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So with all the pictures of the models that have dropped the last few days, this might be the first thing I preorder in a while. The models are gorgeous, there is love for a ton of factions and the fact that kill team has had two major releases in just a few months is something I really commend GW on. That combined that the story is something that has a lot of potential has me pumped.

GW board games are usually very expensive for little replay value. This one compounds the problem by having models that aren't usable in the core games. While the models look extremely cool, I can't justify spending money on it.

 Toofast wrote:
GW board games are usually very expensive for little replay value. This one compounds the problem by having models that aren't usable in the core games. While the models look extremely cool, I can't justify spending money on it.

It's been mentioned in the thread in the rumours forum that the models will have corresponding rules for WH40k, much like the Rouge Trader models have done in the Kill Team game.

That being said, they might not be what people are looking for in a competitive meta, so YMMV.

I'm adopting a wait and see approuch,

I'm a lot more excited than I thought I could be about one of their board games. Their marketing was pretty on point with this one: great voice acting in the videos, interesting theme, and fantastic looking models from various factions.

I'm not sure that it would have enough replay value for the game alone, but if these models have 40k rules I think I'll definitely pick up a copy — especially if they allow imperial armies to take the xenos mercenaries as the retinue of the inquisitor. Fun units like the Starstriders are a great addition to the game in my oppinion, regardless of if they are competitive Although I do think the rogue trader models could have been slightly more powerful in 40k.

 Raichase wrote:
It's been mentioned in the thread in the rumours forum that the models will have corresponding rules for WH40k, much like the Rouge Trader models have done in the Kill Team game.

It's a pity that the rogue trader stuff was so closed off. The retinue included two ministorum and one mechanicus models, none of which could be fielded with those factions.

Nope, nothing but apathy here. It's a really expensive board game that hardly anyone is going to play and probably won't be supported by GW for more than a week, with models that are likely to be marginal at best as 40k kits and may or may not be available to buy separately. Buying it would just be wasting money on a bunch of cardboard that is going straight into the trash. But hey, the models are cool, so maybe they'll get a separate release without the pretense that this is an independent game.

It won't give players a competitive game winning dick measuring contest advantage.
So it'll do poorly.
Plus it'll be £90 probably so...meh.

The chaos marines look nice. Eldar sniper is ok.

A.T. wrote:

 Raichase wrote:
It's been mentioned in the thread in the rumours forum that the models will have corresponding rules for WH40k, much like the Rouge Trader models have done in the Kill Team game.

It's a pity that the rogue trader stuff was so closed off. The retinue included two ministorum and one mechanicus models, none of which could be fielded with those factions.

Can't the rogue trader starstriders be fielded in any imperium army? The only way you can field them is in their own patrol detachment, so any imperium army is allowed to. Although when you can only have 3 detachments in a 2k list, most lists will struggle to make room.

I do agree that what I outlined above is a bit of a flaw, and I would hope to see more flexibility in terms of how to take the Blackstone Fortress models in a 40k list. For example, models having the keywords to simply be taken as a regular choice from the faction they hail from, in addition to the option to take a fluffy detachment of all the new units together.

I'm excited as hell for it. In fact the only negative comments I've seen since the reveal are on this thread and are from perpetual GW naysayers.

 Peregrine wrote:
Nope, nothing but apathy here. It's a really expensive board game that hardly anyone is going to play and probably won't be supported by GW for more than a week, with models that are likely to be marginal at best as 40k kits and may or may not be available to buy separately. Buying it would just be wasting money on a bunch of cardboard that is going straight into the trash. But hey, the models are cool, so maybe they'll get a separate release without the pretense that this is an independent game.

42 plus models for $150 along with the rest is a pretty good value.

It's a narrative game in areas GW doesn't explore often.

This will sell incredibly well and not just because people are going to kill for those renegades.

But glad you get to judge things yet again without actually knowing much about it.

 walkiflalka wrote:
Can't the rogue trader starstriders be fielded in any imperium army?

Yes, but only as a self contained patrol (one of the characters has a special rule to prevent them being run as a vanguard)

You cannot for instance add the death cultist character to a detachment with death cultists, she has all the same keywords but arranged to make them incompatible. Same is true of the <adeptus mechanicus>/<mars> techpriest and the 'non-sororitas' sororitas hospitaller.

The thing is, the models probably won't be competitive in a regular 40K game, much like the Rogue (or Rouge if you haven't painted them yet) Trader units.
However, people who want to play narrative, and therefore not worry about power and strict organizations, can squeeze these into any type of game.

