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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/11 00:33:50
Subject: Necron New 9th Edition Codex Tactica: All Hail The Silent King
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Big Mek in Kustom Dragster with Soopa-Gun
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oh no i am very much into warrior spam. I dont plan to run a list w/o 60 warriors. I only got 70, but im waiting on the rumor start collecting box since it'll also give me the 3rd CDS (if rumors are true). The idea of a squad of warriors pumping 40 shots hitting on 2s autowounding on 6s and causing extra hits on 6s amuses me greatly lol
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2020/10/11 00:34:33
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/11 00:49:22
Subject: Necron New 9th Edition Codex Tactica: All Hail The Silent King
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Big Mek in Kustom Dragster with Soopa-Gun
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Yeah the rumor is CDS + Skorp + Overlord + Warriors.
Far as im aware its just a rumor though as ive only seen people talking about it in necron chats. I got a lot to paint as it is so im fine waiting lol
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/12 13:23:23
Subject: Necron New 9th Edition Codex Tactica: All Hail The Silent King
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Big Mek in Kustom Dragster with Soopa-Gun
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im not really seeing why a pyschomancer + flayers is good in the backfield.
Most actions a character cant do, psychomancer's special ability happens in the Morale phase for some stupid reason so he cant deny overwatch for the target the flayers are trying to charge, halving adv+charge at 12" is nothing, and his other ability is within 6.
If you are wanting him for the arkana just bring a plasmancer, since a plasmancer does as much mortals w/o an arkana.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/13 19:32:42
Subject: Necron New 9th Edition Codex Tactica: All Hail The Silent King
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Big Mek in Kustom Dragster with Soopa-Gun
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Relentless Expansionists does not negate Eternal Guardian. The 6" move is "pregame" which is before the first battleround starts. The cover from Guardian is specifically "battle round" More than likely they'll change its wording because right now its basically worded where if the necron goes 2nd or does a pregame move he still has it active as "this battle round" he hasnt moved yet, even if it isnt his turn. Battle-round bound rules that arent tied to a "once per battle round..." sort of thing are really bad as they cause loopholes like this.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2020/10/13 19:34:41
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/13 21:22:35
Subject: Necron New 9th Edition Codex Tactica: All Hail The Silent King
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Big Mek in Kustom Dragster with Soopa-Gun
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if you could CP reroll that 1/6 chance i'd probably run it lol
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/14 14:42:27
Subject: Necron New 9th Edition Codex Tactica: All Hail The Silent King
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Big Mek in Kustom Dragster with Soopa-Gun
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Warden or Plasmancer imo would be best.
Warden because especially if you buff the warrior squad before they jump over, theyre probably going to be charged and most likely still be alive unless the enemy team unloaded EVERYTHING into them (also a win for us). Warden lets them back off and shoot.
Plasmancer because mortals, and a bit of an anti-charge with the arkana.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/14 14:46:18
Subject: Necron New 9th Edition Codex Tactica: All Hail The Silent King
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Big Mek in Kustom Dragster with Soopa-Gun
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Chronomancer before they Veil across the battlefield.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/14 16:23:29
Subject: Necron New 9th Edition Codex Tactica: All Hail The Silent King
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Big Mek in Kustom Dragster with Soopa-Gun
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i wouldnt charge with the warriors that veil'd over.
Issue being is if you actually succeed in that, warriors arent really that great in melee anyway and you are now leaving the Warden in the dust since there is no way he's also succeeding to charge. He'll be in the wide open and get shot down immediately.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/16 19:32:23
Subject: Necron New 9th Edition Codex Tactica: All Hail The Silent King
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Big Mek in Kustom Dragster with Soopa-Gun
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i actually like the plasmancer.
He's basically a smite-spammer that cant be countered. He doesnt really offer any synergy with other units which is a problem since like 99% of necron HQs are buffbots and its a highly contested slot, but its still amusing.
I really wish the warden wasnt an HQ. He really doesnt feel like he should be one.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/16 19:51:28
Subject: Necron New 9th Edition Codex Tactica: All Hail The Silent King
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Big Mek in Kustom Dragster with Soopa-Gun
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imo, if he was at the end of the movement phase for his abilities, he'd be significantly better.
