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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/27 21:40:19
Subject: Article on GW in Financial Times
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Angry Blood Angel Assault marine
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/27 21:47:08
Subject: Article on GW in Financial Times
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I need to register in order to even read an article? No thanks...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/27 22:15:52
Subject: Article on GW in Financial Times
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
Reading, England
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Maybe a copy and paste?
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Bruins fan till the end.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/27 22:23:54
Subject: Re:Article on GW in Financial Times
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[SWAP SHOP MOD]
Killer Klaivex
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In a gaming market dominated by online platforms and video consoles, Games Workshop, the maker and retailer of table-top model war games, appears to be off in a world of its own.
Some 18 months ago, the City raised questions about Games Workshop’s long-term viability after difficult trading conditions forced it to issue a profit warning.
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But since then, Games Workshop’s focus on its niche business – one that sends its customers into the fantasy world of epic battles between armies of orks, elves, ogres and wizards – has helped it boost 2011 revenues 7 per cent year on year to £131m.
Although that figure is dwarfed by a UK video gaming market worth £4.7bn, it is sufficient to keep the group expanding internationally, aided by moves to replace unprofitable shopping centre stores with smaller, one-man outlets.
Since its profit warning in January 2011, Games Workshop shares are up about 80 per cent, compared with a relatively flat FTSE small-cap index. Last month the company reported full-year pre-tax profits of £19.5m, up 27 per cent, and raised its full-year dividend 40 per cent year on year.
While most companies would be shouting such figures from the rooftops, Games Workshop’s management prefer to let the numbers speak for themselves, and turned down four requests to speak to the Financial Times.
Uncharacteristically for a London-listed company, management do not make a habit of visiting the capital to chat to analysts and investors, preferring instead to host them at the company’s castle-themed headquarters in Nottingham.
“They decided that they were not going to come to London to see institutions or brokers. It became a bit too tricky,” says Jo Reedman, an analyst at Singer Capital Markets who used to cover Games Workshop when it acted as house broker.
According to a manager at one of Games Workshop’s London branches – who epitomised the company’s publicity-shyness by asking to remain nameless – the secret of the group’s success is customer interaction.
Unlike many video games that can be played immediately and just as quickly forgotten, Games Workshop sells a hobby that is both time-consuming and incorporates a sense of achievement.
“The idea is to make it all yourself – to put in the bases and glue [the figurines] together and paint them,” the store manager says.
For about £100, customers can buy the materials required to create their own fantasy world of demons, orks, and a multitude of other characters in its various dystopian sci-fi and fantasy universes.
My customer range is from 12 to 80 years old, from all walks of life. It’s a very mixed market
- London store manager
Its top selling product, Warhammer 40,000, has been on sale since 1987, and the company regularly releases books, expansion packs and additional materials to keep players coming back into its chain of 340-plus hobby centres worldwide.
According to the store manager, part of the group’s success in a highly competitive games market is not to compete directly with online and video gaming.
“A lot of our customers will do some online gaming,” says the manager. “Warhammer is more sociable than online or console gaming because you have to invest your time and effort in it and then play it with someone else.”
In Games Workshop’s 2012 annual report, Tom Kirby, chairman, wrote that the release of electronic games consoles such as the Nintendo Wii and Xbox 360 have had a negligible impact on the group’s sales.
“Each of these devices supposedly heralded the end for our antiquated miniatures – oh ye of little faith,” he wrote.
In spite of the 2011 profit warning, Games Workshop has proved to be relatively immune to the economic downturn, as the teenagers who make up the bulk of the company’s customer base tend to fund their purchases through pocket money and part-time jobs.
“My customer range is from 12 to 80 years old, from all walks of life. It’s a very mixed market,” says the manager, adding that in spite of the recession “people can always find a bit of money for their favourite hobbies”.
Games Workshop also holds a licensing agreement with New Line Cinema, tapping into the popularity of Sir Peter Jackson’s The Lord of the Rings trilogy by releasing a table-top game based on the films. It hopes to replicate that success later this year on the release of The Hobbit.
“The company has a strong line-up of product launches and this should ensure good progress. The rating looks attractive, particularly given the dividend yield of about 8 per cent,” says Charles Hall, analyst at house broker Peel Hunt.
“When we say that we are a long-term business we mean it,” Mr Kirby said in the annual report. “We cannot guarantee to be around in 50 years’ time, but we certainly intend to be.”
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/27 22:58:33
Subject: Article on GW in Financial Times
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Screaming Shining Spear
Central Coast, California USA
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It's more for the person not familiar with GW. Doesn't really say anything or anything new though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/27 23:07:40
Subject: Article on GW in Financial Times
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
Australia
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I like the part where they say that for 100 pounds you can create your own fantasy world...of a single tank...or maybe two squads of marines....damn Australian prices...
