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Just as the question says...with the following conditions.

1) You can choose which age you will be, from which point onwards you will not age.
2) You don't get sick.
3) You cannot die. AT ALL. Even if your body is destroyed, your energy will reform and restore your body to normal condition.
4) You will have limited ability to manipulate probability relative to yourself so long as do not negate your immortality.
5) You can choose to make one other person immortal, just one.
6) Whether you mate with an immortal or not, your children will be mortal.
7) Even if the universe dies, you will survive (and with your limited probability alteration, you could make your own pocket universe).

I accept immortality...will you?

mattyrm wrote:Unquestionably.

I already feel concerned about losing my strength and Im only 32 but Im a little slower than I was at 22. The idea of being frail and weak frightens me, so If I would stay at 25 for my whole life, I would jump at the chance, and feth the consequences.

As I said, even if you're 92, and you wish to be immortal with the body of an 18 year old, so be it. Me, I'm 19, and I wish to be immortal with a body of a 28 year old male at peak physical condition.

Squigsquasher wrote:Yes yes yes. Oh, the havoc I could wreak...

You do realize you can alter only the probabilities of those possibilities that are connected to you, right? If an event has no connection to you, your powers will not function.

SilverMK2 wrote:You may go insane after a while.

But then again, sanity is for the weak...

Not to mention after a couple of million years you may get it together again and live for many billion more years quite happily until the universe ends and you can then make your own.

What was the guy's name...ah yes. Doctor Paradox...he went insane for a million years, got bored, learned all he could and became an instinctive time traveler. Yeah, you would probably gain more abilities apart from the regular Human abilities and probability alteration you started out with.


BTW, for those people who won't accept because you fear the loss of your loved ones, keep in mind that while you cannot make all of them immortal, you can make one other person immortal. So you get immortality and eternal love. Just perfect...

Oh, and I forgot to add this...you can't negate free will. Sorry.

n0t_u wrote:But you can suppress it probably if you wanted. Make them think they chose what they wanted to choose when in fact it was set up to make them choose what you wanted them to the entire time; giving the illusion of free will.

As for sacrifices, well I guess you could trick it by going for scum only.

True, while you can't overcome your limitations directly, you can go around them and surpass them (some of it, anyway) indirectly.

To make this more interesting, what would be your pocket universe look like?

Mine would be a northern land, where snowy mountains reach upwards towards the hopeful heavens, where grass and flowers bloom in spring, clear nights with brilliant stars singing of eternity at summer, rich harvests at autumn, and joyful festivities at winter. Elves and Men live in peace in a pre-Industrial state, and I can wander the world as I see fit and just enjoy myself without any of the worries that preoccupy our modern world.

SilverMK2 wrote:

Tadashi wrote:To make this more interesting, what would be your pocket universe look like?

Given that it is likely to be many billion years in the future, I have no idea what this universe would look like - by then I assume I would be a very different being to that which I am now.

Ha! We walk with the form of puny Humans, but those with talents and sensitivities can sense the aura of power around us. We will be like the Great Old Ones of H.P. Lovecraft, and worlds tremble at our touch - but if I'm not wreaking havok amongst the stars, I will most likely be sleeping the days away or just enjoying myself in the Northern Lands.

AustonT wrote:If I could be immortal in the world of Milo Morai I would absolutely do it.

Then make a pocket universe like it.

Jihadin wrote:

know. But I'd be immortal. I could take on the army. I could rule the world.

Your not protected from pain. Physical and emotional. Being the sadistic soldier I am..well to some I'm called "Uncle Sargie Wilkie...if we know your immortal and you decide to take on the army. We're going to hear you scream like a Primarch when you take multiple rounds to the Jimmy

Until probability alteration turns the entire army into a pile of corpses...like say, I want the probability that the army is alive is zero - all of you just fall dead in an instant.

SilverMK2 wrote:

KingCracker wrote:Now are we talking nothing can kill you immortal? Or you just live forever until something kills you?

If something kills you you kind of rematerialise again later on I think... (if your body is completely destroyed anyway).

If you're injured, just manipulate probability and reverse the damage.

