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Get your self a knife, lots of band-aids and whatever bits from whatever armies you can find and just start making stuff. It is one of the funnest aspects to an ork army ever. The list of things I want to make when I find the time became staggering after I started converting orks and I'm always swiping little odds and ends from work that look like a cool gun or whatever.

But, first you need boys by the ton. I have 3 squads of 30 and I still feel like that isn't enough, but the thought of painting another 30 makes me cry a little

Not to mention if you stick Mad Dok with the MANz, then they ALSO are granted FNP. So 2+/5++/FNP 2wound terminators

Good advice,KingCracker.

KingCracker wrote:Not to mention if you stick Mad Dok with the MANz, then they ALSO are granted FNP. So 2+/5++/FNP 2wound terminators

I forgot about that. And having them in a battlewagon gets around Grotsnik's mad need to rush at the nearest enemy.

warpcrafter wrote:

KingCracker wrote:Not to mention if you stick Mad Dok with the MANz, then they ALSO are granted FNP. So 2+/5++/FNP 2wound terminators

I forgot about that. And having them in a battlewagon gets around Grotsnik's mad need to rush at the nearest enemy.

I think they still have to go to the nearest enemy I would love to be wrong on that though.

Thanks for all the great advice everyone! I picked up a couple boxes of boyz to get started. Can't wait to get enough to get in a couple of games so I can start naming them and giving them some personality. Seems like it'll be a lot of fun!

Jollydevil wrote:

Jidmah wrote:Nope, 4+. It's listed under exceptions somewhere in the cover rules.

Then why use kans if you can just use gretchin? Much cheaper, and frees up heavy spots as well as gives you a troop for objective captures.

Why would you want to free up heavy spots? It's not like kanz are bad or anything, actually they are one of our two best heavy support options. If you wanted to, you could even field one or two additional deff dreads as troops. You also can't field 6 mobs of boyz if you field two mobs as gretchin as meat shield.

Jollydevil wrote:

Jidmah wrote:Nope, 4+. It's listed under exceptions somewhere in the cover rules.

Then why use kans if you can just use gretchin? Much cheaper, and frees up heavy spots as well as gives you a troop for objective captures.

My first reaction would be to say that the grots will only get a 5+ save, whereas the kanz, if they are in range, get a 4+ save, so a stronger front-line shield.

Additionally, Kanz prevent the potential for enemy (non-skimmer) vehicles to plow through and into into your infantry using Tank Shock.

Plus the fact that they are a buffer line with 11 front armour and two dreadnought close combat attacks

Actually, that reminds me of something! Back on topic, Trukks are great tools even after they have disgorged their payload. I've learned how to use them to tank shock like a madman, either in an attempt to force a unit to run of the table, sometimes just to try and force a unit to run so that they are further away, pushing into and obscuring LOS of a heavy weapons team so they can't fire in their next turn, or simply tank shocking so that certain infantry have to move in such a way that they are now in sight of Ork weaponry.