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100ish - doesn't seem that bad for something with the equivalent of twin autocannons and two flamers, that does mortal wounds on a 4+.
Suprised the flames aren't pistol though, but could easily imagine a strat.

Warhams-77 wrote:

wacherax wrote:
Dont know if someone has pointed it out before, bu the kommando kit is currently unavailable, so its probably one of the new kits that havent been announced yet.

I cannot even find it in both Spanish and UK stores.

Still available here

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-NZ/Ork-Tankbustas?_requestid=13520326

https://www.games-workshop.com/de-DE/Panzaknakkaz-der-Orks

Your links are for Tankbustas, not Kommandos...

The deluge begins - Shockjump Dragsta! Shockjump Dragsta!

2 shot plasma that hits on a 3+ - always overcharged but does D6 dmg + extra mortal on 6 to wound.
If it advances 4 or more, it teleports and gets to deepstrike somewhere else.

Standard rokkit, and now standard saws - S6 -1AP.

You are right, my bad. I believe they will be repacked with 32mm bases though.

PiñaColada wrote:
https://spikeybits.com/2018/10/breaking-new-40k-ork-speed-freeks-rules-spotted.html

Have you guys seen this? Leaked Kustom Boosta-blasta rumours
Assuming the picture is to be trusted:

The rivet kannon seems sweet
FOUR burna exhausts? 4D3 auto hits is a big deal imo
Grot blasta being S4?
Potential mortal wounds on the charge is always nice
Speed Mob ability is still unknown

5 power points is about 100 actual points that people care about, right?

In any case, 4x Burna boys costs about 61 points and 5 power points.
Seems nice and underpriced, these things are decent.

Tastyfish wrote:
The deluge begins - Shockjump Dragsta!

2 shot plasma that hits on a 3+ - always overcharged but does D6 dmg.
If it advances 4 or more, it teleports and gets to deepstrike somewhere else.

Those rules are hilarious! I love that haha. The gun itself seems quite powerful with a chance to deal 3 mortal wounds in addation to normal damage coupled with a +2 to hit as well
6PL might be a bit worrisome for the durability though

Edit: Would the shokk tunnel proc on a 3+ with the rumoured evil sunz trait? And am I correct in thinking it's automatic and not a choice?

Tastyfish wrote:
The deluge begins - Shockjump Dragsta! Shockjump Dragsta!

2 shot plasma that hits on a 3+ - always overcharged but does D6 dmg + extra mortal on 6 to wound.
If it advances 4 or more, it teleports and gets to deepstrike somewhere else.

Standard rokkit, and now standard saws - S6 -1AP.

3+ to hit rifle, plasma rule is now on unmodified 1's.

This thing is the antivehicle we need

yeah seems to be automatic... the 3+ to hit with a ass2 s8 ap-3 Dd6 weapon seems veeeeeeerrrryyyy nice!
but beeing +100 points?

maybe hiding 2 of em behind BLOS terrain and then hope to get the jump off? would be hitting on 4+ though... idk have the feeling it looks good on paper but on the actual battlefield? idk...
it all depends on how costly trukks are going to be... and tankbustaz off course. if a couple of tankbustaz in a trukk are about the same cost of 2 dragstaz? what would you take?

two dragstaz performs silimlar to 6-7 tankbustaz in a trukk with 2 bombsquigs (roughly 200ish points about 5-7dmg per round against t7 3+ save vehicles)

thoughts?

I've seen that page too, I posted info from it over on r/orks this morning. Didn't want to go too crazy since it seemed too good to be true.

Basically I think we've been given a lascannon. 14" move (maybe more from special rules,) and 24" range gives a 38" threat envelope while hitting on 3's. Add in the Evil Sunz tactic, and whatever stratagem that might apply, and three of those is our most effective heavy armor weapon. Use three of the Blasta to clear screens, and maybe we can counter Knights?

Warhams-77 wrote:
You are right, my bad. I believe they will be repacked with 32mm bases though.

As do I.

 beerbeard wrote:
I've seen that page too, I posted info from it over on r/orks this morning. Didn't want to go too crazy since it seemed too good to be true.

Basically I think we've been given a lascannon. 14" move (maybe more from special rules,) and 24" range gives a 38" threat envelope while hitting on 3's. Add in the Evil Sunz tactic, and whatever stratagem that might apply, and three of those is our most effective heavy armor weapon. Use three of the Blasta to clear screens, and maybe we can counter Knights?

It also teleports when advancing (half the time), which is pretty cool. So the threat range is even bigger.

RedNoak wrote:
yeah seems to be automatic... the 3+ to hit with a ass2 s8 ap-3 Dd6 weapon seems veeeeeeerrrryyyy nice!
but beeing +100 points?

maybe hiding 2 of em behind BLOS terrain and then hope to get the jump off? would be hitting on 4+ though... idk have the feeling it looks good on paper but on the actual battlefield? idk...
it all depends on how costly trukks are going to be... and tankbustaz off course. if a couple of tankbustaz in a trukk are about the same cost of 2 dragstaz? what would you take?

two dragstaz performs silimlar to 6-7 tankbustaz in a trukk with 2 bombsquigs (roughly 200ish points about 5-7dmg per round against t7 3+ save vehicles)

thoughts?

Yea, definitely take this over 7 TBs in a trukk. Assuming it has 8 wounds (hard to read) there are a ton more T6 wounds this way. Also...these vehicles do not degrade!!! ALSO...Mob rule!

If lootas have 8 power levels at 85, I think it is too much to hope that this buggy will be 63. I'd take it at 100, maybe 120.

An hour ago I wasn't going to buy Speed Freaks....

