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Painlord Titan Princeps of Slaanesh






Dallas, TX

Drop pods stop short of enemy models and impassible terrain.

What about table edges? Do they go right off, or is it counted as impassible terrain for the purposes of the drop pod's guidance system, thus stopping them 1" away?


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Sister Vastly Superior




Gig Harbor, WA

personally, if I were playing SM, I'd take it as a risk inherent in the tactic.

I would accept the dice gods decision if my pods scattered anywhere. impassible terrain, dangerous terrain test, fail and it crashes, units move to the nearest passible terrain within 2" or be lost.
Off table, drop pod is lost, transported units arrive next turn from that area
On enemy unit, that unit makes a backward tank shock check, pass to get out of the way, fail and get smushed.

that makes sense to me...

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Well the drop pod rules already take into account impassible terrain and enemy models - the drop pod stops its scatter 1" away from the rock face/enemy unit and then it lands.

I'm just wondering about off the table. Dangerous terrain test for impassible, tank shock for enemy units, and walking on the board the next turn from where it went off the board all sound reasonable and great, but none of those rules exist.

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well, a basic unit cant just walk into impassible terrain, and that unit also cant just walk off the board.
Therefore, I'd use the regular 1" away as if it were impassible.

of course you can use my proposed rules as a house rule, and make green pizzas out of a few orks

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Of course they can scatter off the table... can you find a rule that states otherwise?
   
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Gig Harbor, WA

Oh, silly me. drop pods use the deep strike rules, right?

if they do, then they roll on the "deepstrike mishap table" under the deepstrike entry if it were to happen...

too bad... I like the rules I thought of.

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A lot of people seem to believe that the board edges are impassable terrain. This is never actually stated anywhere, therefore the edge is NOT impassable terrain.

It is this that gives them the idea that pods therefore can't scatter off-table.

The edge isn't impassable (and the drop pod rules themselves specify what dangerous terrain/enemy models do, and don't say that it gives them a free ride against off-table scatter).so if it scatters off table, it's a deep strike mishap and rolls on the table.

This is covered in the deep strike rules, and covers units arriving by deep strike that would land off table, or on top of other models/impassable/dangerous terrain (the SM pods can ignore the models/terrain conditions (because their special rules specify these conditions), but if they are going to go off table, roll on that table, baby.

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Thanks!

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chromedog wrote:A lot of people seem to believe that the board edges are impassable terrain. This is never actually stated anywhere, therefore the edge is NOT impassable terrain.


I never heard of anyone thinking the table edge was 'Impassable' terrain, it's just ludicrous to assume such. With that logic, you'd never lose troops falling back off the table edge and technically you'd never be able to allow reserves to enter the game from the table edge either. But it's interesting to know, in case I ever come across it.

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Yup. Deep Strike Mishap, baby!

It's much gentler than the previous edition, in which scatter off table simply = dead. Now you've got two possible other results on the table!

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One more interesting, but wholely unlikely circumstance is: If for some god forsaken reason you place your drop pod closers than 1" to your foe, or where a hit would land you in impassible. You will also roll a mishap. The guidance system wording assumes you are trying to miss these obsticles and has no way of saving a player from stupid.

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chromedog wrote:A lot of people seem to believe that the board edges are impassable terrain. This is never actually stated anywhere, therefore the edge is NOT impassable terrain.



Well, there is this in the rulebook FAQ:

Q. Can models move off the table?
A. Not unless a rule or the mission being played
clearly specify that they can. All good wargamers
know that the edge of the table is the end of the
world!



Although it doesn't apply to Deep Strike scatter since those rules specifically tell us what happens when a unit scatters off the table, and it isn't strictly "movement" IMHO.





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I've always imagined all 40K battles occuring on top of a really tall mesa, so that anything scattering or falling back of the table does the little Wiley-Coyote fall into the distance followed by a puff of smoke.

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Edge of the world =/= impassable.

I offer as proof:
http://tsoalr.com/?p=546

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