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Sorcerer lord 400
Level 4
Motz
Chaos familiar
3rd eye of tz.
Soul feeder
Talisman of preservation (4+)
Enchanted shield
Sword of might

Hero 235pts
Bsb
Motz.
Scaled skin
Sword of anti heroes
Charmed shield

18 woc 326
Shields
MoTz
Banner and champ

18 woc 326pts
Shields
MoTz
Banner and champ

6 chaos ogres 270pts
Great wepons
Motz.

40 Marauders 240

Mutileth Vortex Beast

And the extra 500points...

Chariot 120
Tzeentch

Chariot 120
Tzeentch

10 chaos hounds 80
Posined
Scaly skin

10 chaos hounds 80
Posined
Acales

2 x spawns 100

What do you think of the update?

Well, I like the look of this so far. And Tzneetch is my favorite. Regarding the warriors and marauders, either could be good, but it may be better to have a big block of marauders as a flank or just to stall enemies, as my only concern is having that many smaller units of warriors may not be best, if they start to get killed off early with artillary or face tough cavalry.

But I think this looks good overall.

Thanks for the feedback. My friends have recomended halbeards instead of shields...

What do you think?

Go with the shields/hand wep, halberd aint that needy unless you go against a high toughness army.

what's not to love about a 5+ parry save`?

I thought you got a 6+ parry and a 6+ ward? Not a 5+

 Lordjig6 wrote:
I thought you got a 6+ parry and a 6+ ward? Not a 5+

Parry saves are wards

MoT increases a ward by 1

Thus your parry save becomes a +5


To me I think the chosen should have halberds instead of AHW. 5 extra attacks (assuming ranks of 5) vs S5 imo is no contest, especially since theres not much else in the damage department besides the beast


Not sure about Vilitch, I feel a unkillable sorcerer lord might do his job a little safer

Thankyou. Thats good news it means i dont have to change the models already :-)

Thats fine i can do that.

I also agree :-)

What layout would you recomend for an unkillable sorcerer lord?

I thought his loremaster was good

 Lordjig6 wrote:

I thought his loremaster was good

Well Loremaster aint bad but with a Chaos Familiar on a lvl 4 you're getting 5 out of the 6 rollable spells and its not like Infernal Gateway is the "Must Have" anymore assuming you're rolling with the lroe of tzeentch

Though I suppose an unkillable sorcerer might not be possible since your BSB is the one with the unkillable build

Yea i guess your right... Whats the unkillabel sorcerer build? I always thought making your bsb unkillable was better?

you want your general to be unkillable we WOC got a high Ld but loosing your general is no fun making you loose another 100p neither can you make a bsb as the general due the rules.

Soery i dont really understand what you were sayi g.

I know we get high ld.

But ive alwys been making my bsb like that.

What would you recomend for better builds then guys?

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I think this looks solid. The 40 Marauders could be a good tarpit or redirector, but the extra 20 Warriors can also be good for juat ading in attacks and flank charging. You may want to take them for the added offense, this way the units can really work together overall.

well the marauders were for 2.5k. but as long as it all looks solid i think i would choose them over the forsaken as i already have them

does the 2k look solid? with the ogres?

also, is my lord a good build?


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cheers for coming accross by the way mountain breaker

No problem! But yeah I like the look of it for 2000pts! The Lord is good, slightly pricey. But thats not a big deal as he has a big oart in the army, buffing your units and taking out enemies.

Thats true. just trying to SQEEZE in 240pts of naked marauders (thats 40 folks) obviously drop the spawn
.. Any other ideas?

Ok, lots of nicenes here but...
Cant have chaos familiar and dispel scroll as they are both arcane. I would get a worse sword on the bsb to add in a talisman of endurance.

If you will be playing a shooty army then blasted standard rocks.

At 2500 I'd consider some knights instead of more infantry. Some hounds might also help to get rid of chaff, which you currently have nothing to control.

Oh yes, my mistake. I forgot about the arcane items. Also the Cavalry is a good idea. I think I mentioned it previously or in the other thread, along with the Chimera. Also the Hounds would be good.

Well thats not an issue as in the new book the familar is a mutations not wargear... So its not arcane. I dont have the cavelry yet but is there any chance of helping me get the marauders into my 2k?

Duly noted on the talisman. I could give him a halberd and use the tal. Maybe drop the charmed shield see if theres a good 10pt sword? Lol

Yea im not a huge fan of the chimera. And like you said cavelry is expensive. I aooreciate its worth it but its for 2.5k definatly. I wont have hounds in my tzeentch themed list. Im sorry there just tooo khornate.

But the main armies i play have very little shooting /warmachines.

The reeason i dont have blasted standard is the points which im currently struggling to thin out anyway.


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Well thats not an issue as in

 Lordjig6 wrote:
Well thats not an issue as in the new book the familar is a mutations not wargear... So its not arcane.

Not true. Rsead the text above mutations, it specificaly says that some items do count in magic item categories. The chaos familiar also lists itself as arcane.

Oh...your right. darn :/ sorry i didnt relise that...

Well that drops 25Pts then... any other sugestions?

Id be dropping the spawn, the musicians, the dispell scroll (now) that drop about 100pts, so i still need to find 140ish

Any other improvements for this list? I built my sorcerer lord today :-) hes made from Vilitch but i took off that stupid flail arm. So now hes a lord with a familiar

Ive managed to salvage 6 ogres from my kingdoms army that arnt needed for anyth8ng you der 3k :-) so thats them. I still have my marauder horde id like to try a d squeeze in if i could... Any sugestions?

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You really should take the iron curse icon. Its a great buy and giving a squad a 5+ (MoT) ward against war machines is all kinds of awesome

Ok. Understood... So one of the warrior squads?

Any other sugestions?

I think that army will do pretty well - will survive loads. I would swap charmed shield and scaly skin for ironcurse token, enchanted shield and poison attacks. Would mean he doesn't have the 2++ against first shooting wound, but presumably he is in a unit of warriors, and they would all have a 5++ against war machines. He still has the same AS and is more likely to wound in challenges.

My sorcerer lird has enchanted shield and the scaly skin is making him very survivavble. I agree with the pendant though... Wheres the poisned attacks coming from?

Poisoned attacks is a 15 point mutation, can't rem the name and don't have my book with me

Ah right ok. Ill have a look when i get in :-)

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