Note there is a new keyword as well..."speed freaks."

 JimOnMars wrote:

RedNoak wrote:
yeah seems to be automatic... the 3+ to hit with a ass2 s8 ap-3 Dd6 weapon seems veeeeeeerrrryyyy nice!
but beeing +100 points?

maybe hiding 2 of em behind BLOS terrain and then hope to get the jump off? would be hitting on 4+ though... idk have the feeling it looks good on paper but on the actual battlefield? idk...
it all depends on how costly trukks are going to be... and tankbustaz off course. if a couple of tankbustaz in a trukk are about the same cost of 2 dragstaz? what would you take?

two dragstaz performs silimlar to 6-7 tankbustaz in a trukk with 2 bombsquigs (roughly 200ish points about 5-7dmg per round against t7 3+ save vehicles)

thoughts?

Yea, definitely take this over 7 TBs in a trukk. Assuming it has 8 wounds (hard to read) there are a ton more T6 wounds this way. Also...these vehicles do not degrade!!! ALSO...Mob rule!

If lootas have 8 power levels at 85, I think it is too much to hope that this buggy will be 63. I'd take it at 100, maybe 120.

An hour ago I wasn't going to buy Speed Freaks....

Note there is a new keyword as well..."speed freaks."

Also, dakka x3 applies to it as well meaning you're generating extra shots with your BS 3+ gun.

Whoever said we've been given a lascannon, nope. It's a plasma-rail gun

I wanted to complain about the fact that it's basically two plasma shots for 120 points - but then I saw the d6 damage.

The fact it can teleport is just hilariously fun.

Is it strong? Not sure - it's basically x2 Lascannons for 120 points - but at BS3+, mobile, and Orky; I'll take it. I don't think it's AMAZING; but it's certainly better than what we've had so far, and definitely a step in the right direction.

 Ghaz wrote:

Warhams-77 wrote:
You are right, my bad. I believe they will be repacked with 32mm bases though.

As do I.

... can't argue it's weird only kommandoz got discountinued "for repacking"

Guess which model is exclusive to the £90 boxed set

Who cares? A proper Ork dragsta gotta be a kustom build anyway

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Guess which model is exclusive to the £90 boxed set

I wouldn't go haywire with the word exclusive. Almost certain it just means exclusive for now like warglaives were exclusive for forgebane for a while. Seeing GW wants you to buy these boxes rather than buggies individually they want to get people buy NOW NOW NOW. GW's whole marketing is aimed to get people buy _now_ rather than collect for later.

When you factor in also that GW's boxed sets tend to eventually dissapear from sale if they truly would be exclusive it would mean these buggies would eventually go out of sale eventually...

Kustom Boosta-Blasta: https://imgur.com/qlNudET

well there goes the hopes for grot gunner ... it's linked to a specific weapon

 aracersss wrote:
well there goes the hopes for grot gunner ... it's linked to a specific weapon

That's how grot gunners have worked in the past so...

tneva82 wrote:

 aracersss wrote:
well there goes the hopes for grot gunner ... it's linked to a specific weapon

That's how grot gunners have worked in the past so...

but will it be for the correct gun, if it isn't for this case alone?

Dunno. It was on secondary guns on the other instance that came to mind aka the weaker of the guns. As such I wasn't hoping for it to work for best gun here either.

 aracersss wrote:

but will it be for the correct gun, if it isn't for this case alone?

You can tell which gunners go with which guns by looking at the models

Have to say plasma always being overcharged strikes me as a very Orky way of doing the rules; what self-respecting green skin is going to turn the dial down?! Makes me hopeful that the codex might have captured the right mix of randomness, fun and occasional insane OP that Orks should have.

What I found out interesting about that is that it's unmodified. Sign that GW migjht make it more sensible in say CA or are orks going to be special ones with actually sensible overcharge rule?

while im not sure how well these vehicles will do in the meta if they cost around 100pts it definitely seems they have some sweet benefits. the shockjump dragsta is good for antitank shooting and its speed is good for getting in range for that. and if it need to get to the back field it can make a few attempt's to shockjump (and it would be the whole squad that can do this, plus with cmd pt reroll its more likely). a good clan to use for the dragsta is evilsunz so it can fire full BS after advancing and jumping. this model would pair nicely in a list with kmk mekguns. it can even deploy behind so the mekguns can be right at the edge of deployment, and the dragstas just jump past them. you get close range and long range anti tank fire that will divide your enemy.

the boomblasta is preety nice, and while its main gun is good in range this model is best to get as close as possible to the enemy. youll want to charge this bad boy and get those sweet mortal wounds and do some damage with the burnas. the best clan trait to use with this buggy is the bloodaxes so it can get out of combat, get some shooting and recharge with more mortal wounds.

now that these are around 100pts i can see that bikes and old buggies meating a smaller distraction. oldbuggies come in around 50pts after upgrades (might decrease with possible changes in wpn prices) and added clan traits will benefit the original buggy. a bunch of skorcha buggies would be great with bloodaxe trait so that they can disengage out of combat if they are charged and still get in more flames.

a bunch of bikers with skorchasbuggies and the new boom blaster can make an awesome bloodaxe assault unit with a bikemek with kff for support (especially to repair the boom blastas).

 Eonfuzz wrote:

plasma rule is now on unmodified 1's.

Is it just for this weapon or did I miss something and they did an errata for all plasma weapons?

 TheGuest wrote:

 Eonfuzz wrote:

plasma rule is now on unmodified 1's.

Is it just for this weapon or did I miss something and they did an errata for all plasma weapons?

So far just for this but one can hope CA contains errrata for rest.