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Well i was wondering how to make topless space marines...maybe marauder torsos and normal marine arms come on guys lets get some ides flowing...

I thought marines were 'fused' to their armour?

But I think marauders are gona be closest you can get!

Marines can take their armour off. The armour is directly interfaced to their bodies through the black carapace fused to their chest. So a topless marine would have jacks and plugs implanted in their body that are visible on the skin.

I'd recommend this focus on Sisters of Battle rather than Space Marines.

groz wrote:I'd recommend this focus on Sisters of Battle rather than Space Marines.

My thoughts exactly. And I'd go GS, although making females is READ THE RULES hard.

(I gather that's some sort of Dakka-specific profanity)

marauders would be cool since theyre so buff but the trick is going to be finding a torso that matches up with marine legs decently.

I've done some crucified marines (stripped to the waist, bare arms) using the marauder torsos and catachan arms (a mate wanted some for his grisly chaos trophies but didn't know how to start) and a screaming (bald) marauder head.

If I was doing some more, I'd probably also remove the armour from one leg as well.

Show up at the battle fortress with some baby oil and offer sensual massages.

The Black Carapace is a membrane fused to their skin, not just jacks and such, though those are part of it. It would look like they were wearing a black wetsuit under their armor. They've shown it in some of the comic books.

According to fluff which hasn't changed (even if GW insist on not printing most of it any more), the Black carapace is still a subdermal implant, and therefore won't physically show at the epidermal level. Comic book or no, it cannot be both a subdermal and epidermal layer at the same time.

The torso of a marine will however look different to a normal unaugmented human due to their other implants, notably the phase 2 Ossmodula, which encourages bone growth and extreme ossification of the ribcage to the point where it becomes a series of overlapping bony plates under the skin, instead of a cage, adding extra protection to the internal organs.

I don't even want to know why you want to model such a thing...

UMMMMM... i dont know what your implying

I want to model them topless as there for a freinds space wolve army! and he ask me to do the conversion work.
Also about this black layer if it cant come off how did the dude from the soul drinkers take of his armour HA!

My take, it's under the skin, so it shouldn't show.
There are sockets in the skin (Y'know, kinda like "the matrix") to plug the armour into their CNS.

GWs take doesn't matter, they'll change it again when it suits them, and will probably be made of retro-genetically engineered tyranid gene-plasm next.

Much of the stuff in th BL novels should be taken with a truckload of salt. They tell them that they have to have things thus and so, but then let them play around. It's called "artistic license" and is generally abused.

chromedog wrote:My take, it's under the skin, so it shouldn't show.
There are sockets in the skin (Y'know, kinda like "the matrix") to plug the armour into their CNS.

GWs take doesn't matter, they'll change it again when it suits them, and will probably be made of retro-genetically engineered tyranid gene-plasm next.

Much of the stuff in th BL novels should be taken with a truckload of salt. They tell them that they have to have things thus and so, but then let them play around. It's called "artistic license" and is generally abused.

AFAIK the black library authors always describe it as a black carapace "showing through the skin". So im pretty positive that it is in fact implanted under the skin with plugs and such poking through

mattyboy22 wrote:Show up at the battle fortress with some baby oil and offer sensual massages.

I hope they have 2-on-2 beach volleyball aboard the space fortresses. That would be p hot.

groz wrote:I'd recommend this focus on Sisters of Battle rather than Space Marines.

Hurrr girls.

Get them drunk.

ok well forgetting FLUFF from guys that tried making squats sound awesome...... just use some half naked catachan bodies or something from fantasy maybe that is muscly. and go from there. make sure they have the plugs tho, but personally trying to make some weird black thing weather its under the skin, showing, friggin pink with bright yellow squares on it.... forget all that. just make a muscle bound badass SM
i swear you guys OVER COMPLICATE things. let the crazy fanatics grumble about it not being background approved

could you do them in body building competition poses?!

and cover their flesh with glossy varnish, just like those guyz in the competion.

also if you could GS one of the man boobs a bit upward. you know like he was flexing those man boobs!!

I am entirely creeped out by this thread....nicely done.

The original subject of the thread, however, doesn't creep me out as much as the fact that there is actually discussion about what a naked SM looks like, and that some of you have actually pondered, with fluff and sources to back you up, the way their transformation into SM effect their bodies. Yeah, sure I've read the books, and the codecies, and know that they transform. But I don't think that I ever sat there thinking..."Oh, ok, so the Subcutaneous Chupacabraloid shifts his nipple three inches down and inverts it, making a plug for the armor to attach to the carapace, which is either outside or inside his body...and the Hemmoraging Cerebral Mountandewinoid gives him a case in stead of six-pack, so that his 42 other organs we add have room in his refridgerator of a chest!!!"
Nope...I pretty much am content with the knowledge that they have changed...it like I don't really care to know the process of slaughtering a cow....just bring me a ribeye!!!


Seriously dude, Marauders would work...

I am entirely creeped out by this thread

Why? They're space marines. If you can't accept the fact that space marines ARE the premiere example of the "perfect (homoerotic) man", you don't "get" space marines. That's what they are.

could you do them in body building competition poses?!

and cover their flesh with glossy varnish, just like those guyz in the competion.

I like this idea. The problem here is that while this fits space marines, space marines also shout a lot - it defines them. You can't really have them dynamically shouting and posing at the same time.

So guys lets not make this thread homoerotic!

and nicely said! guy with the space wolves avatar (crap with names)

Do you think i could egt way with using the armourd arms kinda like gladiators when they had their armoured sleeves also the seragent could have unaurmored arms as he want to show hes badass

da-chaos-orks wrote:UMMMMM... i dont know what your implying

I want to model them topless as there for a freinds space wolve army! and he ask me to do the conversion work.
Also about this black layer if it cant come off how did the dude from the soul drinkers take of his armour HA!

The same reason that one of the Soul Drinkers skin becomes completely see through. It's called blessings of Chaos. Think of the Nurgle Marines that completely fuse to their armor, where skin and armor become impossible to tell apart.

Using a chapter that has succumbed to choas for an argument as to why armor reacts the way it does for a chapter that still follows the emperor is like asking why your hot dog doesn't taste like pork or beef.

da-chaos-orks wrote:So guys lets not make this thread homoerotic!

and nicely said! guy with the space wolves avatar (crap with names)

Do you think i could egt way with using the armourd arms kinda like gladiators when they had their armoured sleeves also the seragent could have unaurmored arms as he want to show hes badass

Look man, it's your army, you can do whatever the hades you like to really. If you think that will look cool, go ahead and do it. All you are gonna get from these monkeys is more homoerotic autobiography.. it's not the marines that they are talking about, but themselves..

My thoughts exactly. And I'd go GS, although making females is READ THE RULES hard.

Did the wrote it like that or was that Dakka?

CHEERS TWO HEADS!

and the whole chaos thing...u just wanted to steal my thunder!! lol

What a cool idea, I was inspired to try this from this thread, so I converted a topless Marine! Here it is:



Good luck.

ok so this may be weird a bit, but how about using savage orc models as the naked part of the body.

they'd look beefier than the normal human models. and with a few GS you could pull it off.

and what could be cool is that you model them like they were ripping their power armor off like they were Hulk Hogan!! and the plugs would still have cut wires in them and all.

just a thought!

I like Augustus's idea.

Right. Finally found it. Sorry for the size of the picture, but It was the only one I could find. This is an official image of an armorless space marine. Hope it helps.

I think thats a scout not a space marine.