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I go for real green stuff too,

superglue (& pin if it's a big bit) then fill in any small gaps, and texture the surface to match the surroundings

 Alpharius wrote:
I still amazed at the level of excitement and anticipation I have for this Kickstarter/Miniature Range/Game.

It really has been a long time since anything has piqued my interest to this degree.

Which, of course, means I'm in serious withdrawal right now for new/updates/previews/etc. !

Luckily, Friday's tend to be update day's. They lesson the withdrawal symptoms

Oh, and as for filler, I tend to use milliput mixed with water - works nicely. This is a really useful tutorial on gap filling:
http://massivevoodoo.blogspot.co.uk/2009/10/tutorial-filling-gaps-with-milliput.html

 Alpharius wrote:
judgedoug - that sounds completely legitimate and justifiable to me!

What does everyone use to fill in the slight but seemingly inevitable gaps on these models?

Is there one putty that reigns supreme over all others?

And it can't be...Liquid Greenstuff, can it?!?

I'm mostly with judgedoug on this, if the join covers a texture area, ordinary GS is fine, if I encounter small hairlines in smooth surfaces (like flesh) or bubbles or other surface imperfections, Vallejo plastic putty is a really useful tool.

Is plastic putty similar to squadron green?

 cincydooley wrote:
Is plastic putty similar to squadron green?

I'm not totally familiar with squadron green, but after a quick google, I'd say no. The plastic putty is a mix of plastic powder, titanium white pigment and acrylic medium, so it comes in a traditional Vallejo bottle and handles very much like a slightly thick acrylic paint, which is what makes it so good for filling small seams, as you can put it on with a brush, and simply smooth the excess away with your finger to some appropriate tool.

These are super handy for that sort of work:
https://store.opusartsupplies.com/sagro/storefront/store.php?mode=browsecategory&category=481

Should be able to find them at any art supply stores (do we still have art supply stores?).

Is it just me or does liquid green stuff shrink on contact with paint?

On an unrelated, but OT note, the Mierce site appears to be down. Presumably while Rob wrestles with setting up the pledge manager thing.

I'm hoping that the KS1 Gorgonares starter is still available once my KS2 money appears...


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Joyboozer wrote:
Is it just me or does liquid green stuff shrink on contact with paint?

As in, if you paint cured liquid green stuff, it shrinks?

Looks like they have the First Edition section live but are still adding the KS Pledge Credit. I do not see Encounter hosts listed either.

 Baragash wrote:
The Mierce figures I currently own are old enough to have square bases not the standard 30mm round ones

Unfortunately I got burned by the Maelstrom collapse so I had to stay on the sidelines for the first KS, but they demonstrated they got it together so I was happy to shovel them a few buckets of cash on this one.

Ditto - I've got Erec One-Arm (Dwarf Standard bearer) and Aanchuth (Gabrax Warlock) kicking around here that I should really get around to painting at some point.

Warchild40k about 10 hours ago

@Michael Yes there was some rough initial artwork for our first descendant:
http://www.mierce-miniatures.com/ks2/ieuan_longshore.jpg

Anyone else finding the site is borked?

I'm sure it's just updates for the Pledge Manager, but I can't even access the Fomoraic section to reference a pic for model assembly!

Don't they know who I am?!!!

Same thing happened yesterday, didn't it?

Almost 100% related to getting the KS2 stuff up and running...

Yeah, MM said that they were getting the database stuff sorted today with a view to getting things live this evening. Should be sorted soonish I'd expect.

 Alpharius wrote:
Same thing happened yesterday, didn't it?

Almost 100% related to getting the KS2 stuff up and running...

I'm sure it is, it just struck me as odd as it isn't KS related stuff, its items that are on general sale (and have been for a while) which means that plebs, sorry, I mean non-KS backers, aren't able to order them either.

Yup, running this sort of adaptations (and the shenanigans we had yesterday with sql queries showing as plaintext here and there) on a live production environment isn't exactly best practices, from what I hear. Feh, they probably know what they're doing though, I guess

I did see Rob admit in the KS that he is aware that the site isn't great, but doesn't have the time or expertise to do much about it.

