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Frist let me say that i have been trying to go with out Lash, PM, obliterator spam.....and i've been getting my butt handed to me. So im now thinking of just going for it and seeing how well it works. this is what i'm thinking.

HQ:
DP: Wings, Slaanesh, lash
DP: Wings, Slaanesh, lash
Total 210
Troop:
PM: 10man, Personal iocn, Flamerx2
Champ, PF
Rino
PM: 10man, Personal icon, MGx2
Champ, PF
Rino
CMS: 10man, Icon of CG, MGx2
Champ, PF
Rino
Total 905
Heavy:
Obliterator 3
Obliterator 3
Obliterator 3
Total 675
Fast:
Raptors: 6man, Icon of K, MGx2
Champ, PF
Total 210

Thoughts?

I assume you want this to be very competitive

You dont need personal icons on your PM. DSing your oblits very often isnt worth it compared to the extra turn of shooting you would have otherwise. Use the points to put meltas on that other PM squad.

That squad of CSM would be better as plague marines.

Other than that it looks like st standard dual lash.

I thought you had to ds oblits

Be ready for the cries of cheese - but you should win
!

Its a very solid list.
I'd drop the Raptors and take 8 men PM squad.
This would free enough points for another PM squad.
I'd give it plasma guns and no AC upgrade. Its just there for occupying an objective.

Not a bad idea...tho i did want a unit that could act quickly incase something nasty showed up that i wasnt expecting. thats what the raptors were for. tho i didnt expect them to kill it....just to weaken it. is there a better unit to fill this roll? i cant find one.

Well, a Rhino-delivered PM squad with 2 plasma guns that are fired within 12'' can be an alterative.
More solid if you ask me.

Why do you even bother posting lists like this? This is just another boring, cookie cutter list copied and pasted with a few minor, meaningless changes from the 100s of other lists just like it.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not going to cry cheese or complain that this list can't be beat, because it can. It causes me no concern. But really, if you are just going to copy everyone else's lists, then don't bother to post your duplicate, just read the comments on theirs.

fatal_GRACE wrote:Why do you even bother posting lists like this? This is just another boring, cookie cutter list copied and pasted with a few minor, meaningless changes from the 100s of other lists just like it.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not going to cry cheese or complain that this list can't be beat, because it can. It causes me no concern. But really, if you are just going to copy everyone else's lists, then don't bother to post your duplicate, just read the comments on theirs.

The same reason you bother posting the same Berzerkers-in-Land-Raiders list as everyone else who's trying to play the same non-existant legion.

PM do their job in this list but I encourage CSM because you'll have so many more which means more offensive power. You lose their toughness but gain more fight. It may or may not be as effective for everyone, but it's something different to try.

fatal_GRACE wrote:Why do you even bother posting lists like this? This is just another boring, cookie cutter list copied and pasted with a few minor, meaningless changes from the 100s of other lists just like it.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not going to cry cheese or complain that this list can't be beat, because it can. It causes me no concern. But really, if you are just going to copy everyone else's lists, then don't bother to post your duplicate, just read the comments on theirs.

The question you have to ask yourself is why are you bothering to post on this thread if you dont have anything constructive to add? The tone of the OP implied that he would like advice from more experienced dual lash players on his list, which we duely gave. If you think that this thread is a waste of time save everyone some efford and dont post.