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4th company
The Screaming Beagles of Helicia V
Hive Fleet Jumanji
I'll die before I surrender Tim! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/27 23:30:15
Subject: Article on GW in Financial Times
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
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Why are they so shy though?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/27 23:31:14
Subject: Article on GW in Financial Times
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Big Fat Gospel of Menoth
The other side of the internet
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I like how it only mentions the recent nominal 7% increase, not the real revenue changes over the past few years... Automatically Appended Next Post:
Because they're blushing virgins?
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Be sure to use logic! Avoid fallacies whenever possible.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/27 23:40:57
Subject: Article on GW in Financial Times
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Because they play Warhammer.
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Excerpt from "Seeress of Kell", Book Five of The Malloreon series by David Eddings.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/27 23:47:29
Subject: Article on GW in Financial Times
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Dakka Veteran
Eye of Terra.
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Because the Financial times interviewer was a GIRL.... with BOOBS.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/27 23:49:52
Subject: Article on GW in Financial Times
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Even one without would likely scare them off.
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Mandorallen turned back toward the insolently sneering baron. 'My Lord,' The great knight said distantly, 'I find thy face apelike and thy form misshapen. Thy beard, moreover, is an offence against decency, resembling more closely the scabrous fur which doth decorate the hinder portion of a mongrel dog than a proper adornment for a human face. Is it possibly that thy mother, seized by some wild lechery, did dally at some time past with a randy goat?' - Mimbrate Knight Protector Mandorallen.
Excerpt from "Seeress of Kell", Book Five of The Malloreon series by David Eddings.
My deviantART Profile - Pay No Attention To The Man Behind The Madness
"You need not fear us, unless you are a dark heart, a vile one who preys on the innocent; I promise, you can’t hide forever in the empty darkness, for we will hunt you down like the animals you are, and pull you into the very bowels of hell." Iron - Within Temptation |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/27 23:51:23
Subject: Re:Article on GW in Financial Times
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Slaanesh Chosen Marine Riding a Fiend
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According to a manager at one of Games Workshop’s London branches – who epitomised the company’s publicity-shyness by asking to remain nameless – the secret of the group’s success is customer interaction.
Must be hard to interact with customers when you are so busy being SHY.
I also like the part where they claim that consoles have had little to no effect on their sales.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/27 23:53:25
Subject: Re:Article on GW in Financial Times
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Bane Thrall
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Noisy_Marine wrote:According to a manager at one of Games Workshop’s London branches – who epitomised the company’s publicity-shyness by asking to remain nameless – the secret of the group’s success is customer interaction.
Must be hard to interact with customers when you are so busy being SHY.
I also like the part where they claim that consoles have had little to no effect on their sales.
Employees perform all transactions while inside a confession booth-like structure
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GW Rules Interpretation Syndrom. GWRIS. Causes people to second guess a rule in a book because that's what they would have had to do in a GW system.
SilverMK2 wrote:"Well, I have epilepsy and was holding a knife when I had a seizure... I couldn't help it! I was just trying to chop the vegetables for dinner!" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/28 02:17:34
Subject: Article on GW in Financial Times
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I thought the 100 pound comment was off too. Don't these journalist even research anything anymore. You know the actual facts instead of slapping some words around.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/28 02:24:21
Subject: Article on GW in Financial Times
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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This just in....Jesus would vote for Mitt Romney! And Obama is evil incarnate.
You definitely do not want to watch American news channels...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/28 02:30:25
Subject: Article on GW in Financial Times
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I actually don't. I'm sick of h whole mess. Just once I'd like to vote for somebody I actually want in rather than play damage control and pick the lesser of two evils.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/28 05:05:07
Subject: Re:Article on GW in Financial Times
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Xeno-Hating Inquisitorial Excruciator
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Sir Peter Jackson???? When was he knighted???
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40K RTT W/D/L 63/3/29
1 overall, 12 Best Sportsman, 3 Best Army, 5 Best Painting,1 Best Black Templars.
WFB RTT 0/0/6
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/28 06:07:45
Subject: Re:Article on GW in Financial Times
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/28 06:48:05
Subject: Article on GW in Financial Times
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Wrathful Warlord Titan Commander
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This is pretty much the same article that gets rolled out whenever GW comes up in one publication or another.
Wouldn't mind some real insight for once but that might require speaking to someone at HQ rather than a store manager.
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How do you promote your Hobby? - Legoburner "I run some crappy wargaming website " |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/28 07:22:06
Subject: Re:Article on GW in Financial Times
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Utilizing Careful Highlighting
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The secret is customer interaction? Really? They don't even acknowledge their customers on the internet exists.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/28 10:23:38
Subject: Re:Article on GW in Financial Times
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Angry Blood Angel Assault marine
UK
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wowsmash wrote:I thought the 100 pound comment was off too. Don't these journalist even research anything anymore. You know the actual facts instead of slapping some words around.