I actually dislike the layout, presentation and ergonomics of the thing so much, I'd volunteer to redesign it, but my skills on the Internet are pretty much limited to posting gak on it, so don't really have the know how.

 azreal13 wrote:
I did see Rob admit in the KS that he is aware that the site isn't great, but doesn't have the time or expertise to do much about it.

I actually dislike the layout, presentation and ergonomics of the thing so much, I'd volunteer to redesign it, but my skills on the Internet are pretty much limited to posting gak on it, so don't really have the know how.

I agree that the site definitely needs a redesign - and on top of that, it runs painfully slow for me too...

Still, awesome miniatures right?

Yeah, not that you can see pics of them in half the slots on the site! Concept art where it exists in place of "no image available" would improve the whole thing exponentially, but I do appreciate the time involved is better spent in making awesome models and rules for us to play with them.

I guess, much like a woman, if the end product is attractive enough, it is worth going to a bit of effort!

Guys,
I've been messing with the site all day basically, which is why there's been some errors. I don't have enough time to set up a test server (i.e., local, not live) - which is why you see PHP or SQL debugging when I make major changes to the website - and also why access was slightly crazy today. That's all sorted now though.

As for the website itself, it works and that's about it. It's all about time, to be honest. I wish there were 48 hours in a day!

Regardless, the website's all back up now and should work fine for you all, next on the list is to give KS2 backers access, which will take a couple of hours.

Doug, just mail me dude.

Cheers

I am an IT Director, so if Mierce ever wants some redesign I could work for credit

The first step is to create indices on all the fields that are queried on. That will usually be the biggest speed increase. Even a single field that is queried against without an index can slow down a query exponentially. If indices do exist, rebuilding them helps.

That kind of language makes even less sense than most Darklands monster names!

But it fits perfectly in the Darklands theme! When I read what judgedoug writes, it makes me want to grab an axe and smack him over the head with it, like your average caveman. That's totally Darklandish!

 judgedoug wrote:
I am an IT Director, so if Mierce ever wants some redesign I could work for credit

The first step is to create indices on all the fields that are queried on. That will usually be the biggest speed increase. Even a single field that is queried against without an index can slow down a query exponentially. If indices do exist, rebuilding them helps.

I largely understood this. It makes me feel strange and afraid.

 Alpharius wrote:
That kind of language makes even less sense than most Darklands monster names!

nah, it's simple! an index on a table field is just like an index in a book. so when you tell the database to find the records in a table that match a certain field condition, instead of the database engine looking through every record and taking forever, it looks in the index first and sees exactly where it needs to go!

Sadly I understand it all too well...

Yea, to be honest Doug I haven't rebuilt indices for a long while, probably since the last Kickstarter. There's just so much else to do!

Pledge Management will happen tomorrow now guys, I'm bloody knackered.

Cheers

I was kidding!

Still, axes for everyone!

 judgedoug wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
That kind of language makes even less sense than most Darklands monster names!

nah, it's simple! an index on a table field is just like an index in a book. so when you tell the database to find the records in a table that match a certain field condition, instead of the database engine looking through every record and taking forever, it looks in the index first and sees exactly where it needs to go!

And lo, did an unholy mist descend upon the land, and the air was filled with the terrible screeching of Indexes and the abominable rumbling of the Database Engine. Only then did Llewellyn Ap BunsenByrner look out on to his lands and see that they were lost forever, for the field conditions were treacherous indeed. Stalwart in the face of insurmountable odds he girded himself for war, assembled his loyal Morrysdan Seers and prepared to make the Dynness pay in blood for their error.

Mierce Miniatures wrote:
Sadly I understand it all too well...

Yea, to be honest Doug I haven't rebuilt indices for a long while, probably since the last Kickstarter. There's just so much else to do!

Pledge Management will happen tomorrow now guys, I'm bloody knackered.

Cheers

if you ever need someone to take a look at your database structure, lemme know! my main work hat is database admin.

He's a witch!


Anywho...

While watching the 'official' Darklands gameplay video, I heard how "Mierce" was 'officially' pronounced.

And I was shocked!