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I posted this up over on the Fantasy board and didnt really get a good answere. One person posting on it stated he DESPISES 40K AND ITS COMMUNITY so he wasnt much help in the matter. But anyway here ya go.

How would the Imperium of Man Classify the Warhammer Planet (cannot think of the name they use for it). I think it would get lumped as a Daemon world and be subject to imediate EXTERMINATUS!! Lets face it, there is a Warp rift that is CONSTANTLY open on the Northern poll and it has a Moon that is made ENTIRELY of concentrated Magic (the Warp).

I always liked to think that the Fantasy planet DOES exist in the 40K world and that it is cut off from the rest of the Galaxy by a warpstorm of some sort. What would it be like if they had a Jetsons meets the Flintstones esque cross over? I vaguely remember being told that a few editions ago DAEMONS could have random 40K weapons as "GIFTS" or something like that.

Feral World with daemonic influences. After arrival of the Sisters Sabine (Sisters of Sigmar?) who would've paved the way for the Missionaries (either "Who you know as Sigmar is actually the Emperor we all serve!" or "Saint Sigmar was one of the Emperor's most valued champions!"), and the subsequent landing of Imperial forces, the IoM would probably engage in a planetwide campaign of genocide with assistance of the Inquisition.

Exterminatus would be another option, but the Inquisition might see value in researching peoples' apparent resistance against Chaos. Also, it stands to reason that the rift will remain regardless of whether the planet is populated or not, so you may as well garrison it and recruit the locals to help you. Kind of like with Cadia!

like you said it has a permanent warp rift and the planets also flooded with xenos so would probably be lables for imediate exterminus.

however if i radicaly inclined inquisitor was the one to find it they might conduct reserch on why the planet hasn't yet been overrun, and decide it would e a good recruiting world

Lynata wrote:Feral World with daemonic influences.

Er, I think you mean feudal.

Definitely feudal, not feral. In truth, the two game universes have by this point diverged so wildly in dramatic style and tone that their only real commonalities are a few setting elements (Chaos, the Slann).

Manchu wrote:

Lynata wrote:Feral World with daemonic influences.

Er, I think you mean feudal.

Didn't they lump in Feudal with Feral in the 6E rulebook, merging it into a single category?

Lynata wrote:

Manchu wrote:

Lynata wrote:Feral World with daemonic influences.

Er, I think you mean feudal.

Didn't they lump in Feudal with Feral in the 6E rulebook, merging it into a single category?

Feurdal?

Lynata wrote:Didn't they lump in Feudal with Feral in the 6E rulebook, merging it into a single category?

I don't know, I don't have a copy of 6E. But surely this very example shows how that would make no sense.

Manchu wrote:But surely this very example shows how that would make no sense.

Well, the Norscans are arguably more feral than feudal for one. The Empire isn't the only civilization down there. And considering that an Imperial World can mean anything from basic industrialization to high-tech science, the differences between feral and feudal are not that much more significant. It all depends on the scale we'd be judging something on, I think.

On that note I think they also removed the Agri-World classification. Perhaps they still exist, but just as a sub-type of fewer but more general classes? I'd have to take another look to be sure.

Feudal level technology. Pervasive and widespread Xenos presence. Localized warp storms at both polar regions as well as invasive daemonic infestation. If any of the Imperium's previous examples hold true, the planet would likely be virus bombed from orbit, declared a dead world and labelled off limits on penalty of death.

The Empire being the only population likely to accept the Imperial Cult amongst a world overrun with demons and alien species is too insignificant a reason for the Imperium to waste the resources on attempting to make the world a viable Imperial Colony.

Blimey, sounds like they dropped nearly all of the classifications. All just 'Worlds' now?

Lynata wrote:The Empire isn't the only civilization down there.

Come on, Lynata. Obviously you would judge from the highest level of socio-technological development.


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Brother Heinrich wrote:Pervasive and widespread Xenos presence.

This really shows how divergent the two worlds are. When I read this, I was like "what xenos?" *blink* "ooooooh ..."

Astartes would spearhear straight into their leaders stronghold and kill sigmar ow whatever, while the ig battled the little magicians or what have ya, afterwards iterators would make the people believe that sigmar = the big e

I like to think that WHFB takes place far far into the future of 40k on Terra. Not 100% sure what happened but I theoize the Old Ones poped back up in some epic conflict that reached all the way back to Terra involving almost every race in the galaxy at the time. SOme strange Battle Royal involving Humans, Orks, Elder, and Chaos that ultimately ended with a massive catacylism and a warp storm cutting off the planet for perhaps thousands of years. The planet reset itself and the trapped races rebuilt from the ground up into what we know today as WHFB.

Only loose end is the Lizardmen, who I guess where dropped off by the Old Ones after the catacylism to safegaurd this important world from the clutches of choas that still inhabited it during the warp storm.

My only evidence for my theory is the maps of the WHFB world look alot like earth if the continents drifted around for tens of thousands of years. Though my knowledge of such things is quite limited and I'm really just spitballing here, lol.

Brother Thomas wrote:...kill sigmar ow whatever, while the ig battled the little magicians or what have ya...

Not super up on the fantasy fluff, then?

In the Fantasy sub-forum, some guy is probably talking about how his Bretonnians would feth up that Space Emperor guy.

Manchu wrote:In the Fantasy sub-forum, some guy is probably talking about how his Bretonnians would feth up that Space Emperor guy.

