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 LunarSol wrote:

 Geifer wrote:
Out of curiosity, GW has stated multiple times that the cardboard terrain footprints are printed on both sides, but did they ever show the non-city side? I assume it's glorious brown dirt so your trees don't have to grow out of the sidewalk, but do we actually know?

I think its probably the same on both sides. There's a few missions that seem to have inverted the triangles so I think they'd need to be.

Oh, are we pretending that the minuscule differences in those shapes are a noticeable balancing factor? Alright then. I guess in that case it makes sense to have the same print on each side, even if it's a wasted opportunity and totally lame.

 Geifer wrote:

 LunarSol wrote:

 Geifer wrote:
Out of curiosity, GW has stated multiple times that the cardboard terrain footprints are printed on both sides, but did they ever show the non-city side? I assume it's glorious brown dirt so your trees don't have to grow out of the sidewalk, but do we actually know?

I think its probably the same on both sides. There's a few missions that seem to have inverted the triangles so I think they'd need to be.

Oh, are we pretending that the minuscule differences in those shapes are a noticeable balancing factor? Alright then. I guess in that case it makes sense to have the same print on each side, even if it's a wasted opportunity and totally lame.

I don't disagree, just what I'm expecting. The triangles are fairly significantly different (4.5") so it definitely matters but I'm not entirely convinced it SHOULD and having different styles on each side would be significantly more useful. I'm guessing we'll see a new set each year with the latest campaign them though.


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Space Marine detachments up. Can't say I'm instantly in love with the design, but part of that is how disorganized its gotten with all of the chapter specific detachments. The thing that initially got to me was the lack of 2 DP design, though that seems largely because they beta tested it with that last drop of detachments.

What it means, that I find disappointing, is that it looks like this feature is basically just that there's no design difference between 3 DP and 2 DP. It looks like its just a matter of slapping 3 DP on the competitive stuff and letting players augment the weaker options with some very narrow 1 DP bonuses. It's functional, but definitely not taking advantage of the potential this system has.

Also as a personal gripe; the only Deathwatch detachment being 3 DP locks me out of my preferred 1k games. They even nerfed the main thing that made it work (in a way that should have been done immediately).

So the Warhammer 40K: Core Rules are $24.99, but the Chapter Approved Mission Deck is $34.99?

Ugh.

 Lathe Biosas wrote:
So the Warhammer 40K: Core Rules are $24.99, but the Chapter Approved Mission Deck is $34.99?

Ugh.

The core rules are also free online. If they priced them too aggressively, they would not move.

Aside from switching some characters to support and deleting a few instances of AIRCRAFT (called it!), did much else change? It's hard to tell since the Balance Dataslate changes are rolled in.

Also, I'm slightly amused that Emperor's Children still can't take any Heresy-era units.

 BorderCountess wrote:
Aside from switching some characters to support and deleting a few instances of AIRCRAFT (called it!), did much else change? It's hard to tell since the Balance Dataslate changes are rolled in.

Also, I'm slightly amused that Emperor's Children still can't take any Heresy-era units.

EC probably won't get Heresy stuff, but this batch of rules only applies to loyalist marines.

There's not a lot of changes from what I can tell. They fixed the Watch Master's second source of free CP but I don't see any changes to things like Plasma Pistols or anything like that.

 Lathe Biosas wrote:
So the Warhammer 40K: Core Rules are $24.99, but the Chapter Approved Mission Deck is $34.99?

Ugh.

Man, it seems like everything isn't a one-time purchase for this game...
I just want to play, and every time I turn around, I need another thing. Codexes, so I can just learn how my army plays that get replaced in a few months, new Mission cards ect. Are there any Community Resources that have information on these things that I can use instead of having to pay another $200 so I can just start playing?
are codexs is necessary for me to actually learn how to play my army?
Like, basically a free ork codex for just rules made by the community, so I don't have to buy one that gets outdated in just a few months?




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I was kind of hoping the new orc codexs would come out sooner than later, but I was planning on starting to really get into playing the game this summer, and don't want to have to spend $140 in a single year just for rules.

 Dysartes wrote:

ccs wrote:
Only assuming you don't know how to use the internet....

One should not need to sail the high seas in order to have missions to play the game with.

Sure, you can hoist the Jolly Roger.

You can also just shop online...

There are a few places out there with the information from the codexes. One was mentioned in this thread not far back. There are also a number of list builders, like new recruit, that might not have 100% of the army rules, but would have enough for you to test out some lists and get some basic games in. Some stores/clubs also might have libraries of books to borrow.

The Armageddon box itself has the cards for the units in it to play. Beyond that New Recruit is a good free resource and a lot of people use Wahapedia. Definitely wouldn't pick up the current codex if you're just getting started. It will absolutely get a refresh soon.

