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With stormboys having jump packs, they move 12''
Plus the extra d6 from having Rokkit Packs?


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Did you guys know Canada has a friggin desert?

you only roll the rokkit packs D6 to see if one of your boyz has to be removed. so they only go 12 in the movement phase.

would be cool in 6th ed to get a red paint upgrade for these guys tho

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Blitza da warboy wrote:you only roll the rokkit packs D6 to see if one of your boyz has to be removed. so they only go 12 in the movement phase.


Check the last sentence of the Rokkit Pack rules entry...

The roll is added to their movement.

 
   
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huh, for somebody with that screen name and an Orky avatar, you sure don't know much about them....


Ork Codex, pg 47, last sentence under "Rokkit Pack":

Regardless of the result you may add the number rolled to the amount the unit moves that turn.

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got a quick one - it also states to remove a stormboy if a 1 is rolled

i had an ork player try to tell me that it does not effect Zagstrug (or whatever his name is) when he is the only model left as he is not a 'Stormboy'.. i advised that Zagrstrug is just an upgraded stormboy so he should be removed as he is equiped with the Rokkit Pack and get the benifits so therefore suffers the consequences also


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Catachan_Devil wrote:i had an ork player try to tell me that it does not effect Zagstrug (or whatever his name is) when he is the only model left as he is not a 'Stormboy'..


That's getting into 'DoM isn't a Zoanthrope' and 'Nork isn't an Ogryn' territory...

There's an argument for it by pure RAW, but it's really just hair-splitting. He's a Stormboy.

 
   
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Catachan_Devil wrote:got a quick one - it also states to remove a stormboy if a 1 is rolled

i had an ork player try to tell me that it does not effect Zagstrug (or whatever his name is) when he is the only model left as he is not a 'Stormboy'.. i advised that Zagrstrug is just an upgraded stormboy so he should be removed as he is equiped with the Rokkit Pack and get the benifits so therefore suffers the consequences also


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Yeah He's not an IC so what is but a Stormboys Boss ie, a StormBoy.

(He was possibly thinking of the 'Violent Temper' rule Zag has)

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RaW, he isn't a Stormboy, and he isn't removed on a roll of a 1.

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The rule does say stormboyz unit, and then owner....so Zag is part of the unit so should be affected.

If he complains too much, just hit him with the flip side of it, and disallow zag the extra 1d6 movement then.........



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I'm slightly confused, while the rulebook says JI moves 12" it also says they may move as normal infantry. Does this mean that Orky ones move 6+D6"? So they would move up to 6" safely and 6+D6 with some risk?

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Homer S wrote:I'm slightly confused, while the rulebook says JI moves 12" it also says they may move as normal infantry. Does this mean that Orky ones move 6+D6"? So they would move up to 6" safely and 6+D6 with some risk?

Homer
No. Stormboys, when they move as Jump Infantry, move up to 12"+D6. If they move as Infantry, they just move 6.

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I wonder it that is an editing issue? Maybe they originally wanted it to be Orky variable movement and others said it would be too confusing. End result is that it is another reason why Eldar are even less amazing (Warp Spiders extra move).

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Pfff.. .whatever Spiders move 2d6 AFTER pumping out aninsane amount of S6 fire. Cry me a river! lol

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SlaveToDorkness wrote:Pfff.. .whatever Spiders move 2d6 AFTER pumping out aninsane amount of S6 fire. Cry me a river! lol
Yes, but it is AP - fire so they are really rubbish bawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. Of course why you are firing AP - into them when Eldar have, statistically, the best Anti Tank Unit in the game AND the best Transport to get them there, I don't know.

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I don't recall labeling them as "anti-tank" at all. Just can dish out loads of high S firepower. This edition is geared towards high S more than AP values.


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 warboss wrote:

GW didn't mean to hit your wallet and I know they love you, baby. I'm sure they won't do it again so it's ok to purchase and make up.


Albatross wrote:I think SlaveToDorkness just became my new hero.

EmilCrane wrote:Finecast is the new Matt Ward.

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SlaveToDorkness wrote:I don't recall labeling them as "anti-tank" at all. Just can dish out loads of high S firepower. This edition is geared towards high S more than AP values.

Yeah, I know. I was just in the whiny Eldar Mindset there for a bit too long. But you are correct. I mean, look at Multilazors!

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Gwar! wrote:RaW, he isn't a Stormboy, and he isn't removed on a roll of a 1.


~! Using this interpretation it's also impossible to remove the nob due to his StormboyRokkitpack and rolling a 1.

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Gwar! wrote:RaW, he isn't a Stormboy, and he isn't removed on a roll of a 1.


RAW, he isn't a Stormboy (ie: the model whose profile is entitled: Stormboy) but he is a Stormboy (ie: a member of a unit called 'Stormboyz')


 
   
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in my mind Zag is an upgraded Nob who is an upgraded Stormboy

essentially they are all stormboyz - my opponent is good he removed Zag.. the battle for him was not going well and it was out of desperation that he tried to pull it (but it did raise a ? in my head.. for a moment anyway)

Luckily the guys i play with and happy to play with common sense and more often then not, interperate rules to the least advantage
   
 
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