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2011/09/27 23:14:14
Subject: Draigo..... Malaal in disguise?
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Veteran ORC
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I was having a thought, which I shared with one of our fluff meisters, and he didn't like it, but I still feel it is worth bringing up to everyone's attention:
Draigo is trapped in the warp, and for most purposes, is basically a Daemon; he can not leave the warp unless it's through a warp rift, He can be summoned, and what not.
He is wrecking house against the other gods (Ok, they aren't exactly focusing on him, but you can't say he's doing badly).
So, what we have is a Daemon of Chaos who... hates Chaos, and wants to destroy everything that is to do with Chaos.
Malaal was the Chaos God that wanted to destroy Chaos because.... he Hated it, and it was his purpose to destroy everything that was to do with Chaos.
Please tell me I'm not the only one who sees the connection....
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2011/09/27 23:23:19
Subject: Draigo..... Malaal in disguise?
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Fixture of Dakka
On a boat, Trying not to die.
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Malal is retconned. So no. No he's not.
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Every Normal Man Must Be Tempted At Times To Spit On His Hands, Hoist That Black Flag, And Begin Slitting Throats. |
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2011/09/27 23:24:41
Subject: Draigo..... Malaal in disguise?
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Ancient Ultramarine Venerable Dreadnought
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No.
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2011/09/27 23:26:04
Subject: Draigo..... Malaal in disguise?
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Combat Jumping Garuda
Down Under
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No.
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2011/09/27 23:26:36
Subject: Draigo..... Malaal in disguise?
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Fixture of Dakka
On a boat, Trying not to die.
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Poor Slarg. 
Now we wait for Coa to come in and say he is...
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Every Normal Man Must Be Tempted At Times To Spit On His Hands, Hoist That Black Flag, And Begin Slitting Throats. |
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2011/09/27 23:30:39
Subject: Draigo..... Malaal in disguise?
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Mutated Chosen Chaos Marine
Sitting in yo' bath tub, poopin out shoggoths
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No, I wouldn't think he is,
but Malaal is probably very happy with Draigo for trolling the warp
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2011/09/27 23:31:52
Subject: Draigo..... Malaal in disguise?
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Fixture of Dakka
On a boat, Trying not to die.
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bombboy1252 wrote:No, I wouldn't think he is,
but Malaal is probably very happy with Draigo for trolling the warp
Malal doesn't exist. He got retconned out.
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2011/09/27 23:38:28
Subject: Draigo..... Malaal in disguise?
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Apprehensive Inquisitorial Apprentice
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Chowderhead wrote:bombboy1252 wrote:No, I wouldn't think he is,
but Malaal is probably very happy with Draigo for trolling the warp
Malal doesn't exist. He got retconned out.
Malal never even existed in 40K. And he wasn't retconned out either. The C'tan were retconned in. The Squats were retconned out. Malal was just forgotten about due to copyright laws.
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2011/09/27 23:46:45
Subject: Draigo..... Malaal in disguise?
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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No, but you have found a way in which Draigo's background could be made more annoying. So well done you.
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2011/09/28 02:59:17
Subject: Draigo..... Malaal in disguise?
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Norn Queen
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Ironsight wrote:The Squats were retconned out.
No, they weren't.
A retcon is altering a previously established fact. Retconning the Squats would be saying they never existed. What happened to the Squats was story progression. The majority of them were in the path of ( IIRC) Hive Fleet Kraken and got destroyed. That's not a retcon, since they still existed, and everything they did beforehand still stands. But they're gone, because in the story, they mostly got destroyed.
Another example like this would be Gryphonne IV. They destroyed it with Leviathan, but it previously held a place in the fluff.
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2011/09/28 04:04:35
Subject: Re:Draigo..... Malaal in disguise?
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Dakka Veteran
Eye of Terra.
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Man, I hope I'm still alive when they retcon Draigo...
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2011/09/28 04:14:03
Subject: Draigo..... Malaal in disguise?
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Fully-charged Electropriest
Richmond, VA (We are legion)
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You know how there's that whole clause of fluff saying that any fluff is regarded as a true rumor? As in, it could be a lie, but one perpetuated in the 40k universe?
I think that applies to Draigo wholeheartedly. And Matt Ward loves doing it.
What I'm trying to say is, f*** Matt Ward.
Also, bring back Malal somehow. Idgaf if you need to rename him or something, but Malal was pretty legit.
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2011/09/28 05:05:09
Subject: Draigo..... Malaal in disguise?
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Malal was stupid and should never, ever, ever be brought back.
You know how people like to cry that "Draigo is nonsensical and doesn't fit 40k!".
Malal doesn't fit anything. It's the kind of idea you hear two college students come up with at 3am after getting blazed and watching Adult Swim.
That is to say it was a terrible one.
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2011/09/28 05:13:34
Subject: Draigo..... Malaal in disguise?
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Daemonic Dreadnought
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NO
Malal was/is too good to be Draigo, anyway he was banished from the Warp, not imprisoned in it.