Main issue is most of his use takes an entire turn to even matter.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/17 00:20:22
Subject: Necron New 9th Edition Codex Tactica: All Hail The Silent King
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Big Mek in Kustom Dragster with Soopa-Gun
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technically you can put SK in the aux detachment...
why would you ever do that though? Supreme Command is free, refunds a bat/pat cp cost, and if the unit going in there didnt have Agent denying the Dynasty Codes already he'd get them.
Theres 0 reason to put him in an aux superheavy and several to NOT put him in there.
Aux superheavy is one of the big reasons LoWs are so hard to use atm.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/18 15:17:35
Subject: Necron New 9th Edition Codex Tactica: All Hail The Silent King
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Big Mek in Kustom Dragster with Soopa-Gun
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i think reapers are generally better, but flayers arent worthless. I wouldnt assemble every warrior with reapers, just a majority. i have 70 warriors, im doing 20 flayers.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2020/10/18 15:18:09
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/19 17:58:58
Subject: Necron New 9th Edition Codex Tactica: All Hail The Silent King
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Big Mek in Kustom Dragster with Soopa-Gun
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Yeah, i'd agree hes about 100pts overpriced.
Purely because he degrades like a mofo. Who else in this game degrades that severely?
He goes from 6+4+3 attacks of 3 pretty strong profiles + 2 BIG guns +2 pretty powerful auras to 2 attacks barely better than an Overlord's swing, loses the big guns, and loses 2 auras.
Seriously, that is right up there with the Titans' 4-5 degrading brackets level of stupid. All other degrading units still have something useful to offer when degraded severely, he's literally an overlord at that point with higher toughness and a single deny.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/20 13:16:16
Subject: Necron New 9th Edition Codex Tactica: All Hail The Silent King
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Big Mek in Kustom Dragster with Soopa-Gun
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personally i feel trying to use FW after a codex got a massive overhaul like this is unwise.
Either the unit is broken and doesnt work right because it hasnt been updated to follow the codex, or is broken because its in this weird in-between phase and is hyper powerful because of it.
And since we know new FW books are imminent thats why they havnt been faq'd to fix anything. Usually they release a faq for such a thing, like when ork codex dropped they faq'd the FW stuff enough to not cause any glaring issues.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/20 15:41:22
Subject: Necron New 9th Edition Codex Tactica: All Hail The Silent King
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Big Mek in Kustom Dragster with Soopa-Gun
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For the two different repair "abilities" discussion, i present to you...Admech..
Every single one of their dudes that can repair have the same exact name for the ability, but its got 3 different ways its worded. largest glaring issue is the Datasmith's for some reason only works on robots, despite being the same ability that normally is just admech for D3 and nonadmech for 1.
Also, Explodes! - almsot all of them are not given special titles, just explode, yet do different things.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/20 15:52:42
Subject: Necron New 9th Edition Codex Tactica: All Hail The Silent King
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Big Mek in Kustom Dragster with Soopa-Gun
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Ah, if its not literally the same name on the rule thats different. Otherwise Rites and Ghost Ark's ability wouldnt stack either. Same effect (on warriors anyway) but different name and Rites has an extra bit on it.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2020/10/20 15:53:11
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/20 17:34:37
Subject: Necron New 9th Edition Codex Tactica: All Hail The Silent King
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Big Mek in Kustom Dragster with Soopa-Gun
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actually the silent king is an enigma. He DOES have the dynasty keyword, specifically the Szarekhan one. The fact that he's also an Agent is both useful and irritating (useful because he can be used in any dynasty and annoying because he doesnt get Szarekhan bonuses, depsite the keyword being there) The other agents (i.e. Triarch Stalker) do not have a dynasty at all so cannot be repaired if the repair is looking for one.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2020/10/20 17:35:00
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/20 18:19:14
Subject: Necron New 9th Edition Codex Tactica: All Hail The Silent King
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Big Mek in Kustom Dragster with Soopa-Gun
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Thats something that needs a faq. Off hand, i'd say no because it just says he uses the top bracket. The rule that makes him lose the 2 auras and extra attacks is technically not bracket related.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2020/10/20 18:19:24
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/21 16:20:57
Subject: Necron New 9th Edition Codex Tactica: All Hail The Silent King
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Big Mek in Kustom Dragster with Soopa-Gun
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RP specifically says they dont count when factoring morale.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/22 23:30:52
Subject: Necron New 9th Edition Codex Tactica: All Hail The Silent King
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Big Mek in Kustom Dragster with Soopa-Gun
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I do think one stalker is kinda needed in most lists.