 LunarSol wrote:
The Armageddon box itself has the cards for the units in it to play. Beyond that New Recruit is a good free resource and a lot of people use Wahapedia. Definitely wouldn't pick up the current codex if you're just getting started. It will absolutely get a refresh soon.

Have GW hinted at how quickly the codexes will be released for 11th? I'm assuming it will be a similar release schedule to 10th, so all 11th codexes will be out in about 2 years.

Depending on when a particular codex is released (GW aren't going to announce the entire order of releases now) if you buy one now it could last you 2 years. Which isn't a massive amount of time but about as long as any codex gets these days.

 Nevelon wrote:
There are a few places out there with the information from the codexes. One was mentioned in this thread not far back. There are also a number of list builders, like new recruit, that might not have 100% of the army rules, but would have enough for you to test out some lists and get some basic games in. Some stores/clubs also might have libraries of books to borrow.

thanks for the advice! I just used a new recruit to build out my army list from my 1000 Point ork army.

The stupid Warhammer 40,000 companion app won't let me see data sheets without having a codex. So I just built my list in there and then exported the text into a Google doc and then used that to rebuild my list in new recruit, which is way better than the companion app!


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El Torro wrote:

 LunarSol wrote:
The Armageddon box itself has the cards for the units in it to play. Beyond that New Recruit is a good free resource and a lot of people use Wahapedia. Definitely wouldn't pick up the current codex if you're just getting started. It will absolutely get a refresh soon.

Have GW hinted at how quickly the codexes will be released for 11th? I'm assuming it will be a similar release schedule to 10th, so all 11th codexes will be out in about 2 years.

Depending on when a particular codex is released (GW aren't going to announce the entire order of releases now) if you buy one now it could last you 2 years. Which isn't a massive amount of time but about as long as any codex gets these days.

I can't cite any sources, but I do remember reading about some people on here saying it looked like it might be around October-November when they release the 11th edition ork codex

Given they're in the big box, SM and Orks are most likely going to be the first two 'dex books released.

If we look at the release dates for various books during the early days of 8/9/10th editions, the latest the launch box factions have their books is October.

I don't recall Grey Knights being as early in the edition as listed on that page, though, but it has been a few years now.

Sorry, for some reason I didn't figure out we were talking about the Ork codex specifically. I agree that it will be either the first or second codex to be released in 11th, simply because they're one of the factions in the launch box.

I certainly wouldn't spend money on a 10th edition Ork codex now. Even a second hand one will be a lot cheaper when the 11th codex launches.

Mrangryork wrote:
Am I assuming you mean Codex's. And if so, I do think that would be nice, or if they offered slimmed down versions for free download. I kind of feel like I shouldn't have to pay $70 just to get stuff specified for what my army does.

Codices is the plural of Codex.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/codex

 SgtEeveell wrote:

Mrangryork wrote:
Am I assuming you mean Codex's. And if so, I do think that would be nice, or if they offered slimmed down versions for free download. I kind of feel like I shouldn't have to pay $70 just to get stuff specified for what my army does.

Codices is the plural of Codex.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/codex

Ah. my bad.

Alrighty, did some cleaning, gave some people a timeout, if you'll excuse me, I have some emails to write and case files to update.

Thanks for the reports and thanks for not getting involved, made cleaning easier, love you guys~

That said.. let's stay on topic, let's stay civil or so help me..

Given the comments on Warhammer Community when the 30k Custards were shown off, I’d be surprised if they’re not an early 11th Ed Codex as well.

Hopefully Guard as well, those new vehicles and characters need rules out in the open stat, unless they're in the FAQ?

That’s true.

 BrookM wrote:
Hopefully Guard as well, those new vehicles and characters need rules out in the open stat, unless they're in the FAQ?

I'm sure they already are?

 Sgt_Smudge wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
Hopefully Guard as well, those new vehicles and characters need rules out in the open stat, unless they're in the FAQ?

I'm sure they already are?

So they are, that's a relief.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Given the comments on Warhammer Community when the 30k Custards were shown off, I’d be surprised if they’re not an early 11th Ed Codex as well.

Hopefully not. I'd also be surprised if their new toys don't even make Legends due to something like 'scarcity'.

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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Given the comments on Warhammer Community when the 30k Custards were shown off, I’d be surprised if they’re not an early 11th Ed Codex as well.

They said they would have one later this year.

☆Maybe they are waiting for the new plastic Telemon Dreadnought that's been rumored (and featured in the new Detachment).

If they can just do a combat patrol box of nothing but Custard Cream Dreadnoughts I'll be happy.

Its just one job you have GW...I believe in you. You've got this.

 BrookM wrote:
Hopefully Guard as well, those new vehicles and characters need rules out in the open stat, unless they're in the FAQ?

Right here: https://assets.warhammer-community.com/eng_06-05_wh40k_faction_pack_astra_militarum-kxlmmwpxfk-kauuyhnusx.pdf