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So you still don’t understand that letting them testify had nothing to do with how it affected Bergdahl, and still argue a completely different issue that has nothing to do with the actual argument that was made.

And you are very emotional and passionate about this guy, but not enough to actually research actual facts, none of which prevents you from posting your passionate opinions.

I guess we will continue to have a merit-based discussion over here, and you can have a participation discussion over there since you don’t have the time to actually contribute anything of value with your job keeping your away and your admitted lack of desire to actually look anything up.

Congratulation, you Bergdahl’d yourself.

 d-usa wrote:
He didn’t “just” get a DD.

He also got years of solitary confinement in a cave with physical and psychological torture. It’s not like he spend that time sitting in a beach drowning in women impresses by his war stories.

But maybe that doesn’t count, because we weren’t the ones doing that to him.

that's not justice, that's just gakky luck.


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 Dreadwinter wrote:

 Gordon Shumway wrote:
Couldn't he legally change his name? Yeah, he will have the DD stigma, but really, if a person really needs a pizza delivery guy, or teller, or whatever, he isn't going to look that closely at the application. When I was a sprout, I had some bosses, I'm pretty sure didn't even look at the application. He won't get the best of jobs, maybe, but he will get hired, and he can live and maybe make back some sort of life in his kids, if he wants to.

Most employers still ask about your military history and that is not something you can lie about in most cases.

Couple questions about a DD. Does it show up on a background check? Are you still able to get the VA benefits? (I think I read once that you still got the VA benefits, but that may be case by case)

From what I understand, no you won't receive any VA benefits and yes it shows up on a background check.


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 Dreadwinter wrote:

 Gordon Shumway wrote:
Couldn't he legally change his name? Yeah, he will have the DD stigma, but really, if a person really needs a pizza delivery guy, or teller, or whatever, he isn't going to look that closely at the application. When I was a sprout, I had some bosses, I'm pretty sure didn't even look at the application. He won't get the best of jobs, maybe, but he will get hired, and he can live and maybe make back some sort of life in his kids, if he wants to.

Most employers still ask about your military history and that is not something you can lie about in most cases.

Couple questions about a DD. Does it show up on a background check? Are you still able to get the VA benefits? (I think I read once that you still got the VA benefits, but that may be case by case)

From what I understand, no you won't receive any VA benefits and yes it shows up on a background check.

 Supertony51 wrote:

 d-usa wrote:
He didn’t “just” get a DD.

He also got years of solitary confinement in a cave with physical and psychological torture. It’s not like he spend that time sitting in a beach drowning in women impresses by his war stories.

But maybe that doesn’t count, because we weren’t the ones doing that to him.

that's not justice, that's just gakky luck.

This sums up the divide in a nutshell. Some people think things that happened only count unless we make them happen, otherwise they don't count and may as well not have happened.

edit: fix quote derp

edit 2: This is not intended to come across as rude or sarcastic; it is how I perceive the point of view behind that statement. Everyone is entitled to feel that Bergdahl was not properly punished for desertion and cowardice.

 d-usa wrote:
So you still don’t understand that letting them testify had nothing to do with how it affected Bergdahl, and still argue a completely different issue that has nothing to do with the actual argument that was made.

And you are very emotional and passionate about this guy, but not enough to actually research actual facts, none of which prevents you from posting your passionate opinions.

I guess we will continue to have a merit-based discussion over here, and you can have a participation discussion over there since you don’t have the time to actually contribute anything of value with your job keeping your away and your admitted lack of desire to actually look anything up.

Congratulation, you Bergdahl’d yourself.

Trump voter right there for you. Non apopgtic and a bit conspiracy minded. No need to engage with it. Shut down sequence... in five.. four..oh hell, everyone can see it for what it is. Don't be rude to other users, rule 1 Disengage.

At this point I think the thread should die the death.

Rudeness to other users is never ok.

This thread has passed its use by date