SilverMK2 wrote:

Bromsy wrote:I think if I could only pick one person, I would find someone to be my nemesis. Way more interesting than eternal love.

An eternal love will probably eventually become a nemesis. Then as the millions or billions of years wear on an indifference will probably set in as you just ignore each other and go on about your own things in different parts of the universe.

Not with a woman with her characteristics...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belldandy

rubiksnoob wrote:Stereotypical nerd answer?
Well, duh.

Real-world answer?
Nah. I've got people I care about, and I wouldn't want to see them grow old and die while I remained the same age indefinitely. I'd prefer to do things, or create things for which I'll be remembered after I'm gone. That's immortality enough for me.

Dead is boring, ordinary and Human - I'd rather surpass Humanity and become something more than remain an ordinary Human and a mere plaything of the universe...and anyway, I already tell myself "Only Humans and other mortals attach any value to the passing of time." While immortality to extent I've described is impossible (for now), there already exists several theoretical methods to achieve immortality, which would probably become feasible in the next couple of decades.

Formosa wrote:never having to eat or breath... hell yeah, i would explore ocean floor first and then after a few thousand years launch my ass into space... you know go for a wander

Oh yeah...well, you don't need to eat, drink, sleep, breath, or something like those, but you still can. And yes, you should be able to walk on the ocean floor if you wanted to (probability alteration - me, I'm going to explore the surface of the sun ).

Jihadin wrote:I'm just going to go for Ascendent. Fin Anubis and beathim with my Zues stick

Anubis as in System Lord Anubis?

Amaya wrote:Immortality as an 18-28 year old would be good enough. Manipulating space and time and outliving the universe is excessive.

Dying with the universe disqualifies you from being immortal, since immortals are supposed to be immune from death. COMPLETELY.

Kovnik Obama wrote:Meh, I'd finally have my quiet time.

Honestly, tho, if you want to make this an interesting question, you have to set a disadvantage to it.

The question, ''Would you like to be God?'' is a fairly easy one to answer.

There are disadvantages:

1) You can only make one person immortal, just one.
2) Regardless of whether the mother/father of your children is immortal or mortal, the children will be mortal.

And you are not obliged to take responsibility for your powers...you can choose to be a god and take responsibility, or be like the Great Old Ones of H.P. Lovecraft and use your powers for your own ends.

DIDM wrote:

...get a vasectomy.

Whatever for?

BTW, immortal women don't get menopause...probability alteration, remember? Assuming, of course, they remember to use it.

rubiksnoob wrote:

And by the way, you are both human and mortal, and will never be anything more, so make the most of it! Being one of us mortals is a lot more fun once you stop having wet dreams about being the immortal Lord of Time and Space.

That's BS...its kinda saying I shouldn't even dream or hope to be more than I am. Maybe all science students should just drop and be factory workers, because, hey, we're just Human, we'll never amount to anything more, so what's the point of even trying to get better? If that's the case, why don't we just go back to the Stone Age while we're at it?

I really hate fatalists and determinists...things like pre-determined fate, or "You're just a ______ so stop dreaming of becoming more." is either used by those too cowardly to take control of their fates, or those afraid of the dreams of other people because they cannot handle the idea of change.

Mannahnin wrote:There are attainable dreams, and unattainable dreams.

The only thing that is impossible...is impossible. Once they said the world was flat...Magellan took the risk and proved them wrong. They said Galileo was wrong about planets orbiting the sun and moons orbiting Jupiter...now we know he is right. There are means to achieve biological immortality in theory...even if it isn't to the extent in this thread, it is there. I choose to follow that dream and seek to make it real...its my choice, not yours, not any fatalist, only mine. And choice is the only true freedom in this world.

Depends on your mindset...me, I'm alive and eternally young, have all the time in the universe and more to learn about literally EVERYTHING, I have a regenerating factor (and more, thanks to probability alteration), and maybe even eternal love (well, not a given, but its a possibility). On those notes, living forever is AWESOME.

Glorioski wrote:My idea of hell is an eternal wait for something which never comes. Once you've done everything there is to do then that's where you would find yourself, I don't care how many films Peter Jackson can squeeze out of the Silmarilion.

