Solidcrash wrote:You missing one more - just base without model.
I did play with other player who use just coins and base. Bit weird but nice man and we play till end.
Well, it was not meant to be a comprehensive list.
Oddly, I mind the base without model less than base with model and no arms... weird of me.
So now we could compare this to playing checkers.
If the person is decent enough about things exceptions can be made because it is also a social hobby.
Automatically Appended Next Post: wulfbrigade wrote:Heres the thing, I like the modeling aspect and I can say Im a good painter, but the mathhammer guys talk to me on game night and tell me the most clever tactics to try . Im like, "dang I never thought of that" then I try this tactic and BAM it works!!
Then there's the guy who is a good painter AND wins games...we secretly hate that guy.

You are seeing the good side of "competitive players".
They follow the rules to a sharp edge so their game is a truly intellectual thing and yes, stuff they see in the rules works.
Their stuff tends to be "grey" lately because nothing in the rules says they have to be painted.
I would see those guys with very "good" painted armies back in the day where the first rule in a
GW tournament was to have a fully painted army and they proceed to outline what that is.
They want something photogenic to advertise as a cool game.
At the very least, few could argue that the better ambassador for the game in getting people's interest is nicely painted models not the great "gray legion".