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Hey all, been here since RT, but didn't play since nobody else did so gave up on it. Came back but still no one to play so quit again. Back now and sticking with it. I was looking through the new Tyranid codex and a stupid idea came to me. Why is it stupid? Because I didn't think of it at first, but now that I have been reading lots of rules on YMDC and other forums about rules and how people read the rules that it can go both ways. So here is my stupid idea.

Can a brood of 3 Carnifex take a Mycetic spore? I say yes. All in the rules for the Carnifex under Dedicated Transport, says that if the brood consists of a single Carnifex it can take a Mycetic spore. If the brood starts out with 3 of them and 2 die, it now consits of a single carnifex. So therefore that carnifex can take a mycetic spore now. No where in the rules say that a Mycetic spore has to be full, so it can be empty just like SM drop pods can be empty (if it does say that a MS has to have something inside it please referecne the page please) and then be dropped podded into play when it's empty.

I really don't think this can be, but after reading how people debate the rules, I would like to see what you guys think of this rule. Since everyone likes to say it this way, or that way, I am interested to read what you guys think.

Remember I am going by the wording, "if a brood consists of a single carnifex" no where does it state that it has to be at the begining of the game. Basically I am a newbie starting all over again after years and years of absence. So I can't go by RAI, only what I read and this is what I have read.

Errm...

You do realise it doesn't say you can magically add things to your army during the middle of the game, so you can't?

I don't have the nid dex so my interp is based 100% on your words above.

If the dex says "if the brood consists of a single Fex it can take a Mycetic Spore" then the only time you may purchase a dedicated transport is if the Carnifex is alone at the beginning of the game.

Long story short, if you are just getting back into the hobby, don't be like the loud minority of players who post a lot on this forum. Read the rules and don't look to bend them. You squad a carni then no spore. Very simple.

I was thinking of the basis that you buy the spore at the begining of the game, so it dosn't magicaly add things, but it can't come into play until there is only a single Carnifex in that brood.

I thought it could work in the way how SM buy transports but they can be empty.

How does that make sense? If the Brood Started as 3 Models, you CANNOT buy them a Spod, even an empty one.

Gwar! wrote:How does that make sense? If the Brood Started as 3 Models, you CANNOT buy them a Spod, even an empty one.

Nowhere does it say I CANNOT by it. All it says if the brood consists of a single Carnifex. Turn 1 brood has 2 carnifex, turn 2 brood has 2 carnifex, turn 3 brood has one carnifex. Now that brood is able to take a dedicated transport vehicle. Yes I know the Carnifex can't go back into the dedicated transport vehicle but it should be able to have one now by going what is read. I am going by RAW, where else does this prevent me from doing it?

Mind you, I would never do this, I just thought it would be nice to have a debate. If you think it will get heated or fighting, get a mod to lock this, but it was an idea I thought that could be playable by getting more MC if you want to have alots of MC on the board. This I might do for a fun game. I know the points would be better spent else where, but for a fun game, I thought why not and try it. So that is why I am asking. I just don't want it to get into heated debates. Also this is a good way for me to learn the rules that I might have missed else where since we have to cross refrence almost all the rules. So I am trying to see what rules I might have missed when I tried to cross reference this.

So where does it say it can't be done? SM can do this.

Davor wrote:

Gwar! wrote:How does that make sense? If the Brood Started as 3 Models, you CANNOT buy them a Spod, even an empty one.

Nowhere does it say I CANNOT by it.

No. "It Doesn't say I can't" is NOT how 40k works. It has to say you CAN.

It doesn't say I can't launch ICMBs at your Dog if I start losing does it?

It says it can't be done because only a brood of one Carnifex can buy a transport pod.

MasterSlowPoke wrote:It says it can't be done because only a brood of one Carnifex can buy a transport pod.

Dang it, how did I miss that? LMFAO . Oh well this will teach me, not toe read the rules when I am so tired in the middle of the nite. At least I knew what I was thinking wasn't right, but since I couldn't see why it wasn't right, I was thinking it was right then. As Gwar mentioned as well, just because it dosn't say I can't, dosn't mean I can.

Thanks guys, I was just reading it the wrong way. Now back to YMDA and confusing myself about all the other tyranids rules now.

The next generation of 40k players is looking :drumroll: Grim.

No biggie Davor.

Just think of it this way,

When you choose to buy the Spod when making your army list, how many Carnifex are in the brood? If it is more then one, you cannot buy it.

Kurgash wrote:The next generation of 40k players is looking :drumroll: Grim.

He's the first generation, actually.

MasterSlowPoke wrote:

Kurgash wrote:The next generation of 40k players is looking :drumroll: Grim.

He's the first generation, actually.

Oh crap. Missed the part of him being back from RT =0. My apologies.