I would like to watch a film about Akallabeth rather than the Silmarillion. Even if it was caused by Sauron's deception and ultimately led to Numenor's fall, I feel shivers just imagining the Great Armament - the mightiest army to ever walk the Earth since the fall of Angband - march out of the sea onto the Undying Lands. The Elves fled rather than confront the army of Ar-Pharazon the Golden, mightiest king to ever walk the Earth - who is the true power, Elves or Men?

Tadashi wrote:Once they said the world was flat...Magellan took the risk and proved them wrong.

That's a myth. Only morons believed that the world was flat in the time of Magellan or Collumbus before him.

Glorioski wrote:

Tadashi wrote:Once they said the world was flat...Magellan took the risk and proved them wrong.

That's a myth. Only morons believed that the world was flat in the time of Magellan or Collumbus before him.

True...but they also said Galileo was wrong...just because people condemn biological immortality and transhumanism now, doesn't mean they always will.

I wasn't disagreeing with your point I just wanted to correct your example.

I see...apologies for any offense.

KingCracker wrote:


Thats very true. I honestly dont see the US lasting in its current state, for too much longer. It has felt like its been turning into a gak pile really bad lately

Empires and nations rise and fall, be it sooner or later, and America is no exception.

rubiksnoob wrote:I am willing to wager that eternal ANYTHING would in the end be a bit of a bum deal.

Only if you view it negatively.

purplefood wrote:

Tadashi wrote:

rubiksnoob wrote:I am willing to wager that eternal ANYTHING would in the end be a bit of a bum deal.

Only if you view it negatively.

Eternal strawberries...

I have absolutely no idea what that means.

As I said, only if you look at it negatively.

rubiksnoob wrote:

Tadashi wrote:As I said, only if you look at it negatively.

Well, yeah. Anything is negative if you look at it negatively.

Then be positive! Look on the bright side, you have all the time in the universe (and more) to do everything you could ever want. In a couple of centuries, you probably won't be Human per se anymore, and the passing of the years will be as nothing.

rubiksnoob wrote:

Tadashi wrote:

rubiksnoob wrote:

Tadashi wrote:As I said, only if you look at it negatively.

Well, yeah. Anything is negative if you look at it negatively.

Then be positive! Look on the bright side, you have all the time in the universe (and more) to do everything you could ever want. In a couple of centuries, you probably won't be Human per se anymore, and the passing of the years will be as nothing.

I am all about positivity, make no mistake. But, failing to temper your positivity with reality is just as much of a misstep as being negative all the time. Thusly, I feel like it is perfectly reasonable to say that eternal strawberries (or eternal anything else) would lose its appeal after a while. You know, too much of a good thing and all that?

Then don't obsess over it. After a few centuries, you're bound to look for a new gig.

I'll sleep for a thousand years. Then I'll make a planet of my own...create my own life.

Mannahnin wrote:Tadashi, I seriously recommend the same book for the third time. You will really dig it. Lazerus Long doesn't get super powers on top of his (apparently) unending longevity, but Heinlein does a great job discussing and describing the kind of ennui that can ensue, the impact on relationships and love, and the ways a person could potentially keep life fresh and exciting despite it all.

Heinlein isn't exactly the easing writer to find here...so far, I only have Methuselah's Children, and in second-hand form.

rubiksnoob wrote:

Tadashi wrote:I'll sleep for a thousand years. Then I'll make a planet of my own...create my own life.

Mhm. And then?

I will watch over them...what else is a god supposed to do?

rubiksnoob wrote:

Tadashi wrote:

rubiksnoob wrote:

Tadashi wrote:I'll sleep for a thousand years. Then I'll make a planet of my own...create my own life.

Mhm. And then?

I will watch over them...what else is a god supposed to do?

And then?


See what I'm getting at?

I'll do it over and over again...the universe is vast. The possibilities are endless.

Sounds a lot like "Know your place and just accept it." Sorry, but that sounds a lot like what the Last Man would do instead of what the Superman would do.

Meh...I'll take care of post-Human problems when the time comes.