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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/16 02:39:02
Subject: 60 minutes & the B-rex.
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DISCLAIMER (for what it's worth)
If you are a new member(or even an old one) of DAKKA please refrain from turning this into your own little chance to attack religion or creationism.
If you have an intelligent, nonsarcastic, repectful critique, that's fine and dandy, but please refrain from the temptation to attack or disrespect someones beliefs.
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There was an interesting segment on 60 minutes tonight about dinosours and some new research relating to T-rex.
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=5658449n&tag=contentBody;housing
Long story short a researcher at N.C. State did some testing on fossilized T-rex bone and discovered that she could see elasticity, and even blood vessels after applying some acid. She repeated this experiment on other fossilized dino bones and got the same "retissueized" effect.
I haven't read the science article yet that she published her work in, but the reporter made an interesting comment, "This is impossible to happen on bones that are fossilized 60 million years ago" (paraphrased). The question was never asked "Could this be possible because the bones really aren't 60 million years old?"
I want to read the article in Science, to see what exactly happened, and see some of the reaction by other scientists.
Also I'm not saying that this is "THE PROOF" that macro evolutionists are wrong. I'm just saying that I find this a very interesting development and am curious where it will lead. And am also interested in what other people have to say on the issue. (Remember be respectful)
GG
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/16 02:49:01
Subject: 60 minutes & the B-rex.
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Steady Space Marine Vet Sergeant
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kinda cool. i cant wait till im riding a t-rex to work.
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-to many points to bother to count.
mattyrm wrote:i like the idea of a woman with a lobster claw for a hand touching my nuts. :-) |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/16 03:00:01
Subject: 60 minutes & the B-rex.
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Killer Klaivex
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garret wrote:kinda cool. i cant wait till im riding a t-rex to work.
What?
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People are like dice, a certain Frenchman said that. You throw yourself in the direction of your own choosing. People are free because they can do that. Everyone's circumstances are different, but no matter how small the choice, at the very least, you can throw yourself. It's not chance or fate. It's the choice you made. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/16 03:03:09
Subject: 60 minutes & the B-rex.
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Steady Space Marine Vet Sergeant
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I read about her before. She belives she can possibly clone a dino.
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-to many points to bother to count.
mattyrm wrote:i like the idea of a woman with a lobster claw for a hand touching my nuts. :-) |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/16 03:41:07
Subject: 60 minutes & the B-rex.
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Pyre Troll
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so we're that much closer to a real jurassic park, and we all know how that will end
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/16 04:05:16
Subject: Re:60 minutes & the B-rex.
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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generalgrog wrote:I haven't read the science article yet that she published her work in, but the reporter made an interesting comment, "This is impossible to happen on bones that are fossilized 60 million years ago" (paraphrased). The question was never asked "Could this be possible because the bones really aren't 60 million years old?"
If I am not mistaken, it was pretty clear that all of the scientists involved were questioning whether organic material such as blood vessels could actually (by some phenomena) be preserved with the fossil. There was no question from the scientists as to whether the fossils could have been 'not millions of years old'.
Even if the fossils were just regular bones, that type of 'living' material, would still have been lost over a period of decades, even years. The main question is how something like that could be possible, even using the most limited averages of carbon dating and such. I have never doubted that these tests are not extremely precise (to the exact year basically), but I have also never seriously doubted the averages that these tests can come up with.
Hmmm... what would dino-chicken eggs taste like? Interesting...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/16 04:23:01
Subject: 60 minutes & the B-rex.
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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The quote actually seemed to be "This was impossible! This bone was 68 million years old!", which kind of makes me think she was just trying to say that it was amazing, more than trying to state scientific fact. I mean, the scientist didn't say it was impossible. Trying to disable the chicken's genes and turn it into a half-dinosaur is also the coolest idea I've ever heard of. (Jurassic Park was silly though. Get a big gun, shoot the dinosaur a lot of times, problem solved. They're huge, but they're still animals. Bullets will still kill them.)
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Anuvver fing - when they do sumfing, they try to make it look like somfink else to confuse everybody. When one of them wants to lord it over the uvvers, 'e says "I'm very speshul so'z you gotta worship me", or "I know summink wot you lot don't know, so yer better lissen good". Da funny fing is, arf of 'em believe it and da over arf don't, so 'e 'as to hit 'em all anyway or run fer it. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/16 04:41:09
Subject: 60 minutes & the B-rex.
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Dwarf High King with New Book of Grudges
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generalgrog wrote:
I haven't read the science article yet that she published her work in, but the reporter made an interesting comment, "This is impossible to happen on bones that are fossilized 60 million years ago" (paraphrased). The question was never asked "Could this be possible because the bones really aren't 60 million years old?"
Why not reformulate our understanding of fossilization, rather than our understanding of the Earth's age?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/16 04:45:00
Subject: 60 minutes & the B-rex.
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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Orkeosaurus wrote:Trying to disable the chicken's genes and turn it into a half-dinosaur is also the coolest idea I've ever heard of.
AWESOME-SAUCE FTW!!!
(Jurassic Park was silly though. Get a big gun, shoot the dinosaur a lot of times, problem solved. They're huge, but they're still animals. Bullets will still kill them.)
You forget that I am planning to equip my army of Chicken-dinosaurs, with lasers on their heads.. wait... I think I have revealed too much.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/16 04:49:47
Subject: 60 minutes & the B-rex.
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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Anuvver fing - when they do sumfing, they try to make it look like somfink else to confuse everybody. When one of them wants to lord it over the uvvers, 'e says "I'm very speshul so'z you gotta worship me", or "I know summink wot you lot don't know, so yer better lissen good". Da funny fing is, arf of 'em believe it and da over arf don't, so 'e 'as to hit 'em all anyway or run fer it. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/16 04:53:38
Subject: 60 minutes & the B-rex.
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Dwarf High King with New Book of Grudges
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I love that show.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/16 04:54:22
Subject: 60 minutes & the B-rex.
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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Jurassic park doesn't have anything on Dino-wars... not a damn thing.
Those Pterodactyls make me laugh though... why are the lasers on their wings? IT MAKES NO SENSE.
*Wrex's head explodes*
Wrex's stump gurgles... DINO-RIDERS.. sorry... gurgle gurgle pltchhh.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/16 05:20:39
Subject: 60 minutes & the B-rex.
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Good thing they have twin linking going on.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/16 05:29:33
Subject: Re:60 minutes & the B-rex.
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Excellent Exalted Champion of Chaos
Grim Forgotten Nihilist Forest.
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I want a pet raptor! Come here fluffy!
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I've sold so many armies. :(
Aeldari 3kpts
Slaves to Darkness.3k
Word Bearers 2500k
Daemons of Chaos
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/16 13:53:02
Subject: 60 minutes & the B-rex.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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dogma wrote:generalgrog wrote:
I haven't read the science article yet that she published her work in, but the reporter made an interesting comment, "This is impossible to happen on bones that are fossilized 60 million years ago" (paraphrased). The question was never asked "Could this be possible because the bones really aren't 60 million years old?"
Why not reformulate our understanding of fossilization, rather than our understanding of the Earth's age?
This is certainly possible.
GG
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/16 13:56:10
Subject: 60 minutes & the B-rex.
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
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greenskin lynn wrote:so we're that much closer to a real jurassic park, and we all know how that will end
Gun toting rednecks having a new hunting season?
"bronto season starts Spetember 30 and lasts for two weeks. You can get your hunting permit at S Mart along with your 8 gauge auotloader. Shop Smart. Shop S Mart."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/16 13:56:38
Subject: 60 minutes & the B-rex.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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dakka burped....double post.
GG
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