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So basically some people made a giant 3D printing system for building houses of any desired configuration without the cost and safety hazards of the current construction industry.

The houses include steel reinforced concrete walls, full plumbing, and full electronics wiring and networking. All done by a rather straightforward robot, and from bare foundation to finished product in 20 hours.

The application potential for low cost, high quality housing across the globe is staggering. Essentially the cost of the home comes down to renting the machine, buying whichever house format file you like, and the materials needed.

Very cool!

That's cool...
Construction industry won't like it though...

This is absolutely amazing.

Would be a Great Idea for disaster relief housing, get some of those in and build some big buildings like dorms for people while you rebuild.

But as a replacement for building normal houses, seeing that the construction industry employs over 2 million people in the UK.

A step forward in construction. A step forward to making HIVE CITIES --->insert evil laughter here<---

Hooray for bland identical neighbourhoods springing up.

You can paint a favela bright colours, but it won't hide the paupers within.

 Henners91 wrote:
Hooray for bland identical neighbourhoods springing up.

You can paint a favela bright colours, but it won't hide the paupers within.

Pretty much every neighbourhood (At least in the UK) is constructed around the same time which usually means the houses are pretty much identical...

FM Ninja 048 wrote:Would be a Great Idea for disaster relief housing, get some of those in and build some big buildings like dorms for people while you rebuild.

But as a replacement for building normal houses, seeing that the construction industry employs over 2 million people in the UK.

The video covers that issue. Way back when, the largest job market in the US was farming. In 1900 62% of US citizens were farmers. Due to efficiency changes from technology, today less than 1.5% of US citizens are farmers. The world didn't end then, and it won't end now. Like every other single industry, construction will have to adapt to change. Those workers will need to find a new place in the field.

Henners91 wrote:Hooray for bland identical neighbourhoods springing up.

You can paint a favela bright colours, but it won't hide the paupers within.

The video also specifically says that the houses don't need to be identical. They are that way in the video for sake of brevity and ease of animation. On top of that, perhaps you don't have it in the UK, but tract housing exists here in the US, where communities have 3 or 4 styles of houses that are alternated.

That's only relevant whenever those people actually have an alternate employment method.

Not that I oppose 3d printing, I'm just saying, it's not as rosy as they would like to make it out to be.

I've seen faster.

 Melissia wrote:
That's only relevant whenever those people actually have an alternate employment method.

Not that I oppose 3d printing, I'm just saying, it's not as rosy as they would like to make it out to be.

So which is the greater tragedy:

a few million people with work history having to find new jobs?
or
the 1 billion people living in slums with no income or work opportunity at all?

Who says that first world societies deserve better treatment?

The tech was designed with those 1 billion people in mind, not the less than 1% of that who will have to change careers.

Plenty of other industries underwent just as drastic of changes, and society adapted. Cars, computers, etc.

You know for a fact someone is gonna make blueprints for a penis house...

 Aerethan wrote:
a few million people with work history having to find new jobs?
or
the 1 billion people living in slums with no income or work opportunity at all?

That is an incredibly stupid, broken, and illogical argument.

This technology will not give billions of people income or work opportunities. Therefor, it is not a choice between the two things that you present, no matter how much you want to lie and claim that it is.

As I said (not that you paid any attention), I have no problem with this technology. I mostly have a problem with the false assertions that you are making. This WILL have a negative impact on employment if widely adopted. That is a thing which is true. In many ways it's well worth it. In other ways, it is not.

I didn't say it would make 1 billion jobs. I said it could provide HOUSING for 1 billion people who don't have it or the means to acquire it, which to me is a bigger concern than what Bob is going to do for a living from now on.

I agree that people will lose their jobs. The point I'm making is that damn near every other industry has gone through such a change and somehow the world survives.

The positive possibilities for this application far outweigh the negative impacts. In this case it isn't some company trying to crank out MORE products for less money so that they can have higher profits.

People complained when robots started making cars, and we all got over it. This won't be any different.

 Aerethan wrote:
I didn't say it would make 1 billion jobs. I said it could provide HOUSING for 1 billion people who don't have it or the means to acquire it, which to me is a bigger concern than what Bob is going to do for a living from now on.

The world is not currently surviving very well. Unemployment is ~10% or higher for more than half the planet and middle class medium wage jobs in America have been dramatically reduced in number. Mcdonalds and starbucks can't employ everyone on earth and they don't pay a liveable wage. Technological unemployment is real.

I guess we better start working on that whole utopian society shindig...

 purplefood wrote:
I guess we better start working on that whole utopian society shindig...

Better buy some guns then, the capitol owners aren't going to give up a future where they become golden gods without being convinced.

Looks good. Not that it would help in England with all the NIMBY green-belt nonsense, but still

 ShumaGorath wrote:

 Aerethan wrote:
I didn't say it would make 1 billion jobs. I said it could provide HOUSING for 1 billion people who don't have it or the means to acquire it, which to me is a bigger concern than what Bob is going to do for a living from now on.

The world is not currently surviving very well. Unemployment is ~10% or higher for more than half the planet and middle class medium wage jobs in America have been dramatically reduced in number. Mcdonalds and starbucks can't employ everyone on earth and they don't pay a liveable wage. Technological unemployment is real.

It's disappointing to lose your job to a machine, but the benefits to society outweigh the losses to construction workers. For everyone else anyway. It's not going to be long till everyone loses their job to machines though.

nomotog wrote:

 ShumaGorath wrote:

 Aerethan wrote:
I didn't say it would make 1 billion jobs. I said it could provide HOUSING for 1 billion people who don't have it or the means to acquire it, which to me is a bigger concern than what Bob is going to do for a living from now on.

