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Ok,after all the changes I made,my new list:

Farseer
Spirit Stones
Doom
Fortune

5 fire dragons

Wave Serpent
TL Shruiken cannon
Shruiken cannon

5 Dire avengers
Wave Serpent
TL Shruiken cannon
Shruiken cannon

5 Dire avengers
Wave Serpent
TL Shruiken cannon

5 Dire avengers
Wave Serpent
TL Shruiken cannon

5 Dire avengers

5 Dire avengers

Falcon
Scatter laser
Shruiken cannon
Holo fields

Falcon
Scatter laser
Shruiken cannon
Holo fields

Fire prism
Shruiken cannon

I think I've got what what it takes,
Enough fire power,fast moving freaks
Tanks hunters,infantry punishers
So what do you think?

That's a typical mech list.
Its shooting output is too low if you face a horde of Orks.
Then you need blade storming Dire Avengers.

I might trade the two bare DA's and a falcon for another prism and some harlies to go in the second falcon for some nice cc support. That's the only change I'd make though and I'd run the list as is to see how you feel about it. Looks like fun.

Is it good enough for a tornament?

Have you ever played this list.
Against Orks, you could (literally) throw the skimmers against the large mobz.

Need more Dragons, 2 squads is needed in a 1500pt list imo. Either drop a falcon for another Prism or drop the prism, they should be fielded in pairs or not at all.

Why do you have doom on your Seer? I would consider a stock Autarch instead.

I would stick with farseer,and I think I can stand against Orks
And I haven't even got the models yet,proxying for now

I still think that your modified list NEEDS 2 units of fire dragons. You just can't rely on one unit to do anything. Bring a pair, and its much more difficult for your opponent to stop them.

The Farseer is an ok choice but why do you pay 45pts for Doom?

The only thing doom does for you in this list is augment your one fire prism.

My advice: Drop a falcon, add another prism. Consider lowering the HQ point cost or taking an Autarch or guideseer. You don't have a list that benefits greatly from psychic powers except perhaps guiding falcons.

Consider pumping at LEAST one DA squad to 10man with bladestorm dualcat exarch so you can do something outside of rely on armor. Anti-tank heavy armies will own you right now. Lots of people are playing anti-tank heavy armies. Then, if you took a decent DA unit, a Doomseer isn't a bad idea. Not many squads stand up to that kind of firepower and rerolled saves.

If you're using this 5 man DA thing to just make your vehicles 'scoring' you don't need that many of them anyway at this point level. This is one of the few times I'd say people are right to advise you to add another FD squad instead.

And maybe guide on my farseer

Well, in this kind of army I'd give the Farseer doom.
Guide is good if you field War Walkers, but in your list there is nothing that really benefits from guide.

Everything is str 6 in his army, if one decides to take a farseer it should be a fortune seer.

I suggested guide for the falcon.

Normally I'd agree with Wuest, but I see so many army lists posted now with doom, but then they take all of the units that could benefit from it out of the army and run tanks. Then you should use guide on non-TL weapons or BS3 squadrons, and/or fortune.

I won't start a long discussion on this thread on it, but to keep it simple.. his farseer needs to match the units in his army.

Actually, you could give Eldrich storm or mind war to the Farseer.

wuestenfux wrote:Actually, you could give Eldrich storm or mind war to the Farseer.

I'm sure you're joking, but...

Anything is better than doom when all the weapons are S6+.. However, having PSA's run counter to leaving the farseer inside the tank.

Not to nit pick but eldrich storm and mind war would require the farseer to get out of the transport so they are horrible powers. If you decide to take guide I would take a BL on the Falcon for some nice Oblit IDing and transport poping.

tedurur wrote:Not to nit pick but eldrich storm and mind war would require the farseer to get out of the transport so they are horrible powers. If you decide to take guide I would take a BL on the Falcon for some nice Oblit IDing and transport poping.

Yeah, Wuest was joking I'm pretty sure, and as I said, with PSA's you can't do it unless you disembark. Which all returns to what I said. Guide would probably be the first power, if not the only power I'd take in his list. I second Ted's suggestion that he take a BL Falcon if he takes guide. 3 S8 shots with guide can be very useful against a variety of targets. EMLs are a decent second choice, but I'm not a fan of them personally.

I'm not a fan of pure mech, but....

If you want anything at all that can deal against Orks you want at least... minimum... 1 flamer in your list.

If I read your list correctly, you've got a waveserpent with 2 shuriken cannons with your firedragons, but no spirit stones. toss the extra cannon for stones. You want this serpent to draw the least amount of attention from your opponent, so don't put anything extra on it, except stones. You really want your troop vehicles to be the biggest targets or your holofield vehicles.

I can see where eldritch storm could be useful... flip a vehicle around to a more exposed location... then open up with str6 weaponry. Doom's better though, but storm and doom isn't terrible. I don't see where any other powers have a real use.

Odd... you want runes of warding, any chance to pop enemy pyskers or at least ruin their powers for a mere 15pts is a no brainer.

RoWard would be the best reason to take a farseer. Simply assumed that it was included...