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I have fallen victim to the subjective sports score myself and have learned to just have fun and let the cards fall were they may. I always just check the highest anymore and the organizers be d*med. It's even harder to go outside your normal play area for a RTT and win because amazingly it usually goes to the local fave and I usually take 2 even after having won every match with massacres and mainting a pleasant demeanor. On the other hand I win a lot of my local RTT's probably for the same reasons. That's why many moons ago they did away with best general and went with overall because nobody cared about winning anything but best general. Wow, you got the best chump er sports award congradulations. I even came up with a tactic to gaurantee you get full sports points everytime. Hire a female escort with a great rack (see Denegra the Warwitch) and have her compliment your opponent after every phase in the game and since the majority of players are male you should be alright playing the odds. After/during the match mention that she is your single lonely sister and you should have a new best friend.
   
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Posted By thehod on 07/04/2007 11:47 PM

  I am just wondering what the hell is the critera for Best Sportsman or do they just pick someone at random?


Sportsmanship points awarded by opponents, along with the bonus points from the Favorite Opponent votes.

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Posted By don_mondo on 07/10/2007 12:17 PM
Posted By thehod on 07/04/2007 11:47 PM

  I am just wondering what the hell is the critera for Best Sportsman or do they just pick someone at random?


Sportsmanship points awarded by opponents, along with the bonus points from the Favorite Opponent votes.

Well not in the Case of Vegas GT where Timothy Baptist had perfect sportsmanship scores and the most amount of favorite opponent votes yet did not win best sportsman.

Comparing tournament records is another form of e-peen measuring.
 
   
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Posted By thehod on 07/11/2007 12:04 AM
Posted By don_mondo on 07/10/2007 12:17 PM
Posted By thehod on 07/04/2007 11:47 PM

  I am just wondering what the hell is the critera for Best Sportsman or do they just pick someone at random?


Sportsmanship points awarded by opponents, along with the bonus points from the Favorite Opponent votes.

Well not in the Case of Vegas GT where Timothy Baptist had perfect sportsmanship scores and the most amount of favorite opponent votes yet did not win best sportsman.



Don't have the program used for GT scoring, BUT... In standard RTT scoring, each favorite opponent vote is worth 2 points. If that scoring system was used, they tied, in which case the Battle Points were probably used as a tiebreaker.

(EDIT) However, adding up the points does not seem to indicate that they gave 2 points for each favorite opponent vote. Has Timothy Baptist (or anyone) sent Dave an email asking about this? Also just realized I've been comparing Favorite Opponent instead of Best Sport. Gotta admit, I have no idea how the winner was determined. My original post is how it should have been done.


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So that was my RT experience at Games Day. It was fun, and though I was bummed out about the lack of a 30 in sports, Mann is right that I simply expected people to have the same outlook I do (seeing sports scoring as a joke), and given that the people who were openly talking about it at the tables around me (I was next to the Ork player who got canned in 3 turns by my friend with the Zilla Nids) I was assuming that I'd get full marks like all the other local stuff I've done.


You were sitting near the top tables at this point I'm guessing with other people that that also played up there, and at least in my experience, those are the ones that would have your outlook on scoring.

Your other opponents may have been people who don't do to many tournaments, and just read the sheets, and saw that 6 is average. One of them probably said, "this was an above average game, let me give him an 8", and the other was "this wasn't a bad game, I'll give him an average score".

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I rarely give out the top sportsmanship score. If 6 is the average, I probably would give out mostly sixes.

But all las/plas squads is boring. I usually give out bonus points to people who do things orginial in comp. If it is an army list I've seen before and a dozen times online, I'm like boring...

I come to tournaments to play different people and different armies. I got tired of reading this thread on page 2 but expecting to max out on sportsmanship is so unrealistic, you should expect to get about average which apparently is 3 games of 6 in the system being discussed...
   
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Posted By Mannahnin on 07/01/2007 10:06 AM
 

Sportsmanship scoring is good, and it's important too, to prevent dicks from winning tournaments. 



I don't see how 'being a dick' should really disqualify a person form winning a tournament. Then again, I think that 'Best Sportsman' scores should be a completely different category than 'Best General' and 'Best Painted'.  These are all just three different aspects of the hobby, and just because a person sucks at one or two of them, doesn't mean they should be penalized in the aspect(s) they're good at.

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Posted By don_mondo on 07/11/2007 7:04 AM
Posted By thehod on 07/11/2007 12:04 AM
Posted By don_mondo on 07/10/2007 12:17 PM
Posted By thehod on 07/04/2007 11:47 PM

  I am just wondering what the hell is the critera for Best Sportsman or do they just pick someone at random?


Sportsmanship points awarded by opponents, along with the bonus points from the Favorite Opponent votes.

Well not in the Case of Vegas GT where Timothy Baptist had perfect sportsmanship scores and the most amount of favorite opponent votes yet did not win best sportsman.



Don't have the program used for GT scoring, BUT... In standard RTT scoring, each favorite opponent vote is worth 2 points. If that scoring system was used, they tied, in which case the Battle Points were probably used as a tiebreaker.

(EDIT) However, adding up the points does not seem to indicate that they gave 2 points for each favorite opponent vote. Has Timothy Baptist (or anyone) sent Dave an email asking about this? Also just realized I've been comparing Favorite Opponent instead of Best Sport. Gotta admit, I have no idea how the winner was determined. My original post is how it should have been done.

I don't think this was used in Baltimore. If so, I would have had 108 total points for the tournament and I would have came in first.



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