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I know that it's great that we have an old codex (unlike my poor Tau...), but an old codex it is. In your opinion, oh sages of Dakka, what will we see in the next Lizardmen codex due.... eventually?

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Well hopefuly they will also make a Lizardmen Armybook to do with it


But really I expect alot of what LM players use as crutches and beat sticks to go away. No extra dice to cast, no 6's for you, price bump for sallies.

 
   
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I do see a point bump in sallies. I see a good chance at something bigger than the carnosaur or stegadon such as the Coatl or maybe even a thunder lizard. I would really like the spawnings to come back for saurus.
   
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Bulgaria

Personal prediction:
Sallies get the mortar treatment (fynally).
Severe item cutbacks (just let me keep my burning blade please).
Stegs get either cheaper and weaker, or stay the same.
Return of the thunderlizard.
Maybe monstrous cav, everyone seems to be getting those lately.


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Plastic Slaans and Kroxigor and maybe more.

Vast removal of items like everyone else.

All the SCs will be changed and unlike most armies, may actually lose some (which no one uses anyway).

Definately some huge kit.

Some slight nerfing of Slaan abilities.

Skinks on motorcycles with rubber chickens.

   
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As a Wood Elf player, I would love to see a new Lizardman book before a new Wood Elf book. The current Lizards book is just too cheap and too good. Scar-Vets, Slann and Salamanders all need a massive points hike or a nerf.

They also need some sort of downside that isn't completely covered by simply taking Light magic :/

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tmarichards wrote:As a Wood Elf player, I would love to see a new Lizardman book before a new Wood Elf book.

Good luck with that, if i was you i'd just settle for keeping the army's hit and run playstyle.


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tmarichards wrote:As a Wood Elf player, I would love to see a new Lizardman book before a new Wood Elf book. The current Lizards book is just too cheap and too good. Scar-Vets, Slann and Salamanders all need a massive points hike or a nerf.

They also need some sort of downside that isn't completely covered by simply taking Light magic :/


Or...the WE book is crap?
Seriously, its like what, 10 years old? Of course you are having trouble.

Anyway,

Slaan stay the same
Sallies get nerfed/points increase to give those poor razors a chance
Fast Cav (Horned Ones, I think they are called)
A new monster
Saurus gets buffed
Plastic Terradons (please!)
CoC buffed to be in line with the heavy cav of other races
More special characters
Reduction in magic items. Sadly, the blade of realities will probably get cut.
More lores for the skinks (hopefully. I don't understand why they only have access to heavens. They should have access to beast as well, consider how they live in a forest)
A return of red crests.
Blessings (PLEASE! THOSE WERE AWESOME!)
TG get buffed. Compared to the elite infantry of other races, they are a bit lacklustre imo.

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Actually i've seen his reports he does ok but can't seem to counter scar-vets for some reason.


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Lizardmen armybook is relatively recent. About half the armies have older books and should get an update earlier.

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HoverBoy wrote:Actually i've seen his reports he does ok but can't seem to counter scar-vets for some reason.


I get them about half the time with Waywatchers. The other half, they ruin me :(

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I still feel 'competitive' lizards are far to point and click. More than any other army in WHFB

 
   
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Outflanking

I expect that lizards will see a great reduction in magic items, loss of free power dice, and Salies will be nerfed.

On the bright side, we will probably also see a thunderlizard (big monster on a Screaming bell base), some monstrous cavalry, and skink priests with more lores available.

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Crazy_Carnifex wrote:I expect that lizards will see a great reduction in magic items, loss of free power dice, and Salies will be nerfed.

On the bright side, we will probably also see a thunderlizard (big monster on a Screaming bell base), some monstrous cavalry, and skink priests with more lores available.


Kroxigor cavalry?
Oh I know! Have them ride stegasauri!

so far they have a model for

- A triceratops (stegadon)

-Allosaurus (carnosaur)

- Pterodactyl (terradon)

And have the skinks ride velociraptors. And make them feathered, for archeological accuracy.

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Yea we gotta get all the dinobots in eventually


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HoverBoy wrote:Yea we gotta get all the dinobots in eventually


What do beastwars have to do with anything?

Oh, I already have a new nickname for skink cavalry!

They shall be known as...chicken-lizard cavalry.

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Bulgaria

CthuluIsSpy wrote:
HoverBoy wrote:Yea we gotta get all the dinobots in eventually


What do beastwars have to do with anything?

Really, you haven't noticed anything odd about the names of all the special mounts in that book?

PS: Just for those without the book they're Grymloq, Zlaaq and Zwup.

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HoverBoy wrote:
CthuluIsSpy wrote:
HoverBoy wrote:Yea we gotta get all the dinobots in eventually


What do beastwars have to do with anything?

