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Can you take a FNP roll against damage dealt to a character, then if they fail, roll for a Bodyguard-type rule to intercept wounds?

In this specific example, I'd like to compare it to the Victrix Bodyguard rule, but if others work differently, it'd be good to know.

I thought you only get one roll after your save, what form that damage evasion takes is irrelevant. One save, one FNP, slot damage.

Don't "bodyguard" type rules activate after the Wound step?

 FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
I thought you only get one roll after your save, what form that damage evasion takes is irrelevant. One save, one FNP, slot damage.

Redirecting a wound to someone else isn't the same as ignoring the wound. As flanderz points out, though, you have to look at the bodyuguard rule to see when it triggers, if it would be before or after a FNP roll.

 doctortom wrote:

 FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
I thought you only get one roll after your save, what form that damage evasion takes is irrelevant. One save, one FNP, slot damage.

Redirecting a wound to someone else isn't the same as ignoring the wound. As flanderz points out, though, you have to look at the bodyuguard rule to see when it triggers, if it would be before or after a FNP roll.

It seems to be in a wonderland trigger. It's "when you lose a wound" that triggers both the bodyguard and FNP abilities.

 Xenomancers wrote:

 doctortom wrote:

 FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
I thought you only get one roll after your save, what form that damage evasion takes is irrelevant. One save, one FNP, slot damage.

Redirecting a wound to someone else isn't the same as ignoring the wound. As flanderz points out, though, you have to look at the bodyuguard rule to see when it triggers, if it would be before or after a FNP roll.

It seems to be in a wonderland trigger. It's "when you lose a wound" that triggers both the bodyguard and FNP abilities.

So if you're trying to use both it gets sequenced, and if it's your opponent's turn he gets to pick if he wants the bodyguard to intercept before the FNP (which becomes irrelevant if bodyguard works). Lovely.*sigh*

Honour Guard of Macragge
Roll a D6 each time a friendly ULTRAMARINES CHARACTER loses a wound whilst they are within 3" of this unit; on a 2+ a model from this unit can intercept that hit - that ULTRAMARINES CHARACTER does not lose a wound but this unit suffers a mortal wound.

You would only lose a wound when your FNP roll fails. When that happens the victrix unit can intercept that on 2+, and they suffer one MW.

 p5freak wrote:

Honour Guard of Macragge
Roll a D6 each time a friendly ULTRAMARINES CHARACTER loses a wound whilst they are within 3" of this unit; on a 2+ a model from this unit can intercept that hit - that ULTRAMARINES CHARACTER does not lose a wound but this unit suffers a mortal wound.

You would only lose a wound when your FNP roll fails. When that happens the victrix unit can intercept that on 2+, and they suffer one MW.

You lose a wound before you roll a FNP though. FNP states when you lose a wound on a 6+ you do not lose that wound.

Both abilities have the exact same trigger.

FNP triggers when wound is lost (when damage is dealt).

 skchsan wrote:
FNP triggers when wound is lost (when damage is dealt).

No argument here - the same is true about the bodyguard rule.