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i reacently took my WOC to a tourni and managed 17th out of 89ish. the tourni was fantastic because of how big a part comp played in it, the cheese lists (there was EOTG + slaan +steg, Bloodthirster +flamers and a few others that i cant remember) all got 0 for comp and therefore didnt get into the top half...i was VERY happy with this and so decided that i wanted to take a skaven army up next year, so here is my attempt to make a list that is compeditive but not too powerful.

(NOTE: i really dont want to include a HPA simply caus for their points they are WAY to good)

LORD
Warlord=193
Halberd
Enchanted shield
Poisoned attacks
Foul pendent
Bonebreaker

HEROES
Plague priest=304
Flail
LvL2
Furnace
Scrying stone

Warplock engineer=120
LvL 2
Warp energy condenser

Plague priest=169
LvL 2
Flail
Shadow magic trinket

CORE
25 clanrats=145
Shields
Spears
Full command

25 clanrats=135
Shields
Spears
Muso-standard

25 clanrats=135
Shields
Spears
Muso-standard

25 clanrats=135
Shields
Spears
Muso-standard

20 slaves=40

20 slaves=40

20 slaves=40

Giant rat pack=26
1 pack master
6 giant rats

Giant rat pack=23
1 pack master
5 giant rats

SPECIAL
25 plague monks=200
Full command

30 plague monks=235
Full command

5 censer bearers=80

5 censer bearers=80

RARE
Doomwheel=150

Wow, that's a lot of rats!

Don't you think you'll need some things with range? I like the list and the theme, but I'm interested to hear how you'll use it.

It looks balanced to me, definitely not overpowering or unfair... I would think it'd get excellent comp scores.

yeah, i am a little worried with the lack of shooting, but then again i am comming from WOC to rats, so i kinda forgot about shooting :p.
i am considering dropping the unit of 25 monks to throw in some poisend wind moarters or doom flayers..
what do people think?

Doomflayers, haven't done me any good. The Poisoned Wind Mortar though has done great. Last night, as a matter of fact, it toasted 5 Dragon Princes (?, High Elves with 2+ Armor on horses), and took out both his bolt thrower crews putting two wounds on one of the bolt thrower. Mind you that was two PWM, but I was very impressed with them. You can save 5 points in your list by dropping the 30 man Plague Monk unit's Musician. I'm guessing that the Furnace will be placed in here making the unit unbreakable. With that you don't really need either the banner or musician, though they can be helpfull. Is the Preist not on the Furnace going into the Furnace unit? If not the one on the Furnace needs that more.

LORD
Warlord=193
Halberd
Enchanted shield
Poisoned attacks
Foul pendent
Bonebreaker

HEROES
Plague priest=304
Flail
LvL2
Furnace
Scrying stone

Warplock engineer=120
LvL 2
Warp energy condenser

Plague priest=169
LvL 2
Flail
Shadow magic trinket

CORE
25 clanrats=145
Shields
Spears
Full command

25 clanrats=137
Shields
Spears
Muso-standard
Poisoned wind moarter=65

25 clanrats=137
Shields
Spears
Muso-standard
Poisoned wind moarter=65



25 clanrats=137
Shields
Spears
Muso-standard

20 slaves=40

20 slaves=40

20 slaves=40
20 slaves=40

Giant rat pack=26
1 pack master
6 giant rats

Giant rat pack=29
1 pack master
7 giant rats

SPECIAL
30 plague monks=235
standard

6 censer bearers=96

6 censer bearers=96

RARE
Doomwheel=150


ok, what i have done here is drop the unit of 20 plague monks, and replace them with 20 slaves, 2 PWG, bufed the censer bearer units and added some giant rats. i could just use the points for a total od 3 PWG but i am not sure if that would be to OTT.
opinions?

Nah, two PWM are fine, IMO. Have you though of dropping a slave block or two to beif up your Giant Rat units?

the giant rats were more just for cheap redirectors and deployments, not sure if i want to run a large unit of them

Ah, then by all means don't.