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Made in ca
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This army is designed to kombat the Imperial Guard. Its centerpieces are the hated Biker Nobz led by Wazzdakka and a Battlewagon with a Big Kustom Force Field Mek to protect itself and the two Wartrukks flanking it.

The Gretchin are for hiding in the rear and the kannons will attempt to ward off any Hell Hounds or sentinels coming after said Gretchin.

The Deff Koptas will be placed on the board (as opposed to outflanking) in an attempt to kill Hell Hounds as fast as possible before they're destroyed.


'ead Kuarters: 305
Wazdakka Gutsmek: 180
Total: 180

Big Mek w/kustom Force Field: 85
Powerklaw: 25
Bosspole: 5
Cyborky: 10
Total: 125

Da Boyz: 885
6 Cyborky Nobs: 150
Painboy: 30
Subtotal: 180
Battlewagon: 90
Armour Plates: 10
Grot Riggers: 5
Wreckin' Ball: 10
Deff Rolla: 20
Red Paint Job: 5
Stikk Bomb Chukka: 5
Subtotal: 145
Total: 320

11 Boyz: 66
Nob: 10
Powerklaw: 25
Bosspole: 5
Trukk: 35
Red Paint Job: 5
Stikk Bomb Chukka: 5
Wreckin' Ball: 10
Total: 161

11 Boyz: 66
Nob: 10
Powerklaw: 25
Bosspole: 5
Trukk: 35
Red Paint Job: 5
Stikk Bomb Chukka: 5
Wreckin' Ball: 10
Total: 161

25 Gretchin: 75
2 Runt Herders: 20
Total: 95

26 Gretchin: 78
2 Runt Herders: 20
Total: 98

Elites: 530
7 Cyborky Biker Nobz: 350
Painboy: 30
3 Big Choppas: 15
Total: 395

5 Kommandos: 50
Boss Snikrot - 85
Total - 135

Fast Boyz: 180
2x Deffkopta w/Twin-linked Rokkit Lauchas: 90
Total: 90

2x Deffkopta w/Twin-linked Rokkit Lauchas: 90
Total: 90

'eavy Metal: 120
3 Kannons: 60
Total: 60

3 Kannons: 60
Total: 60


Any suggestions?

This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2009/04/13 18:42:43


 
   
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Ultramarine Scout with Sniper Rifle




looks good i would try it out maybe some eavy armor

 
   
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Wraith




O H I am in the Webway...

Take all of the point costs away from everything

He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster and if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you  
   
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Superior Stormvermin





Does wazdakka allow the biker nobz to count as troops? If not, I'd just take a warboss on a bike. I think the additional (and dead hard) scoring unit more than makes up for whatever wazdakka gives.

Steve Perry.... STEEEEEEVE PERRY.... I SHOULD'VE BEEN GOOOONE! 
   
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Wraith




O H I am in the Webway...

Any warboss allows biker nobz (1) to be counted as troops, Waazdakka allows ALL bikers to be taken as troops

He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster and if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you  
   
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Ultramarine Scout with Sniper Rifle




is eaavy armour worth it

 
   
Made in ca
Fresh-Faced New User






See I was thinking the same thing, weighing the merits of Wazzdakka vs. Warboss. But I kinda think that while there are advantages to both, Wazzdakka is the better choice against the Guard. He's able to turbo boost 24 inches, bumping his cover save up to 3+, while still firing his Str 8, Assault 4 kannons. Which I think is key to knocking out Hell Hounds, Chimeras, Sentinels or Russes if he's lucky enough to catch the latter's rear or side armour. Plus, in my experience I rarely end up holding objectives with biker nobz. Most games they seem to zip from one crime scene to the next until my opponent finally wipes them out in turn 5.

 
   
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Jovial Plaguebearer of Nurgle




Sorry, I couldn't hear you over the sound of how awesome my tanks are.

Hellhounds will look at nob bikers and just laugh.

The true followers of the God-Emperor will never forget their name! We are the Imperial Guard!
Now and forever serving the God-Emperor, and Him alone! 
   
