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smreferee wrote:I don't think so, the Thunderfire can be pretty useful. It's served me well recently.

But if you take a Thunderfire, then take two or three for more serious impact.

How does that work? I've only had my one on the table, the thought of 3 sounds deadly.

You have to use three Heavy Support on TF Cannons giving up Devastators, Vindicators, etc.

So? Dedicate a LR for some Termies, take some Las in Tac squads. Anti-tank, and the Thunderfires take care of everything else.

If the LR isn't your bag, Assault troops with a fist and melta bombs. Or a Dread. There are a lot of options.

I changed the list a little bit tell me what you think.

HQ:
Space Marine Captain: Storm Bolter and Power Sword 118 pts

Elites:
Terminator Squad: Assault Cannon, 2x Chainfist 240 pts
Terminator Assault Squad: 5x Thunder hammer and Storm Shield, dedicated Land Raider Crusader with Multi-Melta 460 pts
Dreadnought: Assault Cannon and Heavy Flamer, Extra Armour 140 pts

Troops:
Tactical Squad: Flamer, Missile Launcher, sergeant: Power Fist and Plasma Pistol 210 pts
Tactical Squad: Meltagun, Missile Launcher, sergeant: Chainsword and Combi-Melta 185 pts
Tactical Squad: Plasma Gun, Plasma Cannon, sergeant: Plasma Pistol and Chainsword 200 pts
Scout Squad: 5x Sniper Rifle 75 pts

Fast Attack:
Attack Bike Squad: 2x Multi-Melta, 1x Heavy Bolter 140 pts

Heavy Support:
Thunderfire Cannon: 100 pts
Predator: Twin-Linked Lascannon, Side: Heavy Bolters 130 pts

Total: 1998 pts

It's still not very focused. Many of your weapon options defeat the purpose of each other. The Predator has anti-infantry and anti-tank capability, yet it doesn't do enough wounds to be good at anti-infantry. The Attack Bikes waste six total bolter/h-bolter shots when using the multi-meltas when you could simply split them into two squads. The third tac squad has three different effective ranges but no Razorbacks/Rhinos to take advantage of those ranges.

As suggested before, Thunderfire Cannons are better in multiples, assuming they're any good at all, of course. Love the idea, hate the fact that it has no real crew and is an artillery piece.

Captain STILL doesn't have a lightning claw.

Prefer to see the Dreadnought in a pod since you don't have any in the list right now, gets the flamer up close. I realize there isn't a model, but and Ironclad would be even better.

May as well go with Combi-Plasmas on the Sergeants (if you really like plasma on a Sergeant...) as you'll get two shots instead of one and I believe they're cheaper(?).

I dont change the power sword because I didnt get a ligthningclaw in the box but should I remove the multi-meltas on the attack bikes and replace the predator with a rhino and a drop pod?
And what is a ironclad?

HQ:
Space Marine Captain: Storm Bolter and Power Sword 118 pts

Elites:
Terminator Squad: Assault Cannon, 2x Chainfist 240 pts
Terminator Assault Squad: 5x Thunder hammer and Storm Shield, dedicated Land Raider Crusader with Multi-Melta and Extra Armour 475 pts
Dreadnought: Assault Cannon and Heavy Flamer, Extra Armour, dedicated Drop Pod 175 pts

Troops:
Tactical Squad: Flamer, Missile Launcher, sergeant: Power Fist and Plasma Pistol 210 pts
Tactical Squad: Meltagun, Missile Launcher, sergeant: Chainsword and Combi-Melta 185 pts
Tactical Squad: Plasma Gun, Plasma Cannon, sergeant: Combi-Plasma and Chainsword, dedicated Rhino with Storm Bolter 240 pts
Scout Squad: 5x Sniper Rifle, 4x Camo Cloaks 87 pts

Fast Attack:
Attack Bike Squad: 3x Heavy Bolter 120 pts
Land Speeder: Heavy Bolter 50pts

Heavy Support:
Thunderfire Cannon: 100 pts

Total: 2000 pts

changed it again

HQ:
Space Marine Captain: Thunder Hammer and Storm Shield 145 pts

Elites:
Terminator Squad: Assault Cannon, 3x Chainfist 245 pts
Terminator Assault Squad: 4x Thunder hammer and Storm Shield, 1x Pair of Lightning Claws, dedicated Land Raider Crusader with Multi-Melta and Extra Armour 475 pts
Dreadnought: Assault Cannon and Heavy Flamer, Extra Armour, dedicated Drop Pod 175 pts

Troops:
Tactical Squad: Flamer, Missile Launcher, sergeant: Power Fist and Plasma Pistol 210 pts
Tactical Squad: Meltagun, Missile Launcher, sergeant: Chainsword and Combi-Melta 185 pts
Tactical Squad: Plasma Gun, Plasma Cannon, sergeant: Combi-Plasma and Power Sword, dedicated Rhino with Storm Bolter 255 pts
Scout Squad: 5x Sniper Rifle, 4x Camo Cloaks 87 pts

Fast Attack:
Attack Bike Squad: 3x Heavy Bolter 120 pts

Heavy Support:
Thunderfire Cannon: 100 pts

Total: 2997 pts