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Made in ca
Regular Dakkanaut




Hey guys thanks for all your input to my stealer shock list. I came in around top 3 for best general out of 40 players. 2 victorious slaughters 1 normal defeat and 1 tie.

I ran the following list.

Hive Tyrant
Enhanced Senses
Toxin Sacs
2 Twin Linked Devs
WS +1
Wings
Warp Field
Total 200

Carnifex
Enhanced Senses
Venom Cannon
Barbed Strangler
Total 148

Carnifex
Enhanced Senses
Venom Cannon
Barbed Strangler
Total 148

Carnifex
Enhanced Senses
Venom Cannon
Barbed Strangler
Total 148

Ravenor w Rending + Scything 40
Ravenor w Rending + Scything 40
Ravenor w Rending + Scything 40

8 Gene Stealers w Scuttle + Flesh hooks 160
8 Gene Stealers w Scuttle + Flesh hooks 160
8 Gene Stealers w Scuttle + Flesh hooks 160
8 Gene Stealers w Scuttle 152
8 Gene Stealers w Scuttle 152
8 Gene Stealers w Scuttle 152

Grand Total 1700

My loss was to the best general who ran 2 princes and a greater demons, w lash, nurgle, oblits and korn bezerkers. He would run his troops away from my stealers and lash a single brood of stealers towards himself and destroy it completely, This meant I was only catching up to him with my fleet rolls and I had 18" to cover. Basically by the time I got to him I only had 1 squad of stealers and my Ravs against his princes + his korne etc.

My tie game was against sisters of battle, many many many ap 5 weapons (flamers and bolters). This battle may convince me to put carapace on my stealers.

Basically the list does very well. The Ravs are fantastic as they individually present such a small threat everyone concentrates on the stealers. Meaning my Ravs almost always get in.

The flesh hooks did not do much, I am still trying to figure out what to do with the spare 20pts or so I have kicking around in the list I may take Yaks advice and put in implant attack and acid maw though I think it makes the wing rant a bit pricey.

Lessons learned. If an opponent can move away from your assault elements and still shoot at you (by lashing one brood closer and or using the obliterators range) you will have a hard time defeating them with any fleet based assault list.

If you fight a really smart rhino player they can just put squads in the rhinos and run them 12' and double flamer your stealers to zog, leaving the rhinos that can only be hit on 6s to hit and only glanced/penetrated on 6s to wound. (My fexs had their hands full with the enemies exorcists.)

Over all I am happy with my armies performance. I think stealer shock is a very powerful list if not as dominating in every situation as Nid Zillia. However it is always more fun to play stealer shock than nidzillia as you will always take lots of casualties and the game always looks in doubt till after turn 2 or 3.

This message was edited 4 times. Last update was at 2008/02/16 19:58:00


 
   
Made in us
Longtime Dakkanaut





Who was your victorious slaughter against? Also, was your loss in the first round, second round or last round?

Seems likely you VS'd the first game, matched up with Chaos in round 2 and then tied the Sisters in round 3.

Also, has the Lash inspired your to put the counter-psyker power on your tyrant?

All in all, fact is that Warhammer 40K has never been as balanced as it is now, and codex releases have never been as interesting as they are now (new units and vehicles and tons of new special rules/strategies each release -- not just the same old crap with a few changes in statlines and points costs).

-Therion
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New Codexia's Finest Hour - my fluff about the change between codexes, roughly novel length. 
   
Made in ca
Regular Dakkanaut




Hey 40k.

My Slaughters where against a blood angles assault list. I have a buddy at my club who plays a similar list I have never lost to him with my stealer shock. Gene stealers are simply that much better in assault than Blood angles and Fex's are perfect for killing Death Company.

My Other slaughter was against an all nurgle army. No enough bolters to kill my stealers and rending ignores FNP. Also my opponent had some of the worst dice rolls I have ever seen.

My loss came in the 3rd game. and My tie with the sisters in the last.

No the Lash has not inspiered me to put up anti psyker powers. Shadow in the warp is one of the weakest anti psy powers in the game. Roll 3 dice take the 2 highest is not even close to as good as a psy hood or the eldar warp stones. My plan for lash is to make my dakka rant better in CC and go demon hunting. also to concentrate all fex fire on the lash demon first turn and keep hitting him till he dies. Enough str 8 and 10 weapons will take him down even if he gets his 3+ save vs all of them.
   
Made in us
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.................................... Searching for Iscandar

It's one of the worst...can you explain how the Eldar anti-psyker defense works please?

I need to understand.

   
Made in us
Longtime Dakkanaut






Getting my broom incase there is shenanigans.

Stelek wrote:It's one of the worst...can you explain how the Eldar anti-psyker defense works please?

I need to understand.


Eldar have one on the best anti-psyker defenses in the game.

Take a psykic test on 3D6 and take a perils of the warp on a roll of 12+.


Not only does this shut down psykic powers 50% of the time. Models with one wound will not attempt powers for fear of Perils, and after taking a wound most other psykers will not attempt another.


 
   
Made in ca
Regular Dakkanaut




Exactly what blackmoor said. Roll 3 and take the highest 2 is not nearly as good as roll 3 and add them...
   
Made in us
Ancient Chaos Terminator




South Pasadena

What was this event that you participated in? Where?

Darrian

 
   
Made in ca
Regular Dakkanaut




The War on Cancer. A charity RTT in Edmonton Alberta.

Due to a computer glitch I am not sure of my exact standing. I think I placed well for best general though.
   
Made in au
Longtime Dakkanaut






Brisbane/Australia

Seems like a great list. Genestealers are bad news in anyone's book.

Carnie's are the same.

Hate Raveners(?)

I would love to play a game against you with that list.

60 Tac Marines with 'Counter-Assault' and 'True Grit' in Drop pods.(Me4lta gun, Sarge with PF & Bolter)

And a few more CC nasties thrown in to 1750.

I love beating 'Nids in CC.

*sigh* Works every time........................


Good on you Sir for the Charity event. IMO even if you came last, you were still a Winner.

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