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Golden Eyed Scout wrote:

JohnHwangDD wrote:I *knew* you'd make the case for rolling around on the floor with another sweaty guy...

And that's bad because....?

Lately, one of the women I'm friends with has asked me to show her how to wrestle.
So, I believe the two words I most appropriate are...

Oooooh DX. Bad memories. When they FIRST got together forever ago, I was watching a PPV with a buddy and we were getting all riled and such watching it. So when DX came out we were doing the dx cuts like Xpac used to do. And I cracked my balls so friggin hard doing the jump and chop I almost puked.

Seriously guys, TV wrestling isnt fake

Ultrafool wrote:How long should I swim a week? How many laps, reps, etc?

Try tredding water for about 10-20 minutes a day and keep pushing it up.

But as far as laps go, it depends on how big the pool is you are swimming in. You should really see what all you can do in the water before you try to push yourself really hard.

Drowning sucks I hear.

Dreadwinter wrote:

Drowning sucks I hear.

Does get too many shining reviews from what I've heard.


Boxing is always an option, check your local gyms and see if they have a trainer or somesuch. Of course, while training is fantastic for getting into shape you have to seriously check yourself before entering into fights. Losing a tooth or two is never a pleasant experience, even when drunk.

Ironically, being a Brit I get to have a fight every weekend playing American Football, despite being 32. I get the impression that in the States you only play American Football at that age if you are getting paid for it, and that only the really good players even play through college.

It is different in pro-sports over here. Loads of people play football, rugby, rugby league, hockey etc, at an amateur level as well until their bodies can no longer take it. We even steal other people's pro-sports, so we have American Football too, and even, I think, some Aussie Rules and definitely some Gaelic Football, which is similar and Hurling. Just about the only thing I think we don't do is Ice Hockey.

KingCracker wrote:Swimming really is a good way to loose weight.

So are fighting sports.

Fifty wrote: Loads of people play football, rugby, rugby league, hockey etc, at an amateur level as well until their bodies can no longer take it. We even steal other people's pro-sports, so we have American Football too, and even, I think, some Aussie Rules and definitely some Gaelic Football, which is similar and Hurling.

Hurling looked like lacrosse with clubs. By halfway through the game I saw, everyone was bleeding from club wounds. I don't think I've seen a more violent sport.

KingCracker wrote:

Golden Eyed Scout wrote:

JohnHwangDD wrote:I *knew* you'd make the case for rolling around on the floor with another sweaty guy...

And that's bad because....?

Lately, one of the women I'm friends with has asked me to show her how to wrestle.
So, I believe the two words I most appropriate are...

Oooooh DX. Bad memories. When they FIRST got together forever ago, I was watching a PPV with a buddy and we were getting all riled and such watching it. So when DX came out we were doing the dx cuts like Xpac used to do. And I cracked my balls so friggin hard doing the jump and chop I almost puked.

Seriously guys, TV wrestling isnt fake

I learnt that at age seven.

From my oldest brother chokeslamming me onto a concrete floor.
And a desk.
And grass.
And tile.
And a busted fridge.

And he still puts me in the Walls of Jericho when we visit.

Meh, I don't want to be on the ground if somebody attacks me.

Unfortunately in real life that's where a lot of fights end up.

If you watch the MMA type fighting sports, its actually one of the more effective ways to incapacitate somebody. You can punch somebody in the head all day, it'll just make your hands stop working as hands. If you want to win a fight, you want to choke them out, or break their arm.

Any type of fighting sport is about a trillion times more tiring than it looks, and they all look pretty tiring.

BJJ is one of the core competencies of MMA. It's very popular as a result, so there should be places local to learn it.

Ultrafool wrote: And I don't play paintball but I do airsoft.

Good man.

Phryxis wrote:

Meh, I don't want to be on the ground if somebody attacks me.

Unfortunately in real life that's where a lot of fights end up.

If you watch the MMA type fighting sports, its actually one of the more effective ways to incapacitate somebody. You can punch somebody in the head all day, it'll just make your hands stop working as hands. If you want to win a fight, you want to choke them out, or break their arm.

Any type of fighting sport is about a trillion times more tiring than it looks, and they all look pretty tiring.

BJJ is one of the core competencies of MMA. It's very popular as a result, so there should be places local to learn it.

