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It seems that the Emperor was mainly focused on wiping out existing Xeno and destroying the Chaos powers back in the Great Crusade.

Did he know about the Dynasties of Zombie-bots sleeping in their tomb worlds? I mean... if he did, and if he knew they were gonna wake up and kill things they don't like, wouldn't he have fortified the existing Imperial worlds rather than expanding the Empire?

As far as I know, there is next to no cannon information on what the Emperor did or did not know about.

His actions would seem to suggest he didn't even know about Chaos, or at least he didn't have a good understanding of how dangerous it was to his men both physically and mentally.

The Emperor knew more about Chaos than just about anyone in the setting.

Presumably he knew of the Necrons, considering he managed to best and imprison one of their star gods.

 Void__Dragon wrote:
The Emperor knew more about Chaos than just about anyone in the setting.

Presumably he knew of the Necrons, considering he managed to best and imprison one of their star gods.

If the Emperor knew about the true nature of chaos and the moral threat it represented, then he is an even bigger fool than one would think for sending his men into the galaxy with no prior knowledge of something that could easily become their greatest foe.

In regards to the C'tan he bested, according to the new necron lore, that C'tan was probably hiding from the Necrons and I very much doubt that he and the Emperor had a chat where he explained why he was where the Emperor beat him.

The Emperor knew about Chaos but he strategically didn't tell his men about it. If you read the Horus Heresy novels, which as far as I know are cannon, after one of the Luna Wolves gets possessed and eventually killed, Horus sits down and talks to Loken about the event. He explains to Loken that the Emperor only told the Primarchs a cursory knowledge of the warp and Chaos and didn't tell the footsoldiers of the Adeptus Astartes or the Imperial Guard for fear that if they knew then they would more easily fall prey to it. He basically used a strategy with his forces that most parents use with their kids, that is to say if you tell a kid not to do something he is more likely to do it whereas if you don't tell the kid about it and hope he doesn't find out, then maybe he won't do it. By not telling his forces about Chaos he hoped that they wouldn't be tempted to turn against him. Obviously he grossly underestimated Chaos and in the end it cost him...aka the Horus Heresy.

As for the Necrons, he obviously knew about the C'tan when he imprisoned the Void Dragon on Mars. What isn't clear is whether or not he knew about the Necrons and their slumbering armies or if he just thought the C'tan were another threat to the galaxy not unlike Chaos or the Enslavers. It's likely though that he knew about the Necrons and that their awakening is a part of the Emperors bigger plan and he may have a trick up his sleave to eliminate their threat once and for all...but he had to wait for them to awaken first.

The empower knew,/ knows everything.

Nuff said

He's only immortal, not omniscient.

If i am correct was there a tomb world mybe on mars or was that a rumor that mybe just mybe he had a hint about necrons?


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And i bet he had no idea about dam bugs they are killing everything.

Whether or not the Emperor actually fought the Void Dragon (well, a Shard of the Void Dragon) and imprisoned it or if that whole section of Mechanicum is just a giant metaphor for him stopping the containment unit sealing the Shard from releasing it is up for debate. Mechanicum itself goes to some lengths to draw a line under the whole thing and label it with a big red sign that reads "WARNING! WARNING! THIS VISION MAY NOT BE HISTORICALLY ACCURATE!".

Even if the Emperor did find a dormant Tomb on Mars and with the Mechanicus worked to re-purpose it for his own ends, that still doesn't really lead on to him having knowledge of the galaxy-wide terror to come or the full extend of the Necron threat. I tend to lean away from it even being a full and proper Tomb though, because of one simple question; where are its Necrons?

He probably did. But he also probably knew they weren't going to wake up for a few thousand more years so they weren't high on his priority list.

Better to wipe out all the other xeno races that were currently a threat then go after something that won't be a problem for a few thousand more years.

Of course he did. He knew everything. Hence his plan for conquering everything.

I cant realy say he knew,..

his actions seemded primarely focussed on building up humanity while holding Chaos at bay... Chaos was definately his main focus..

Of course he knew that there were more alien races in the universe,.. but hey,.. his marines were beating everything to a pulp... technology was booming,.. every day newer and better weapon designs.. I dont think he was that affraid at the time.. If he knew he would die so soon,... well then he might have chosen a whole different path... Its hard to say as long as GW doesnt make something absolutey canon about this...

I don't think he knew as necrons have no (or very minimal) warp presence and I reckon he got his list of enemy's by there presence in the warp, as he's the strongest human psyker around and used his powers like a search light they could of been over looked.