Really, you haven't noticed anything odd about the names of all the special mounts in that book?

PS: Just for those without the book they're Grymloq, Zlaaq and Zwup.


Lol really? I knew the Lizardmen SC names were bad puns, but I didn't know they went that far!

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CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Crazy_Carnifex wrote:I expect that lizards will see a great reduction in magic items, loss of free power dice, and Salies will be nerfed.

On the bright side, we will probably also see a thunderlizard (big monster on a Screaming bell base), some monstrous cavalry, and skink priests with more lores available.


Kroxigor cavalry?
Oh I know! Have them ride stegasauri!

so far they have a model for

- A triceratops (stegadon)

-Allosaurus (carnosaur)

- Pterodactyl (terradon)

And have the skinks ride velociraptors. And make them feathered, for archeological accuracy.


Unfortunately, not even Skinks are small enough to be ridden by velocirators...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velociraptor

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Revenent Reiko wrote:
CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Crazy_Carnifex wrote:I expect that lizards will see a great reduction in magic items, loss of free power dice, and Salies will be nerfed.

On the bright side, we will probably also see a thunderlizard (big monster on a Screaming bell base), some monstrous cavalry, and skink priests with more lores available.


Kroxigor cavalry?
Oh I know! Have them ride stegasauri!

so far they have a model for

- A triceratops (stegadon)

-Allosaurus (carnosaur)

- Pterodactyl (terradon)

And have the skinks ride velociraptors. And make them feathered, for archeological accuracy.


Unfortunately, not even Skinks are small enough to be ridden by velocirators...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velociraptor


I think you misunderstand. The Skinks are riding the velociraptors, not the other way way around
Anyway, that's not a problem. Just make the chicken-lizard bigger.

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Hahahaha Damn!! thats some typo for you!

but yes, i meant that they couldnt ride the velociraptors as they are only half a metre tall....i feel silly now...LOL

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I do wonder if GW will ever pay attention to Modern Dinosaur Science....


Scythe Lizards anyone?





In all seriousness I really hope pure Krox Units will become viable. I guess a problem is how to make them competitive without flat out making them Ogre Clones with Cold Blood

And on the topic of Velociraptors, why not the good ol Utahraptor? From what I can tell its pretty much the raptors you would see in Jurassic Park, +Feathers


 
   
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Na, they should keep the lizard dinos lizardy. I think that Cold ones already cover the raptors (sorta).

So let's see what stock dinos are left for use:

-Stegosaurus
-Ankylosaurus
-Pacecephylasaurus (Helmet-head guys)
-Sauropods
-Hadrosaurs (probably nowhere near fierce enough)

While there are definitely other dinos out there, these are probably the ones GW would stick to as "recognizable".


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What has been mentioned plus remove cupped hands.

 
   
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kenshin620 wrote:I do wonder if GW will ever pay attention to Modern Dinosaur Science....


Scythe Lizards anyone?


I wonder if kenshin has ever seen a table.


   
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Crazy_Carnifex wrote:Na, they should keep the lizard dinos lizardy. I think that Cold ones already cover the raptors (sorta).

So let's see what stock dinos are left for use:

-Stegosaurus
-Ankylosaurus
-Pacecephylasaurus (Helmet-head guys)
-Sauropods
-Hadrosaurs (probably nowhere near fierce enough)

While there are definitely other dinos out there, these are probably the ones GW would stick to as "recognizable".



I always thought that razordons were meant to be ankylosauri, just with spikes instead of clubs.
I could totally imagine a carnivorous version of the pacephylasaurus to serve as mounts for skinks.

Sauropods would make a excellent template for a arcanodon. Its totally what I imagined it to look like.

Hadrosaurs look too derpy, sadly :/


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kenshin620 wrote:I do wonder if GW will ever pay attention to Modern Dinosaur Science....


Scythe Lizards anyone?


I wonder if kenshin has ever seen a table.



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CthuluIsSpy wrote:

I always thought that razordons were meant to be ankylosauri, just with spikes instead of clubs.

.


Actually the cousins to Ankylosaurs are pretty much "Spiked Versions-Tail Clubs", they were called Nodosauridae or "Node Lizards"


Yes those giant Dinosaur encyclopedias are finally paying off!




 
   
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if they want 'recongnizable' dinosaurus why not use the good old t-rex as new monster

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Cuz it's a carnisaur already. Making a bigger one probably isn't going to happen, especially since it isn't hoodah-ready.

   
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I could see them totally redoing the Carnosaur. Making it bigger(maybe on the Arachnarok base) and loads more nasty.

Or they put in Thunderlizards.




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