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Waiting...

Well between people involved on FB, and official forum posters, they were saying 8:00pm GMT. I'm pretty sure that has come and gone. :-p

Don't shoot the messenger!

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
Well between people involved on FB, and official forum posters, they were saying 8:00pm GMT. I'm pretty sure that has come and gone. :-p

Don't shoot the messenger!

Yep 9.05pm over here

WHAT?!?

THEY LIED TO US!!!



Well, I'm sure it will launch...eventually!

Looks like they are just having technical issues:

From Facebook:

"Hi, everyone. There is going to be a small delay on switching on the Kickstarter, while a couple of important final details are worked out. We’ll update you very soon (almost certainly within an hour) about the new start time.

Very sorry about this - we obviously don’t want to delay, but it’s better than having to take the KS project down again if something vital is messed up. Please bear with us."

 Todosi wrote:
Looks like they are just having technical issues:

From Facebook:

"Hi, everyone. There is going to be a small delay on switching on the Kickstarter, while a couple of important final details are worked out. We’ll update you very soon (almost certainly within an hour) about the new start time.

Very sorry about this - we obviously don’t want to delay, but it’s better than having to take the KS project down again if something vital is messed up. Please bear with us."

They had one job...

I like those bull nosed flyers. Nice mix of tech there.

And here you go:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/duststudio/dust-operation-babylon?ref=discovery

Now I just need some DUST vets to tell me if there's a good deal to be had here...

Having never played it before, do I get everything I need to play?

Does the "campaign book" have the game rules in there?

 Alpharius wrote:
Now I just need some DUST vets to tell me if there's a good deal to be had here...

Nope.

Looking at the picture of the Allied army 'deal' and using the current models pricing, it looks like you are paying full retail.

From an online game store:

Heavy Assault Walker (base model for Devastator) $39.95
Medium Assault Walker (base model for Mickey and Barking Dog) $24.95
Troop Boxes $20.00

Comes out to $149.85.

Miniatures Market, War Store, etc. will have these models discounted. Even my FLGS sells Dust for 20% off.

Unless I'm missing something, the $150 army sets are only getting you the models early. There are no savings.

EDIT:

I forgot to mention that you have to add shipping onto the $150 price tag for the bundle. So full retail plus shipping. Even GW gives you free shipping on orders over $65.

The thing that really turns me off on this is the $10 add on figures. Add on? Really? For full retail you won't throw in a bonus KS figure? No thanks on this whole thing.

WTF?

Not even a discount for giving them an interest free loan?

Never mind, not gonna back this then.

You had me at Walkers, you lost me at full retail.

I guess there's always the stretch goals to increase value.

Yeah, not seeing the value, especially as I just got a Miniature Market email about another big sale to tempt me out of more money.


Better be some nice stretches once this funds.

Yup, very silly. I was really looking forward to this one but... far too much for my money.

Pledged for Allied army.

Had a look due to the cool figs but seems expensive for a ks, very much a preorder with no benefits so far.

2112 wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
Now I just need some DUST vets to tell me if there's a good deal to be had here...

Nope.

Looking at the picture of the Allied army 'deal' and using the current models pricing, it looks like you are paying full retail.

From an online game store:

Heavy Assault Walker (base model for Devastator) $39.95
Medium Assault Walker (base model for Mickey and Barking Dog) $24.95
Troop Boxes $20.00

Comes out to $149.85.

Miniatures Market, War Store, etc. will have these models discounted. Even my FLGS sells Dust for 20% off.

Unless I'm missing something, the $150 army sets are only getting you the models early. There are no savings.

Thank you for that analysis - and...I'm out!

Wow. Didn't see that coming. I did not expect full retail, and can only hope stretch-goals add significant value. If not... well, i'm still buying all of it, just at online shop prices. :-p

I do want to thank you guys for posting the links though while I had the audacity to go eat dinner. :-)

Still not clear if the full game rules are included in this. Certainly doesn't tell you anywhere on their KS page.

Also, post-campaign shipping calculator, not a fan of those.

Without the rules, the 'value' gets even worse.

This is a shockingly horrible Kickstarter in terms of 'deals' or 'value' - wow!

Oh man, those egg walkers are cool. But you can't pledge only for them, you have to get the full army deal... so not tempted. But seriously, they rock!

I guess I should call them "Steel Wall - Steel Guard Rifle Support Squad", but they really do look like the "egg" hardsuits everyone loved from Defiance Games (but which will never be released). Quite impressive.

"Shocking, horrible"? Uhhhh... no. That's over reacting.

Is it the best tactic? I don't think so, unless the prices are going up.

No new models except three characters? Yeah, feth that. Let me know when you have some new robots.

I thought the models were new...?

No shipping costs listed, and estimate says "20% of the cost of the models", which seems a bit ridiculous....

so is the appeal here just purely to get it before everyone else? Is this Kickstarter just a preorder vehicle?

For what it is worth...

If the Kickstarter proves unappealing, don't dismiss the game. A REAL starter army, of your own choosing, can be had at Miniature's Market for half the current asking price on KS. The majority of the models in these new bundles... oddly enough... are also currently available under different names, with only slightly different load-outs.

The game is terrific and well deserves to be played... this KS... eh... i'll refrain from judging. I'll just say that I am an almost insanely enthusiastic fan of this game, and i'm not so sure i'll be involved as of yet.