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Two lists here, the original concept and the new concept... I'm tagging with a Big Bug tyranid list. After losing to a Tzeentch Daemon/Dual Lash team-up (are you surprised?) I decided to try a couple things differently. First of all the Burna (Power Weapon) on the mek is just a liability - he's better to keep out of base contact. Secondly, as much as I originally liked the idea of open-topped wagons shooting from a tiny little bit of the hull exposed around the corner of a vehicle, the wagons were a KP liability as well as a huge problem when they were stunned.

Hopefully the Koptas will let me scout out and tie up a nasty shooty unit, or put the hurt on a light/medium vehicle.

I'd certainly take a large unit of Shoota Boyz... if I had any shoota boy models.

LIST #1

Big Mek 105
Kustom Forcefield, Burna

27 Ork 'Ard Boyz 310
Nob w/ Power Claw, Bosspole

30 Ork Boyz 225
Nob w/ Power Claw, Bosspole, Eavy

30 Ork Boyz 225
Nob w/ Power Claw, Bosspole, Eavy

15 Gretchin + Runtherd 55

15 Gretchin + Runtherd 55

6 Lootas 90

Looted Wagon w/ Big Shoota 40

6 Lootas 90

Looted Wagon w/ Big Shoota 40


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LIST #2

Big Mek 85
Kustom Forcefield

25 Ork 'Ard Boyz 290
Nob w/ Power Claw, Bosspole

30 Ork Boyz 225
Nob w/ Power Claw, Bosspole, Eavy

30 Ork Boyz 225
Nob w/ Power Claw, Bosspole, Eavy

15 Gretchin + Runtherd 55

15 Gretchin + Runtherd 55

12 Lootas 180

3 Deffkoptas w/ Twin Linked Rokkits 135



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List 1:

If your doing foot slogging orks killa kanz are best with two big meks. Meks give 4+ cover save to kanz, which give 4+ cover save to the boyz. ATM you have grots which give a 4+ cover save, kill them as they have no save and your meat shield is gone. A 5+ cover save from the mek won't keep them alive for long.

6 lootas isn't a lot, D3 x 6 at the best will give you 18 shots which need 5+ to hit. If your going for armour with these its going to be tough, infantry not a problem. But getting the hits is the problem, you need more. Also take battlewagons, not looted wagons as they could move when you don't want them too.

List 2:

Same list so same pointers apart from the deffkopters. Deffkopters work well in single units, can target more choices and immune to morale tests almost. Throw in a buzzsaw on one of them for a S7 power fist attack.

Also, take a look at this deffkopter tactica on my blog:

http://imperiusdominatus.blogspot.com/2009/10/ork-deffkopter-tactica.html

Wouldn't mind taking this if I had the Kans...

Big Mek 85
Kustom Forcefield

25 Ork 'Ard Boyz 290
Nob w/ Power Claw, Bosspole

29 Ork Boyz 219
Nob w/ Power Claw, Bosspole, Eavy

29 Ork Boyz 219
Nob w/ Power Claw, Bosspole, Eavy

11 Lootas 165

3 Deffkoptas w/ Twin Linked Rokkits 135

3 Killa Kans 2x Big Shootas, 1x Grotlauncha 135


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Alright man here goes my 2 cents. Footsloggin army ALWAYS run Ghazzy. He gives you such a threat range its not even funny. Not to mention your assaulting by turn 2. I would run something like this.

HQ:
Ghazzy - 225

KFF Mech - 85

Troops:
29x Sluggas - 215
1x Nob w/PK

29x Sluggas - 215
1x Nob w/PK

29x Sluggas - 215
1x Nob w/PK

29x Sluggas - 215
1x Nob w/PK

30x Gretchen - Points Im not sure
(however many Runt hurders you have to take)

Total:
Close to what you need.

Run a HUGE Line of Gretchen accross the table infront of your boyz. This will give them all a 4+ cover save and you wont have to worry about your Gretchen staying alive for to long because you will be in CC by turn 2 with Ghazzy. I hope this helped man.

I've pretty much decided on the following:

Big Mek 85
Kustom Forcefield

25 Ork 'Ard Boyz 290
Nob w/ Power Claw, Bosspole

29 Ork Boyz 219
Nob w/ Power Claw, Bosspole, Eavy

29 Ork Boyz 219
Nob w/ Power Claw, Bosspole, Eavy

12 Lootas 180

3 Deffkoptas, 2x TL Rokkits , 1x TL Big Shootas+Buzzsaw 150

14 Gretchin + Runtherd 52
15 Gretchin + Runtherd 55

Smashed a Creed/Ordinance/Dual Demolisher list with 'em on the weekend. I'll be backed up by a couple of Dakkatyrants (1 winged, 1 with guard), carnifexes and genestealers in the tourney, which will hopefully draw a little fire away from my Koptas...