Heatray is a good gun and anything it doesnt kill just got easier to kill. And its durable enough to be pretty difficult to take down cheaply.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/23 13:04:15
Subject: Necron New 9th Edition Codex Tactica: All Hail The Silent King
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Big Mek in Kustom Dragster with Soopa-Gun
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The only way youre having 3 planes now is with 2 detachments.
Not sure if i'd want to do that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/23 15:27:59
Subject: Necron New 9th Edition Codex Tactica: All Hail The Silent King
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Big Mek in Kustom Dragster with Soopa-Gun
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Nope its gone.
They dont want people spamming planes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/23 16:48:52
Subject: Necron New 9th Edition Codex Tactica: All Hail The Silent King
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Big Mek in Kustom Dragster with Soopa-Gun
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My issue with the gauss on the stalker is its D3D.
Its not strong enough to reliably kill big models
Its not enough shots to clear chaff
And the D3D will commonly "waste shots" against 2-3W low toughness models.
If that cannon was 2D, or more expensive but 3D, i'd take it over the heatray in a heartbeat.
I hate D3D and i wish they'd stop giving weapons that profile.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/23 20:41:24
Subject: Necron New 9th Edition Codex Tactica: All Hail The Silent King
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Big Mek in Kustom Dragster with Soopa-Gun
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Veil is Core locked, not infantry.
I kinda wish it was infantry, since that would allow it to move destroyers.
But TombBlades are core so they can be veil'd
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/23 20:58:28
Subject: Necron New 9th Edition Codex Tactica: All Hail The Silent King
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Big Mek in Kustom Dragster with Soopa-Gun
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oh im definitely never doing it.
Theres no reason to veil Tomeblades. Theyre fast, have good reach, and 0 reason to be in near-melee or melee distances.
Reaper warriorss do. Lychguard do. Either would be great even if you just brough the relic and didnt stockpile the shenanigans with it lol.
Tombblades i want nearby the overlord or CCB because they benefit from MWBD quite nicely.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/24 13:10:17
Subject: Necron New 9th Edition Codex Tactica: All Hail The Silent King
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Big Mek in Kustom Dragster with Soopa-Gun
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No you dont have to pay CP for the overwatch ability.
Its an ability which says "You can fire overwatch" - codex > big rulebook. It also says "this is in addition to any other unit firing overwatch" which is 100% impossible if you still have to use the stratagem.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/25 17:56:13
Subject: Necron New 9th Edition Codex Tactica: All Hail The Silent King
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Big Mek in Kustom Dragster with Soopa-Gun
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Its only really a question because he has the Szarekhan tag as well as the Dyanstic Agent one.
No other Agent has a dyansty tag. At all. It serves virtually no purpose, all it allows since hes not a core or canoptek is he can be healed by a Szarekhan spider and he can use the Szarekhan strat, since iirc thats just looking for the dynasty tag and not infantry (could be wrong on that part i dont feel like digging it up atm).
Its just really weird for GW to give him the tag. Hence, the confusion. Its pretty clear RAW, but still causes questions just because its different from the other agents.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/28 15:59:22
Subject: Necron New 9th Edition Codex Tactica: All Hail The Silent King
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Big Mek in Kustom Dragster with Soopa-Gun
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i fail to see how only one cryptek can attempt it period.
They removed that core rule restriction of only one unit can attempt a given action per turn.
The "one friendly cryptek unit" bit at the beginning isnt a limiter. GW always puts disclaimers at the end of such rules saying "You may only attempt this..." if its supposed to be restrictive.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/29 02:25:30
Subject: Necron New 9th Edition Codex Tactica: All Hail The Silent King
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Big Mek in Kustom Dragster with Soopa-Gun
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Theres that too.
They become separate units, thus each rule is unique to that unit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/29 17:36:58
Subject: Necron New 9th Edition Codex Tactica: All Hail The Silent King
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Big Mek in Kustom Dragster with Soopa-Gun
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i m really hoping the Tomb Sentinel is good because i wanna make a trio of them with wraith boxes lol
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