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Regular Dakkanaut




Nenya97 wrote:Sorry, I couldn't hear you over the sound of how awesome my tanks are.

Hellhounds will look at nob bikers and just laugh.


WHAT?? Sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of my powerKlaws hitting your puny rear armor.

"ANY" includes the special ones 
   
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Pestilent Plague Marine with Blight Grenade




Lafayette, IN

I prefer the warboss with a squig. 5 S10 attacks? I'm in. That is your tank killer right there.

My immediate thoughts:
5 S10 hth attacks > 4 S8 shooting vs guard.
2 flamers with the kommandos
powerklaws on 2 or 3 bikers
drop the kannons and deff koptas and get a squad of lootas. Use the extra points for klaws and flamers.
Kit all of the nobs differently.
kill da umies
   
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Wraith




O H I am in the Webway...

Hellhounds will rain on your parade (along with all heavy flamers, especially immolators, they ignore your armor/coversave and wound on 4's, not bad vs. T5) But, they can be easily smashed by PK's lol... The first problem I noticed is to drop all of the stickbomb chukkas. Orks will almost never strike first in CC... Why waste points on their I2-3 if they charge...

You want some real anti-guard? Burna boyz. 10 Flamers shota will downright annihilate everything it touches. Tankshocking him into mass flamer formation is also pure win.

He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster and if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you  
   
Made in gb
Morphing Obliterator





EzeKK wrote:Any warboss allows biker nobz (1) to be counted as troops, Waazdakka allows ALL bikers to be taken as troops


Wazzdakka allows all warbiker mobs to be taken as troops. He is not a warboss and so does not allow nobs of any description to be taken as troops.

Nenya97 wrote:Sorry, I couldn't hear you over the sound of how awesome my tanks are.

Hellhounds will look at nob bikers and just laugh.


Funny, I never thought that models with T5, a 5+ inv save, FNP and two wounds a piece cared about a S6 AP4 template. Hellhounds wont kill nob bikers. The best way to do it for guard is to drop battlecannon blasts on them.


@ OP:

Your army is too full of needless frivolities. Red paint jobs, and wrecking balls need to come off your trukks and battlewagon. They are cheap transports, best to keep them that way.

Big gun batteries are just terrible. The points are better spent on other things. For their points you dont get enough shots to make them worth it. The same goes for deffkoptas. Both of the points spent on these would be much better spent on lootas or more nobs.

The kommandos could use a couple of burnas. Comming in from the rear with two flamer templates will devastate any infantry in cover (and i hear guard do like their infantry). They also serve as power weapons against MEQs, which is an added bonus.

Gretchin are only useful for protecting meks with SAGs. They dont have the toughness to stand up to decent shooting or assault, even with mob rule, so cant really be used to sit on objectives. Better to spend the points on more orks.

Your biker nobs should also have at least one powerklaw. The one you get from wazzdakka wont be enough to kill tanks everytime in combat. Take another one to be sure.


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Polonius wrote:Well, seeing as I literally will die if I ever lose a game of 40k, I find your approach almost heretical. If we were to play each other in a tournament, not only would I table you, I would murder you, your family, every woman you ever loved and burn down your house. I mean, what's the point in winning if you allow people that don't take the game seriously to live?
 
   
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Fresh-Faced New User






Good critique on all counts Regwon. All of those points are things I've really been on the fence about - particularly the Big Gun batteries. I'm kinda new to Orks so I appreciate the advice from someone who's clearly used them more than I.

The only thing I'd dispute would be the usefulness of Gretchin. I've found that 2 or 3 large (25-29 models) mobs of Gretchin behind the lines are a real pain for an army like the Guard or Tau to dig out. Considering how important objectives are in 5th ed. 31 wounds for 112 points, with a 3+ cover save when pinned in area terrain, are points well spent I've found. So long as the Gretchin are positioned carefully even Hell Hounds struggle to kill enough of them before the game ends. My poor little grots have actually won my last few games for me.

 
   
 
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