And the lesser God Malice is still too good to be Draigo
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Gods? There are no gods. Merely existences, obstacles to overcome.
"And what if I told you the Wolves tried to bring a Legion to heel once before? What if that Legion sent Russ and his dogs running, too ashamed to write down their defeat in Imperial archives?" - ADB |
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2011/09/28 06:08:09
Subject: Draigo..... Malaal in disguise?
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Mutated Chosen Chaos Marine
Sitting in yo' bath tub, poopin out shoggoths
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Chowderhead wrote:bombboy1252 wrote:No, I wouldn't think he is,
but Malaal is probably very happy with Draigo for trolling the warp
Malal doesn't exist. He got retconned out.
Yes he does....I BELIEVE he exists....so he does.
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2011/09/28 08:39:12
Subject: Draigo..... Malaal in disguise?
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Nurgle Chosen Marine on a Palanquin
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Malal's no longer canon, so no.
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2011/09/28 08:42:23
Subject: Draigo..... Malaal in disguise?
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The Sons of Malice is the closest we're ever going to get to Malal reappearing.
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2011/09/28 18:03:39
Subject: Re:Draigo..... Malaal in disguise?
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Devastating Dark Reaper
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Excuse the lack of chaos knowledge but who is malaal?
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2011/09/28 18:07:35
Subject: Re:Draigo..... Malaal in disguise?
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Daemonic Dreadnought
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Rocky1 wrote:Excuse the lack of chaos knowledge but who is malaal?
Here's info on Malal (NOT Malaal) More or less considered the God of Vengeance, Anarchy, Nihilism (iffy there), and Self/Mutual Destruction
http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Malal
http://whfb.lexicanum.com/wiki/Malal#.ToNhfeywXls
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Gods? There are no gods. Merely existences, obstacles to overcome.
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2011/09/28 18:13:24
Subject: Draigo..... Malaal in disguise?
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Malal wasn't anti chaos he was anti everything.
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2011/09/28 20:31:23
Subject: Re:Draigo..... Malaal in disguise?
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Devastating Dark Reaper
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Thanks a lot 
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2011/09/28 20:32:59
Subject: Re:Draigo..... Malaal in disguise?
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Daemonic Dreadnought
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Rocky1 wrote:
Thanks a lot
Between you and me, I'd like to see him back
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Gods? There are no gods. Merely existences, obstacles to overcome.
"And what if I told you the Wolves tried to bring a Legion to heel once before? What if that Legion sent Russ and his dogs running, too ashamed to write down their defeat in Imperial archives?" - ADB |
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2011/09/28 20:57:29
Subject: Re:Draigo..... Malaal in disguise?
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Devastating Dark Reaper
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Between you and me, I'd like to see him back
After reading up on him i'd be inclined to agree with you.He seems like the truest embodiment of the nature of chaos.Why is he not around any more?
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2011/09/28 21:13:30
Subject: Re:Draigo..... Malaal in disguise?
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Fixture of Dakka
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Because the emo kids that thought he was cool cut themselves too deeply to continue caring about him.
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"'players must agree how they are going to select their armies, and if any restrictions apply to the number and type of models they can use."
This is an actual rule in the actual rulebook. Quit whining about how you can imagine someone's army touching you in a bad place and play by the actual rules.
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When people ask, "What's the point in understanding everything?" they've just disqualified themselves from using questions and should disappear in a puff of paradox. But they don't understand and just continue existing, which are also their only two strategies for life. |
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2011/09/28 21:25:46
Subject: Draigo..... Malaal in disguise?
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Ancient Ultramarine Venerable Dreadnought
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Because the guy that invented it left GW, and took the rights to Malal with him.
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2011/09/28 21:28:06
Subject: Draigo..... Malaal in disguise?
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Would be cool in my opinion there should be more chaos gods in my opinion.
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2011/09/28 21:32:23
Subject: Draigo..... Malaal in disguise?
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Daemonic Dreadnought
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There's supposed to be plenty of lesser ones, they just don't get any attention, with maybe the sole exception of Malice via Sons of Malice.
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Gods? There are no gods. Merely existences, obstacles to overcome.
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2011/09/28 21:32:48
Subject: Draigo..... Malaal in disguise?
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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King Pariah wrote:There's supposed to be plenty of lesser ones, they just don't get any attention, with maybe the sole exception of Malice via Sons of Malice.
And the God of Thunder Thor. rofl.
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2011/09/28 21:33:41
Subject: Draigo..... Malaal in disguise?
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Mutated Chosen Chaos Marine
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It does say that there are other, weaker gods which some pray to. GW could make rules for a couple if they were so inclined.
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2011/09/28 21:54:48
Subject: Draigo..... Malaal in disguise?
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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I've always been a malal fan, but I can see why some people don't like the concept, as there are several glaring holes in it. However, nothing in 40k or wfb is airtight, and not only do I like the idea of an almost endless lesser pantheon below the big 4, I also like flaunting things from before my time, like malal, zoats, fmir, etc.
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