This is pure guess work and I can't back it up.

He had to have known.

He did make a deal with the Void Dragon, who was running from the Necrons. So he must have known they existed.

The Emperor has a little bit of knowledge about everything.
He probably knew about them but didn't know when they were going to awake or their numbers. He probably figured if Humanity kept moving at the same rate it was technologically, when the Necrons did wake up they'd be crushed like bugs.

I think the general consent is that the Emperor did knew a little about Necrons but wasn't terribly concerned with them. But seeing how Necrons have no warp presence, I wonder about how he knew about them.

Unless the Void Dragon told him, I don't see any way he could have known about them. They have no Warp presence, so he couldn't have scried them. I think Necron tombs might have been discovered on some human worlds prior to awakening, but they wouldn't just be standing open so people could walk in and gawk at the skelebots. A door of basically-impenetrable necrodermis would probably be enough to get them filed in the "worry about it later" file.

Besides, even if he did know about them, how would he have known they were going to wake up soon (for very relative values of soon)? 40k is such a nasty place, there must be dozens more ancient horrors slumbering for eons. He had a lot more pressing matters to attend to than a threat that might not even manifest before the human race went extinct.

He probably did know about the necrons, considering in the necron codex it talks about tomb worlds "malfunctioning" and some awoken to see the great crusade.

So he must have known something.

On the other hand... Necron tomb worls are awakening on planets where humanity has lived on or next to for thousands of year without them knowing.... Sooo i dont know

I think he would. Knowing the Emperor he probably knew.

Nobody_Holme wrote:
He's only immortal, not omniscient.

Heresy!! Burn the....oh...um...sorry about that. I get a little carried away at times.

I'd say he'd have known. Bearing in mind how old he is, his knowledge of the galaxy and his great mind, I'd say he'd know about the War in Heaven at least, he might nit have known everything about the Necrons, but I'd say he'd have known a little at least.

It is heresy to imply that the emperor doesn't know something

Where is the story about the emperor and the Void Dragon? one of the Necron codexes* or somewhere else?

Also, not really related, but how heavily featured is the emperor in the HH novels? Asking b/c I feel like his appearances in the fluff were pretty sparse in the past but if he's an actual character (rather than an occasional character or someone who's spoken of but never seen) then that's a big change to 40k and the stuff he does in those books could have a lot of impact on how he's susposed to be seen.


*I read once that the actual plural is codices but my know-it-all side is struggling with my don't-be-a-pain-in-the-@$$-side.

Considering the scale of the Great Crusade (millions of worlds were discovered, almost every major xenos civilization was wiped out), it's a safe bet that the Astartes encountered Necrons at some point or another.

Now, whether or not they knew the magnitude of what they were facing, well, who knows. The Emperor may have known about the Necrons. Or, he might have just considered them one more xenos for the burning.

The_Slight_Brigade wrote:
Where is the story about the emperor and the Void Dragon? one of the Necron codexes* or somewhere else?

Also, not really related, but how heavily featured is the emperor in the HH novels? Asking b/c I feel like his appearances in the fluff were pretty sparse in the past but if he's an actual character (rather than an occasional character or someone who's spoken of but never seen) then that's a big change to 40k and the stuff he does in those books could have a lot of impact on how he's susposed to be seen.


*I read once that the actual plural is codices but my know-it-all side is struggling with my don't-be-a-pain-in-the-@$$-side.

It's actually not confirmed if that *is* a shard of the Void Dragon or not, but it is highly suspected, and makes a lot of sense, there was also a Necron raid on Mars, though for what purpose is also not known, but it is suspected (by fans) that it was to retrieve the shard. One of those 40K things that is hinted and suggested, but not explicitly stated. Lots of implication, though.

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Dragon_of_Mars#.UfbpvayYv_Y

And, yes, the proper plural of "codex" is "codices" (ko-de-sees).

The story where the Emperor beats the Void Dragon's ass using nothing but a horse and a 16th century iron sword, is in the Horus Heresy book Mechanicum.

Come on, that was just for looks.

he actually beat him with his OTT psychic powers.

It was the horse.

After the fight was over, he tied the Void Dragon's tail to the back of his horse, and dragged it away.

> Single horse

>Dragging a 20 foot tall dragon who-knows how many miles

Between this and that Hun IC in the IG codex beating Necron ass, horses are just OP against Necrons.

Rending Pony!