

Total - 1990

Consider dropping the second thister and a few letters to get your hands on 2 khorne chariots.

About the same same punch as a combat daemon prince and two more large base models to take pressure off your grinders.

The question between toungue and phlegm is a hard one, my thought is str 8 fails against av 13/14 so that would be what you would want to toungue. However a Sg is such crap BS that you would need two to be reliable. So the question is either 2 toungues or 3 phlegms. just one toungue and youll be assaulting high av tanks anyways.

Ya. Thats the plan, deepstrike in next to a tank, shoot with tounge, pray it hits, then assault next turn with fleet, or shoot again if i think its close enough. The phlegm always does great.

2 Charoits compared to a thirster is not that big of a threat. Also, they lack the intimidation factor. With 2 Thirsters and 3 grinders they wont know what to shoot at, and that being said, if there were 2 charoits, they'd just ignore them as a non lethal threat. Much rather take a thirster

Got to use the Khorne list today. Boarded the opponent, he was playing Necrons. Had to use the fiends to sub for a soulgrinder, they were my only loss, along with 2 squads of letters. Anyone have any chances they'd suggest to either list?

New list in original post.
Tell me what ya think?

Hehe, isnt this the list I demolished this weekend to a certain point (poke)

....jerk lol ... Just so ya guys know Razor is my mortal enemy.... I mean... seriously 11,000 pts of necrons....


Him and I played on friday and I use this Khorne list against a monolith spam and a nightbringer with a lord and immortals.... I was annihilated. I just can kill those damned monoliths!!!!

Wait wait...two bloodthirsters charging a monolith cant kill it? something is wrong here, they have 6 attacks, str 9 on the charge. 3 hits if average and if it moved. You should have at least damaged it with 3 str 9 hits....

Yeah, weapon destroyed. Not that matters when the only thing you can kill is the guass flux arc and you have to destroy it 6 times. The power matrix cant be destroyed.

And his nightbringer took out one of them before it did anything...

Hacked to bits, lol. But yeah the thirster should have done something but, no offense, but sir you have no luck when in CC with the liths.

Not to mention bad luck with DS

Nightbringer is THE best H2H MC when it comes to hacking down everything. He doesn't even get bogged down by hordes due to etheric tempest. Honestly the best way to kill Nightbringer is to shoot at him.

I tried charging at him with 3 DPs, Skarbrand, and a Keeper of Secrets.

No saves is just bad, and with the toughness of a Wraithlord, he is just a bad idea to try and fight in melee, even for the "Greatest Melee Warriors in 40K" as Bloodthirsters are said to be.

That true xSoulgrinderx, you dont have the best of luck with DS...

Hehe, he is one of the oldest gods and knows most of the tricks in the book.

Yeah the tempest alright but the gaze is decent when your surrounded by more than 15 little buggers.

AchillesFTW wrote:Nightbringer is THE best H2H MC when it comes to hacking down everything. He doesn't even get bogged down by hordes due to etheric tempest. Honestly the best way to kill Nightbringer is to shoot at him.

I tried charging at him with 3 DPs, Skarbrand, and a Keeper of Secrets.

No saves is just bad, and with the toughness of a Wraithlord, he is just a bad idea to try and fight in melee, even for the "Greatest Melee Warriors in 40K" as Bloodthirsters are said to be.

What daemon has enough shooting to kill him? lol

You could always turn him into that demon spawn like that one time

Or Kuggoth would work. Cant do much against poison

Ya so it turns out I shouldnt have been able to spawn him. The profile says you take a toughness test, which is 1D6 under your toughness. lol

Really... well that nice to know now...

Ya, sorry about that. Didnt know about the T test. lol but, still back to topic.

2 Thirsters would be so lucky to take down a Night bringer. Other than that, theres really nothing that can get him, cept maybe flamers, but not worth wasting on a night bringer.

Having play tested 5 man bloodletter squads I feel foolish having not done so previously. They are beyond gross. I slap them behind my big stuff and mop up. They are now mandatory in all lists.

MSU FTW! Glad that worked out. I just happened to have 57 bloodletters, so I cant field units of 5. lol Units of 10 for me, lol one unit of 7.

Whenever you take a test based on stats a 6 always fails, so you can turn him into a spawn.

OH SNAP! So you CAN change a Nightbringer into a blob!

Well there you have it... If you can last that long that is