Incapacitation is often unnecessary, punch somebody in the face and even if they aren't down, they don't really want to continue. And I do think you're underestimating the power of strikes. I get you with an elbow or knee and you're stunned. Being stunned is all I need to get away. If I'm really ambitious, I can surprise the gak out of you and go for a head kick (I know it's risky, but I'm able to do it, and if I get the opening, I'm doing it).

And it's not that I don't think being able to ground fight is useless. Just remember, if I'm in an actual fight, I'm going to bite you. Hard. Or maybe jam my keys in you, that also sounds like fun. Also not that hard to do when on the ground. If I'm carrying a pocketknife, the last place you want to be with me in on the ground. It's far safer to get in a solid punch or kick and run.

Also, also, sometimes the silliest, stupidest things work the best. I was sparring with a ground fighter and, naturally, I went down. I got back on my feet very quickly. It's quite easy when you tickle the underside of your opponent's feet. Ridiculous, yes, but it worked.

And I do know how tiring it is, I've sparred.

And I do think you're underestimating the power of strikes.

Don't get me wrong, striking is fine... In a lot of cases the best option is to just punk the other guy while he's still running his mouth, and then get the hell out of there. I have a friend whose whole theory on "scrappin" is to always throw the first punch.

But, that said, a lot of times it's crowded, somebody just starts grabbing you, somebody gets shoved into you, etc. If it's not over immediately, and it's not taking place in the middle of an empty field, it's probably gonna end up on the ground.

But, that's just it, the vast majority of the time it is over immediately. Once you start resisting, your assailant wants to get out of there. Because you're now a threat.

And keep in mind, I'm not trying to say that ground fighting is worthless, but I am disputing that it's the end all, be all of self defense. Life is not UFC. Most of self defense isn't even fighting, the vast majority of it is avoiding the situation in the first place.

Vene wrote:
And it's not that I don't think being able to ground fight is useless. Just remember, if I'm in an actual fight, I'm going to bite you. Hard. Or maybe jam my keys in you, that also sounds like fun. Also not that hard to do when on the ground. If I'm carrying a pocketknife, the last place you want to be with me in on the ground. It's far safer to get in a solid punch or kick and run.

Also, also, sometimes the silliest, stupidest things work the best. I was sparring with a ground fighter and, naturally, I went down. I got back on my feet very quickly. It's quite easy when you tickle the underside of your opponent's feet. Ridiculous, yes, but it worked.

And I do know how tiring it is, I've sparred.

I like you you sound like the sort of person I'd like by my side when I'm forced to brandish my pens and pencils.

Vene wrote:

Phryxis wrote:

Meh, I don't want to be on the ground if somebody attacks me.

Unfortunately in real life that's where a lot of fights end up.

If you watch the MMA type fighting sports, its actually one of the more effective ways to incapacitate somebody. You can punch somebody in the head all day, it'll just make your hands stop working as hands. If you want to win a fight, you want to choke them out, or break their arm.

Any type of fighting sport is about a trillion times more tiring than it looks, and they all look pretty tiring.

BJJ is one of the core competencies of MMA. It's very popular as a result, so there should be places local to learn it.

Incapacitation is often unnecessary, punch somebody in the face and even if they aren't down, they don't really want to continue. And I do think you're underestimating the power of strikes. I get you with an elbow or knee and you're stunned. Being stunned is all I need to get away. If I'm really ambitious, I can surprise the gak out of you and go for a head kick (I know it's risky, but I'm able to do it, and if I get the opening, I'm doing it).

And it's not that I don't think being able to ground fight is useless. Just remember, if I'm in an actual fight, I'm going to bite you. Hard. Or maybe jam my keys in you, that also sounds like fun. Also not that hard to do when on the ground. If I'm carrying a pocketknife, the last place you want to be with me in on the ground. It's far safer to get in a solid punch or kick and run.

Also, also, sometimes the silliest, stupidest things work the best. I was sparring with a ground fighter and, naturally, I went down. I got back on my feet very quickly. It's quite easy when you tickle the underside of your opponent's feet. Ridiculous, yes, but it worked.

And I do know how tiring it is, I've sparred.

Or you kick the safety off and the fight stops...

I don't see the merit in getting people on the ground, maybe becuase it's completely against my fight style, but (like Vene posted) that's close-close quarters and leaves both of you open for nastiness. On the ground, Dirtiest fighter wins. Becuase Dirtiest fighter brought a pocket knife.