Personally? I'm damn excited. But that's because the box has two specific things. Traitor Guardsmen, who's line was just axed, and new chaos marines. Me and my dad already have our eyes on the set, both of us being chaos players.

Kinda want that Eldar ranger, not a lot of interest in the rest of the box.

The models do look very cool, but I’ve got a backlog of stuff on the paintbench anyway, so picking stuff up just to paint is low on my to-do list. If reviews come in with the game play being amazing, with good replayability, I might consider it. But I somehow doubt that it will happen. Plenty of other games out there, for less.

Are the pictures of all the models on the Warhammer community site?

Nevermind.
Geez those chaos marines are great

I’ve been close to picking up Warhammer Quest: Silver Tower for ages, so a 40k version destroys whatever willpower I had left.
Even if it’s limited in replay, I’m only likely to gather enough friends for it ~twice a year, so will take a while to get stale.
Plus, the models are awesome, so I’ll enjoy painting those.
Won’t be expecting much lasting support though.

It is one of the best release (model + fluff) of the decade for me

 Toofast wrote:
GW board games are usually very expensive for little replay value. This one compounds the problem by having models that aren't usable in the core games. While the models look extremely cool, I can't justify spending money on it.

All models are usable in the core games. It's called conversion and imagination. Two founding principles of the hobby.


I really like what we have seen so far. As others have mentioned the universal reaction so far has been super positive. (Only negativity coming from the same old black-holes of misery and despair)

 Peregrine wrote:
Nope, nothing but apathy here. It's a really expensive board game that hardly anyone is going to play and probably won't be supported by GW for more than a week, with models that are likely to be marginal at best as 40k kits and may or may not be available to buy separately. Buying it would just be wasting money on a bunch of cardboard that is going straight into the trash. But hey, the models are cool, so maybe they'll get a separate release without the pretense that this is an independent game.

Jaded and cynical much? Didn't you say the same thing about Shardspire?

 Tamwulf wrote:

 Peregrine wrote:
Nope, nothing but apathy here. It's a really expensive board game that hardly anyone is going to play and probably won't be supported by GW for more than a week, with models that are likely to be marginal at best as 40k kits and may or may not be available to buy separately. Buying it would just be wasting money on a bunch of cardboard that is going straight into the trash. But hey, the models are cool, so maybe they'll get a separate release without the pretense that this is an independent game.

Jaded and cynical much? Didn't you say the same thing about Shardspire?

Porably, it's Peregrine, being jaded and cynical is what he does.

I'll likely pick one up on an eBay sale ($108 by then) simply for the cultists, and some minis I can use in our groups more role-playing oriented games. Been doing some Inq28 style stuff too --- so good for that. Not planning on even playing the game, honestly, but the minis are justifiable at that price. Also, you can easily sell off a few you don't want and make back half or more of what you spent. It's an easy decision for me if the sale comes along (as they do every month).

For $260?
Yeah, USA gets it for $150, we got slugged substantially more (don't even ask what Titanicus goes for).

Not on your life.

It's that rampant gouging that made me give up on GW games 5 years ago.

 chromedog wrote:
For $260?
Yeah, USA gets it for $150, we got slugged substantially more (don't even ask what Titanicus goes for).

Not on your life.

It's that rampant gouging that made me give up on GW games 5 years ago.

Woof. At that price, you could likely buy multiple starters for the amazing Twisted miniatures game line that originates from Australia... And those models are amazing enough I would be willing to pay shipping to the U.S. just to have them.

Yeah, I'm getting pumped for it too. Although I have zero interest in the game itself, the variety of models is just too good.
Cultist that actually look like former Guardsmen? About dang time.
Plastic Eldar Ranger? Yes, please

I plan to get the set, take the minis I want (which so far may just be the Ranger, Cultists, CSMs and Beastmen) and sell the rest. Hopefully can make back at least half what I pay

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I love having a selection of esoteric models to play with, paint and display. Count me in. Also... Kroot!!!

Don’t really care about the game, just gonna buy the chaos models off eBay.

I'm only really excited about the minis. the chaos marines, spindle drone, negavolt cultist(please dark mechanicum) look so dope. Rogue Trader is perfectly OTT.

I love playing Silver Tower and if this is as good i'll definatly be getting it.

I play Horus Heresy almost exclusively, and can find a use for almost all these models save the Xenos and the CSM. Very excited, I’m sure some folks near mean might go halvsies on one or more