The world is not currently surviving very well. Unemployment is ~10% or higher for more than half the planet and middle class medium wage jobs in America have been dramatically reduced in number. Mcdonalds and starbucks can't employ everyone on earth and they don't pay a liveable wage. Technological unemployment is real.

It's disappointing to lose your job to a machine, but the benefits to society outweigh the losses to construction workers. For everyone else anyway. It's not going to be long till everyone loses their job to machines though.

Which makes me question if the benefits are outweighing the losses to society. Technological unemployment has a very real chance to cause a societal collapse. Total labor automation is something the human race has never dealt with before.

STC anyone?

Also, the industry will adapt.

 ShumaGorath wrote:

nomotog wrote:

 ShumaGorath wrote:

 Aerethan wrote:
I didn't say it would make 1 billion jobs. I said it could provide HOUSING for 1 billion people who don't have it or the means to acquire it, which to me is a bigger concern than what Bob is going to do for a living from now on.

The world is not currently surviving very well. Unemployment is ~10% or higher for more than half the planet and middle class medium wage jobs in America have been dramatically reduced in number. Mcdonalds and starbucks can't employ everyone on earth and they don't pay a liveable wage. Technological unemployment is real.

It's disappointing to lose your job to a machine, but the benefits to society outweigh the losses to construction workers. For everyone else anyway. It's not going to be long till everyone loses their job to machines though.

Which makes me question if the benefits are outweighing the losses to society. Technological unemployment has a very real chance to cause a societal collapse. Total labor automation is something the human race has never dealt with before.

I'm not worried. That much. Society is resilient, Capitalism even more so. Things will change, but we are built to handle change.

nomotog wrote:

 ShumaGorath wrote:

nomotog wrote:

 ShumaGorath wrote:

 Aerethan wrote:
I didn't say it would make 1 billion jobs. I said it could provide HOUSING for 1 billion people who don't have it or the means to acquire it, which to me is a bigger concern than what Bob is going to do for a living from now on.

The world is not currently surviving very well. Unemployment is ~10% or higher for more than half the planet and middle class medium wage jobs in America have been dramatically reduced in number. Mcdonalds and starbucks can't employ everyone on earth and they don't pay a liveable wage. Technological unemployment is real.

It's disappointing to lose your job to a machine, but the benefits to society outweigh the losses to construction workers. For everyone else anyway. It's not going to be long till everyone loses their job to machines though.

Which makes me question if the benefits are outweighing the losses to society. Technological unemployment has a very real chance to cause a societal collapse. Total labor automation is something the human race has never dealt with before.

I'm not worried. That much. Society is resilient, Capitalism even more so. Things will change, but we are built to handle change.

I question how capitalism, an economic system predicated on the idea of distributed workloads and no social class system survives the creation of a class system and an environment where work isn't done by laborers.

What new social class? Tekkies?

Also, more people in service won't hurt society, as long as the needs for produced goods are met.

Well...I would be considered upper crust society....rest of you drones....eerrrr servents....eerrrr worker CASTE get back to work and eat your porridge

 ShumaGorath wrote:

nomotog wrote:

 ShumaGorath wrote:

nomotog wrote:

 ShumaGorath wrote:

 Aerethan wrote:
I didn't say it would make 1 billion jobs. I said it could provide HOUSING for 1 billion people who don't have it or the means to acquire it, which to me is a bigger concern than what Bob is going to do for a living from now on.

The world is not currently surviving very well. Unemployment is ~10% or higher for more than half the planet and middle class medium wage jobs in America have been dramatically reduced in number. Mcdonalds and starbucks can't employ everyone on earth and they don't pay a liveable wage. Technological unemployment is real.

It's disappointing to lose your job to a machine, but the benefits to society outweigh the losses to construction workers. For everyone else anyway. It's not going to be long till everyone loses their job to machines though.

Which makes me question if the benefits are outweighing the losses to society. Technological unemployment has a very real chance to cause a societal collapse. Total labor automation is something the human race has never dealt with before.

I'm not worried. That much. Society is resilient, Capitalism even more so. Things will change, but we are built to handle change.

I question how capitalism, an economic system predicated on the idea of distributed workloads and no social class system survives the creation of a class system and an environment where work isn't done by laborers.

Maybe you used too many big words, but I don't understand why you think it will brake down?

nomotog wrote:

 ShumaGorath wrote:

nomotog wrote:

 ShumaGorath wrote:

nomotog wrote:

 ShumaGorath wrote:

 Aerethan wrote:
I didn't say it would make 1 billion jobs. I said it could provide HOUSING for 1 billion people who don't have it or the means to acquire it, which to me is a bigger concern than what Bob is going to do for a living from now on.

The world is not currently surviving very well. Unemployment is ~10% or higher for more than half the planet and middle class medium wage jobs in America have been dramatically reduced in number. Mcdonalds and starbucks can't employ everyone on earth and they don't pay a liveable wage. Technological unemployment is real.

It's disappointing to lose your job to a machine, but the benefits to society outweigh the losses to construction workers. For everyone else anyway. It's not going to be long till everyone loses their job to machines though.

Which makes me question if the benefits are outweighing the losses to society. Technological unemployment has a very real chance to cause a societal collapse. Total labor automation is something the human race has never dealt with before.

I'm not worried. That much. Society is resilient, Capitalism even more so. Things will change, but we are built to handle change.

I question how capitalism, an economic system predicated on the idea of distributed workloads and no social class system survives the creation of a class system and an environment where work isn't done by laborers.

Maybe you used too many big words, but I don't understand why you think it will brake down?

Too many people without any revenues. Too much authority and importance given to those with the technological knowledge necessary to operate/build the automatons.

Oh I see. You think that the investor class will survive. I don't think it will.

 Kovnik Obama wrote:
What new social class?

Those who own the machines.

Not really a new class though. THey're just one that is getting more and more power.