Had to check. Sadly not the case.

kowbasher wrote:I like to think that WHFB takes place far far into the future of 40k on Terra. Not 100% sure what happened but I theoize the Old Ones poped back up in some epic conflict that reached all the way back to Terra involving almost every race in the galaxy at the time. SOme strange Battle Royal involving Humans, Orks, Elder, and Chaos that ultimately ended with a massive catacylism and a warp storm cutting off the planet for perhaps thousands of years. The planet reset itself and the trapped races rebuilt from the ground up into what we know today as WHFB.

Only loose end is the Lizardmen, who I guess where dropped off by the Old Ones after the catacylism to safegaurd this important world from the clutches of choas that still inhabited it during the warp storm.

My only evidence for my theory is the maps of the WHFB world look alot like earth if the continents drifted around for tens of thousands of years. Though my knowledge of such things is quite limited and I'm really just spitballing here, lol.

That was the craziest and most far-fetched theory I've ever seen on Dakka, and as we all know, that is seriously saying something. You just made up an entire narrative from scratch. That said, I like it xD Totally possible. I have always thought of WHFB as a planet cut off from the Imperium in WH40K, but your theory is definitely fresh. I think the Old Ones were wiped out by the C'Tan and Necrons though :/

Isn't it in the eye of terror?
At best they'd kill all but the Empire/Bretonians then force convert the survivors and repopulate.
I doubt they'd virus bomb the place since all the magical stuff would be well worth studying.

kowbasher wrote:the Old Ones poped back up

Your turn of phrase here reminded me of Aun'Va.

And then I thought: what if the Tau are the Old Ones, re-evolving into their former glory?

>mindblown<

Manchu wrote:

kowbasher wrote:the Old Ones poped back up

Your turn of phrase here reminded me of Aun'Va.

And then I thought: what if the Tau are the Old Ones, re-evolving into their former glory?

>mindblown<

Weren't The Old Ones physcicly powerful?

Brother Thomas wrote:Astartes would spearhear straight into their leaders stronghold and kill sigmar ow whatever, while the ig battled the little magicians or what have ya, afterwards iterators would make the people believe that sigmar = the big e

Troll or serious?

Testify wrote:Weren't The Old Ones physcicly powerful?

I would imagine that, like humanity, this wasn't always the case.

hellspawn22 wrote:

kowbasher wrote:I like to think that WHFB takes place far far into the future of 40k on Terra. Not 100% sure what happened but I theoize the Old Ones poped back up in some epic conflict that reached all the way back to Terra involving almost every race in the galaxy at the time. SOme strange Battle Royal involving Humans, Orks, Elder, and Chaos that ultimately ended with a massive catacylism and a warp storm cutting off the planet for perhaps thousands of years. The planet reset itself and the trapped races rebuilt from the ground up into what we know today as WHFB.

Only loose end is the Lizardmen, who I guess where dropped off by the Old Ones after the catacylism to safegaurd this important world from the clutches of choas that still inhabited it during the warp storm.

My only evidence for my theory is the maps of the WHFB world look alot like earth if the continents drifted around for tens of thousands of years. Though my knowledge of such things is quite limited and I'm really just spitballing here, lol.

That was the craziest and most far-fetched theory I've ever seen on Dakka, and as we all know, that is seriously saying something. You just made up an entire narrative from scratch. That said, I like it xD Totally possible. I have always thought of WHFB as a planet cut off from the Imperium in WH40K, but your theory is definitely fresh. I think the Old Ones were wiped out by the C'Tan and Necrons though :/

lol thanks! It's really just a fun thought excercise and I'm sure the folks far more knowledgable with the fluff and narrative of both games could probably quote something and completely unravel the entire idea.

As for the Old Ones being completely gone, that may be true, though the only ones that would have an actual record of that would be Necrons (whose minds and histories have been lost in the most part to countess years of statis) and their C'tan Shards who are just a shadow of themselves. I wouldn't think it would be that farfetched to beleive that a few of the Old Ones still survive in some sense somewhere in this galaxy or even another; simply biding their time to make their move. Heck it was just mentioned here that the Tau might be the latest of the Old One's seed races, and it would be awesome to think that the Old Ones would be something like a galactic Illuminati.

As for my WHFB Terra == 100k Terra theory, does anyone know where exactly on Terra the Golden Throne is seated? Just curious, beacuse I know there are rumors that an ancient webway portal stand beneath it, and perhaps it's collasp could be the reason for the choas gate?

The Throne is at the heart of the Palace, which is on top of the Himalayans.

I'm sure it was stated a long time ago that the WHF world is in the eye of terror...

Testify wrote:I'm sure it was stated a long time ago that the WHF world is in the eye of terror...

Ah well there we go.

Unless the Eye of Terror super expanded and has consumed a greater part of the galaxy!!!!

Ok...I'm done with the nut ball ideas, lol.

htj wrote:

Brother Thomas wrote:...kill sigmar ow whatever, while the ig battled the little magicians or what have ya...

Not super up on the fantasy fluff, then?

Lmao, No. 40k is my calling, not dungeons and dragons warhammer style

Brother Thomas wrote:not dungeons and dragons warhammer style

Wow, you are way off. You know WHFB is older than 40k, right? 40k is WHFB Star Wars style.

ok relax, i was attempting to make a joke.... Forgot i was on a website with nerds who scream heresy about board games xD. JK, Love you manchu