It's £100 - £115 for what they sell as a starter bundle...
heartserenade wrote:The secret is customer interaction? Really? They don't even acknowledge their customers on the internet exists.
They have a website and a blog and FB pages and they can sell you stuff online. What else is necessary..?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/28 10:52:33
Subject: Re:Article on GW in Financial Times
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Utilizing Careful Highlighting
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I'm really not sure if you're serious or sarcastic.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/28 11:33:16
Subject: Re:Article on GW in Financial Times
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Lorizael wrote: wowsmash wrote:I thought the 100 pound comment was off too. Don't these journalist even research anything anymore. You know the actual facts instead of slapping some words around.
It's £100 - £115 for what they sell as a starter bundle...
heartserenade wrote:The secret is customer interaction? Really? They don't even acknowledge their customers on the internet exists.
They have a website and a blog and FB pages and they can sell you stuff online. What else is necessary..?
That's not the way he makes it sound though. He makes it sound like you can buy a whole army for 100 and thats not even close.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/28 12:10:26
Subject: Re:Article on GW in Financial Times
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Shas'o Commanding the Hunter Kadre
Missouri
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So...£100 is equal to about $800, right?
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Desubot wrote:Why isnt Slut Wars: The Sexpocalypse a real game dammit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/28 12:31:31
Subject: Re:Article on GW in Financial Times
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Blood Angel Chapter Master with Wings
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For about £100, customers can buy the materials required to create their own fantasy world of demons, orks, and a multitude of other characters in its various dystopian sci-fi and fantasy universes
LOL
Are they seriously going to pretend 100 quid will do more than get you 1 painted unit if you are starting from nothing? Sigh...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/28 13:26:45
Subject: Article on GW in Financial Times
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Wrathful Warlord Titan Commander
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Sorry for playing devils advocate: DV + a paint set + a random boxset, all for about £100.
Let's not pretend that it was some wild boast. Not a 2000 point tournament army true, but enough stuff to keep a green hobbiest amused for quite some time.
Threads might be more interesting without nitpicking everything to the nth degree fellers.
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How do you promote your Hobby? - Legoburner "I run some crappy wargaming website " |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/28 13:33:15
Subject: Re:Article on GW in Financial Times
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Lady of the Lake
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MajorTom11 wrote:For about £100, customers can buy the materials required to create their own fantasy world of demons, orks, and a multitude of other characters in its various dystopian sci-fi and fantasy universes
LOL
Are they seriously going to pretend 100 quid will do more than get you 1 painted unit if you are starting from nothing? Sigh...
If you're marines sure. Probably get you two and a "character" to lead them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/28 16:06:18
Subject: Article on GW in Financial Times
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Angry Blood Angel Assault marine
UK
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£100 will get you Dark Vengeance / IoB / MoM plus the paint/glue/tool set. That is in fact everything you need to be involved in the hobby.
Remember that the hobby community is much larger and more varied than you'll ever see- some people play with starter set for years and choose never to expand further.
@heartserenade; I was being serious.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/28 16:39:31
Subject: Re:Article on GW in Financial Times
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Utilizing Careful Highlighting
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Because a website, a blog, an FB page selling your stuff online is the only way to interact with customers online. And yes, I was being sarcastic.
Let's compare them to a company that, while really far from perfect, shows more customer interaction than GW: Wizards of the Coast. They have their own forums and they listen to what their customers say, and even though they do not agree with them a lot of times they would at least acknowledge it.
GW does nothing of the sort, and it's a PR disaster. Unannounced price increases, the whole finecast fiasco, the cry of customers for a more balanced ruleset or a codex update: every problem has not been addressed or even a "Hey guys, I'm sorry but we need to increase our prices" "Sorry about a huge amount of miscasts on Finecast, we'll work on that to give you the miniatures you deserve" or even a "Hey, these are the teasers of what we're releasing for the months to come!". Nope. Nada.
I've been in the WotC forums for a long while too and while I saw criticisms, it wasn't this bad. Game designers would address some problems in their official blogs and would explain to their customers why they didn't go in that direction (Mark Rosewater of M:tG does this).
GW might have a good customer service, but they're kinda bad at Public Relations. The internet is not just something you use to sell your stuff online. It's a way to interact with your fanbase and build your reputation in. Not listening or acknowledging or even communicating with your fanbase is not good customer interaction. How do they communicate with their customers? GW shops? Just by reading the forums a lot of people are turned off by GW shops because of staff horror stories, which of course does not apply to all but it still taints GW's image in customer interaction.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/28 16:55:21
Subject: Re:Article on GW in Financial Times
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Can someone email this journalist and tell him that he's been slightly misled? For a start, did he not realise that the store manager would probably have been sacked if he'd been identified? As a few have raised already; what customer interaction does the article refer to? Surely not the photocopied bumpf that I've received from Jervis(you know the one, 'I always like to know what's happening in the melting pot of the hobby!')on numerous occasions?
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